Redout 2 REVIEW - The TRUE WipEout & F-Zero successor?

[@ATribeCalledCars]

Hey all. Disclaimer time: I was paid to play Redout 2. I was not, however, coerced into being anything but my usual honest, grumpy, journalistic and cynical self. If you like the sound of Redout 2, you can click this link: sabr.gg/3OeQMMV

[@BlueThunderO7]

I learned this after playing this game, but when the screen go red when you're going downhill, that's what's known as a redout; when the negative g-force forces all the blood from the lower part of the body to the head.

[@ATribeCalledCars]

Interesting, makes sense!

[@BlueThunderO7]

​@@ATribeCalledCarsAnd that's something only jet fighter pilots get to experience too.

[@efxnews4776]

@@BlueThunderO7 Well, you do go supersonic in Redout games, isn't?

[@jamiecurry7240]

this game truly is the definition of intense, ive played 24 hours and still feel at the beginning. it truly is a tough game and i love it.

[@ATribeCalledCars]

Glad you're enjoying it. I keep thinking about it but I was making a tips and tricks video today!

[@cliftongardner4367]

Great review! I've been a fan of WipEout and F-Zero for years and found some enjoyment in Redout 1, but was hesitant to buy Redout 2 with all the shouting over the difficulty, even post-patch. I went ahead and bought it anyway and have been totally addicted! Total newbies will struggle, but it can be done. But if you can handle the medium-hard difficulties in WipEout and F-Zero games, this game shouldn't be too much for you. Too soon to tell but this might be my favorite AG racer of all time (sorry, WipEout HD!)

[@ATribeCalledCars]

Cheers Clifton, much appreciated! As you say, it is tough but things are being adjusted in post-launch patches and it is still a blast. It really grows on you as you actually learn how to handle the speed.

[@BiRaitBec]

it is Three Four Big Things, not Thirty-Four, cause they were 3 founders at the start of the studio. I really like this game, at the start they had some issues with progression but not it is fixed and looks very neat.

[@ATribeCalledCars]

That makes sense, maybe it should be hyphenated for idiots like me! Glad you're enjoying the game.

[@BiRaitBec]

Yeh dnt worry i had your doubts aswell but as an italian i had possibilities to hear them interviewed on their past games and they often explain that hehe

[@ATribeCalledCars]

@@BiRaitBec Good to know, I shall say it right in the next video :)

[@laurentderrien]

Nice of you to review this kind of racing games too, thanks

[@ATribeCalledCars]

Cheers, Laurent. It's always nice to review slightly different racing games!

[@Frigorito3975]

Oh my god SOMEONE remembered Quantum Redshift!! My personal nostalgia drug

[@romiarkan450]

I've been trying out this game and there are a few things I dislike. Mind you, I've played the first game and I think the on-track gameplay is great here. My complaints are all off the track, if there's a word for it. First, the fact that ESA is the only starting ship. Would've liked to be able to pick based on what I prefer, at least in terms of boost strength and duration since boosting is a strongly emphasized skill to master in the beginning of the career mode. The ESA can stay as the happy medium, but I'd like it if there are two more to choose from. One has a slightly stronger boost but slightly worse cooling (it overheats faster), the other has slightly weaker boost but slightly better cooling (it overheats slower). And then, put some kind of skill tree but instead of branching skills it's branching ship models that you can unlock. Second, no livery editor. I can live with using ESA's livery pattern at the beginning, but what if I'd like to change the paintjob from navy-orange to, say, white-red-black? Cosmetics, especially paintjobs, shouldn't be locked behind progression in 2022. Put an in-game currency system, and let us just buy them from the customization menu with the winnings collected throughout the career mode. Third, and I consider this minor, is they haven't realized the full potential of VERTEX's lore. It's a program, meaning creating custom tracks should be possible. Just add a track creator mode and allow us to share our creations. It's going to massively improve the game's lifespan. I mean, just look at games like Trackmania, Assetto Corsa, and Cities: Skylines. Those three have inherently great gameplay despite being rather old, but their respective communities have greatly increased the longevity through customized contents.

[@ATribeCalledCars]

Hey Romi. All valid points that would be cool and may arise in the future. But I guess being a smaller studio means the scope has to be more limited or it would never take off. A track editor would be especially cool - it is also great for longevity in Hot Wheels Unleashed. Although that editor can be a bit clumsy...

