The Nightmare on Elm Street Series - re:View (Part 2)

We're baaaaack! This time, Mike and Jay discuss Nightmare on Elm Streets 5-7. 7 aka New Nightmare, a movie that's pretty good until Freddy turns into a Halloween store rubber demon mask that's eyeballs pop out.
A Nightmare on Elm Street Commentary Track: redlettermedia...

[@bobberrt930]

Mike is taking a break from making fun of old people to repeatedly call a child ugly.

[@LordEptar]

Mike was born a middle-aged man, destined to make fun of both the elderly and the very young.

[@jmstringfield]

Why is it I haven't even seen the review yet and I know exactly who you are talking about?

[@JozzFilms]

He’s a versatile hater

[@kevinjohnston4923]

The kid isn’t sexy enough for him, unlike the children from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

[@deusEXmachinaV42]

It's newish ground.

[@mcmurch]

Mike: having an actress' headshot in your house is weird Also Mike: Digs through Rich Evans' trash for photos of Rich Evans

[@ggt47]

But they're friends.

[@Targisvear]

@@ggt47 I mean, the actress is supposed to be just the character who is someone's friend, so same logic?

[@ggt47]

@@Targisvear Sarcasm, apologies.

[@Targisvear]

@@ggt47 All jokes in good fun, take care man.

[@muthesquirrel]

That's him looking for pictures of his crush for the Rich shrine hidden behind the detachable pannel in his wardrobe. All perfectly normal.

[@taylorsmith3211]

This poor kid getting called ugly by Mike in two different videos, made years apart, is absolutely hilarious to me.

[@3wwerocks]

What was the first time?

[@kochiyama]

@@3wwerocks Mike roasts him pretty hard in the Jurassic Park commentary. Said he's so ugly he should have played a dinosaur.

[@hteekay]

All I want to know is how many years apart it is for both Nightmares in Elme's Street 5 and Jurassic Park because the kid looked like he never grew up at all

[@nickjohnston7946]

Just glad to see consistency lol

[@Paraves426]

I bet he looks like child Mike

[@ArchersVideo]

Jay acting like he's barely heard of Tetsuo coming across a little unbelievable. I suspect he watches it every night to fall asleep

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

Fans have spent the last decade telling him to check it out and he refuses. He might actually be one of those people who can't read subtitles and pay attention to the movie at the same time.

[@jUQMtDmf]

@@DistractedGlobeGuy They don't really watch non-American movies anyway unfortunately

[@flyingonblades]

It was aired on Joe bob’s last drive in… that’s most likely how Jay saw it… it was basically chosen for him by a horror host. That’s the only reason I’ve seen it. Cool movie though 💪

[@Griff48432]

@@jUQMtDmf I've noticed that they hardly review animated films either. I would love to see a discussion about Satoshi Kon films. I guess they don't know as much about animation

[@blacktommer3543]

@@jUQMtDmf You want to tell me that all of Jay's Italian horror movies are actually American?

[@Etanial]

I still can't believe they ended the whole series on such a different note. Freddy Got Fingered just didn't seem to work with the rest of the series

[@Lonestarz95]

Jay: *knows obscure movie trivia* "How the f_ck do you know these things?"- Says the man who knows 99% of all Star Trek trivia

[@keithoneil9894]

The only Star Trek facts Mike doesn’t know are the ones that don’t exist yet.

[@somethingsomething8511]

Only 99%?! Those are fighting words... Luckily Mike is Star Trek nerd, so you can probably take him

[@nagi3078]

says the man who compiles the freddy headshot theory

[@hannibalburgers477]

Used to know* Picard burned his brain

[@HungL0W]

I refuse to believe that. Mike and Rich are grifters and doing an over-elaborate joke

[@RobertJRoman]

I just realized something. I don't know how I missed it before. Mike assesses movies based on their totality. An weak ending, that makes a movie fall apart, will ruin it for him. Jay experiences movies moment by moment. A weak ending to a movie for him is no worse than a weak closing track on an album.

[@captured_agent5714]

Basically Jay experiences movies the way he experiences The Manhole

[@texivani]

Jay is just more intuitive with filmmaking stuff. He's not necessarily in it for the story, he watches stuff to learn and experience the mind of a director, see new techniques or clever ways to do something. So when something is bad, he still gets something out of it, he still enjoys the process. Mike also cares about that stuff, but it's not his focus. He cares more about the actual story, the atmosphere, the characters, the universe, etc. When a director is incompetent and Jay can see everything that should have been done, he gets upset. When a storyteller is incompetent or there's studio medelling with an artist's vision, Mike gets upset. Jay likes the technical stuff, Mike likes the storytelling. They both sort of like everything.

[@Kan-ova]

Yes, I remember him saying he liked hereditary but didn’t like the movie because at the end the football team doesn’t come in and beat up the monster lol

[@heyimwilly]

Cool story, bro.

[@rozero123459gnh]

@@heyimwilly This Willy guy has the correct answer

[@benhillman8384]

Literally an entire hour of Jay trying to pretend he doesn’t remember the drill dick scene from Tetsuo.

[@Eamonshort1]

And by "remember" you mean regularly jerks off to right? I knew Jay was one of my people

[@chadwickjdillon]

That will fuck a brain up

[@BrianRRenfro]

Second only to the drill dick scene in Driller. "I'm your driller man baby! Ahhahahahahah"

[@asmodiusjones9563]

Yeah, I was like gtfo Jay pretending he hasn’t had a Tetsuo birthday cake at least once. That movie is so far up Jay’s alley you couldn’t see the main street from it anymore.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

​@@asmodiusjones9563 people have been telling Jay that for the last ten years and he still refuses to watch it. I'm genuinely starting to wonder if he just can't read subtitles like most Americans.

[@joshuagayouauthor8401]

I love that in Mike's world any con artist is instantly smoking a cigarette.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

Or any pretentious hack director that thinks he's the next Coppola.

