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'Wheels Car of the Year'. Where are they now? (1990-1999)

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@mdiciaccio87
@mdiciaccio87 7 ай бұрын
My family had a magna when i was growing up. It was a base '93 model. It spent its whole life with us. I was in it as a whining 5 year old, a grunting L plater, and a pretty reckless P plater. This thing saw it all. And i think out of all the cars i drove (with the exception of the honda legend) it was the most comfortable and reliable. It even survived a drunk mate slamming it into reverse whilst i was travelling at 50kpm! In its last few years it started to suffer little problems (alternator failed once) but it was nearly at 500 000 km when i gave it to a mate to compete in a destruction derby for its glorious valhalla demise 😂
@AdamAus85
@AdamAus85 7 ай бұрын
A lot of my teen years was in the family 94 Magna. Comfy, solid car from what I remember.
@timoleary8751
@timoleary8751 7 ай бұрын
I'm probably thankful my parents TR auto only put out 93kW. I had that thing screaming everywhere as a P plater
@CruiserBrah
@CruiserBrah 7 ай бұрын
Back in the day, when a Falcon or Magan booked in for some work I used to rub my hands together as they always need lots of work.
@JimmyShields-z2h
@JimmyShields-z2h 7 ай бұрын
Definitely VR Commodore even more so over VT, i like VT but extra weight the VR was more efficient car. I been fortunate as i own n still have my 5.0lt V8 ute n V6 Berlina that did 800kms on tank of fuel. Magna was ok car but AU should have won 98 sas it stood test of time n game changer ute version.
@ToranaA9X308
@ToranaA9X308 6 ай бұрын
@@JimmyShields-z2h😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 AU voted as the ugliest Australian car ever produced nearly sent ford broke blew head gaskets GALORE and interiors that fell to pieces rusted underneath AND around the boot lid collapsed ball joints. Total pile of shit.
@jaywon555
@jaywon555 7 ай бұрын
The Magna was built like an absolute tank with how many hand me down Magna's P platers got and the amount of punishment they took to still keep trucking.
@rosscog8797
@rosscog8797 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video boys. I’m in Scotland and our UK cars of the year (from the major publication) were - 1990: Rover 214 1991: Rover Metro 1992: VW Golf 1993: Ford Mondeo 1994: Peugeot 306 1995: VW Polo 1996: Peugeot 406 1997: Renault Megane Scenic 1998: Land Rover Freelander 1999: Rover 75 So in the year when you lads were crowning the Honda NSX 😍 we were awarding a Metro 1.1 😭
@keno88
@keno88 7 ай бұрын
Boy that’s a sad list 😅
@JC-bqq
@JC-bqq 7 ай бұрын
That is very funny 😄
@domdoes1648
@domdoes1648 7 ай бұрын
That's abhorrent! How much were Rover paying that publication? 😂
@eugenewang4650
@eugenewang4650 7 ай бұрын
jesus christ do you pommies ever care about reliability and ownership experience hahahahha every car on that list is beyond demonic to your bank account and mental health
@nate-tz8sx
@nate-tz8sx 7 ай бұрын
That list is disgusting
@Golzie1
@Golzie1 7 ай бұрын
Watching this while sitting in my 430,000km Magna chuckling at the 1996 COTY comments 😂
@ReDriven
@ReDriven 7 ай бұрын
Haha, excellent!
@oiToxic
@oiToxic 7 ай бұрын
My 2004 Ralliart had 300,000ks & was still going strong, & my 2006 VRX had 260,000ks & never missed a beat. Amazing cars. Now have a 2005 Swift as a daily & a 2019 Outlander as a family wagon. Kids 😅
@jacobnightingale801
@jacobnightingale801 7 ай бұрын
Haha same, have a vt commodore with the original ecotec motor on 450,000km, never had timing chains done either and still going 😂
@MrLurchsThings
@MrLurchsThings 7 ай бұрын
Motoring box enters the chat 😂
@AdamAus85
@AdamAus85 7 ай бұрын
@@MrLurchsThings Man what a time he had with that respray, lol.
@steveallen1340
@steveallen1340 7 ай бұрын
LS400 would have to be car of the decade
@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310
@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 7 ай бұрын
Some might say the century
@symontabbenor2186
@symontabbenor2186 7 ай бұрын
Maybe ever. 🙂
@schte1n
@schte1n 7 ай бұрын
Mine still running perfectly with 550k km original engine and transmission 👌
@kingmarz3635
@kingmarz3635 7 ай бұрын
NSX
@steveallen1340
@steveallen1340 7 ай бұрын
@@kingmarz3635 definitely some strong arguments for the NSX, apart from being a fantastic car it also had a significant impact on the entire supercar market forcing substantial improvements from the established players. But Honda now is a shadow of its former self so the NSX wasn’t able to lift the brand long term. The Lexus brand is built off the LS400, if that vehicle failed Lexus would have failed, but it didn’t, it was a spectacular success. That’s why I lean towards the LS400 but can certainly understand others favouring the NSX.