[@lordmegatron65]

Fantastic review! I'll definitely be getting this! Absolutely adored the first one! 😊👍

[@ATribeCalledCars]

Cheers, great name. Not that I am a Transformers nerd or anything.

[@lordmegatron65]

@@ATribeCalledCars Thank you 😊

[@wile123456]

Pro tip, use the UE4 unlocker and use the console to change the FOV, games feels much better without the ugly 60 degree FOV

[@jefforious2000]

+50 points for the F-zero reference

[@ATribeCalledCars]

Cheers, Jeff. I like to use my (lack of) wisdom and (somewhat) old age to look back at the games I loved when younger. Although I was a Mega Drive man at heart, I did love the SNES too. Good times.

[@comdrive3865]

holy shit redout 2 is out?>??? I didn't even know redout 2 was coming ! after their redout spinoff i wrote off the series. Loved REdout lightspeed edition though

[@ATribeCalledCars]

Only just, it was the 16th. But I think as a smaller game it has not made waves yet. Hopefully you enjoy the new game!

[@denielalain5701]

Hello! I got it recently, it seems interesting. I played a lot of starwars episode 1 racer, and that game seemed more rich to its environments. In this game i can only see the road that is the same everytime, which i do not realy like compared to starwars episode 1 racer. Also due to that game's speed was depending on cpu speed, it is much faster paced today. There was only one boosting system in that game, which i realy enjoyed to use

[@wilksy2008]

This is my (nearly) entreé into the world of A.G racers. I have a GameCube with F-Zero GX, but never played it. I played wipEout 2048 on Vita several years ago, but didn’t get into it. That was probably… 2018? Now I have a PS5 and Redout 2 was recently released and I’m thinking this looks great, I love speedy arcade games like this (notably, Ridge Racer 7! 😂). Didn’t realise how SHIT I’d be at the *actual* gameplay, even with the “slowest” crafts - those walls and barriers are no joke 😂 And the controls are so close to a sim, it might as well *be* a sim 😂 Despite all this, I can’t resist going back in the hopes of improving and learning even just a *little* bit more of the track I’m playing so the next run-through is a *bit* better 😂 The path to mastery and refined skill is ✨ SLOW ✨ but that sense of progression *cannot* be sniffed at! 😏 👌🏼

[@CrispyGFX]

Game is for sure a blast. Try BallisticNG for a more true Wipeout successor.

[@efxnews4776]

Redout is more on the FZero side than Wipeout, Wipeout is more slow pacing, while Redout is incredibly fast paced.

[@SecretlyStarscream]

@@efxnews4776 Redout doesn't really play like F Zero either. It is its own thing. If you're looking for a game that replicates the feeling of F Zero, there's now Aero GPX.

[@douglasford5957]

I had to buy the digital version of it on ps4pro is it out on a physical copy?

[@ATribeCalledCars]

I am unsure, perhaps not though.

[@FRiESREiS]

anyone knows, if there's a VR version on the horizon?

[@ATribeCalledCars]

I've not been told anything but it wasn't denied either. Would be cool.

[@destroy_television]

Wouldn't doubt it. They did it for the first one. So why not.

[@majorwicket2261]

No but fzero had enemies, it was all crowded and that was more fun than ricing all alone, even on the star wars podracing games there were more enemies, I am yet to see a gameplay with competitors

[@MartinKingdon-gb3mc]

Does it have ray tracing on console

[@ATribeCalledCars]

Unfortunately not.

[@The-Man-On-The-Mountain]

My first AG racing game was Cyberspeedway on the Saturn. When the first Wipeout came out, I got obsessed with that game, along with the 2nd and the 3d. I played F-zero 64 but I never really liked it. Now, with these graphics and all this technology, I find these games absolutely boring, I don't know why.

[@efxnews4776]

Well i don't like, racing games, but i love space combat sims, and well, they say Redout is basically space ship racing, so why not?. I found God while playing Redout...

