How to Wire A Go Kart / Mini Bike Charging System

[@kartnerds]

This whole instructional is awesome but the cvt drilled to hold the crank is brilliant

[@willieshaw2522]

Whenever you see a rapid pulsing of the headlight it is because they are being run directly off the charging coil on AC current. Once you install the rectifier/regulator, the pulsing should quit, since they are now being fed "clean" DC current and also seeing a constant voltage from the battery. While they may get slightly brighter from the slight voltage increase when revved from idle to RPM , they should not have the "strobe" effect that the un-filtered charge coil current provided.

[@motododo4626]

So I don't have a battery does that mean I can just hook the rectifier straight to my headlight for strictly lighting purposes

[@motododo4626]

And I have the predator 224 do I need to get a special flywheel to work with the coils?

[@kentsugden6865]

@@motododo4626 Yes, you will need a new flywheel. When I upgraded from a HiSun 196 to the 224 I just swapped the flywheel over and it works great. If you don't have a flywheel to steal from another engine, monsterscooterparts has a 3-magnet flywheel for $27.49 that looks like it'll work.

[@motododo4626]

@@kentsugden6865 sweet I actually have a 196 off my coleman ct200u ex. I'll jack its flywheel and coil hahaha

[@davidgreen437]

Knowing is half the battle. Was always my favorite.

[@BM-hb2mr]

@ Red Beard's Garage, 7:47 you said charging coil, isn't that the spark coil!? Charging coils are under flywheel, correct?

[@psyolent.]

yes huh he meant to say spark coil. all good.

[@midixiewrecked7011]

Momma always says stupid is as stupid does.

[@benbaribault424]

was planning on wiring my bike this weekend and still had some questions and this answered all of them. Great video, perfect timing

[@jeffreyhill3960]

Not regulator, rectifier. Rectifier changes ac voltages to dc voltage. I’m not sure ,it may have a regulator too, but without the rectifier it would not make dc voltage. Love your stuff and appreciate your knowledge. Have learned much, thanks.

[@soundman6645]

it is a rectifier and regulator

[@elky82]

yes proper term is regulator/rectifier, its 2 in one

[@RailroadedFilms]

I have a Coleman 196cc with two charging coils connected together with a brown and yellow. Is the yellow wire a ground, or a charging wire like the brown??

[@scottastic2915]

Ive watched @ Red Beard's Garage videos before but I never knew the intro was a banger like that!!!

[@CaptainWingnut]

Great Video. I’m finishing my sawmill and needed the motor to charge the battery. I’ll put a card in my video to your’s… thanks.

[@rickwhitfield7617]

Nice video buddy! You got me thinking: if i got a TILLY 212 electric start, and opted off a battery all together... dont you think that one coil that comes stock would power a 7 inch LED light bar at 12V and 1.5A when running? I bet it would, and i really dont mind pull starting. Thanks again for the ideas.

[@andreassittig2772]

It's very important to check if the existing flywheel has magnets on the inside. Most e-start engine's do, most other engine's don't. Without magnets on the inside of the flywheel, the output of the coils will be close to zero amps.

[@vic1507]

Thank you my friend! This is exactly what I needed to see. Based on this, at 3amps I can charge a small battery. Any info from Tillotson what the minimum CCA should be for this type of motor?

[@wvoutdoors5290]

I like to use lawn mower batteries on mine but you can use a mid sized atv battery around a size 8 or 10 will work great

[@aaronermis4082]

I have a non electric start Predator. Where can I get a flywheel with magnets to convert it (along with coils and regulator) to have a charging system?

[@kxlucifer]

Amazon

[@gordonl1965]

The regulator is actually a rectifier/regulator since it’s purpose is to convert AC input to DC output.

[@jonnyrobertson2798]

Where can you find a aluminum flywheel with inner charging coils for running lights on predator 212 motors?

[@vincentsky4912]

The golden question

[@MRJKeyes]

You briefly mentioned it but how would you stop the pulsing of a headlight like on my Coleman?

[@bryangannon7868]

I also need help selecting the correct load resistor to stop pulsing on my bt200 with an led headlight. He did mention the coil puts out 1.5 amps so if I assume my regulator is putting out 12v with no battery it would be 12/1.5 so an 8ohm resistor . My question is do I need to check the voltage after voltage drop from the led to know for sure what resistor to use and is a battery even required or is the resistor not required with a battery.

[@drewanderson8279]

Thank you so much for this video. This has been a huge issue with my drift trike hooking up the battery and lights. Now I know!

[@OrganGrindersSwing]

What size battery would you recommend for this setup?