@mrgurulittle7000
@mrgurulittle7000 7 ай бұрын
Magna was a great car. It was super popular here in Japan as an executive car and it helped Mitsubishi Motors come out of the slump following the bubble burst of the 90s.
@RusteeUte
@RusteeUte 7 ай бұрын
Liquid hot Magma......😂
@mrgurulittle7000
@mrgurulittle7000 7 ай бұрын
@@RusteeUte😂 Damn autocorrect.
@baffourohene-kena4962
@baffourohene-kena4962 7 ай бұрын
Wet Wet Wet's song Love is all around was for the movie: Four Weddings and a Funeral
@JC-bqq
@JC-bqq 7 ай бұрын
As a 52yr old Australian, I really loved this episode, thank you for your outstanding work gentlemen...👍
@mattthambirajahpt286
@mattthambirajahpt286 6 ай бұрын
The past era of Australia is very special. Not just cars but life in general
@biastv1234
@biastv1234 7 ай бұрын
Yeah , I’m a Magna guy , had 7 of them all epic , including an AWD Verada. For family duties the best was the Sportswagon, looked ok and the 5 speed tippy at the time was class leading, and the 165 KW 3.5 was awesome
@MattBlack6
@MattBlack6 7 ай бұрын
We had the 06 Odyssey Vti-L with the K series. Sold it a couple of years back with 405,000km. The bloke who bought it is still getting around in it, runs like a dream. Everything still works, sunroof doesn't leak etc. Exceptionally well made car.
@padraigfallon1234
@padraigfallon1234 7 ай бұрын
Ya looking to buy one now, iv four kids under 5! But are they any fun at all to drive??
@MattBlack6
@MattBlack6 7 ай бұрын
@@padraigfallon1234 it handled better than my 98 Magna... I've gone to a Kia Carnival to accommodate the kids. The 3rd row seats aren't great for permanent use in that shape Odyssey. In the Carnival however they're fine. At 190 odd cm and over 100kg, I fit there fine.
@mattthambirajahpt286
@mattthambirajahpt286 6 ай бұрын
Yep we got the 06 Rb1. Done 181k atm and is such a relaxing car to drive. Leather seats worn out etc, but it's still very comfy.
@padraigfallon1234
@padraigfallon1234 6 ай бұрын
Great thank you for information lads
@mjrmotorsports9975
@mjrmotorsports9975 7 ай бұрын
This generation of Magna is the new p plate weapon in the south west, fast and reliable and heaps around… Cheap to buy, repair and maintain, early 2000’s there were no less than 3 in my friend group, great cars.!
@GForceVRX
@GForceVRX 7 ай бұрын
A few of them are v8 munchers as well 😉
@yourmatejay
@yourmatejay 7 ай бұрын
Owned a Ford Telstar TX5 Ghia V6 manual. Cracking car imo. Super comfy interior, racked up about 200000kms in 6 years and never missed a beat. Wish I'd never sold it
@warren3967
@warren3967 7 ай бұрын
I had one as well, with that silky smooth Yamaha designed V6. Compared to what else was on the market for the price they were and good cars. As you say comfortable and very quiet.
@Wedgetail96
@Wedgetail96 7 ай бұрын
Was never going to get any positive recognition given the extreme anti Ford bias on this channel. He even tried to say that the Commodore was all Aussie, when we are all aware it simply wasn’t.
@jaredbawden6707
@jaredbawden6707 7 ай бұрын
My sister had the 626 V6 for a while. It got me loving Mazda's again, it wasn't short on KM's and went well. Did find it a bit soft handling wise. It was a pity she wrote it off, shunting some poor unsuspecting soul.
@joelnorthcott108
@joelnorthcott108 7 ай бұрын
Agree! My grandmother had a Telstar TX5 V6 in Grey. Was an ex detective's car. What a great car. I owned the equivalent 626 V6. Also good car
@warren3967
@warren3967 7 ай бұрын
@@Wedgetail96 Funny you should say that, but Jim has a very pronounced anti Ford bias. Last week he stated that every Ford Ranger 3.2 has had an engine replacement, yet a quick crawl through that web sites show this is not true.
@xkimopye
@xkimopye 7 ай бұрын
My grandmother bought the 1985 Ford Telstar TX5 turbo brand new, she still owns it and now I am the driver, I’ve owned a number of great sports cars and that Telstar is an absolute ripper. I love that car.
@joeezra5460
@joeezra5460 7 ай бұрын
Sometimes the journo’s get it wrong…the early 90’s v6 Telstar was an amazing car silky smooth engine fun to drive…I’d rather drive that than 90% of the garbage on the rd today.
