Redeemed Zoomer Vs Orthodoxy

[@OrthodoxKyle]

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[@winfieldslack815]

How do I dm you?

[@DeclanStewart-i8q]

Yo I do believe orthodox is more traditional I was thinking about getting a orthodox Bible but there is one thing I disagree with in orthodox is the paintings I don't understand why they have them ? Also no way Jesus would think that's honour by having paintings of him and of the apostles no chance

[@KingdomOfJerusalem9]

@@DeclanStewart-i8q Jesus did not said Icons are venerating Jesus Saints Virgin Mary and the apostoles They aren't venerating wood And miracles icons crying blood

[@gilgameschvonuruk4982]

20:22 Sweden and Finland have very little oil reserves, almost no history of colonialism, yet they still became prosperous. Also, Russia colonized Siberia, with all its resources and still remained poor Greece and Cyprus are the only Orthodox countries in the Eurozone, and they are the ones with the biggest economic problems.

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

Hi Kyle! I actually really liked your video, you honestly showcased my whole channel much more skillfully than I ever have, so thank you! Your counterarguments against my video were completely valid. I made that video back when I had like 80 subscribers and didn't put much thought into it. Once I got more well-known I realized that my arguments in that video were very poor and didn't address the fundamental debates. So I promise you all that I'll make an updated video, and that I'll continue to look into Orthodoxy with an open mind. God bless, Redeemed Zoomer

[@RhiannonSenpai]

So glad to hear you're looking into Orthodoxy more seriously and no longer dismiss them because they're poor (even though for most of the Middle Ages the Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantine Empire was richer than most of Western Europe and that changed only at the end of the Middle Ages with the Conquest of Constantinople by the Ottoman Empire in 1453 and conicided with the voyages of Christopher Columbus to the Americas a few decades later -1492 to 1504-).

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Thank you! I am glad you took the time to watch it. A good starting book is Rock & Sand by Fr Josiah Trenham (he was Protestant than Orthodox Priest). Reach out to me on discord discord.com/invite/wtqDsy4eVs if you want to talk / have any questions. Look forward to the updated video. God bless ☦☦

[@CHURCHISAWESUM]

Hey, you’re a cool dude. You should do some chat livestreams with some of our guys

[@Brother-in-christ43555]

This how two people who disagree should act, respectful

[@evan7391]

I love your videos bro! God bless you!

[@abrahemsamander3967]

“Baptists are social conservatives but not theologically.” Thank you! I’m sick of people calling orthodoxy liberal because it doesn’t subscribe perfectly to modern American conservative capitalism and protestant work ethic.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

😂👍👍

[@angrywarhawk7553]

America isn't and never was a Christian country. Its religion is Freemasonry and its god is Mammon. "In God we trust" means in Mammon we trust. America worships money! It's right there in front of us

[@bolshoefeodor6536]

Protestant work ethic is a polite term glorifying the industrial capitalist horrors of the late 19th century (poor houses, sweat shops, child slavery, etc...)

[@ryrocks9487]

@@bolshoefeodor6536 Exactly. I don’t want to be lectured about serfdom from Protestant venture exploiters.

[@iBullyDemons]

If you don't work for your corporate overlords all the time God hates you.

[@andys3035]

As someone who was Protestant for 20 years, it is basically a self-help seminar with a band. I'm not bashing Protestants in general or as people, I know some really good, God fearing Prots. But most "mainstream" Protestant/Evangelical churches are built on these celebrity pastors that are far removed from the historic church.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

yup, pray for them!

[@AW27007]

I actually liked his viral stuff, but yeah cmon Zoomer, join Orthogang

[@gaulsoodman6517]

Truly truly

[@Hillwatch]

Bone doctors from around the world be like “you talkin’ to me?”

[@poobread8885]

Also its rich to hear a protestant complaining about a lack of Orthodox unity

[@OrthodoxKyle]

yup haha

[@slowboywhiteboardv4]

If he thinks tradition is an idol in Orthodoxy, what is he idolizing when he interprets the scriptures by himself?

[@Damon_At_Forged_Faith]

God's word.

[@TheRealRealOK]

Boom!

[@saint-jiub]

Roasted

[@j.b.kingsbury7221]

Sola scriptura

[@harrygarris6921]

I don't think that modern reformed protestants really understand their own teacher John Calvin's perspective on idolatry. Yes it's true that Calvin believed that icons and statues and the church itself were idols, but it wasn't anything inherently wrong with artistic depictions, it was because to him any time that we believe or think or say anything that potentially misrepresents God in any way that is idolatry. And according to him as humans we are constantly doing that. He believed in a super minimalist form of religion where the less that is said in worship, the less decorated the church is, the more simply you dress, the better, because the more we put into our religion in terms of material expression the more at risk we are of committing idolatry. Obviously modern reformed protestants don't really put much effort into practicing this and they've just adopted Calvin's view that pictures of God and saints are bad and forgotten about the rest of it.

