Why Premium Duty Generals are 98% Useless

[@beckmn1]

I have been using Hammurabi as my research duty officer. The main reason being his higher based stats enable me to cultivate him up to Super Duty level that gives a +40% research speed bonus (I have him at level 37 where his base stats for Leadership is 930 and Politics is at 928). I still have Mundeok waiting in the wings. I could only get him up to Special duty level with the 25% research speed increase. Mundeok is at 882 and 879 for base stats for these that makes it impossible at this level to get up to 1400 point requirements.

[@RedEvony]

That’s interesting. I guess in that case, it would be beneficial for you to use Hammurabi. 🙂 For reference, my Mundeok is at Lv 38 and is Super Duty, so you don’t have long to go 😉👌

[@markliddle5628]

i totally agree with everything you said i dont use any of the premium ones i use the tavern ones so i can ascend , great video again

[@RedEvony]

Thank you 😊🙏

[@shk2564]

You are absolutely correct about that! I focused on ascending the duty officers before all else and most of them are 8-9 stars because they give the most buffs to ALL troops! I do however want to point out that the premium Research officer does provide siege buffs that might make it worth putting him on duty during battles unless you have ascended the regular one enough to be better! 🤷🏽‍♂️ 😊

[@sanchellewellyn1681]

I got Mason Weaver from one of the spinning wheels so far. I just take them as I get them. (Haven't even used her yet--her scroll is just sitting in my items.)

[@dnola6887]

The premium duty generals, except for the new 3 new duty generals, who are the only choice, are intended to be on duty during PVP, while the original group is intended to be on duty during peacetime. It's like having Shajar as your wall assistant during peace but replacing her when it is PVP time. Hammurabi is intended to be the Academy duty officer only during PVP, or if he's the only one you have. The choice is whether they are better with only their main skill than the "peacetime" duty general who likely can be ascended. I got lucky with Ashoka and switch him out with Menshikov. I have Menshikov on right now. I'll switch him with Ashoka for BoG later today and switch back after it's over. I'll switch out for SVS next week. Menshikov for growth, Ashoka for battle. But Aka is right about the ascension issue. It is very difficult to even get the shards to ascend a premium duty general to even 1 star, so he's right about that. You'll have to decide whether a well-ascended regular duty general is better than a premium duty general with only the basic main skill (check specialties as well).

[@christieharris5872]

The point is since you cannot ascend them you cannot get those buffs. You have to weigh the extra things from ascension with the base stats

[@Creeper-m9]

That’s exactly what Nola said except he explained that they’re pvp time duty gens as well. They add hp etc to your troops. So you use during war to get the buffs and switch back to the acsendable duty general for peace

[@christieharris5872]

@@Creeper-m9 yes they are PVP generals but if the buffs you get from the older ones from ascending either meet or beat the premium ones why are you using them.

[@carolynredinger439]

I agree. As long as you are willing to switch everyone around, there's no reason to give up even the basic level PvP buffs. Plus, the Oracle likes me. 😉

[@youssef9320]

A brilliant content as always Aka 👍

[@RedEvony]

Thank you very much 😊🙏

[@Sparks-N-Torque]

We wanted to see you spin the wheel! I have your luck as well. I only received Kaguya myself. None of the others 🤷‍♂️ thanks for the video

[@RedEvony]

I had no idea you wanted to see me spin 😅😂 Maybe next time 😉👌

[@iamtscott69]

I’m stacking those Delphic Oracle chest. 😂. I discovered recently that the generals inside change. Unfortunately, what I was originally going to get is no longer in there and I have no interest in the current selection. I’ll wait it out while working towards K35. I find those premium duty generals useful. I simply switch to them before entering the battlefield. I switch back after the event. 🤷🏽‍♀️. I love and appreciate your videos. Thank You and keep up the great work.

[@RedEvony]

Thank you 😊🙏 That’s an interesting idea stacking up the chests. Not sure it’ll work, but if you don’t need to use the generals right now, I guess it’s worth a shot 😇 Yeah, those premium generals are cool when you haven’t done ascension on your duty generals and you can switch them out easily. It’s a different story once you start ascending your duty generals 😅

[@amyl3729]

How many do you get? geeze

[@savethehumans7460]

Thanks for the share Aka.

[@RedEvony]

Hope you enjoyed it ☺️

[@robertaguilar4162]

One thing I’m getting tired of is the older snobs misleading lower level players every time they ask if a general is good or not. They then proceed to shoot quality generals down just because premium alternatives are out there. I then always bring up the question of money and they always get silent. I always give the same advice pick quality generals available in the core game and let RNGesus sort you out. I will never put down anyone for coining but come on. Not everyone is going to.