[@joshuagayouauthor8401]

@@DistractedGlobeGuy right, like I said. Con artist :P

[@ShennyIsLive]

The question is, what's in the cigarette? 😉

[@kage6613]

I think it's a cigar.

[@thesultrystrangerdanger6824]

They are from Milwaukee...

[@tyranusfan]

How did Mike miss the nun telling the story? She was in TNG season 1, as Troi's potential stepmother. And Fran Bennett in New Nightmare was in TNG as an admiral in Redemption part 2.

[@Scott_Silver]

What a hack fraud!

[@rippedlampshade]

Always knew Mike was a fake fan

[@equinesound]

Mike didn’t even call out that the hooker with three boobs in Total Recall is Ensign Sonya Gomez. Very disappointing. I guess maybe he’s never looked at her face though.

[@Alex-rx1ni]

Hack frauds

[@josierice2386]

the dementia is catching up to him

[@famowx]

"Other actors from the series are in the Next Generation right?" "A couple..." says Mike as he pulls out the piece of paper lol

[@welcomestranger]

And then proceeds to meticulously describe the plot points of the TNG episode they appeared in while Jay sits there.

[@Eamonshort1]

An under rated running thread through RLM content is mike's extensive knowledge of Midwestern Serial killers

[@LinusBitchTits]

Of course, he’s one of them.

[@docbledsoe]

@@LinusBitchTitsPlinkett is in NJ?

[@Ratgibbon]

He's got to keep tabs on the competition, you know.

[@playedout148]

Mike does have a BTK vibe.

[@fartquaviasdingle7876]

​@@docbledsoeMike is not plinkett, Mike is Mike, plinkett is plinkett

[@nuclearheadache]

That was so nice of Mike to take time to research those TNG appearances for Jay, since Jay is such a huge Star Trek fan

[@ZillaTheTegu]

I actually love Wes's explanation of the demon in New Nightmare. Its not that he was bragging about his movies, its more that the creature (like an ultra fan), became really obsessed with the franchise. The idea that a movie monster got so popular, that it attracted the attention of some otherworldly entity, and as long as they kept making movies, it kept the creature occupied. The movies didnt even have to be good, they just had to be Freddy-ish. The creature wasnt even a demon, but more like an entity so foreign to our world that its more of a force (like gravity or something). A thing that exists outside of time and space, and only interacts within our world on rare occasion. The stories and the character of Freddy, somehow caught this entity, because of how similar they are in essence. Wes says that the entity exists for one purpose, the destruction of innocence. Well thats pretty much what Freddy does, preying on children. But once they stopped making the movies, the creature wanted to continue them in the only way it knew how in this world, to emulate Freddy. It got used to being Freddy from the movies, so it took on that form. To us Freddy is just a character in a story, but to it Freddy was a thing it resonated with itself. That was my understanding of it anyway. Its hard to describe, but imagine yourself, wandering the universe for eons. Wandering until you find your soul mate. But that soulmate isnt a person, but a poem. This poem encapsulates you almost perfectly. And then comes another poem, and then another. Soon you start to forget who you were, and cant tell the difference between yourself and the poems. Then the poems stop. Thats what is happening to this entity. It then starts to become the poem, not in word form but in real a manifestation of what the poem was about. The other part of that movie that I really liked, is how this entity still followed some of the "rules" of dreams before it fully manifested. Specifically with how the little boys stuffed dino was protecting him, successfully, because of the boys belief in his cherished toy. That was a nice touch.

[@DavidADII]

Thats really cool; where did he write/talk about this?

[@pandaloon6083]

@ZillaTheTegu: Excellent explication. You expressed it better than I could. Your analysis also explains why Freddy the demon is afraid of fire: the demon is becoming Freddy and so it is carrying Freddy's memories and fears of being burned. All that said, I agree with the RLM fellas that ending was poor. The shifted from dark, mysterious, and sinister, to something slightly above camp. Mike's idea was a good one. Have Heather be called Nancy, have her in the Elm Street house, but then somehow (I don't know how) have her lure Freddy out into the real world where she and a similarly tormented Robert England could defeat him (again, I don't know how). I would think their weapon would have to be some equal and opposite emotion/force that give the demon Freddy his power. But, again, I don't have the imagination for that. New Nightmare was the Proto-Scream. New Nightmare was really close to being both something new and familiar. Had the ending been better, more serious, then movie could have a been a classic rather than what it is now: the best of the sequels and the start of a new horror genre.

[@ZillaTheTegu]

@@DavidADII Its in the movie itself. They show a partial clip of it at 41:30, but its not the whole clip, so its leaving out a lot of information. And Mike is basically completely missing the point of whats being said.

[@ZillaTheTegu]

@@pandaloon6083 Yes, because the people think of the entity as a demon in Freddys clothes, so that ind of makes it a demon using Freddys form. Which makes it vulnerable to all the things that make Freddy vulnerable. IE Freddy doesnt like fire, so the demon adopts that fear. They dont even kill the entity at the end of the movie, what they kill is this entity's concept of what it is to exist as Freddy in our world. It probably still exists somewhere out there, between the spaces of reality and fiction, waiting for a new story to capture it. But yea the ending could have been better. For all the buildup for what this creature was, it seemed a little to easy to kill. A better confrontation would be nice, and maybe something more like the original but even more meta. In the original movie Nancy defeats Freddy by not being afraid of him, which is where he gets his power. So maybe in New Nightmare, before the entity fully manifests, the whole cast of the original movie goes on live tv, and totaly run the mystique and intrest in the Freddy franchise. Have England come out in full makeup, and then tare it off, showing that hes just an actor. Show how they did all the special effects. Show the tedius paperwork they had to do to create the movie. All of which would disenfranchise the audience, make them board and go like, "Aww Freddy is lame now" which in turn, would take away the entity/demon/Freddy's power. Might not work, but its an idea at least.