[@MoriorInvictus1453]

Also, I'm pretty sure the East-Roman Empire was the most prosperous nation on earth throughout the majority of the middle ages.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

[@DaxAxeOffical]

Protestoids when a nation that collapsed in the 1400's is not as advanced as modern day countries: (i am a baptist)

[@heftymagic4814]

​@@DaxAxeOffical begome

[@DaxAxeOffical]

no.

[@MoriorInvictus1453]

@@DaxAxeOffical begome

[@matvejpolitov1536]

I actually watched redeemed zoomer by his video, like about the church history and the understanding of trinity. As i fully watched his video about the trinity, it includes the Filioque. And that makes me curious and sad, that he's between catholic or Protestant. Thank you for responding of his channel, Love your videos. From Russian Orthodox Christan in Switzerland ☦️❤

[@OrthodoxKyle]

☦☦

[@NJP9036]

“Protestantism is endless schism” well said. Thank you Kyle.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

pray for them!

[@bikesrcool_1958]

But the schism is united by Jesus being the only way. Of course Mormons and Jehovah’s Witness aren’t Christian though. But Methodists and baptists don’t think each other are going to hell lol, and it’s not a giant schism. Both are Christian

[@aleksamilutinovic1463]

​@@OrthodoxKylebro 1:58 battle of Kosovo , and sadly we were last stand of Christians vs Ottomans, and now that Western Christians support Muslim in destructing Serbian Orthodox Churches and Monasteries 😢.

[@puchy110]

This just vindicates my decision to leave Protestantism. So many intellectual points that can’t be defended by the west that are easily answered by the east.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

🙏

[@internetenjoyer1044]

east has cringe takes on chruch history though

[@subtrippin]

@@internetenjoyer1044source? Church history is of the East.

[@internetenjoyer1044]

@@subtrippin icon veneration is a late development

[@subtrippin]

@@internetenjoyer1044 no, not really. If you read about the iconoclasm the you would know that the majority of icons were destroyed because people thought it was bad to venerate icons.

[@WoodchuckNorris.8o]

Wait... bragging about a protestant work ethic while playing Minecraft?

[@OrthodoxKyle]

lol

[@JackDSquat]

Ig he’s got work ethic when it comes to grinding on Minecraft 😅

[@TheTarnished6437]

I love playing Minecraft, maybe a little to much, I am starting to think I have a problem.

[@otiswong2091]

Lmfao

[@samuelmurphy7943]

He is a child

[@deacon6221]

Love both of your guys channels. Hope he converts to Holy orthodoxy would be nice to have a guy of his size and talent on our side. God bless!

[@albabialdayaqi5885]

As a former Presbyterian, this is absolutely true. The apostacy is extremely high, most of the churches became Liberal. The leading Presbyterian Church in South Africa (Dutch Reformed actually) has lost most of its following and the majority of their churches are empty and closing up doors. My grandfather is a pastor in the Dutch Reformed church and I think he rejects the virgin conception and the physical ressurection (I herd it from another pastor but I am to scared to ask him). Glory be to God that I found saint John of Damasuc (Through muslim debate) ☦️.

[@Nina_Mo2]

We (the Church in South Africa) bought one of those Dutch Reformed church buildings. It cleaned up beautifully, with great iconography.

[@albabialdayaqi5885]

@@Nina_Mo2 Are you from Kleksdorp?

[@albabialdayaqi5885]

@@Nina_Mo2 I'm looking for an Orthodox church in the Pretoria region.

[@Nina_Mo2]

@@albabialdayaqi5885 No. I'm in GP

[@Nina_Mo2]

@@albabialdayaqi5885 Eastern Orthodox Church?

[@blockpartyvintage1568]

In the gc he claims he is a proud ecumenist. And if he converted it would be to RC. I've got the screenshots. He thinks we are all brothers and sisters. Lol In the Orthodox gc we have repeatedly refuted him he just ghosts.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

🙏

[@Vraa21]

I am a Protestant and was very anti catholic/orthodox I researched Martin Luther to see his beliefs and history from church fathers and changed my entire way of thinking, im now visiting an Orthodox Church soon

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Glory to God ☦

[@ApolloLeRoux]

He's wrong because modern medicine comes from The Byzantine empire maybe he needs to google the Mothers of Modern Medicine who are Saints of The Orthodox Church. The Holy Unmercenary Healers all of them!

[@ДимитърГеоргиев-в3и]

How has Orthodoxy not had an impact when it protected the entirety of Balkan tradition and heritage from muslim oppression?

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

Agreed

[@CalebDekker]

Oh, it’s the “Protestant work ethic” of course! Unfortunately, the Protestant work ethic does not extend to the study of historic Christianity.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

🤣😂

[@Mercy_rajput]

One thing I’ve come to notice and admire about orthodoxy is that we don’t go out of our way to “reform” or “change” people. Orthodoxy in and of itself draws people in. As a born Hindu, I now feel like a stranger and awkward when my mum needs me to drive her to temple. I ask if I can stay in the car, she insists I go in, and so I do, and it doesn’t feel like home anymore. I’m looking forward to leaving the whole time

[@raghavnamasivayam8706]

Well you're a convert what crap why would you convert to christianity hinduism has dharmic

[@John-Svanlund]

Do not go in the temple worship is due to God alone. E-mail a byzantine Orthodox priest about what to do in this difficult situation.