@geo41e
@geo41e 7 ай бұрын
Epic episode fellas... bringing back memories, not only from cars, but songs n movies .. God danm... so much nostalgia
@gonzoswitters
@gonzoswitters 7 ай бұрын
Oh man, Jim’s : “Give your Mum a call” gave me the first solid laugh out loud of the week. Hahahahaha
@psychalogy
@psychalogy 7 ай бұрын
If you’re looking for sporty dynamic handling in a Magna/Verada you’re doing it wrong. They were smooth, comfortable, reliable, plenty quick enough with that V6, and just ate distance like nothing else. A weekend dash from Sydney to Melbourne wasn’t out of the question in one of these, and you arrived not beaten up by the drive.
@GForceVRX
@GForceVRX 7 ай бұрын
Set up right they actually handle remarkably well. The Improved production race series has some very competitive Magna’s up against some fast v8 and turbo competitors
@thomasclayton169
@thomasclayton169 7 ай бұрын
Yep Australian cars really were good highway cars
@billymasonpi
@billymasonpi 7 ай бұрын
Drove from the Central Coast NSW to the Gold Coast on one tank of 91 ULP; I clearly remember 779km on the trip computer. Got well past Coolangatta; I think it was Tugun before refilling. That was in 2007 and she has 600K on her now; but she could probably happily do it again.
@GForceVRX
@GForceVRX 7 ай бұрын
@@billymasonpi nice, that’s decent economy for a big old 6
@GForceVRX
@GForceVRX 7 ай бұрын
@@thomasclayton169definitely
@bafg182
@bafg182 7 ай бұрын
The 2.6 inline six used in the export VR Commodore was an Opel CIH engine, which by 1994 was a pretty dated engine and had largely been replaced in European Opels by a V6 by then. Love is all around by Wet Wet Wet was in Four Weddings and a Funeral The biggest COTY award would have to be European Car of the Year, which was won almost exclusively by French cars and Fiats/Alfas in the 90s
@johnnumbat9782
@johnnumbat9782 7 ай бұрын
Ah the memories - thanks again Adam & Jim for your armchair travellers incredibly relaxed and enjoyable conversations - I sold my GC8 ten years ago for a deposit to buy a house but I also had a ‘97 automatic Subaru Forester for 18 years with original transmission until the camshaft seized at 425000 kms - one of the best Subarus I’ve ever owned and not one blown head gasket with this model - the only critique I can add was the typical paint peeling of these ‘97-‘02 models with white duco only.
@danielversion1.035
@danielversion1.035 7 ай бұрын
"Billy Ray Cyrus: If you haven't heard of him... don't go hearing of him!" Should be on a shirt 🤣🤣
@philhogan5623
@philhogan5623 6 ай бұрын
And it wasn't even the worst one in this video.
@michael.w92
@michael.w92 7 ай бұрын
That first generation Odyssey ran the 2.2 F series engine which it shared with the Accord at the time, which was also an excellent car. The first Odyssey to run the K series was in 2004 when Honda released the sleek and sexifed Odyssey you pictured
@eddiemoore7562
@eddiemoore7562 7 ай бұрын
My son's N14 has 291,000km and is his daily. Great car even today. Everything works,
@konkonidaris8469
@konkonidaris8469 5 ай бұрын
I owned an N14 Nissan Pulsar, and I remember shopping around for a replacement for my Holden TG Gemini, and the Pulsars seened like a good match, similar size, but with a hatch. I also remember noticing a big jump in price between the second hand N13 and the N14 models, and when you try them out you automatically understand why. Up until the N14 Japanese small hatches were all buzz boxes, clearly built down to a price point, the N14 was clearly better quality, and mimicked the larger family cars of the day. I owned mine from 1995 to 2010, a base model GLI manual, with power steering and air conditioning. The car's gear box eventually gave out, but it was 19 years old before it went to the wreckers.
@murry001
@murry001 7 ай бұрын
The Mitsubishi Magna's were tanks!!! my old 98 model had 330,000+kms on it, original engine and transmission. Can't believe it kept going
@martytdd1606
@martytdd1606 6 ай бұрын
They were called 'Carisma' in the UK, we had the smaller 4 cylinder enginges but like you said tanks. We had a 1996 one from new, my dad bought it, drove it for 4 years, I drove it for 3 years, my brother had it for about 5. Years later i bought a Lancer with the same 1.6 engine, absolutely bullet proof also. I think the first generation Carisma looked great in UK spec.
@axelknutt5065
@axelknutt5065 7 ай бұрын
Fun walk down memory lane … would have been nice to show the runners up for each year too. Wheels was pretty much just a Holden sales brochure back then. The only Ford COTY for the 90’s was the rebadged Mazda’s.