[@Gothenburg1]

redout franchise is the best antigrave games since wipeout and fzero gx. but for the moment I will stay in the first one I dont really see any improvement in this one. it just seems like a totally different game from first one. not better not inferior but different . first one have content for years of involvement. i didnt even scratched the surface yet

[@Phantomselbst]

Das erste Spiel hat mir auch sehr gut gefallen und genauso gedacht wie du, aber das zweite habe ich mir trotzdem gegönnt. Once you get used to Redout 2's superbly precise controls, you won't want to go back to Redout 1. The controls are what separate the two games. It would be great if you could load the tracks from the first game into the second just to be able to play them with its controls and ships.

[@SoapChill]

Quantum redshit?! I played that shit! I gotally forgot about it 🤣

[@ATribeCalledCars]

Loved that game!

[@ligma427]

Who is here because the game is free on epic games 🤓☝️

[@ATribeCalledCars]

I have to wait until the 13th of June for it to be free on Epic. Maybe just a UK thing?

[@wordenroger6188]

Redout 2 has some improvements like making the vehicles way less slidey, getting rid of the useless powerups and significantly streamlining the upgrades (no more incremental upgrades for four different versions of eight different vehicles). But the campaign for Redout 2 is one of the most bloated things I've ever seen, it's literally about 3X longer than the original and the game is insanely hard on anything other than the first two difficulties out of 6. It's honestly baffling to me that they make an absurdly long career mode PLUS a season pass when literally only 0.1% of players have gotten to the end of the main career mode on PS4/PS5. Also the multiplayer is still as redundant given there's next to no-one playing seeing as it's such a niche title.

[@reika2836]

Average cruise in a zikz

[@ATribeCalledCars]

To be honest, the Zikz is much faster and even more colourful.

[@wleon4068]

The thing is, from what I can make out, you are not actually 'racing' against any other ship, because there are no other ships on the tracks. It seems to be only racing against the clock.

[@custom-r]

Nah, Aero GPX is the TRUE F-Zero successor, considering it's literally much closer to F-Zero than anything else. Redout 2 though I think has potential to be a household name. It's got to be much harder than F-Zero GX.

[@NeverduskX]

Harder than F-Zero GX? It took me years of my life to beat all four cups on Master to unlock the AX cup lol.

[@angelpacheco1608]

@@NeverduskX Yeah F-zero GX is hard as heck, but this is up there though. This game is more difficult then f-zero in some ways: A lot of the tracks are like mute city serial gaps to phantom road tier and they get used for time trial events - and you need to be perfect if you want to get gold. So this game can get really rough if you want all golds.

[@NeverduskX]

@@angelpacheco1608 Do you like the tracks better than Redout 1? I've been watching a lot of gameplay from 2, but the tracks don't seem as wild or unpredictable (though I haven't experienced them myself yet). That might be because 2 focuses a lot more on constant boosting, but the creative track design is what really made me fall in love with the original.

[@angelpacheco1608]

@@NeverduskX I've been playing it for about 8 hours so far. You have to keep in mind the game is still very new, so a lot of the footage currently available tends to be from the early hours of the game - where you race on the easier, beginner level tracks/locations like Mt. Fuji or Cairo. But I have encountered some really tough and cool tracks like the Tartarus Mines (which reminds me a lot of fire field), and I have seen cool tracks from the Mariana trench and Cloud Ocean locations among others. So the tracks definitely ramp up in design as you get to the harder locations.

[@NeverduskX]

​@@angelpacheco1608 Thank you, that's good to know. I was definitely worried about track design, but if it's as good as you say, then I might have to give Redout 2 a fair shot.

[@bleepin]

Sadly, this game, like the first, is basically dead now. There were a ton of issues plaguing the release one of which was a seriously high difficulty for challenges and even some of the tutorials. There was a section of the tutorial that you had to beat to actually unlock multiplayer which side note, is ridiculous. But it was so difficult that players were essentially locked out of multiplayer. The skill ceiling in Redout 2 was high. Very VERY high and it ended up dropping a lot of players, myself included, from the game. For gods sake, the devs themselves had to lower some of the points required to win in the Speed challenges. The game had a lot of promise and it could have been great, but sadly the really high skill ceiling and the over indulgence of over 250+ campaign levels was just too much. If I could get a refund, I would. The game just generally isn't fun and the devs also abandoned it too. Last I checked, the season challenges thing for multiplayer still wasn't made a feature. Doubt it is now with how dead the player base is

[@Ag1mAm]

would say the only downside of the game is the soundtrack. "takeover" is the only real song but also perfect for the game.