[@arspsychologia4401]

His other videos had him sounding pretty smart, but one jab at Orthodoxy and he becomes a pile of wet noodles. The difference is striking.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Pray for him 🙏🙏

[@arspsychologia4401]

@@OrthodoxKyle Absolutely 🙏

[@J..P..]

Many such cases.

[@Silver_is_disappointed_in_you]

As an ex-protestant and born again orthodox, you just cooked him ! ☦️

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Pray for him 🙏🙏

[@ISCARI0T]

what is born again

[@isaac1674]

@@ISCARI0T Факс

[@Kostas_Dikefalaios]

​@@ISCARI0TBaptism.

[@orrorsaness5942]

@@OrthodoxKyle amen

[@ducky1016]

Bro... he just violated serbia. What da heck

[@OrthodoxKyle]

[@adjustedbrass7551]

As a recent Catholic convert, he really did roast protestants several times without realizing it.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

LOL. I used to be Catholic.. watch these and come visit orthodoxyinamerica.org/

[@cappy1920]

Hospitals, universities, nursing homes, orphanages, libraries, etc. All originated in the East, many from the time of St. Basil the Great.

[@ppn194]

Add mandatory basic schooling for boys and girls.

[@that_sun_guy6527]

You have great content and editing, Kyle! Keep up the good work!

[@OrthodoxKyle]

thanks 👍

[@areyoutheregoditsmedave]

his viral videos were cringe. denominations dont exist; only Holy Orthodoxy and then a million different heresies.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

👆💯

[@MaximusOrthodox]

Real

[@MaximusOrthodox]

Nice, I recommended you responding to this video☦️

[@OrthodoxKyle]

thanks (:

[@reigenlucilfer6154]

what? i thought that was me 😧

[@lbwnova6654]

The whole point Zoomer is missing is that Tradition agrees with the Bible. Most Orthodox people admit that the Fathers had many disagreements and were even wrong about some things. But those are the things that aren’t dogma in the Church. Dogma is universally agreed upon by the Fathers because it doesn’t contradict Scripture. Even if it isn’t super explicitly stated in the Scripture, our Tradition sees through the more ambiguous verses by the power of the Holy Spirit to draw out their full meaning.

[@MrRickkramer]

In the Netherlands, Orthodoxy is growing ☦️🙏🏻 glory to God

[@stevenlee5673]

Most of the Netherlands is atheist though. Cringe.

[@robertbateman3698]

Thank you Kyle so much I about to start catechism in the Eastern Orthodox Church. I used to be Protestant but I started being skeptical about the Protestant church and I started going to an Orthodox Parrish but I still didn’t know for sure if Orthodoxy was true but thanks to you I’m solidly Orthodox now thank you Kyle God bless you.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Glory to God ☦

[@voxlknight2155]

As a Serb, I can testify that the Church has little to do with our current economic status, like in the wast it's all political, and until 20 years ago we were communists, so church had absolutely nothing to do with any of that, and those problems are still present from that time.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

God bless Serbia! they have kept the Orthodox faith!

[@Mavvyd96]

I'm begining to see Orthodoxy is most likely the true way.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Come visit: orthodoxyinamerica.org/ and join discord (link in description) if you have any questions. God bless!

[@jb885]

I was just waiting for you to make video thank you god bless you

[@OrthodoxKyle]

☦

[@poobread8885]

"The least positive impact"??? We made the bible

[@rigavitch]

Beautiful, brother! 🙏🏼☦♥

[@chocolateneko9912]

I've been watching his channel and hoping someone would make a response. Glad it was you Kyle. God bless! ❤️☦️

[@OrthodoxKyle]

He responded to this video... Pray for him!

[@chocolateneko9912]

@@OrthodoxKyle make a response to the response 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪 he needs our prayers you're right enough Kyle no danger. ❤️☦️

[@louieluigi3914]

Please pray for my non-dom dad and sister. That they will find the Orthodox Church.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

🙏🙏

[@Gerasimos_slava]

Finally, that ecumenism stuff is crazy.

[@AW27007]

Moon man!

[@slowboywhiteboardv4]

8:50 When someone can't explain their position without using the word "like" a dozen times, I'm not going to take anything they say seriously. 😅 ain't nobody got time fo dat

[@ДенкаДамянова-х4и]

As a Bulgarian Orthodox - we are poorer than the West because of centuries long Ottoman rule and later Soviet regime. My country used to be an empire in the Middle ages, before the muslims came and invaded us. After we were freed from them, we developed very fast (during that time Orthodoxy was taught in schools and people were VERY religious) but only a few decades later communism came and essentially destroyed our progress. Protestants intentionally don't teach that because deep down they know they're wrong about theology. They connect their religion to superficial success and nationalism and the real thing that they worship is money. Great video, Kyle, thank you for defending the one true fate!