@vfredsim
@vfredsim 7 ай бұрын
And the snub of the EF in '94 was definitely bias
@MikeP-oj1ty
@MikeP-oj1ty 7 ай бұрын
We owned a 1996 Telstar Tx5 V6 from 1999 to 2007. I'm sorry to say that I disagree with your assessment. Ours was totally reliable and comfortable. That little V6 sounded unreal when given a good thrashing.
@MikeP-oj1ty
@MikeP-oj1ty 7 ай бұрын
Sorry, my mistake. Ours was a 1993 model not 96 as stated above.
@seedias5961
@seedias5961 7 ай бұрын
1996 - when Jim says “that song” and groans - knew immediately it was Macarena! Totally agree - absolute ear torture!😂
@nathandunnn
@nathandunnn 6 ай бұрын
I remember seeing a turd Telstar recently. Only ever seen one once. My dad had an 83 telstar though and it was an absolute beast
@masterjedi147
@masterjedi147 7 ай бұрын
My dad had a 1997 VT Commodore GTS with the 5.7 V8. Awesome to drive, however, it pretty much spent half its life not working, and the other half at the mechanics, sometimes both.
@TaffPlays
@TaffPlays 7 ай бұрын
My grandma had a TJ Magna for about 13 years and was bought brand new around 2001-2002 (hers was a V6 Si which is actually quite rare), never had a single problem! I'd say the TE is worthy for sure! Only thing I wish they were RWD.
@oiToxic
@oiToxic 7 ай бұрын
TL VRX for me
@ayrproductions
@ayrproductions 7 ай бұрын
My best mate’s mum had a TJ Advance wagon brand new with the 3.5 V6. Went off its nut and had a decent standard stereo system to boot. The TE was best as a four cylinder manual. I worked at a Mitsubishi dealer in 2004 and the V6s used to cost $1000 just to change the rear bank spark plugs (Mitsubishi servicing schedule mandated platinum plugs for the rear bank so they could be changed half as often as the front bank at 80,000km instead of 40,000km). While the four is a bit slower, it also uses less fuel and is more reliable than the V6, although the V6 in Mitsubishi guise’s main issue is head gaskets and oil consumption - there are much more brutal and expensive issues for the same motor in Hyundai/Kia guise.
@lancegraham7722
@lancegraham7722 7 ай бұрын
Hows the paint? I bet it faded faster than milli vanilla!
@maxcarter970
@maxcarter970 7 ай бұрын
Those back spark plugs were a pain. You had to remove the intake manifold just to get to them.
@timoleary8751
@timoleary8751 7 ай бұрын
Plugs are a pain in all 6Gs but its a reminder to redo the valve cover gaskets at the same time!
@johnphaceas7434
@johnphaceas7434 7 ай бұрын
Great video and great idea - can't wait to see the next editions (though you should have started with COTYs for the '80s - that would be epic). I've owned maybe 25 cars since I got my licence in 1986, and sad to say I haven't owned a single '90s COTY. Closest I got maybe was the '99 AU Forte wagon in metallic green I bought in 2000 - it was fantastic, would love to have it back. Main reason we got it (traded the wife's 91 Pulsar Vector - another emerging classic...) was that it was the only car available that would fit a kiddie seat, baby capsule and a full grown human on the back seat. Any backpacker circling Oz who picks a LiteAce or Forester over one of these is crazy. More living space in the back than a Sydney hotel suite. And you can just about fix 'em with a spoon.
@scottcarter2362
@scottcarter2362 7 ай бұрын
So the NSX is you're favorite car? Bloody spot on Adam. I'll always keep my fingers crossed one day you'll get to review one.
@Mexxx65
@Mexxx65 7 ай бұрын
I remember not so long ago. Many Oz NSX owners with low mileage NSXs, couldn't give them away, no-one wanted them, Ferrari had that market in Oz...going for around $60,000. ....now
@scottcarter2362
@scottcarter2362 7 ай бұрын
@Mexxx65 yeah, these days people who have an NSX will probably hang on to it. It's one of those rare cars, if you've got a really nice one name your price.
@Mexxx65
@Mexxx65 7 ай бұрын
@@scottcarter2362 ...but....only with the beginning of the internet (in Oz around 1995, well home internet over your phone) And "we" saw many US NSX owners starting asking silly money for them, and UK NSX owners following the trend. And generally the internet highlighting and pushing their exclusivity and rarity. And yes, youtube videos such as this one from our ReDriven boys, unfortunately. They were an average performing "Sports car" at best, with below par performance...but yes with supercar looks.I mean interior wise an NSX was near identical to a top spec Integra or Prelude!!!! ...but no matter people today willy pay ludicrous prices, to join the "Ayrton Senna NSX club"....