[@zachpearman6556]

When this is all wired up and working properly, what voltage should you be reading on your battery? For example on a car, your battery should be reading like 12.5ish volts while the car is off. When the car is running, the alternator takes that to about 14V. Should you see something similar on this setup? Would the voltage increase when at full throttle vs. idle? I am just trying to make sure my setup is connected properly. When running, I am seeing the same battery voltage as when off.

[@venomchris5818]

I am seeing the same thing. I put the Go kart on Jack Stands and at wide open throttle I see the battery slowly go up in voltage but only to around 12.8 to 12.9. At idle it seems to be the same voltage as when the Go kart was started.. I hope someone answers this question.

[@adamjankowski4315]

​@@venomchris5818 it's because he used half wave coils with a full wave rectifier. This is a shit way to try this. You need the "charging coils" 2 wire coils and a full wave rectifier.

[@ihavenoclue1661]

Well just from watching your vids I was able to rewire my zero turn. Lol thanks brother

[@tentoesdown6247]

Can you use these charging coils with a billet flywheel?

[@vincentsky4912]

I have the same question, really important to know.

[@MCscarfacematt]

ive caught that govonor spring almost broke my leg trying to hold the cart back while i pulled the plug wire off to kill it because i didnt have a kill wire hooked up yet. im finally getting around to doing this for my world record charity ride this summer testing has been flawless. however i only go about 800 yards round trip and the battery has an onboard charger so when its parked at home its constantly on a trickle charger. i suck at wiring so thank you for explaining it to where even i can understand it

[@jeremiahfiek5495]

@Redbeardsgarage you should do a video building a shifter kart/buggy with a vertical shaft engine and mower transaxle like a Peerless 820. You can put sprockets/pulleys on the axles of the transaxle and run chain or something down to the live axle or half shafts. I'd bet a lot of people would want to see that. Just an idea

[@philliphall5198]

I don’t do hot rod but enjoy watching youll

[@RadDadisRad]

You can take 4 of those and nip the overlap then tack weld them into a square. Wouldn’t that be insane.

[@boatymcboatface1052]

Me Going Fast channel did a similar video showing all the wiring needed to the lights, this video answered questions about the Tillotson 👍👍. Looks like the flywheel is no different than that video.

[@heathfiedler]

Like to do something like this with the predator 224 i have but in have no idea how id get the mags for the after market fly when i got on it now.

[@venomchris5818]

What should the Battery voltage read once the Regulator / Rectifier is installed and the engine is idling?

[@jplizardman]

So the black wire is just not needed? Thanks for the great video!!

[@briantucker2570]

Is there any way to do this with a billet flywheel?

[@neillavery5359]

will this work with a stage 4 212 predator? im just curious because of the billet fly wheel

[@kingjames8283]

A question I have as I'm preparing to install charging coils / starter motor to my Honda powered pressure washer, isn't there a rectifier / regulator installed inside the key switch box? If not then I need to locate one to be wired into the box as I intend to mount one to my setup.

[@adamdube2062]

I think they have a diod in the switch somewhere

[@Tattedteddygram]

Hope This video gets million views 🙏 Like other Small engine builds!

[@xaviermccloud4586]

If I was going to connect it to the original keystart, white wires do I use ON the keystart box???

[@timalexander89]

What if your rectifier regulator has 3 wires. 1 red with fuse and 2 blue 12v DC? It's so many I'm confused 🤔

[@husa628]

Good video Is it possible to put a charging coil on a Lifan 2.5 hp 50cc engine? Thanks Keven

[@RedBeardsGarage]

I don't think so. Thanks for watching

[@jeffreyhill3960]

What to do if you have after market parts to soup up the bike. I remember hearing that the “stock” flywheels could not handle the revs, but I still need to charge!

[@haydentakara4369]

Can you run an electric oil pump off that? Thinking of sticking a turbo on the 212 for the hell of it.

[@pancudowny]

It seems that all four raised mounting points are of even square-pattern distance from one-another. This makes me think: A singular 4-coil piece (all four coils being of equal size) could be made & bolted in place to prove 6-amps output. It might require a 4-coil rectifier, or a pair of 2-coil versions, but it'd be worth it.

[@jumper5029]

I need to figure out how to do that

[@RyanHouchens-o9b]

So if I have the charging coils where they are daisy chained together so I only have one wire coming from behind the flywheel do I only need a rectifier/regulator with 3 wires (coil wire,out put wire/ ground wire)?

[@renatoguillen6394]

Red you remove the starter switch to install the rectifier regulator can we have those two at the same time?

[@Tampaboys]

Got to love these engines just so many upgrades you can do just got my first tilly I love it

[@scrivyscriv]

@Knight Recon late reply, but I just installed one of the electric start kits and I most certainly would not remove the governor using the replacement flywheel the kits come with. It's awful

[@DanActs238]

I really don't mind if I continue using the pull start. However I'd like to do the headlight and then add front turn signals, rear turn signals, brakelight and tale light. Do you have any video on this?