[@OrthodoxKyle]

yes exactly!

[@CheekyHaggis]

”Scandinavia is rich because of their oil reserves” Norway isn’t the only country in Scandinavia.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

It was just an example, All Scandinavian nations have high oil reserves. Norway is richest because they have the most... Point is that this is NOT an argument for why Orthodoxy is false!!!

[@CheekyHaggis]

@@OrthodoxKyle Saying all scandinavian countries have big oil reserves is just a lie though

[@CheekyHaggis]

@@OrthodoxKyle but I guess its relative

[@knarrhajen]

@@OrthodoxKyle Love the video, but Sweden (accounts for half the population of Scandinavia) has no (nil) oil and gas reserves, and had quite poor attempts at colonialism. Though you are correct Norway and Denmark both have great wealth from oil.

[@IgnatiusSeventy7]

I hope and pray Zoomer looks into this more and reads Rock and Sand.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

such a good book 🙏🙏

[@P.Whitestrake]

He really used "Western civilization is more sophisticated" as the benchmark of The Truth belongs to Protestanism. That's a shallow thinking. Lord, have mercy. 🤦‍♂️ The Truth can't be measured by "sophistication" of a civilization. This is such a Protestant mindset. It's has the same vibe as "I used to be poor & I was suffering. But now because I go to church, I pray, & I give alms so often, I'm now rich & I can buy a nice car. I'm automatically blessed. Hallelujah!" So shallow. Suffering & poverty are also a psrt of God's blessing.

[@orrorsaness5942]

Amen 🙏 The only thing that irks me that isn’t that emphasized on Orthodoxy is Universal Priesthood, that all Christian’s are laymen priests as that’s what’s said in the Bible. Other than that, I agree with most of what Orthodox says.

[@spikestoyou]

So glad you put this video out, I kept getting recommended that dude’s vids

[@AllenMacintyre]

Thank God I brought my Prot work ethic to Orthodoxy, cause monastics have never seen anything like this!😂

[@reigenlucilfer6154]

kyle never fails to deliver. great content as always!

[@OrthodoxKyle]

💯

[@Nicole-em9yo]

You're helping to save a lot of souls Kyle. Thank you.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

All Glory to God ☦

[@landsknecht8654]

The Protestant nations are in huge decline. Has anybody gave him an update what's been going on lately? Also Orthodoxy is Western, Russia and Eastern Europe are Western cultures too lol.

[@victorluz9414]

I am a Protestant as well, I am not orthodox because there is not a single Orthodox Church in my state. If the Orthodox Church is the only true church, why it is almost completely absent in some places in the world?

[@ligetisspaghetti5763]

The redeemed zoomer was instrumental in setting the foundation for introducing me to orthodoxy.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Glory to God! Pray for him!

[@GAF2234]

​@@OrthodoxKyle Protestants, Catholics, Orthodoxs and other Christian denominations are piece of shit.

[@torynichols2413]

If it wasn't for redeemed zoomer I never would have found Minecraft. Always thought it was a game like Candy crush or something

[@keltonschleyer6367]

I’m glad you’ve found the true faith, instead of the heretical church of Terraria 😂

[@oboroth51]

Talking about the church while playing minecraft💀

[@J..P..]

Peak zoomer moment

[@georgios_5342]

12:50 it's funny how he portrays heresies+sects against the Orthodox Church as "Orthodox vs everyone else". EVERYONE ELSE is literally a splinter group, a sect, a heresy 😅

[@DevinMork]

It takes an immense amount of humility to even entertain the idea that the Orthodox church has it right. For me, it has required a major recalibration of my most fundamental assumptions, testing them against Scripture and the first generations of Christian scholars. There aren't any excuses anymore. For ~$8 I got the entire ante-nicene, nicene, and post-nicene fathers on my smartphone.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

☦☦

[@living_orthodox]

Great video Kyle. This Protestant is talking in circles and clearly, playing Minecraft and talking about complex matters such as theology, aren’t things he can’t do simultaneously. He clearly didn’t research things very well.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

He watched my video & commented.. He is gonna look deeper into Orthodoxy (:

[@living_orthodox]

@@OrthodoxKyle excellent! ☦️

[@James-xv4mn]