[@nanuk23]

Do the specialties work on Duty Generals?

[@SonitaMaloney]

Thanks Aka😮❤..always good

[@RedEvony]

Thank you very much 😊🙏

[@queenlip6152]

You should redo this after your latest video about a 10* Elektra being worse than the newest 5* premium general. 😅😊

[@stevewalker3110]

Whos the best duty officer for cav?

[@HandyMan657]

I have never recieved 1 general from that spinning wheel. Without buying a pack or 2 never, even then only Ashoka. Hey we have almost the same duty gens! Thanks AkA, I agree.

[@RedEvony]

Thanks Patrick 😊🙏 Yeah, that wheel can be very annoying. Oh, that’s cool 😃. I’m using all the original duty generals 😁👍

[@yingdou8880]

why can't you use both tavern and premium ones? one for development time and one for war time.. and how about specialties?

[@RedEvony]

You could use both at the same time: the old general for “peacetime” and the premium general for PvP. 👌 However, once you get to the point where you start doing the ascension on your duty generals, you wouldn’t be able to do that, because the general you ascend will be the one that you will be using all the time, and that is most likely going to be the old duty general. Specialties work on duty generals, but it’s a similar logic for specialties: no point doing specialties for a general that you will not be using 😇

[@angelasohn9513]

I got lucky and got two of those premium duty generals. However, like you say, I know I won't be able to ascend them. But I am not at the point of the game where I will be ascending my duty generals anytime soon. So I plan to use the premium ones until I start to get to the point of ascending my duty generals.

[@jessicagaron88]

Omg I died laughing … with the holy place general little miss scary😂

[@RedEvony]

😂😂 Glad you liked that 😊 But she IS scary though 😅😂

[@chrishardaway17]

Heraclius is available in the Knight's Valiancy General Chest

[@RedEvony]

Oh yeah, that’s right. He’s in the same pack that has Darius. Thanks for reminding me 🙏 But as with most things in Evony, it’s a $100 pack and random

[@brettmeyer707]

Specialties can make a huge difference when comparing. I don’t feel like typing everything out, but look up some of the differences

[@DejuVu]

I recruited all my duties from tavern only duty I got was Ashoka to 1 red star lol I've got Stilicho also but since those two ive never won another duty officer from Oracle I have enough fragments for practically all tavern duty officers @450 or 300 ish besides rally spot

[@AD-jd3og]

Would you make a video on Soul Binding?

[@RedEvony]

At some point, yes. But for now, it’s a feature that the majority of players will not be able to make use of

[@phacialoveskakashi2119]

You mentioned "when you begin to ascend your duty generals". When do you believe is a reasonable time to begin that endeavor? After your march generals are fully ascended?

[@mikep509]

The most value is at least 1 star on duty officers for defense

[@RedEvony]

Definitely NOT after your march generals are fully ascended 😅😂 It will depend on your priorities, but when you want to focus on your defense, you will probably begin paying attention to those. Get the generals ascended to 1 star, then you can decide what to do from there 🙂👌

[@cakie_0933]

I usually do it when I run out of my march general fragments and previously I have bought the general from the event by ascending the duty generals 😅

[@Dreamcore_and_Weirdcore]

I got ashoka when I was around keep level 11 and just did my champion and got him out of it. Still using him for my keep and works out great

[@mdnasim6035]

Hey aka who can be a good assistant for cease? I got ceaser but he is very load in atrack so i need an assistant who can pair with him for hunting monsters i am thinking of li naomasa, will he work with ceaser?

[@KalebYoung-vv5qp]

I use Casear/Sanada for hunting monsters an Casear/Custer for world boss I am however using li namosa for pvp cav since his skills are universal.

[@Arslow_NEIPA]

Aka, what do you think about the new general for cavs: Laudon?

[@RedEvony]

He’s alright. Decent stats. Not sure I’ll do a comparison on him yet though

[@Arslow_NEIPA]

Im having difficultés pairing him. Maybe with Zhao Yung but in that case I cant have cavs atack skillbook..

[@jeffharper6064]

Thank you so much for great info!