[@Cobra427Veight]

I have a 16hp and it has a single coil , on a log splitter , and I need more charging , so I've bought the dual coils not hooked up yet , so with one stock coil there is no rectifier but two coils I will need one . Cheers .

[@catyamman]

Will this dual rectifier / voltage regulator handle a non-governed higher RPM engine? thank you.............great job on the vid's!

[@RedBeardsGarage]

Yes it will work great

[@XxSrelhowxX]

Just curious. The new wire under the edge of that wire hold down. Because it's pinched and not ran through the loop will vibration over time wear into the wire and cause a short?

[@ParamotorEngineer]

Exactly...I,d be surprised if it isn’t already shorted 🙄

[@davidwiezalis3037]

Does a non-electric start Tillitson 212 Hemi have a lighting coil already in it? Or is that option only on E-Start models?

[@aubreym3315]

That intro man. Wow that was great!!! Good job guys.

[@ericmartinez4722]

will this work on a DuroMax XP18HPE 440cc 18-Hp?

[@curly3425]

Hey the link for the voltage regulator says it's for 150cc engines, will this work for 196? The regulator from go powersports for that engine only has 3 wires, 2 green and a red, can you explain?

[@scorpioslab]

I have 2 word coming out of Duramax xp7hp electric start. There is 2 wires coming out of the magneto. It's hooked up besides the one I didn't see when I rewired it. It's a black wire with a white strip any idea what it is?

[@rickwhitfield7617]

Nice video buddy! I have an odd one for ya: on a 4 wire rectifier off a mega moto 212 kit... I am seeing a DC voltage DROP as RPMs go higher?! I read 12AC+ on the meter coming off the two coil wires before the rectifier too. I'm thinking the rectifier is bad. Ever seen this before?

[@hot_machine_4_lifess901]

What type of voltage regulator should I use for my predator 420?

[@RedBeardsGarage]

Same one in this video

[@jeremiethibault-perron6372]

Hey sir!I would like to install a charging system on honda gx160. The hole for a charging coil have not a thread. I will do them... and do you suggest me a kit flywheel and charging coil with a regulator/rectifier. Sorry fo my bad english! Thank you!

[@ZTMcolson]

So the regulator connects to the motor itself where does the battery connect ? To the spaces where these are mounted??

[@TF856]

So can you put two double coils on there and have a 6 amp output?

[@vincentsky4912]

are charging coils compatible with billet flywheels?

[@trailerparkferraris7969]

That’s what I’m wondering

[@jwalkerftw]

Hey man thank you for this very informational video, i had a question, is there any other way to tighten the fly wheel to spec if you dont have a tie down tool or in this case a old 30 series cvt pulley to tie down.

[@bboyguambomb]

Will this work on the tillotson 225 performance engine?

[@mattgreen348]

is there a billit flywheel thats works with the chaging system or no?

[@stagnant1042]

So I want to run headlights and tail lights from my battery. Where do I run battery wires from ( from engine to battery) to keep it charged?

[@chromedomeracing5560]

Does anyone make a billet flywheel with starter gear for the predator 212/224?

[@Queshawn27]

I have a 420cc predator motor from harbor freight and I have a push start installed but I am having issues getting it started it's been sitting for a while but I have clean oil I have not checked the spark plugs I don't know if it could be something around my carburetor there's fuel in it though I just don't know what to do to get it started because it won't start it cranks but it won't start

[@alexgarza5398]

Hey red beard!, quick question would this setup work on a predator 212cc? Looking to throw some lights on my go cart but Ive only seen people use the old fly wheels.. is it possible that a go power sports fly wheel would work? Would I have to put magnets on it?

[@dgrimaldo2008]

Hey Alex did you end up using this set up for a predator 212? I am thinking of doing the same and I ordered a stage 2 kit for the 212 from GPS. I believe it does have magnets on it though

[@matthewchilders4560]

I need some help. Going to watch this, but my needs are a little different. I have a 15hp 420cc horizontal engine. Would like to set up a similar system that’ll charge a 12v deep cycle marine battery. Do you know roughly how many amp hours you could charge with in an hour? Is there a calculator. I don’t have an electric start, can I put one on?

[@rfrazier113]

Would I need the dual coil for a coleman ct200u. I want to add lights to it? Also, I have a bx200 that already has a light, where would I get a single coil to add to it?

[@jakehart7048]

Do you always need a battery for lights, or can you get away with just using a charging coil

[@richardwicker6811]

I wanted to install a double charge coil on a predator 212cc hemi, but it kept hitting the inside of the flywheel. Any Tips on how to correct this problem?