THIS IS THE ONE IVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!! I've been lutheran/presbyterian my whole life and have been in the church in the PCUSA, but I can't continue to believe in all this liberal BS, and after watching Redeemed Zoomer I came to Kyle to learn about Orthodoxy. Still very confused theologically and normally would agree with pretty much anything he said because he also is in the PCUSA but you've changed my mind a bit Kyle and I want to thank you for that. I'd like to ask a few questions, but I understand if no one replys- just trying to figure out some key problems I have. 1. I understand that politically we should have removed the Filioque, and I know that John 15:26 says directly that it proceeds from the father, but it also says in other passages that it is the spirit of Christ. Does the father who is also Jesus(in essence) send it down, and Jesus in this passage in John talking about that, and to my other point, is Jesus sending the spirit down from heaven through Himself who is subsequently the father as they are of the same essence? Also, why do we need to ask a someone (saint) in heaven to pray for us? It says directly in the Bible that none shall go to the Father except through Jesus- why is it a halfway point? I can understand veneration and I want to at least respect them but I'm confused here as well. Also, if the east is so mystical, why do we need to create ideas of what reality could be like through things like the essence-energies distinction? Im confused and wondering why we shouldn't just wait until heaven to figure that out. I also believe in the presence of Christ in the Eucharist but I know there's scripture to back you up on that so I guess I'm trying to understand if its literal canabalism or something else.(Also in the churches why if we want to only worship God do you have saints occupying a space meant only for Him?) Thank you for taking the time to read this if you have, but this is important and I wanted to ask at least someone if I could. I know I sound heretical(at least in the last 2 questions) and I know that the PCUSA Church has SERIOUS problems, and just trying to make everything theologically come together. -Also, pray for Serbia☦

[@OrthodoxKyle]

1. David Erhan, Jay Dyer BOTH have a bunch of videos on Filioque. Just google their name with Filioque and you will see videos showing the details of why it is wrong, here are some.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3ead3apqNR_bLc kzbin.info/www/bejne/on2lcmmvbt1rqtE "other passages that it is the spirit of Christ." which specific passage are you talking about? context is very important and what the mean. Filioque has a very specific meaning of procession from Father AND the Son. procession means something very specific. 2. "why do we need to ask a someone (saint) in heaven to pray for us" Why wouldn't we want someone to pray for us? We ask everyone to pray for us including the Saints: orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/invocationofsaints.aspx This is also mentioned in revelation. 3. "Bible that none shall go to the Father except through Jesus-" are you referring to John 14:6 "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." this is just talking that there is no salvation without Jesus Christ.. I have a video called Praying to Saints is Demonic.. REFUTED.. may help you. 4. "hy do we need to create ideas of what reality could be like" Icons are meant to be historical, and we are showing respect to the Saints, Angels. God etc etc.. 7th council goes over this: orthodoxwiki.org/Seventh_Ecumenical_Council 5. " literal canabalism" no it isn't cannibalism because that would be eating dead flesh... Eucharist is real presence, spiritual nourishment and UNDER the guise of bread of wine. NOT cannibalism!! 6. "only worship God do you have saints occupying a space meant only for Him?" we don't worship the Saints. we worship God alone, we just venerate Saints. Join the discord: discord.com/invite/wtqDsy4eVs we have many people that can answer your questions. Get the Book Rock & Sand by Fr Josiah Trentham (will help answer your questions). AND most importantly go VISIT a Church: orthodoxyinamerica.org/ God bless!

[@ThumbKnuckle]

Please cover Jordan Cooper and Lutheran satire next.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

I will check out

[@keltonschleyer6367]

Lutheran Satire is actually a pretty good on-ramp for low-church Protestants because he articulates Luther’s correct positions on the Eucharist and the Trinity. He also roasts the current Pope 😂 This helped me notice that current Protestantism is divorced from historical Luther (who was also divorced from EO), a critical point that Rock and Sand brought up that Protestantism is chronically revisionist and progressive. I recommend mentioning these good points if you create a review/response to him.

[@asurrealistworld4412]

He's literally just giving reasons to be Orthodox.

[@LightOfOrthodoxy]

Brother, please make a video debunking Hinduism in the future. God bless!

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Yes, I will in the future. important video!

[@TheRealRealOK]

Cringe Protestants in the comments. 😂🤣🤡

[@Brother-in-christ43555]

I do like him however, he needs to find the true faith

[@whiteknight2330]

Damn man, i found your channel on complete accident and I am astonished. You are doing Godly work brother, I am Orthodox myself and I am very glad to see other Orthodox KZbinrs(shout-out to you for using picture from Battle at Kosovo, you are a true Chad), followed and hit that bell. Looking forward to other videos, i wish you all the best brother🇷🇸☦️

[@OrthodoxKyle]

thanks! check out my other videos. God bless ☦

[@apollosantaniello4862]

Could you make a video on being Orthodox in daily life? How to go through one's day and avoid sin and other people who will encourage sin. I'm in high school rn and find it hard to stick to the Lord when surrounded by hedonists and atheist teachers. Thanks brother

[@OrthodoxKyle]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGHadWtvjpWKaK8 Orthodox Christian Lifestyle I will try and talk about being Christian in Atheist society in other video... It gets better after high school!

[@calebhooper4266]

I watched his video while exploring Orthodoxy. His video actually helped me pull away from Protestantism towards Orthodoxy.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Glory to God! have you visited yet? orthodoxyinamerica.org/ reach out if you have questions!

[@abrahemsamander3967]

It’s ridiculous he needs his own thesis. His intentions are right. But it’s utterly pointless. Just use the nicene creed. Or even the apostles.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Just become Orthodox

[@AntonVShokolov]

While I disagree with your takes on the Catholic Church, I completely agree with what you say about protestantism. Calvinism is from the depths of hell and is a blight that should rot away.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Thank you! I used to be Roman Catholic, check out my video Why I left Catholicism for Rome. I have a bunch on Catholicism, look into Orthodoxy. God bless!

