Redesigning a Chinese facing head to actually work.

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@Mad.Man.Marine 9 ай бұрын

Anyone saying he could have built it from scratch cheaper has never built anything like that from scratch. I have built many projects like this from scratch and it takes way way longer then the 300 bucks is worth to spend. Even if you need to reengineer half of it. You are still starting out with a mostly completed tool. Nice work man. I just subscribed. Surprised it took me this long to come across your channel.

@perpetualmotion1 9 ай бұрын

Right on, I spent about 20 hours and $200 just building the gate, hinges, and latch mechanism for my back porch 😂

@Mad.Man.Marine 8 ай бұрын

@@perpetualmotion1 lol. I’ve done that shit so many times. When you do the kinda stuff we do it’s hard not to think We’ll shit… I could just build it from scratch. But a lot of the time it’s way faster to buy a partial or completed project or product and then tweak it to fit your needs.

@Lokimyrottie 9 ай бұрын

Nice mod on the facing head. Love to see your son learn from a master like you. Waiting for the next video to come out.

@perpetualmotion1 9 ай бұрын

I got my fingers crossed!

@Lokimyrottie 9 ай бұрын

@@perpetualmotion1 surely, i see it in him already, I too learned a lot from my dad when i was small. I see myself in him.

@evanaustin2636 9 ай бұрын

I think it has a lot better chance of working now than it did before. I hope it works well!

@perpetualmotion1 9 ай бұрын

🤞

@luked237 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing I have always wondered about one of these to go with my mag drill set up

@benbecker3842 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for posting this, I’ve been looking at the same facing tool and was unsure. Gives me a good idea on what I’ll need to do to get it working properly.

@perpetualmotion1 8 ай бұрын

I hesitated for a while myself. It's not bad for the money.

@sallybrokaw6124 9 ай бұрын

A company called Vevor has been sending KZbin channels stuff to try out. Most of their products are sub par design, assembly and packaging a product complete. This is why at auctions American made hand tools and machine tooling is bringing good prices.AL B.

@perpetualmotion1 9 ай бұрын

I have bought a few of their tools, you definitely get what you pay for. I'd take a beat up old American tool over a brand new Chinese one any day.

@funone8716 8 ай бұрын

All these great boring mill vids, inspire me to get mine set up and more usable. Do you have 4ft of concrete under yours, or a more realistic floor that it sits on? No heat where mine is, so cold weather keeps me away from it.

@perpetualmotion1 8 ай бұрын

I have a steel reinforced 6" floor in my shop. Good enough for my purposes.

@glmf 9 ай бұрын

Interested to see how this works!

@perpetualmotion1 9 ай бұрын

Hopefully we'll find that out by tomorrow!

@normesmonde5332 9 ай бұрын

Well done I bought a couple of ER Collet arbors for my mill I couldn’t even buy the material for the price of a finished iso30 arbor. Quality not bad either

@perpetualmotion1 9 ай бұрын

We are in the sad situation where domestic manufacturing is losing quality and production capacity, and the Chinese are going in the opposite direction. It's just a matter of time before their stuff is actually better than what we're building here.

@normcameron2316 3 ай бұрын

Love your lathe. That was built in the days of heavy work ability, wide bed, heavy head stock. Not like today's imported stuff.

@perpetualmotion1 3 ай бұрын

Lodge & Shipley was the largest lathe manufacturer in the world prior to world war II, hardly anyone has heard of them now they've been gone so long.

@normcameron2316 3 ай бұрын

@@perpetualmotion1 I was looking at the Warner & Swasey. Are they related? I had a really old L&S a long time ago, I was going to scrape it back in but sadly life events got in the way. Ended up for scrap I suspect.

@procyonia3654 9 ай бұрын

I use 2 of those on my HBM to face ears on fire truck ladder turrets clamped to a line boring bar I stick through the Pin holes. Make afew of them a year

@perpetualmotion1 9 ай бұрын

I thought about building one from scratch, but I figured even if the Chinese one was totaled junk it was still something to start from.

@Freetheworldnow 9 ай бұрын

I wish your vidéographie was better! I love your channel and love to see your boy helping and learning on the fly! You guys will ultimately make a great team! Good job on this facing head by the way:) Thanks for sharing. God Bless. WWG1WGA

@perpetualmotion1 9 ай бұрын

I know, the first thing I'm buying when I get a couple extra dollars is a good camera, I'm just having a hard time figuring out what the right one is. Unfortunately that still doesn't fix the skill of the guy running the camera 😬 K8DT

@perpetualmotion1 9 ай бұрын

I should add, the editing is also a serious weak point, I quickly threw this video together in about half an hour when I should have been going to bed last night...