[@Mike28625]

Clive Barker wrote about this in Candyman. Ghosts can live as ghosts only if living brains remember them. They can feed on compatible mental energy from people around them. Candyman hold his community hostage. If they fear him and maintain his legend, he feeds and is content. If they begin to forget him, he gets hungry and he's forced to make them remember before his power to do so fades.

[@wilnich592]

I know Jay is an officionado for creepy perverted obscure Italian films, but it's nice to know that he also has a healthy knowledge of creepy perverted obscure Japanese films too. Mister Worldwide over here!

[@Karanagi]

The chiptune music used is from the "A Nightmare on Elm Street" NES game. The composer is David Wise who also did the music for Donkey Kong Country, Battletoads and Wizards and Warriors.

[@Larkarran]

thank you! I knew it sounded familiar. Stuck in my head from that ancient AVGN video

[@lostielizzie]

Thanks a mil, wanted to know where it was from.

[@mofo888]

@@Larkarran Thank you!

[@blueonblack83]

thanks

[@quarterburnt]

That's why it sounds so good. David Wise is an amazing composer.

[@skelehase]

Mentioning Tetsuo is one thing. Mentioning Tetsuo and Milf Manor in one episode is unbelievable.

[@aaronshouting588]

The beauty of RLM!

[@DireAxis]

Almost a hat trick

[@sednoid]

to be fair they're both really disturbing.

[@Jeffmetal42]

​@@sednoid yea, but only one is considered art and worth watching. 🤣

[@RuneOfRivendell]

@@Jeffmetal42 milf manor, right?

[@YeahSureLetsGoSeeYamcha]

Thank god Mike got to shoe horn in an entire TNG segment

[@lisah-p8474]

Did Jay lose a bet?

[@IVthHorseman]

That entire interlude made me realize what my friends go through having a conversation with me. Maybe time for some soul-searching.

[@wraith1977]

Troi's potential mother-in-law from S1 is at 1:01:17!

[@Belgand]

Yet no mention of Robert Englund's guest spot on Babylon 5.

[@killergoose7643]

There was a while after the soul-crushing disaster Picard Season 2 that he didn't really make any star trek references. It's good to see him back to his old self again.

[@Vitorage1981]

The Freddy impressions go from spot on to sounding like doc brown from back to the future lol

[@Dream0Asylum]

Robert Englund was on the short-list to play Data. Bob and Brent actually were on the same short-lists for character-actor parts all through the '80s.

[@lutherheggs451]

He is also the reason the Freddy makeup got stupider and stupider. It wasn't that the studio was lazy or cheap it was Robert Englund didn't want to spend hours in a makeup chair and just wanted them to have some appliances they could slap on his face and call it a day.

[@Dream0Asylum]

@@lutherheggs451 [it was Robert Englund didn't want to spend hours in a makeup chair ...] Actually the make-up was destroying his skin and the solvents used to remove it were even more harmful than the adhesives used to apply it. (He once ripped all the appliances off WITHOUT the solvents because it was going to hurt less). Anybody can do it once, but Bob developed an allergy after a decade of daily applications and refused to do any more films if they couldn't stop using such a harsh process that was literally destroying his skin. Micheal Dorn had the same thing happen to him with the Worf makeup, and he too demanded it be changed or he would quit that part. Much like the Freddy make-up it'd be changed to as few pieces as possible with limited adhesive to skin contact. Everybody thinks film Fx makeup is just a long day in a chair and claustrophobia, but prolonged use and uncountable applications can have a real impact on a person's health and actors have a right to prioritize their health over an Fx team's convenience.

[@thehaprust6312]

@@Dream0Asylum I've heard it said that Clancy Brown had the same problem with prosthetics for The Highlander.

[@tydeusson]

Similar allergy issues with John Rhyse-Davies during LOTR production.

[@itsd0nk]

@@Dream0Asylum It’s crazy to think about how little we knew or gave a fuck about the health implications of all kinds of chemicals before the 2010’s rolled around. The 80’s and 90’s were the peak of people just being flagrantly poisoned by cosmetic and food ingredients.

[@Mister_Clean]

Mike's Freddy impersonations are always on point

[@mrredherring2900]

swol AF

[@aaronlockley9207]

​@@mrredherring29007mj

[@rocketforthree4479]

It's almost the same as his George Romero impression.

[@jordanbisasky4586]

I also like his Roger Corman impersonations

[@headshot217]

Yeah they are spot on lol

[@mattropeydope8985]

I had assumed Freddie could only stay in springwood because that was the limit of his fear, like the town knew about him, but outside of the town, no one feared him.

[@Belgand]

It's weird to make it geographic, though. The general premise should be that he's restricted to the dreams of people who know the legend. Make him more of a memetic demon. Which then could be tied in to New Nightmare really well since the films have made the "real" Freddy so well known that now his reach has extended even further. He's not just placated by the films, they were increasing his power. Now he's unhappy that he might start to fade away since his existence is tied to telling the story and being afraid of him That's also how you get the further fourth wall breaking ending where they talk about how they've banished him for now, but for anyone who has ever seen one of the films or remembers him, he can always still come back... in their nightmares! Cut to credits.

[@SumDumGy]

*Freddy

[@spockjones1521]

A friend of mine back in the 80's never let me forget his shining moment in the middle of a crowded theater when Amanda Krueger said "bastard son of a hundred maniacs", he yelled "Just one!" and everyone laughed. I swear he told me that story a dozen times and each time it was like the first. To him, anyway.

[@MatsuriShan]

Jacob "vomits" the souls that Freddy fed him in the womb. That's why Amanda says "Now, Jacob, unleash the power he has given you". Still doesn't make a lot of sense but there's a connection there, I guess, lol

[@rottendogproductions5286]

Yes, and i assumed the "vomit" was actually an umbilical cord, since thats how jacob absorbed the souls. He delivered them back in the same way.