[@aCatholicOne]

protestant here, most of his arguments in that video were just self explanatory if you watched his other videos. he would often site the church fathers and the early church, in the question of authority protestants believe that the bible has things that you need to believe since they are explicitly said, and things that you cannot believe since the bible explicitly says not to. that is why we all need to agree in the trinity, niceen creed ect. if you are just reading this through quickly then you can miss some points as well so, strap your seat belts on, also dont take this as an insult brothers, meerly here to preach the gospel the reason why protestants believe you can split is because the holy spirit still remains in churches that have split, "why would they still have the holy spirit if they have different beliefs and interpretations?" having different interpretations is alright because by studying and reading the bible more, they are able to reach the same interpretation as other protestants. obviously we are imperfect, we are not going to look like a carbon copy of each other, but the holy spirit isnt just some magical thing that can change us immediately, we are able to reject it and such an example of this would be presbyterian and baptists, a baptist would be much more acceptable to images of angles and jesus and statues of jesus, while a presbyterian would either be skeptical of images and statues of jesus and outright discourage any drawing, statue or graven image of an object due to the second commandment. does this make baptists a untrue church from a presbyterian point of view? while we can discourage the fact of them not upholding the second commandment, take into consideration that baptists can and will tell their church to not make any paintings or graven of angles no more, did that mean that they changed their mind or that they accepted the holy spirit and changed? this is the reason why many protestants see orthodoxy worse than allowing change within churches is the things that makes tradition overall harmful for the church, since if we stick with one belief only and never change it, what happens when we are revealed that a belief of ours is wrong? we need to submit to the authority of the bible and not to the church's leaders. God bless.

[@darth3911]

We need a mix as many protestant churches like to take bible verses out of context, stripping them of meaning. This allows false teachers to claim stuff like homosexuality, transgenderism, and multi spiritualism (aka paganism) to be in accordance. Anyone who sits down and actually reads the bible and takes it for fact knows those things are sins and against the word. We need strong people in the church who can tell when, disprove, and remove false teachings from the church. Issue in protestantism is when this happens the church splits leading half to death and half to life. Thats why the catholic and orthodox churches are structures itself the way they are currently structured. Furthermore all protestant churches use bibles that are made by a heretic who removed books, and teachings from the scriptures. For that reason alone I can’t tie myself to any protestant denomination, yet the catholics also proven themselves false leaving me with non denominational and orthodoxy as paths for my choosing.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

"believe since the bible explicitly says not to." but this is the problem. you have thousands of denominations all operating on the belief of Sola Scriptura YET coming to different conclusions... HOW do you know you are interpreting the Bible correctly? please check out my video Protestantism Debunked in 15 minutes! "having different interpretations is alright" but if you read the Church Fathers it is not just different opinions, it is either orthodox or heterodox teaching.. theology is VERY important! "his make baptists a untrue church from a presbyterian point of view" well yes, Traditional they have been OUTSPOKEN against each other.. It is only a modern phenomenon, as things get watered down that they stop caring about difference... And NONE of the Protestants have monasteries. Monastic life has always been essential to Christianity! "things that makes tradition overall harmful... revealed that a belief of ours is wrong" so could the Church be wrong about the Trinity? Heaven? Eucharist? Baptism? The Church is established by Christ AND guided by the Holy Spirit.. This exact criticism is talked about in Rock & Sand By Fr Josiah Trenham.. This OPENS up the box to re-invent the wheel every century instead of follow the Tradition handed down from the Apostles = Jesus... "authority of the bible and not to the church's leaders. " where did the Bible come from? why do you accept Church's leadership to give cannon of the Bible??? HOW do you know you are interpreting the Bible correctly? watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpzcapiKgK-hqtE

[@aCatholicOne]