[@maegnificant]

What is a "real" song?

[@mrbloby15]

Its a brilliant game

[@grey6546]

Хорошая игра! 👍 в Первую накатал более 100 часов! 😏🔥

[@b.7944]

I wanted to love this but tracks are just pretty, no turns. Probably they wanted people to try to break recors. It is somewhat boring to me.

[@MentalEdge]

Pacer is worthless, in my opinion. It's monstrously unsatisfying to play to me. You didn't mention BallisticNG, which achieves parity with WipEout's physics model and features fantastic tracks.

[@ATribeCalledCars]

I mentioned BNG in my Pacer review, which has sadly disappeared because the website shut down lol. It's definitely a good game.

[@MentalEdge]

@@ATribeCalledCars I gave up on it back when it was Formula Fusion, and I've popped back in a couple times to see if it had become anything. It hasn't. Pacer has no sense of speed whatsoever, even the fastest class makes me yawn (not in the "too easy" sense). Watching the devs prioritize the wrong thing again and again got frustrating real early on. I can't believe the exhaust effect still has a static speed, the ships going 400kph and the exhaust is about as intense as if it were calmly puffing out cigarette smoke. It's such a perfect microcosm of how the whole game makes me feel. BallisticNG suffers from a similar lack of "feeling" when 2280 mode is not enabled (modern wipeout physics, also enables side-shifting), but it at least remains technically challenging to an extreme extent, even when played with it's default PS1 WipEout physics, though personally 2280 mode is the way to go.

[@chilly6470]

Yeah, Pacer is the most boring AG racer I've ever played.

[@kramer1916]

This is not even close to F-Zero GX.

[@ATribeCalledCars]

Definitely overlap, in my humble opinion.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Redout 1-2 play nothing like F-Zero. (GX anyway.)

[@vandorpemichael]

No VR

[@bladerunnervii4835]

F-ZERO GX is still the best and yet to be surpassed. All these games try but fall short everytime.

[@ATribeCalledCars]

It is pretty legendary!

[@yessiechi]

Looks pretty cool, but I'm sad I can't try it cause #imbroke, I only have 1IDR I'm my steam wallet lol

[@ATribeCalledCars]

Sad times, but you could always pretend you're playing when watching other people's videos lol. Money saving tip...

[@ianrichardmcomber8133]

I would love a mode with weapons. Weapons and battles separated Wipeout, so not having that removes it as a true successor for me.

[@ATribeCalledCars]

I can see why some people dislike it, absolutely. Quantum Redshift weapons were fun too. But I did also enjoy F-Zero so maybe that's why I'm not as bothered.

[@zap117]

it doesn't look like it feels fast though

[@ATribeCalledCars]

I think when you're playing, worrying about all the stuff going on, it's fast. Especially when boosting. But perhaps not to watch.

[@ATribeCalledCars]

@@NeoHCgbz Maybe it's my piloting or the lesser upgraded ships in some clips.

[@kikkg2710]

its because its probably some of the lower class ships. i had the same feeling when i started redout 1.but when you get to the faster ships. goddamn

[@destroy_television]

Because his video footage is all the very first races of the campaign where you do have a 'slow' ship. Look up videos of people playing on Nightmare and you'll get an idea for the speed potential of the game. It's nuts.

[@ATribeCalledCars]

@@destroy_television Actually there's quite a lot of footage from arcade, where ships are considerably more upgraded. Such as the final race location.

[@spectr__]

Too bad the running shoes art style makes it hard to look at. It's like they went out of their way to make it look horrendous. I will keep playing BallisticNG, Aero GPX or the original games.

[@ATribeCalledCars]

I guess when you go this bold with the visuals you're not going to please everyone and some areas are prettier than others.

[@mallow2902]

This game just lives in your head rent free doesn't it? I've seen you on several videos about this game posting basically the same thing.

[@destroy_television]

@@mallow2902 If I had to guess.. It's someone that has a personal problem with one of the devs, or possibly a rival developer trying to get people to look at their AG racer instead.

[@larsh613]

honestly this game looks amazing to me while I think ballisticNG looks very awful