[@Jseerockhead40]

Premium is supposed to be the best of the best, not the best sometimes, it feels like out of the bad ones you mentioned, at least two were Friday morning jobs, do a job Friday, your brain is already in weekend mlde, I hope everyone understood that

[@Gunstarby]

yeap, you`re correct but why are talking about duty generals only? We have the same situation for all premium generals in evony. If you can`t get the copies from tavern, relics or events - it`s almost impossible to ascend them. And with Evony introducing new general every 2 weeks it`s almost impossible to get needed generals from scrolls or from Champion too. Surely if you have adequate alternative for free or from events like knights trial - no point to switch on premium options. But there are a lot of premium duty generals who haven`t free alternatives and it`s better to have them even without ascending than using any generals on duty spots just to get duty buffs.

[@RedEvony]

The reason the premium generals are still a bit better than the premium duty generals is because of the way Evony releases the generals. New premium generals released in the General Summoning are a lot more accessible to the player base compared to the Duty generals, which are usually released through special events or are in the cake. So while most people will not be able to fully ascend premium generals, it is still possible to ascend them a bit 1-3 stars. I fall into this category as well. But these premium duty generals are impossible for the majority of players to ascend.

[@mato2047]

This video may be 6 months out, but I still feel the same as I would be now. That is, the Premium are absolutely NOT useless and of them ESPECIALLY Ashoka is not useless. Ashoka giving a Range buff a universal one at that imo puts him as a use over Menshnikov. Perhaps if you can go to 10 star quickly or at once then perhaps, but IF you can one red star the premium then usually that ends up after specialties to be in the premiums favor. I think you seem to discount the specialties for some of them. Many have a in city attack bonus to a troop type and even in the non- 4th specialty. to each his own though. Got to say, I could give three shiz about the research speed when i can swap him back in just for big research time. Otherwise Hammurabi is one of the most valuable with what he gives at "idle" so to speak. Especially should you win them free, it is a no brainer to use them when the duty are not fully ascended and definitely during your "peace" time so to speak. To each their own I suppose.

[@DSN0W39]

Same here brother! And not just with gens. My alt gets all the good gens, and even the marches from the compass event without spending a cent. Lol. And don't get me started on refining. I need a mill gems or more to get 4 gold on one piece.

[@lachic9024]

Thank you for another informative video.

[@RedEvony]

Hope you enjoyed it 😊

[@phacialoveskakashi2119]

I got heraclius in the trial of knights $100 package with my 3x coupon. The other two i got were copies of someone i already had but when i saw heraclius i about busted out of my shoes.

[@RedEvony]

Wow, lucky you 🥳🥳 For me, I’ve given up on random Evony packs. If I spend another $100 and get some random crap, I’ll probably break something 😅🤣

[@dh29061]

Stopped playing the game a while ago. The cake in the end got me good, not gonna lie 🤣🤣🤣🤣 How could I forget about that 😆

[@RedEvony]

😂😂 you can’t forget the cake 😂

[@Omar-e7h7i]

most of my premium are almost all 3 red stars because of knight trial package. you can get them there easily

[@calebkelechi4517]

On the long run there will be events that will give copies of these generals. It is a patience game

[@RedEvony]

I agree with you on that. The problem is how long will that take? 1 year? 2 years? Knowing Evony, most likely not in a few months 😅

[@phh.8393]

I didn't get anything from the sh!tty wheel 😂 the only decent I get was probably Nassau and I got him from Alliance Competition

[@RedEvony]

I agree, the wheel is sh!tty 😂😂

[@DanielGibbons-v9k]

The specialties and ascension are superior for the new generation. As with most things in this game, it's a matter or what you are willing to day. Same for the new sub city generals, and the PVP generals. The best bang for your buck is the "pairs" like Pallas and Kleos, Douglas and Eleanor, etc. They will be the top generals for siege, ranged, etc. for about 12 months or so.

[@Trapshooter37]

I got Pericles on my second spin but of course on my farm acct

[@RedEvony]

I hate it when that happens 😖

[@saquibahmed9056]

I dont put any good duty general beacuase i dont have 😂 . My highest general rank is electra. So when i have to research, build troops i used to put electra in that duty general gain and remove it. No tension of any duty general 😂😂😂😂

[@RedEvony]

😂 Ah, I remember those days ☺️☺️ Don’t worry, you’ll get to this point soon enough 😉💪

[@saquibahmed9056]

@@RedEvony Thanks. Waiting 😊

[@shk2564]

“The reason Evony designed it like this” is because of the 2% that will spend enough to fully ascend them and those who will spend to get one copy or more! 😂

[@shk2564]

You want to hear something sad? One of my farms got Otto from a free spend! 😱😳😭😂

[@ad2902]

I have an 8 star premium ground duty general I did trial of knights to get fragments

[@RedEvony]

You mean from the Trial of Knights Package? Iirc no duty generals have been redeemable during the event 🤔

[@ad2902]

@RedEvony Yeah if you buy the 100 packs the duty officers are in there sometimes its usually really good generals and only about 800 to finish wheel

[@Chillinndealin]

Lil Miss Scary, 😂. . .that's a good one.