@scottcarter2362
@scottcarter2362 7 ай бұрын
@Mexxx65 I've driven one NSX, a 1992 manual. And it was incredible. Whatever the power figures are on paper, it doesn't matter. Wringing every last Rev out of that engine,and changing gears through the best clutch and shifter I've ever used. We have a 2004 Holden Calais V8 in our family. And I'd trade it for an NSX in a heartbeat.
@tcmx712
@tcmx712 7 ай бұрын
​@Mexxx65 the 3Ltr nsx did the 1/4 mile in mid 13's and the 3.2 did it in 13 flat. At the time the hsv vs gts was the fastest domestic car amd they were doing it in the low 14's. So no the "average" Ford or Holden v8 family sedan wouldn't have it for dinner
@BobsBrotherSteven
@BobsBrotherSteven 7 ай бұрын
More of this guys! Really enjoyed this. Also.. How did the VS not win a Car Of The Year! What a great commodore!
@michelletaylor9256
@michelletaylor9256 2 ай бұрын
We had the TE magna for 16 years. Absolutely great car. No mechanical issues over that time. We found the car very comfortable and a fantastic family car
@Warehouse_Life
@Warehouse_Life 7 ай бұрын
I occasionally see a Honda NSX getting around in Sydney. It way too low has an obnoxious exhaust and looks like it’s been used as a daily driver for all its life. It looks so good.
@markdavies1150
@markdavies1150 7 ай бұрын
Hey you just got a shout out on Throttle House’s latest video test driving the latest Alfa Giulia QV.
@ReDriven
@ReDriven 7 ай бұрын
Yes! We just got told. How good 💪
@olly1oo6
@olly1oo6 7 ай бұрын
Ah, the good old days when Wheels magazine were terrified of "the Euros" showing up the local icons. Criminal that the e39 528i / 530i never won ECOTY in that era. That really was a superb car and much better than the Commodore, Falcon etc of the same generation.
@Low760
@Low760 7 ай бұрын
They were better but triple the cost.
@justin3131ify
@justin3131ify 7 ай бұрын
I have the wheels magazine when the NSX and Pulsar tied for car of the year and it was absolutely the SSS N14 that got the approval not the economy puss box.
@crxdelsolsir
@crxdelsolsir 7 ай бұрын
90s cars were the best in being high efficiency, low to no product obsolescence, open source repair info, non to low proprietary tools and no big brother ecu/internet monitoring.
@arkyark8
@arkyark8 7 ай бұрын
My first car was a Nissan Pulsar SSS. Lasted 19 years before I crashed it. I'm a movie+song buff too and remembered every song for each movie mentioned. Fun vid guys !
@damienalexander4532
@damienalexander4532 7 ай бұрын
Magna were great cars.
@mantravision69
@mantravision69 7 ай бұрын
We had the V6 Ford Telstar, it came with stuffed valve stem seals after very few K's and slowly fell apart. It could go round corners really well though, that double wishbone suspension was next generation for the time.
@donbrody8529
@donbrody8529 7 ай бұрын
I bought a 2000 TH Exec ex SA Govt with 40000k on it for family duties. It was the last year where you could have one without a drivers airbag, but the 3.0 was standard. It did 195kmh flatout that one time i took it to mexico ;)
@ethanwd
@ethanwd 7 ай бұрын
Great video idea! Love it. I grew up taking everything Wheels magazine had to say as gospel, and spouting opinions on my aunties’ new car purchases accordingly 😂 Wheels COTY always was the ultimate, but some very valid discussions here about some other contenders that have stood the test of time better… keen to see the next one!
@PajEvo_Aus
@PajEvo_Aus 7 ай бұрын
6G72 is not in the Pajero Evo guys. PajEvo has the 6G74 MIVEC (3.5L)
@RisingSwell
@RisingSwell 7 ай бұрын
Ive owned a 96 and 00 magna, my mum has an 03 commodore and i currently own an AU falcon. The magnas are better than the commodore or falcon in comfort by a huge margin. Also weighed a lot less for the magnas i had.
@marda36
@marda36 7 ай бұрын
Great episode boys, so many memories. Could you add more information about the alternative options for car of year for the year being reviewed.
@Leonardqh5kp
@Leonardqh5kp 7 ай бұрын
briliant work lads - memory lane stroll, used to collect these mags; 4 weddings and a funeral
@bengorst-wright5446
@bengorst-wright5446 7 ай бұрын
First car was a 94 Mazda 626 bought from the first owner in 2018 was a cracking car and I definitely see 626s driving around in Sydney about as many as a sss pulsar. Not often but you do see them.
@schte1n
@schte1n 7 ай бұрын
I've had a few tr and ts magnas over the years. The v6 manuals were an awesome sleeper and fun to drive!