[@lisah-p8474]

Just follow up the explanation with our RLM beloved line, "For some reason."

[@ByronCMiller]

The full breakdown is I understand it. Freddy finds a loophole to be reborn through the dreams of Alice’s baby, Jacob. He does his kills, feeds the souls to Jacob with the goal of making Jacob a monster like him and a vessel for him to continue doing his dream murders, and reaching the teens beyond the “Elm Street children”. His plan is working until ghost Amanda gives him the “you have the power” speech, at which point he pukes those souls out into Freddy. Without the Jacob filter, Freddy is too weak to actually handle these souls on his own. They tear through him like the souls in part 4 did, reducing him to a weakened little thing. Basically reversing whatever weird loophole he found to be reborn. That’s a whole lot of ridiculous but I think that’s basically it.

[@TheAdmirableAdmiral]

This is correct... Freddy was stuffing the three souls into Jacob to corrupt him but he used the souls against Freddy to rip him apart or some shit... it still doesn;t make sense but I get what they were going for...

[@MayhemMendes]

It’s telling how Jay puts his beer behind the ‘Freddy’s Greatest Hits’ album on the table, and Mike has two bottles right in front of it. I love that

[@dogshake]

Duality of man

[@sjoerddondersteen1337]

Speaking of that cult classic, a Tetsuo: The Iron Man re:View would be neat.

[@mdihero]

As far as I know they've never reviewed a foreign language film.

[@okramoffacebook1381]

That is a different kind of cinema

[@219SilverChoc]

idk if any of them have had much experience with Tetsuo or the rest of Tsukamotos filmography? Would love it if they did though as it's one of my favourite films by one one of my favourite directors, currently been trying to seek out Kei Fujiwara's and Shozin Fukui's films atm!

[@v1deo.hunter.d317]

@@219SilverChoc Jay's probably seen a lot of those

[@joseserrano7961]

​@@mdihero I am pretty sure they reviewed a Spanish film. Mad Circus, by Alex de la Iglesia. Let me check.

[@DarinRWagner]

The black doctor lady WAS on Star Trek TNG. She played an Admiral who approves the tachyon blockade at the Klingon/Romulan border.

[@kuroi_iruka]

"How do you know these things", Mike says to Jay before proceeding to recite the entire Star Trek wiki from memory

[@TeatroGrotesco]

IDK if Freddy Goes to Hollywood is such a great idea or if Mike's Freddy line delivery is just so perfect.

[@capsjukebox]

That Freddy in Hollywood premise could work if he came after hacks trying to make an elevated horror A24 style reboot

[@patrickflanagan3762]

​@capsjukebox OMG Freddy eviscerating the Elevated Horror fad would be amazing.

[@KingOfMadCows]

The doctor in New Nightmare was on Star Trek. She was Admiral Shanthi, who authorizes Picard's plan to prove the Romulans were secretly helping the Duras in the Klingon Civil War.

[@Voreten]

Yeah I remember her specifically from Star Trek LMAO Mike you failed us.

[@Spacejack-xx2yp]

Mike's Freddy is fundamentally indistinguishable from his regular movie executive voice

[@jakesanders269]

Fun fact Robert Englund did in fact appear in another popular Sci-fi series. He appeared in a episode of Babylon 5 called "Grey 17 is missing" He plays a cult leader named Jeremiah.

[@Flatbees]

I just watched Scream 1 and 2 with the director commentary tracks and a possibly related incident happens in the Scream movies. On the commentary track for Scream 2 about 1:11:30 in, Wes talks about how the first assistant director would like to take head shots of people and paste them over pictures on the sets and you can see some of them throughout the movie. Not exactly the same as just industry production photos of actors, but a funny enough coincidence.

[@Dogy0909]

Mike calling that kid ugly was such a highlight. So mean of him but he kept going on about it lol

[@KevinBaird]

I mean lets be real, he was ugly

[@bennruda11]

Careful, the raspberries were first hit 😆

[@edgedrick936]

The scariest thing about this video is that I can't tell if that Springwood poster was actually real or just a joke

[@LunarShimmer]

Same lmao

[@DeliciousCornbread]

Oh thank God I'm not the only one lol. I Googled it and didnt see anything.

[@itsd0nk]

Mike’s PS skills are insanely on point. So are Jay’s at this point, so it could’ve been him but I got strong Mike vibes from how perfect that was.

[@kaptainKrill]

The only tell is that the Freddy image is ripped straight off of the 2010 film poster. But no one saw that movie, and we’re all collectively saying it never happened, so I can understand why it didn’t register.

[@KasumiKenshirou]

@@kaptainKrill Disney slapped a photo of an Emperor Palpatine ACTION FIGURE onto one of their Star Wars posters. A bad looking and / or inaccurate poster isn't necessarily fake.

[@RhymeswithSpecialNeeds]

We need an entire vid of Mike coming up with Freddy puns and gimmicks for sequels

[@jakeschutz6342]

Craig Wasson (Dr. Neil Gordon from Nightmare 3) was also in a classic O'Brian must Suffer episode of DS9. The one where if Inner Light was actually done as a horrible torture nightmare where you live in a prison hell hole for 20 years but actually only like an hour has passed...

[@ericbaker8781]

Was he O’Brien’s cell mate? Or was he another character?

[@jakeschutz6342]

@@ericbaker8781 Yeah, he was his cell mate. O'Brien basically was charged and imprisoned on a planet where they implant memories of prison in you (so you think you are there 20 years when in reality 2 hrs passed). It was a really good performance by Wasson even under the alien make-up and a pretty good episode overall I would recommend it.

[@DevonAlexanderHess]

13:52 Mike really dropped the balling missing the "Two FREDs are better than one" pun.