@prasant53 4 ай бұрын

What thread pitch they used in that feed screw of facing head

@moki123g 8 ай бұрын

Like most tools from China, it is more of a DIY kit that is 80% the way there.

@perpetualmotion1 8 ай бұрын

Perfect description 😂

@TrPrecisionMachining 9 ай бұрын

good job

@perpetualmotion1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you

@daleolson3506 9 ай бұрын

Should have shimmed the pinch bolt and tightened it.

@perpetualmotion1 9 ай бұрын

I don't think in this instance it would have helped anything, I ended up snugging it up until I got rid of the harmonics and just cutting. Something about the original machining made it necessary for that thing to squeeze down a little bit in order to free up the slide. There's no two ways about it, we were polishing a turd.

@chrisstephens6673 8 ай бұрын

Watching you use a lathe makes my back ache, so lord knows what it is doing to yours. 😕 I'm 6 ft 6 and raised my lathe about 8 inches and even average height people find it more comfortable to use now.

@perpetualmotion1 8 ай бұрын

I have definitely thought about it 🙂

@chrisstephens6673 8 ай бұрын

@@perpetualmotion1 as you get older you will appreciate the effort, and it is easy enough to get your "apprentice " a box to stand on.😉 I know lathe manufacturers think one size fits all but this is not so, and you do look tall.

@perpetualmotion1 8 ай бұрын

@@chrisstephens6673 I'm 6', so the misery isn't quite as bad for me 🙂

@chrisstephens6673 8 ай бұрын

@@perpetualmotion1 oh so you are only a shorty, that lathe must by sitting in a trough 😄😄

@daves.8892 8 күн бұрын

What surprises me is the Chinese ingenuity to be able to make something shittty! Like it takes more brain cells to engineer something to be junk rather than at least decent quality....

@perpetualmotion1 8 күн бұрын

My father had the unenviable task of going to Mexico back in the early '80s to figure out why a foundry was running such outrageous scrap rates down there, if I remember right they were running 60% scrap. It turned out that the problem was that the people who were casting the camshafts in that foundry had no comprehension of what a camshaft did or what an engine even was, and so any lumpy bumpy looking chunk of iron was good enough to them. Getting the scrap rate reduced required educating the entire workforce on what the function and purpose of the part they were making was, I suspect there's some of that going on in china.

@daves.8892 8 күн бұрын

@perpetualmotion1 for sure. They just clone something that someone has already made with no idea what the heck its for and how it works and therefore you get junk!

@warrenjones744 9 ай бұрын

Being one who has owned a Climax facing and grooving head for some twenty years now, that has proven to be well worth it's cost. I am not impressed by this at all. I will be interested to see how it works for you. Cheers.

@perpetualmotion1 9 ай бұрын

I guarantee you that was a lot cheaper 20 years ago than they are now, just the bb5000 is knocking on the door of $60k these days.

@warrenjones744 9 ай бұрын

@@perpetualmotion1 Crazy isn't it? In 1996 28 years ago I think I bought a well decked out BB-1149, the predecessor to the BB500. Large bore head, small bore kit and I think four boring bars for well under $20K and LTL shipping to NH from Oregon was 140 dollars. I bought this particular model facing head some years later soon after it was introduced. I think it was $4500 then, not insignificant. I now build nearly all of my own tooling and only buy parts not easily made from Climax. Nevertheless I hope this thing works for you, I am fairly confident you will make it go. Cheers

@perpetualmotion1 9 ай бұрын

Mind boggling, I go out of my way to avoid buying from climax, their markup must be impressive. I was in a pinch and bought new sprag clutch bearings from them a year or so ago for my feed box, after I got it apart and found the part numbers I discovered they were charging me almost 3 times the list price!

@warrenjones744 9 ай бұрын

@@perpetualmotion1 Yep! the funny thing is you can buy the round spherical bearing retainers for the mount with the good Seal Master bearing insert for what is a reasonable price considering what everyone else seems to want for a bearing insert alone. Who knows? I just learned yesterday that they were recently sold to Specialized Fabrication Equipment Group. Again who knows what that might mean? I do know that they make good machinery for what it is used for that is well engineered and very expensive. In recent years their customer service is not what it once was. Par for the course.