@liorm2877
@liorm2877 7 ай бұрын
Love the idea of the vid but gotta disagree on the1993 626. That thing but Mazda back on the map and led to the Mazda 6 which dominated the market for over a decade. It was super nice and great value!
@FreakinPeanut
@FreakinPeanut 7 ай бұрын
Love the video!!! I wrecked the LS400 / Celsoir for a living for a while, and they were built better than anything I've seen. The interior wood was real, the tech was reliable, the power was spot on, the shape was no BS, I can't fault it. Honda NSX... Still want one.
@FreakinPeanut
@FreakinPeanut 7 ай бұрын
Also, my old man had a Telstar and I remember at a very young age saying why do the Mazda's look like the ford?? 😂
@WazzaG076
@WazzaG076 7 ай бұрын
Bought a new Honda Odyssey in 1996. Utterly trouble free and raised our family in it. Still so good - drives like a car yet carries 7 if needed or carries a bookcase from IKEA flat pack 2 metres long. So reliable and good to drive we still have it low kms as our second car. This was Honda top of their game.
@E2EK131MM
@E2EK131MM 6 ай бұрын
My first car was a Mitsubishi Magna AWD... the 'squared off' model rather than the 'bloated'bubble version. Absolutely loved it - regret letting it go. . .
@schrenk-d
@schrenk-d 7 ай бұрын
VR/VS commodores that went to SE Asia had an Opel/Vauxhaul 2.6 Litre CIH engine. The movie for Gangsta's Paradise is Dangerous Minds. The Engine in the Honda Odyssey was the 2.2 F22B ... from memory.
@kymharris269
@kymharris269 7 ай бұрын
I bought my Grandma’s 1985 Toyota Corolla CSX. Best little car. Velour seats, aircon as extra, auto transmission, super bright headlights. Belts in the transmission started to slip around 230,000 kms. Got them tightened and when it started again around 260,000 I traded it on a 1999 V6 Toyota Camry.
@adriankiraly5172
@adriankiraly5172 7 ай бұрын
I agree with most of your comments, however I think the Magna was a pretty good car: it was very smooth, the 3.5 was quite a good performer too. Good boot size and reasonable servicing cost. The AU Falcon not getting car if the year is a dark point in Australian motoring history.
@gavin047
@gavin047 7 ай бұрын
I had a 03 3rd Gen rx liberty. 240000km great car to own and drive. Loved it heaps of character
@garryborman1792
@garryborman1792 7 ай бұрын
I had a 2.0 N14 , not a SSS but same engine and gearbox - what a missile! Great in a straight line but not so great around corners. A couple of hundred thousand on it when I sold it and it never broke down.i would have another one tomorrow.
@valeriejames8449
@valeriejames8449 7 ай бұрын
My Ford Falcon 1994 GHIA Is an excellent car. 2 owner car. Still going strong 201,000 kilometres. Booster shit itself had to get recon. 400.00 bucks. Parts are getting hard to get.🌹💕
@MediumBluWonder
@MediumBluWonder 7 ай бұрын
My dad had the W220 S class (U.S Spec 500) in period and it was constantly having issues. I remember the final time it broke down, he came to pick me up after a violin recital. He went to unlock it and noticed that the air suspension had collapsed. Despite it being at 9100 miles, He didn't even try to sort it. He traded it in for an ML 55 AMG and never looked back.
@MattBlack6
@MattBlack6 7 ай бұрын
I had a 98 Magna. Pretty base model. 3.0lt 6cyl, manual, wind up windows. It was actually pretty quick for what it was, didn't handle all that well though. The fun fact, because it was a base model with only a tape player, it also had a 3.5mm audio input jack. So you had phone or ipod connectivity to play music lol.
@GForceVRX
@GForceVRX 7 ай бұрын
The manual’s hammer
@thomasclayton169
@thomasclayton169 7 ай бұрын
As time goes by analogue cars like these Ave their charms compared to the overly complex cars of today.
@richlawrence4160
@richlawrence4160 7 ай бұрын
Yep, had one, over 300,000k and still looked new inside, went well, no rust. Had an issue with distributer that made it misfire occasionally once fixed, good all round comfy family car.
@samartz
@samartz 7 ай бұрын
My dad’s friend drive a magna for Canon, gosh I was jealous how beautiful and practical it was!
@ii7317
@ii7317 7 ай бұрын
"All for Love" by Bryan Adams was in the soundtrack The Three Musketeers. Totally agree on W200 being a flogging nightmare surpassed only by "Zwei Zwei Zwei" (W222) which somehow managed to get even worse
@acstagger
@acstagger 7 ай бұрын
Ford Telstar TX5 Ghia 2.2Inj - 300,000kms with same engine and 5spd box. Great car . Fully met it's design brief IMHO.