[@livecoilarchive1458]

Tetsuo: The Iron Man is actually a great experimental film with really cool cinematography and kickass music. Highly recommend.

[@eyeamstrongest]

i know jay is the type but i never thought id see it get a (relatively) big western shoutout

[@altohippiegabber]

The color sequel Tetsuo II : Body Hammer is also highly recommended!

[@theowlsarenotwhattheyseem69]

love it!!! Body Hammer is good too!

[@TrillgataQ]

Not suprised Jay knows Tsukamoto

[@hitmanmonaghan6633]

I definitely want to see it

[@MonsieurHerrMusic]

Wanted to shoutout Les Bohem (screenwriter for Elm Street 5) who's actually super super cool and not a hack. Played bass with Sparks in the 80s and is half of Gleaming Spires, a really great and under-known new wave band. Guy's a legend

[@infectedgoat7775]

Yes thank you! I listend to Gleaming Spires the other day and I said hey that looks like Les Bohem from Nightmare 5! It just randomly popped in my head and I looked it up and sure enough! On a side note, I’m still trying to get girls through hypnotism.

[@beector2010]

I love how off the rails this series gets.

[@RettMikhal]

Yeah, and Nightmare on Elm street gets pretty weird, too.

[@madmarx7543]

It's absolutely WILD how bad Freddy's Dead looks when you realise Rachel Talalay would go on to direct some of the most gorgeous episodes of Doctor Who ever. She really had a glow up.

[@CaptainBadNews]

I love the teacher chanting "son of a hundred maniacs!" along with the class lol.

[@davidstenow5055]

I’m actually shocked someone saw MILF Island from 30 Rock and made it an actual show

[@crakhaed]

Holy fucking shit I totally forgot about that. You're a hundred percent right

[@ShahbazBokhari]

What an absolute +lad+.

[@sdgc8667]

Get. Off. Milf. Island.

[@MichaelCharles2011]

This is exactly what I said when I first saw an ad for Milf Manor.

[@raspberryp.i.1854]

The intro transition of Freddys flatulence into the squelchy synth of the re:view theme was sublime

[@jacobevans1970]

Is that what that is? It's an absolute banger

[@brandonspain12345]

And that fart

[@MichaelAarons1701]

Because Mike’s not the only shameless Trekkie here, I thought I’d throw in some people he missed: Nan Martin who plays Freddy’s mom in _Dream Warriors_ was Wyatt’s mother in _TNG: “Haven”._ Tracy Middendorff who plays the babysitter in _New Nightmare_ was one of the actresses to play Dukat’s daughter on DS9. Fran Bennett, the doctor lady from the same movie, *was* on Trek playing Vice Adm. Shanthi in _TNG: “Redemption II”._ Thomas Dekker who was Jesse in the remake was one of Picard’s children in _Generations_ as well as one of the children in Janeway’s holoprograms on Voyager. Clancy Brown from the same film was Zobral in _ENT: “Desert Crossing”._ I’m sure there’s others but why spoil Mike’s fun when he realizes all he missed so far?

[@DonnieBrook69]

Clancy Brown nailed that role (kinda goes without saying, he's Clancy Brown, but still).

[@vistavizion]

Just in case no one has mentioned it yet, the photo on the wall of the unidentified male is a publicity photo of actor James Dean. I looked up the original picture and it's an exact match.

[@bryangarcia5599]

Heather Langenkamp herself played Starfleet Security Officer Moto in the 2013 film _Star Trek Into Darkness_ (on which her husband was the makeup department head), although you'd never know it just by looking at the character, due to the massive, watermelon-like alien head prosthetic she's got on. I realise this may have been mentioned during the _Half in the Bag_ episode on the film, but I'll never know for sure, as beardless Rich Evans scares the absolute _CHRIST_ out of me, so I cannot possibly watch it. *Edit:* 21:50 God _damn_ it, Jay!

[@gspendlove]

They ruined my joke with that, dammit!

[@TheBifalco]

Honestly a Nightmare on Elm Street/ Milf Manor crossover sounds undeniably amazing.

[@sonyslyer9946]

Welcome back boys, this time we will see the gang get into the dream world and actually review the movies with Freddy

[@kelss.5098]

Nice Earthbound avatar.

[@thesultrystrangerdanger6824]

Omfg bro that's so meta omfg rofmlahgdgbv

[@sebastianlepper1431]

When you said “the gang” IASIP suddenly popped into my mind, and now I want a spin-off of the gang facing off against Freddy Krueger.

[@taucetialpha]

Now that you guys have covered Michael Myers, Jason, and Freddy... here's hoping for a retrospective on my favorites: The Clive Barker Trilogy of Hellraiser, Nightbreed, and Lord of Illusions

[@ahuras238]

I'd love to see Lord of illusions redone but better. The concept is great.

[@sandwurm928]

mike: "who tapes a picture to the back of their basement door??? nobody!!!" me: sitting in my basement, staring at the back of my door. where i have a picture taped up of rich evans.

[@aaronreiss8250]

Been waiting for this. I could watch 60 minutes of Mike coming up with new one liners in his Freddy voice.

[@Mememan420_69]

I love when Mike adds in some Star Trek facts

[@WordUnheard]

And the, "Fuck. This again." slouch that takes over Jay's body. I feel his pain. I had a friend who would work in some sort of I Love Lucy reference into nearly every conversation I'd have with him. He obviously did the same to his brother, because he told me that his brother finally snapped and yelled, "Could one fucking thing that happen in my life that doesn't have anything to do with with that fucking show?" That stopped him for a while. Then he started again, adding The Golden Girls and Maude into the equation. This time, I had to be the one to tell him to snap the fuck out of it, and deal with reality. He became a MAGA, god fearing, far-right, not alright shell of his former self, and that was the last straw.