@@OrthodoxKyle hey, that was a fast response lol yes, we have "thousands" of denominations all operating on sola scriptura, and we do come to different conclusions. yet the church fathers were varied as well and all had different beliefs, so does that mean that the holy spirit wasn't guiding them according to that reasoning? yes, you are correct that the church fathers believed in either orthodoxy or heterodox teaching, yet the church fathers also believed in one true catholic church, so why arent you submitting to the roman catholic tradition? are you a heretic teaching heterodox! yes, baptist and presbyterian have historically been outspoken to each other, and still are. yet, both of use, baptist and presbyterians have also agreed on many things historically which is why i bring up the holy spirit where, since baptists dont have as strict policies, they are able to teach the correct teachings and follow all of the 10 commandments and repent. and yes, monasteries have also been a part if christian life, but so has temples for Gods work, circumcision, being a jew, and following a jewish life style. yet all of these things were solved by St. Paul thousands of years ago, why dwell on the same problem that has been solved and told onto you thousands of years ago, do you not know that St. Paul has told us to not dwell onto these issues since you can be circumcised and still be as if you were uncircumcised, same should be said for monasteries, you can go to one but does that make you better than one who just goes to church to eat his spiritual food? no, the church cannot be wrong about the trinity, heaven, eucharist and baptism because they are explicitly said, yet once when tradition gets in the way of the basic commandments that God himself gave unto us, then that would be against not only to our self but to the holy spirit. tradition is a good thing if we make the right things into tradition, trinity, heaven, eucharist and baptism being an example, but if we make graven images, saying that our good works are not that of the holy spirit, denying the good the holy spirit has done onto us and call that something good that we should uphold and saying its heretical if we break the most fundamentals of commandments, then with honesty that is not good for the church. the bible didn't come from church leaders, for there was no church to make the word of the bible, it was God himself who made the bible made the church and yet many church leaders have said otherwise, where did the church come from? the church cannot make the church so how can it make the bible? when you listen more to the church leaders than the word that has been given onto you that leads to things like progressive churches, cults and heretical leaders, "the church made the bible so listen to me not the bible!", is that what God taught? there is only one leader we should listen to with a full heart and he is one that is always with us, and he is the only church leader. many protestants dont see either roman catholic or eastern orthodox as a true church due to these things, some protestants like redeemed zoomer do show sympathy to the orthodoxy and still say theyre christian. in my opinion i can only see Gods judgment and see how much others abide by it. i pray for you either way, that you may soon read what is written and truly look into it. blessings

[@ducky1016]

"Bananas!"

[@OrthodoxKyle]

🍌

[@MetalByzantine]

I wish there was an Orthodox Church near me 😢

[@diablorojosincero4040]

Real

[@awake3083]

I'll pray you'll still be able to attend one, whether it be for special occasions or for the sacraments.

[@ne0nmancer]

I'm currently non-denominational, but i want to be part of the Orthodox Church. Unfortunately, there's no Orthodox Church i'm my city or within travelling distance, should i join the Catholic Church?

[@OrthodoxKyle]

No, Email the closest priest orthodoxyinamerica.org/ and tell them your situation, they will give you guidance and we ALSO have priest online discord.gg/orthodoxchristian that can help you, just message them and let them know your situation!

[@Snowman13230]

Poland has always been very nationalist, and it’s Catholic, Scotland is now nationalist and wants to secede from UK, and it’s Protestant, etc. etc. Similarly, all of his other arguments are superficial.

[@seanmyatt-philosophy1860]

I love your arguments. However, I tend to look at the Book of Job as a parable against legalism (or even the prosperity Gospel kind of thinking), not merely evidence that bad things can happen to good people. I think that story subtly hints that Job, while he was (perfectly?) lawful, he was lawful for his own sake. He did not have a relationship with God; he did not love the good for goodness’ sake alone.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Well Orthodoxy isn't legalistic... But fighting heresy is important. I think the story of Job is about how bad things happen, for seemingly random reasons.. but we need to trust in God's providence... we cannot overthink things!

[@georgios_5342]

The best point that can be made agaisnt the various Protestant sects is that the Bible isn't a "holy book" because Jesus said so. It is literally a collection of texts approved by the One Holy Apostolic Church, which is another name for the Orthodox Church. The Biblical Canon isn't God-given, it was composed by the Church!

[@OrthodoxKyle]

And that Church is guided by Holy Spirit!

[@LoftOfTheUniverse]

He posted some major cringe coming from a protestant that's more fond of orthodoxy

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Pray for him! and check out Rock & Sand.. amazing book that can help explain Protestant Reformers, & come visit: orthodoxyinamerica.org/ God bless ☦

[@LoftOfTheUniverse]

@@OrthodoxKyle Kyle any good orthodox stuff on eschatology?

[@Simeon_777]

I recently decided to leave my progressive lutheran church and become an orthodox. This video sounded exactly like all the thoughts I have going round and round in my head lol

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Glory to God!

[@Simeon_777]

Cooperating with the nazis to avoid making them angry at us. It's not because of 'protestant work ethic it's because of a total lack of actual ethics. 😊 Of course there are other factors as well, but this is the main one.

[@Simeon_777]

I am swedish and this is swedish history on elementary school level

[@jackpez.4526]

I don't want to be mean. But i can't take someone seriously if they're playing minecraft

[@MrSmith-zy2bp]

The prot dude sounds like a lolbertarian, too. Poor kid definitely needs prayers.

[@AimiliosChristidis]

Never stop brother Kyle! You inspire us. God bless you!

[@OrthodoxKyle]

thanks!

[@glitchyrhythm6749]

I think a lot of this kind of scenario comes down to, your family has been Protestant for generations. That’s been an issue for me. My dad has been a Protestant pastor for 40 years and converting to orthodoxy now at 31 and trying to explain it to him right after my first son was born (Who he understandably wants to baptize himself) It’s an extremely difficult conversation.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

Think of the earliest Christians... The faced the threat of torture & death and they still went to the truth... Give him Rock & Sand *great book* be gentle.. go visit a Church orthodoxyinamerica.org/ invite your Dad. give it time, pray for him. You never know what could happen. God bless!