@cybermatstrikes7557
@cybermatstrikes7557 7 ай бұрын
Dad had a VR Berlina in the metallic green, and it was a great car. I remember Dad loving this Commodore, it was a very happy time. The last company car he loved as much as his VR was his VL Commodore.
@allanbriggs9007
@allanbriggs9007 7 ай бұрын
I had a Berlina - about '93-4-5 - also in metallic green. 140,000 kms in 2 years - absolutely hammered it. Very good car.
@ayrproductions
@ayrproductions 7 ай бұрын
Stepmum bought a third gen Liberty wagon brand new in 1999. Only issue was the usual EJ20 head gasket. Sold it to me with 270,000km on it in 2015 after my beloved XG Falcon Ute got written off. Only issues I had with it was a set of plugs and leads when I first got it which also took out the knock sensor to the point it would randomly chuck up the check engine light and put the car into low power mode once it warmed up and just before I sold it after four years of ownership the rear main seal. I replaced the plugs and leads pretty quickly but let the knock sensor go for three years before replacing it, which brought it back to normal. I sold it with the rear main seal leak and no other real issues four years later with 355,000km on it. Definitely a worthy winner, but maybe not as worthy as the AU would’ve been. The 997 though - not worthy at all if you know anything about Porches.
@Rally4Life1982
@Rally4Life1982 7 ай бұрын
Fella's the reason why the GTI-R's were no good in rallying was because of their silly intercooler location that was pretty much over the exhaust. Not to mention its size was too small. It was constantly down on power because of the Group A regulations. The Subaru was top mounted but it ran cooler due to the boxer design (required less cooling) and it being larger.
@Superion866
@Superion866 7 ай бұрын
My friends used to call it the "interwarmer"😂 Thanks for answering, I was thinking it was probably going to be something to do with gearbox issues
@Low760
@Low760 7 ай бұрын
Gtir was known to be front heavy, the intercooler would get damaged in rally racing and something else. I had a high performance imports mag from 2001 about two gtir's upgraded for rally and one for track.
@cameronbell5556
@cameronbell5556 7 ай бұрын
I bumped into you with my NSX in Newcastle last year. Should still work out a time for that drive :)
@christopherjohnston6343
@christopherjohnston6343 7 ай бұрын
I owned a Ford Telstar Radisich a few years back. I think it's the most collectable version across Australia NZ. I can kind of see it -spacious, rides well, handled a lot better than other large cars (Falcon Commodore etc), v6 isn't really fast but its not super slow either. Very smooth, fuel economy okay. Steers great and independent suspension front and back worked great for our roads. Biggest issue with the Telstar was higher servicing costs - some reliability issues and the biggest thing is they got so cheap for so long so they all turned to shit u
@tyndni
@tyndni 7 ай бұрын
Aladan was an excellent movie. Classic sound track that is still around today.
@johnmull59
@johnmull59 6 ай бұрын
Great watch...It would be interesting to see which cars were in contention for COTY for each year and rank them retrospectively.
@RatedTypeRR
@RatedTypeRR 7 ай бұрын
10:06 Thought they would’ve tied the VR with the Toyota Lexcen lol
@Cynical_Ninja
@Cynical_Ninja 6 ай бұрын
I test drove a W220 and the engine went into limp mode on the test drive. Such a disapointment, but it got me into the best car I've ever owned, for me the best car ever made - the e38 740i
@liddz434
@liddz434 7 ай бұрын
Show the magna some love! They pumped out some great looking models, even all-wheel drive and supercharged versions! I reckon they still look great, shame they stopped making them.
@sutherlandA1
@sutherlandA1 7 ай бұрын
The export VR mentioned used the opel CIH engine as used in the related senator and omega/carlton. Also the n14 pulsar was the last aussie built nissan when the factory closed in 1992
@RatelHBadger
@RatelHBadger 6 ай бұрын
I learned to drive in my old mans' '92 Telstar. It wasn't great, it wasn't terrible, it was a perfectly adequate 'runabout' a 15 year old could learn to drive in, safely.
@sr20trx
@sr20trx 7 ай бұрын
Would be the Opel 2.6 Straight six in Malaysian VRs
@ayrproductions
@ayrproductions 7 ай бұрын
They also sold them with Family II fours in NZ.
@2pintsofcremedementh
@2pintsofcremedementh 7 ай бұрын
@@ayrproductions There's a Royale on tardme right now
@sr20trx
@sr20trx 7 ай бұрын
@ayrproductions and Starfire fours in VKs!
@sticks2478
@sticks2478 7 ай бұрын
Fun fact. I could play that on drums in 91 and can still play it now. Plus I personally love how you say whether drum kits will fit in the boot. I'd actually like to see you guys buy an old kit and use that as your load test.. this channel is quickly becoming my favourite car channel.