[@tylerarmentrout2775]

“There’s a sexual quality to him” - Jay Bauman on the character Freddy Kruger

[@bennijohnson942]

Mike's Freddy impressions have me in tears !!

[@jonathanw1019]

The boy also appears briefly in Addams Family. He's Tully's kid. Tetsuo is one of the most inventive and insane movies I've ever seen. My local Blockbuster had it. Great stuff. Something that's not mentioned about the whole early/mid 80s epidemic of m***sting at elementary schools and daycares was that most of the accusations were later determined to be in fact fake. Ended up it was a social contagion brought on by therapists and psychiatrists who would, sometimes unknowingly, implant false/misleading memories into the kids during therapy sessions and convince them of all sorts of insane things. It coincided at the same time with the whole "Satanist outbreak at elementary schools" phenomenon. The movie was being made in '84, which is almost at the height of the panic. The truth did't come out until almost the 90s.

[@kevinkampen8661]

Epidemic of what?

[@jonathanw1019]

@@kevinkampen8661 an epidemic of young preschool and daycare kids, after meetings with therapists pushing the idea, falsely accusing their teachers of molesting them, abusing them and exposing them to satanic imagery. Look up the Satanic Panic and the McMarten preschool trial. All of that was going on smack in the middle of the production of the early Nightmare movies.

[@aaronhuskyman4509]

@@kevinkampen8661 moe less sting

[@kevinkampen8661]

@@aaronhuskyman4509 Thank you

[@allendulles2481]

That's not true. Way to cover for the bad guys. Jeez, you are gullible!

[@GrandChessboard]

I love that they use the music from the Nightmare on Elm Street NES game.

[@crakhaed]

Thanks for that! I was wondering what the music was they were using.

[@VexedSpartan117]

I could listen to Mike do a Freddy impression all day

[@tobiasaibot1317]

I don't remember where I heard about this channel, but I wish I could thank them. For years, this channel has been one of 3 channels that I will drop what I'm doing to watch the new video

[@CatLives9]

NOT having a Demon Freddy vs. Robert Englund scene in "New Nightmare" was a massive FAIL imo

[@johnwright8195]

Thank you, RLM, for making my day just a bit better. Been a fan since 2013. You guys are quality.

[@Discuiet]

At 1:20, I noticed Jay clearly said "Fart Five" and I immediately checked the end of the video to confirm that he edited the video because anyone else would have spent ten minutes making fun of him for that humiliating blunder

[@TOFTS77]

They missed a major plot point in the 5th film. Freddy was using the child's dreams to manifest but also to store the souls he was capturing. Freddy was too weak to contain the souls. Jacob "throws up" or channels the souls he had been holding onto into Freddy and they drag him to his mother so she can absorb Freddy and carry him to the afterlife.

[@JurassicReptile]

why was Freddy too weak to contain the souls? He can kill the kids can't he? I thought he wanted to make Jacob like himself

[@TOFTS77]

@@JurassicReptile Freddy was almost destroyed in the previous film. He only clung to existence because he was able to escape into the dreams of a unborn baby. He told Jacob he wanted to make him like him which could also be that he planned to possess Jacob when he was born and take over similar to Night on Elm Street 2.

[@KHMaggot67]

Mike’s tactic is whenever he wants a cheap laugh from Jay: just mention ugly children or the elderly. I’m all for it cuz it makes me laugh too 😂

[@Adam-rz4wr]

For a moment I thought that remaining 50 minutes of this video will be Mike going through the plot of all of the Star Trek episodes that The Nightmare on Elm Street actors appeared in

[@anthonyhudak9363]

The original Freddy's Dead script from Peter Jackson sounded way more interesting. In that Freddy is severely depowered and kids would actually go into their dreams to beat him and bully him and he couldn't fight back at first but at some point he does end up killing one of the kids and slowly gets his power back but nah we really want three sperm demons swimming towards the camera

[@FunkyGhost37]

It also would've been a good meta angle like New Nightmare tried to do.

[@brandonspain12345]

There was also another script that had the Jon Doe character written to be an older Jacob Johnson trying to leave Springwood after a 30-year old Alice died from Freddy in front of him and is overly paranoid Freddy was getting him again. And Freddy becomes so powerful after taking Alice's power, he literally absorbs the town of Springwood like a tornado and into his chest, making the town a desert wasteland, and altering map locations. And Springwood only exists in Freddy's world as a mutant/giant bug filled city. Instead of a youth center, Jacob is discovered by foster parents who take him in with other troubled teens. But we learn Freddy can't get Jacob because he's being guarded by "The Dream Police" three cops in leather uniforms who are actually three members of The Dream Warrior. Tarryn the Blade Cop, Joey the Sound Cop, and Kincaid the Muscle Cop. And the way the kill Freddy is finding what he's afraid of, so Jacob, his new love interest and friends go into Freddy's house in the Dreamworld and find his journals and files dedicated to his father, Mr. Underwood. Freddy then kills Jacob who promises him he'll come back, and the love interest uses her newfound powers to transform herself into Mr. Underwood and corners the now pleading terrified Freddy, and punches his gut open, freeing all the souls out while the house after 6 movies begins to be set on fire and collapses itself, (like the ending of Poltergeist.) Jacob becomes a member of the Dream Police and the town Springwood now exists as a beautiful town for good dreams and freed souls now live there where Jacob's love interest visits and ends in a Terminator 2 style way where it's all happy and peaceful, ending the series in a more sentimental way.

[@1chiTheKiller]

Mike's Freddie impression is just wonderful. Never get tired of that.