[@pancudowny]

If you have a hemi predator, you need a Kohler flywheel, which is hard to find and a lot more expensive.

[@richardwicker6811]

@@pancudowny , Why couldn't i just mill out a little out of the predator flywheel so it has enough room for clearance?

[@ctlandscapemaintenancesolu494]

is that side cover two parts with the electric start or just one part

[@jasonwilson9207]

I purchased an Everett 10 amp charging coil that has two wires coming out of the coil do I put each wire to each input on the regulator?

[@jeffreyhill3960]

Will this work with a billet flywheel? Do they only have one magnet?

[@KB_Joys]

What if you got a flywheel and the taper bore was too big for the crankshaft? Could you use a shim and still use the flywheel?

[@johngoodwin3841]

What is a list of everything that you use in that video

[@sammason2464]

Hi I really liked your video I have a harbor freight predator 301 engine and I'm trying to find a electric starter kit for it . Do you know what might work based on your experience with small engines .I have seen the ones from ebay but I'm not sure what to get .

[@michaelmontenegro2251]

@redbeardsgarage So with this setup on my stock predator 212cc I can run some headlights on my yerfdog gokart?

[@larryguevara3350]

Only with coils and matching flywheel.

[@ejaysgarage8073]

Hey that wire clamp is going to vibrate right through that black wire and ground out and it will loose charging capability.

[@robertcolaluca8882]

is there a second part to this video, if you take the key switch out how do you start the bike

[@johnrutigliano7856]

Where can I get the parts for this. there is no lim nk at the bottom of the video

[@hotrodjosh]

For some reason my 212 is only putting out 3.5 volts to the battery. What is wrong?

[@papabits5721]

Did you ever get do a video of a alternator on a 420 cc

[@pedromelendez8534]

What is the best location to bolt on regulator. My go kart didn't have one from factory, so I have no clue where it goes? Thanks in advance.

[@christianflorek2752]

Hey I have a question, in the full suspension ct200 video where did you get that gas tank or what model Harley Davidson did it come from because every single gas tank that was on the engine broke off

[@scrapsz1079]

Is that blue wire coming from the engine the kill switch?

[@jamesfalvey77]

No link for the flywheel? And is it limited to hemi or non-hemi?

[@anru2774]

What if Im gonna use the original starter key. Where does the 2 black wires and brown wire that come from the key go?

[@brianthomas869]

I bought one of the voltage regulators but my wires are in different order then the one in the video. Is the wiring going to still the same?

[@burstable252]

What do I do if I want to do a bilit flywheel with the charging coil

[@rey5872]

Will the voltage rectifier/regulator that is in the description work on a predator 420cc engine?

[@oliviavaldepena8590]

Can you show a video of you putting back the electric starter key switch stock back with the 12 volt regulator I would like to keep my original key switch and put a 12 V regulator going to add headlights need some help can you direct me to the right direction

[@myparadiseonbantayanisland9030]

What is the max amp hour size battery it can charge?

[@VeteranDad13]

Will you share any information on then larger 6 pole coil charger system you build previously?

[@henrygibson2906]

Will this work on a 420 predator and will it keep battery charged if I install lights, like tail light and head lights led. It’s for a golf cart project?

[@aaronmendoza7120]

I have a tecumseh engine, I would like to know if I can put something similar to it to put lights on my Go kart I would really appreciate it if you could help me

[@MegaKencam]

I think I have a bad rectifier. Mine is wired the same as yours. I get 3 to 10 volts DC out but that's not enough to charge the battery. The voltage goes up with RPM but at a certain point it reverses and starts going down with more rpm.

[@kahmylion2]

I have my light connected to a battery on a switch and now I should be charging the battery through the regulator. And that eliminates the lights pulsing.

[@mvenom4088]

Is there an issue sharing the DC ground with the AC coils? Wouldn't it be more effective and safe to wire the coils in series and have the output going to the rectifier/ regulator?

[@rickwhitfield7617]

Great question! I am skeptical on a shared ground too. If you read the rectifier output... I also see BOTH AC and DC simultaneously on the leads!

[@Chalz108]

Will you need to get a new flywheel if you are doing this exact thing on a predator 212

[@baggedFg2]

Can you put a charging system and electric start onto a 212cc Predator hemi?

[@OCTANEslc]

Would this work on a 212 pred?

[@MsPhuque]

Yes, one of my 212 predators has a stator near my flywheel.

[@minibikegarage1577]

Yup as long as you have a 3 magnet flywheel and it has the right taper for the crankshaft

[@justicepenaranda6048]

Do you have Honda gx390 engine build?