[@RedEvony]

😂👍

[@jaanuswtc]

Hey. There is a new building (in 1502 atleast). you get buffs that go up to lvl10 (just need k10 and do new quests to be able to go to lvl10.) For example you get +15% construction & research speed, +25% production, +5% atk, def, hp , +6%atk on monster and some healing +training related and misc. Basically you get a golden Europe, America, China and other buffs from the start of the game.

[@RedEvony]

Yeah, I heard about that. Will look into it

[@Elginecologoracing]

That I was telling on BOG today... I will save that chest lol

[@RedEvony]

I think that’s a good call 😉👍

[@roger_dr]

*Hey brother, I love you but... I must be the unluckiest guy on spinning wheel just won monarch exp and I feel little kidded as a monarch 41*

[@RedEvony]

Damn bro 😅😅 That’s pretty much the same thing I got for this event. When these events come around, I really don’t expect anything from them anymore. I just take it as “some extra items” 😇👌

[@TheLokidavid]

The only difference between evony and a raider is that Evony uses Generals instead of a gun to take our money

[@mikep509]

.... they aren't robbing you though, you are surrendering it willingly 😂😂😂

[@stefanturcudecu5482]

I was lucky enough to get 1 Maurice of Nassau, but I am only using him as it is till I start hte more important gens XD

[@RedEvony]

That’s cool. I think that’s probably the best way to go 👌

[@manuelgalindo5303]

I got Ashoka and Sulla (both better than Menshikov and John of Portugal in my opinion), i'm happy so far being a non-coiner.

[@RedEvony]

Nice. Congrats 🥳🥳

[@mikep509]

Not useless... an effective wealth transfer from your pocket to evony,s 😂😂😂

[@RedEvony]

😂😂😂 And it’s proving quite effective 😂

[@eltiger-thetiger6915]

You absolutely right bro..

[@RedEvony]

Thanks Bro 😊

[@dannyharber6445]

Unholy duty general. Lol. Agreed. Small rebuttal $1000 yes 2-4 copies, but that’s not the meat of what the $1000 provides. 😉

[@RedEvony]

Yes, the general is not all you would get for spending $1,000, but it still means that you have to spend that much money 💰💵 if you want to ascend the general (freebies and extras aside). Also, the special duty general pack is not as good as the regular event pack. You get much more value from the regular pack. The only reason one would opt for the lower value duty general pack is because they want the general 😉

[@dannyharber6445]

Spending it anyway. 😂

[@RedEvony]

😂👍

[@Ciel578Hel]

Yeah true new duty gens too expensive.

[@geno929]

Who in there correct mind will spend $1000 on Evony?

[@RedEvony]

A lot more people than you’d think 😇

[@youngjohn5076]

You would need to spend $1800-$2000 to be able to ascend them. Crazy

[@BadStoryDan]

It's $800 per copy with zero double downs. So 16 copies is $12,800.

[@Harry-ii6js]

best analysis

[@RedEvony]

Thank you 😊🙏

[@Koldheart5]

Wow u got two

[@RedEvony]

Yeah. I’m surprised as well 😄 One of my alliance mates (a non coiner) has about 4 of them, the lucky b@$&@@# 🤣🤣

[@alchemiamagic4722]

they are useless and agree with you. I find Trivia Hecate super cool :-) lol

[@jairogarcia5423]

Sorry Aka, they are only useless because we cant have it.. they are great if you can have them

[@RedEvony]

I think we are saying the same thing 😄

[@locoberzerker]

Sounds like a bunch of doodie!

[@lady1143]

S for super coiner, i think S in the clothes for super aka. you are never knows how many fans you have aka becarefull maybe we will kidnap you soon 🤣🤣🤣

[@RedEvony]

🤣🤣🤣 So far, my fans have been great 😁 But don’t worry, I’m Super Aka 💪! If necessary, I’ll just fly away 🤣🤣

[@UWAIS_941]

•ZFX• HERE AKA!! 🤍 LOVE IT BRO, KEEP POSTING