[@_danl]

I was listening to the audio commentary for Scream 2. About an hour and ten minutes Wes Craven mentions his 1st Assistant Director, Nicholas Mastandrea, along with the “prop people” hang up headshots of people in the background. Nick, as Wes calls him, has worked on all of the Scream films at least up to the point of recording this particular commentary. So I looked into Nicks credits and the only Nightmare credit he has is New Nightmare🤷‍♂️

[@Scribbled_Death]

I saw the Dream Child as one of my first Elmstreet films... the deaths in this one creeped me out so much but i wanted to see more of this Freddy character Drop Dead Fred is an odd instalment to this series.

[@juniorjames7076]

I remember being done with the franchise by Part 4, and I barely remember the plot of part 4. It was more like a bad fantasy action movie than horror, and no wonder, Renny Harlin was the director. This might have been the first time I was bored enough to walk out of a movie. By the age of 16, I felt I'd rather spend a Saturday afternoon in the mall bookstore than sitting in front of a shitty movie.

[@jacobscarberry4799]

@Scribbled_Death than wait until u play the video game spin-off, Dead Head Fred. Fun fact: Drop Dead Fred was distributed by New Line here in the states

[@thatguythatdoesstuff5899]

Freddie got fingered is arguably an even weirder addition to the series.

[@bravelilttletoaster]

So is Freddy Got Fingered

[@redman9493]

@@bravelilttletoaster I thought that was the origin story. Before Freddy started tormenting kids, he tormented his family with sheer stupidity and sausages.

[@arsheeza]

Yoo, so glad to see the inclusion of Tetsuo The Ironman. Love that movie so much! . . . . . . Edit: Also, I never expected that there is a MILF Manor inclusion as well. How ironic that both Tetsuo and MILF Manor mentioned in this episode lol.

[@BovineDesigns]

I love that Mike's ideas for New Nightmare is essentially to go full Gremlins 2.

[@davidvaughnstraughn]

I love how every time Mike does RLM Re:View, it turns into a mini-Star Trek TNG retrospective

[@ayrahn7893]

Only a minute in and Jay’s already flexing his art house muscles, lol

[@Horrormaster13]

A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984), Dream Warriors (1987), Wes Craven's New Nightmare (1994) are my favorites in this Franchise. They make a pretty great Trilogy in my opinion.

[@hrwise89]

Those 3 are probably the best "movies."

[@LO-zs3db]

Yeah I generally agree those are the BEST ones. I’m gonna have to revisit two after these videos coz I’ve know about the gay connotation to the film for a long time but I haven’t seen it for maybe five or six years. Four and five are the ones I’ve seen the least but I remember four being kinda entertaining. Freddy’s Dead is TERRIBLE but I have a soft spot for it coz it’s the first Elm Street film I saw (I was too scared to watch the early ones coz I heard they got less scary as they went on). Freddy vs Jason is very silly and maybe a decade too late but it’s the last proper appearance of Robert Englund in the role and as someone who grew up OBSESSED with the lead characters of both franchises I loved it as a kid. The remake shot itself in the foot a bit because I didn’t hate the premise that Freddy was a wrongly accused vengeful spirit initially but then they throw that away and it became very boring and also it’s maybe one of the most generic and visually unimaginative remakes I’ve seen which is a problem when you’re making an instalment in a franchise known for its creativity. Anyway rant over lol :)

[@headshot217]

I like 1 2 and 3 as a trilogy never liked new nightmare as much because it wasn't a Freddy movie necessarily

[@infernalproductions]

Jay referencing Tetsuo: The Iron Man brings a smile to my face

[@CosmicWaltz7]

Mike's Freddy impression improved the further he got through that beer.

[@MajorGrin]

43:47 she WAS on star trek as Admiral Shanti in the TNG episode Redemption part II

[@jeanfcp]

Tetsuo is brilliant and by far the best film with Iron Man in the title. I didn't care for the sequel but aside from that, Tsukamoto (the director) had a really great run in the 90s and early 00s.

[@nikusenpuki3631]

He's still going strong. I thought Killing was a mixed bag, but he did a wonderfully grotesque adaptation of Fires on the plain and Kotoko may be one of his more unusual movies. I wonder what he's up to next.

[@jeanfcp]

@@nikusenpuki3631 That's nice to hear, I had kind of given up on him a while ago, I thought he had lost his touch, but I'll check those out.

[@nikusenpuki3631]

@@jeanfcp I think his work suffered greatly when he switched to digital video. He had such a thing for film grain, contrast and colour schemes. With a clean image his work lost a lot of its otherworldliness. Ironically that's what worked for me in Fires on the plain, because the reality of the war is shown in such a clean, banal, documentary-esque way that it becomes kind of unsettling.

[@Dethmaster64]

Glad to see Mike and Jay debunk the Freddy headshot mystery

[@bloozbyblueballs5908]

New Nightmare actually made me start tucking my blanket under my feet as a kid, because of the scene where the blanket becomes a tunnel into Freddy's lair.

[@alexanderfreeman3406]

I started tucking the blanket under my feet because it’s comfy as heck.

[@victoryvideo]

It always seemed to me like the ending of New Nightmare, in which Freddy gets pushed into the oven, was an echo of Hansel and Gretel -- a parallel I always loved. It's about trapping evil in stories, and continuing that tradition, not about killing a demon. Anyway, great discussion.

[@LockeD333]

I always thought the premise of New Nightmare (never saw it except in clips) was that the demon was working through Craven to make the character of Freddy Kreuger into an icon. That's a much better depiction of a creator being consumed by his own product than the idea that he was nobly producing Nightmare movies to hold the demon at bay

[@brandonspain12345]

From what I got in the movie was that Wes mentioned that this "entity" had jumped into many stories and took many forms, but he mentioned he was Freddy in the movies until Freddy's Dead, he escaped out of the movies and into our world. So... if it was in the movies themselves as Freddy, then where was it all this time? It's not like there were two Freddys otherwise the movie Freddy would've known there was a copycat. I think what Wes was trying to say that Freddy in New Nightmare was always the same Freddy from the other movies. And began to take form when Fred Krueger was born, the demon was reborn or reincarnated as a new evil human being. (Hell, one of the maniacs that raped Amanda looked exactly like Freddy. So maybe that maniac was the demon searching for a new identity and Amanda was locked up and he changes plans and gets Amanda. Then after Freddy's Dead, he was in purgatory, either in Hell or a void between other worlds and discovers ours, and was embraced that people adore Freddy with movies and merchandise, and decides to go after his creation, his Dr. Frankenstein, Wes Craven for doing this.