[@liquidh5226]

Best Orthodox video and arguments i have seen this week! I watch alot

[@dayanaraviera3840]

I’d love to see a video of you debunking Mormonism and Jehovah’s Witnesses.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

yes! I want to cover both in the future!

[@dayanaraviera3840]

@@OrthodoxKyle Amazing!

[@georgios_5342]

The moral of the video is, Protestantism is wrong, but at least we have more money 🤑 PS, if money is what you're looking for, you should become a Jew 😅

[@RebiwGiant-um8vp]

Great, video. I just had to comment to make it 667. Low key terrified.

[@oliverqueen6077]

I disagree with the Eastern Orthodox's teaching on salvation. The Bible clearly teaches that God is the initiator of our salvation and keeper. Christ told Nicodemus he had to be born from above of the Holy Spirit. Christ also told the father that of all He had given Him, He had lost none except the son of perdition (Judas Isacariot). If we could lose our salvation, that would mean we could frustrate God's work of salvation. It would mean Christ's death on the cross was not effectual for those that perish. It makes no sense that Christ's sacrifice was not sufficient. John 1: 12-13 12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Part of 1 Corinthians 10:22 Are we stronger than he?

[@alt-monarchist]

Looks like I will have to make my own response video to this Zoomer

[@OrthodoxKyle]

the more = the better!

[@TheRealRealOK]

Subbed to your channel

[@alt-monarchist]

​@@OrthodoxKyle I Kept my promise brother

[@JCOwens-zq6fd]

Well done as always Kyle. God bless!

[@OrthodoxKyle]

thanks!

[@hollyinhell]

I'm new to Christianity. This conversation goes over my head. I hope someday I can be knowledged enough to understand. In the meantime, I'm going to keep watching.

[@evgeniylysenko2437]

For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. (Matthew 18:20). It's not specific denominations and tradition, it's our belief in Christ that saves us and unites us all. We are all humans who can misinterpret different places of Bible and non of us are right, but the Lord.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

One verse cannot form you entire view of Christianity.. We need the Church. I made a strong case in the video that Orthodoxy has the right theology, liturgy etc etc Get the Book Rock & Sand by Fr Josiah Trenham and PLEASE visit a Church orthodoxyinamerica.org/ just try it out, God bless!

[@serafimbarbu7711]

I actually found RZ’s channel before Kyle but even though I’m an eastern orthodox and I have a different view on christianity. I’m currently watching both of them.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

I like RZ BUT his theology is very bad.. so be careful. watch other Orthodox channels: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3SWiaqGbbuWorMsi=8hOfKgz-ZdAmopOL

[@georgios_5342]

21:06 or maybe it's got to do with the Orthodox people being slaves of the Muslim Ottomans for centuries and also being betrayed by the Catholic Crusaders?

[@OrthodoxKyle]

watch part 2, he responded!

[@troll707]

Tradition is very important and saying that isn’t “idolizing” it whatsoever. He goes on and talks about traditional mainline Protestantism but that’s not the state of Protestantism. Mainstream prots have completely gotten away from tradition and that’s because they don’t prioritize the importance of it

[@Ty2048]

Kyle has A10's 💪

[@lorielobo9224]

good video Kyle thanks for defending the orthodox faith

[@OrthodoxKyle]

☦v

[@ethandetienne1904]

Looking fresh with that collared shirt and sweater combo

[@OrthodoxKyle]

thanks

[@Nebulous_Encounter]

Tsk tsk. Like I'd ever take advice from a guy who breaks dirt blocks with his axe.

[@meemstar2333]

i'm serbian orthodox by birth, and youtube recomended me his short history of christianity video, and when i saw orthodoxy as a side branch and protestantism on top i immediately clicked off

[@Jerônimo_de_Estridão]

13:43 The Holy Spirit is indeed called the "Spirit of Christ" or "Spirit of the Son", but He is also called "the Spirit of Elijah" (2Kg; Lk) or "the Spirit of the Prophets" (1Cor). This is not about the eternal procession of the Spirit, the only place that the eternal procession is explained is in the words of Jesus in the Gospel of John: "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me." The Father proceded the Spirit for the Son, thats why Jesus said: "All things that the Father hath are mine", not that he participated in the eternal procession of the Spirit, but that in the Trinitarian life the Father gave the Spirit to him, and He gave it back to the Father in an eternal act of Love. If the westerns at the time were wanting to add to the Creed because they thought that it was biblical they should have called an ecumenical council and them debated the question. The Orthodox did not accept the Filioque because it was NOT biblical, nor patristic. It is "biblical" only in the surface, just like prot "sola fide" is "biblical.

[@OrthodoxKyle]

☦☦

[@davedave7347]

Bertrand Russell video?

[@OrthodoxKyle]

maybe

[@Gemson-rh3pv]

What is he even waffling about lmao, it almost seems like he struggle saying coharent sentences while trying to refute Orthodoxy by playing minecraft lmao