[@Arrowdodger]

Jay is such a goddamn savant sometimes about knowing an actor or director or composer for movies, it's impressive.

[@sdgc8667]

It's probably easy to remember things when your job is to make youtube videos....

[@forallthestupidshit3550]

I imagine imdb helps quite a bit too

[@Bale4Bond]

New Nightmare is an overlooked gem

[@PanterAmetal100]

It's the best in the series along with the Dream Warriors, which is also the best sort-of X-Men movie before the X-Men movies.

[@TheLonelyGoomba]

I don't really get the praise tbh. I watched through the entire series, I was so hyped for New Nightmare due to the reputation. And eh? It's ok. Felt like it thought it was more clever than it was. So ignoring the meta aspect of it, you have a really crappy looking Freddy and just a pretty plodding unexciting film with not many exciting scenes. The entire film seems to hinge on the meta aspect but it's one note. Wish I liked it more than I did.

[@PanterAmetal100]

@@TheLonelyGoomba Good points

[@voltinator]

@@TheLonelyGoomba That movie was basically Wes Craven announcing to the world that he was embarrassed by Happy Meal Freddy.

[@medes5597]

​@@TheLonelyGoomba freddy looks like that on purpose. He's supposed to look like a cheap effect from a movie that's been placed into the real world, outside of the context of the movie he was designed for, so all the flaws that would be hidden by the movie are apparent. So while you're not wrong, it's supposed to feed into the concept of the film.

[@jimmie_collins]

Man, I like your writing room scene of Freddy. That was funny as hell.

[@miked4988]

The doctor in Wes Cravens New Nightmare was actually in a Star Trek: The Next Generation episode. The actress was Fran Bennett (RIP) and she was in the episode Redemption Part II as Fleet Admiral Shanthi. They discuss setting up the Romulan blockade at the beginning. Such a fantastic actress!

[@garyblee3394]

Mike, the sceptical doctor is played by Fran Bennett. Look to Redemption Part 2, she played Admiral Shanthi who authorised Captain Picards plan to create a tachyon detection net to detect the Romulans supplying weapons to House Duras.

[@Wangkerful]

Jay mentioning tetsuo the iron is so cool

[@OnionLancer]

Robert Englund wasn't in Star Trek, but he was in an episode of Macgyver as a scientist.

[@LakeEarth]

43:50 She was, in fact, an Admiral in an episode of TNG.

[@evanmarschand9930]

Mike never passes up a moment to connect things to Star Trek and give a detailed rundown of multiple episodes, all while Jay nods his head and attempts to appear interested.

[@planmakingmammals]

Freddy doesn't mean a specific street named Elm Street with his line "Every town has an Elm Sreet". He means what you suggest Jay - that every town has a picket fence-suburb ready to be ravaged and "destroyed".

[@brandonspain12345]

Though in Freddy's Dead, they show Freddy can't leave Springwood until he goes into Maggie's head, and the barrier of Springwood shatters. As if the Dreamworld works like the dome from The Simpsons Movie. Later on, Maggie even tells him he can't kill people because it's not in Springwood and Freddy makes the youth center have a Elm street so Freddy can have an excuse to kill people there. But when was that ever a rule? Him not allowed to leave Springwood is stupid and doesn't make sense considering he leaves anyway meaning it had no real relevance anyway. Sure, most of the murders originated on Elm street, but it was never established that couldn't kill you if you weren't in his town. He was never restricted before because people sleep ALL over the world.

[@biddrickbidmen4774]

Has there ever been a Freddy victim that has sleep paralysis? That stuff is a real nightmare.

[@blandbara7981]

They played with the concept in the 2011 remake with micro napping. I actually like the 2011 film a lot for some of the ideas they toyed with.

[@biddrickbidmen4774]

@@blandbara7981 I like the idea of Freddy Krueger meeting a sleep paralysis demon and they fight over a kid. The SP demon is connected to the kid so if the kid dies he dies.

[@blandbara7981]

@@biddrickbidmen4774 OHHHH like a tulpa... *Freddy has his hand grabbed before killing a teen in his sleep, and looks to see a different dream demon* "What is this?!" Get outta here, this kid is mine you bitch!"" - Freddy "I found him first... Old man" - tulpa "Who the hell are you?" - Freddy "Your new nightmare..." - tulpa *The two scream, run, and smash into eachother. Then have a brutal gore fest matrix battle*

[@skotomogilnik6305]

would be too easy for freddy since kid is fucking paralysed lmao

[@alrightsquinky7798]

The pottery-shattering sound montage was the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen. The sound effects guy had one pot breaking recording, and he used the hell out of it.

[@nothingtoseehear5012]

This is the greatest string of Halloween Season content done in March and April that I've ever seen.

[@nothingtoseehear5012]

Sure is!

[@lucasgrezaud6582]

this is just the best. RLM talking about the NOES movies is the best birthday present i ever could’ve received.

[@joshd3192]

Love that you guys are doing this.

[@Deadman1000]

I went to visit my parents and my mom watches MILf Manor and I did the classic Mike, "that lady was on Star Trek!"

[@LunarShimmer]

I collect voice actors and sound effects, like Mike collected that list of Star Trek actor crossovers (which is also extremely cool), and that pottery shattering SFX bit shook my bones. I wish every Freddy movie was full of cartoon running SFX and loud BONKs from big rubber hammers.