@ReDriven
@ReDriven 7 ай бұрын
I might be swapping from a little 20” kit back to a 22” soon, that way it will be a more realistic test!
@katzicael
@katzicael 7 ай бұрын
I had one of those 626s, a JDM one with the roaring KL-ZE engine. They had *the Worst* Automatics in them, there is like 6+ solenoids in em and they all die constantly. Ended up Manual swapping it.
@1971gtrxu1
@1971gtrxu1 7 ай бұрын
Good video - please keep going back in time, 1980s, 1970s
@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars
@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars 7 ай бұрын
90s & 00s Subaru Outbacks are in so many TV shows and movies. Homeland is a classic example.
@Alaster-
@Alaster- 7 ай бұрын
Fun fact; look up the Subaru timing belt part in many other countries, and it was done 160k km/ 100k miles... Nfi why we had to do ours 1/3 more often...
@DavidAnderson-vt8iq
@DavidAnderson-vt8iq 7 ай бұрын
The Smegma totally forgettable while the Odyssey - thanks to that ad - was at least different, but I would kill for an NSX.. Awesome video.
@graysono
@graysono 6 ай бұрын
I had to look it up as I'd forgotten. The Singapore & Malaysais VR - and a very small number of VS too! - ran a 2.6-litre Opel straight-six, imported from Germany and installed on the line at Elizabeth. They should have totally put the RB30 in!
@maxmackinlay618
@maxmackinlay618 7 ай бұрын
The Liberty is more relatable and practical than the 911. Plus the turbo version is not far behind in street performance. A clear winner in price, insurance, reliability, depreciation, repairs et al.
@robvegas9354
@robvegas9354 7 ай бұрын
Great video guys. i haven't seen a VT on the road in the last decade
@mclouj
@mclouj 7 ай бұрын
This is a great idea for a video series, well done whoever came up with it.
@club1fan552
@club1fan552 7 ай бұрын
The Mazda 323 you show from 1991 is not an Australian version. In 1991 it was the Astina with pop up headlights and 5 door only. There was also a 4 door sedan that looked a bit like a baby Benz. This version of the 323 in SP form was a contender for the award in 1989. The 626 from 1983 was the best car in it's class and a very good car overall. I'd love to see the 80's COTYS. The decade started and finished with wins for Mazda.
@donotwantahandle1111
@donotwantahandle1111 7 ай бұрын
I had a 3 door 323. Solid but boring.
@club1fan552
@club1fan552 7 ай бұрын
@@donotwantahandle1111 What year? In Australia the 3 door was only available in rear wheel drive and I'm pretty sure only in the first series of front wheel drive (released at the end of '80).
@Thatguy-cb4qs
@Thatguy-cb4qs 7 ай бұрын
Had a 92 626 wagon in 2008ish. That was a great car.
@apachelives
@apachelives 7 ай бұрын
Subaru Gen 2 Liberty's mostly used the EJ22 (exclude late models and outback) - bulletproof, no major head gasket issues. Lots of leaks but no head gasket issues unless overheated. Gen 3 used the EJ25 as standard with those crappy black coated head gaskets - those were guaranteed to have head gasket issues regardless of maintenance at around 150k kms but could be ignored for years with SOHC engines seeping externally (DOHC models - gen 2 outback, gen 2 2.5L models etc were different - typical internal head gasket leaks). Turbo models also did not really suffer head gasket issues.
@skippylegrandgourou2069
@skippylegrandgourou2069 7 ай бұрын
The EJ208 twin turbos don't have that much HG issues
@apachelives
@apachelives 7 ай бұрын
@@skippylegrandgourou2069 Yup EJ20 and EJ22 engines didnt really have the issues just the NA EJ25, even turbo EJ25 models did not have issues thanks to a better designed MLS head gasket. Pro tip - use the genuine Subaru EJ25 TURBO head gaskets when doing EJ25 NA head gaskets - same fit, permanent fix.
@zeroyon4562
@zeroyon4562 7 ай бұрын
The EJ22 was really reliable. My parents had a 95 wagon that had done high km’s when they got it, and they did a few km’s in it too. Just the usual cam cover leaks is all that went wrong with it. They’ve always had Subarus without a problem, right from the original XT turbo, until the newest generation forester. Decent cars, I’ve had 5 myself.
@goannaj3243
@goannaj3243 7 ай бұрын
30year old cars give or take. My first car was a '63 Mini and Dad got a VP commodore. Huge difference between '60's and '90's cars. Now we have ABS, TC, fewer manuals and bloody big touchscreens. Any big engineering improvements I missed?
@jonathanrabbitt
@jonathanrabbitt 7 ай бұрын
It was an Opel motor in the Opel version of the VR Commodore. It had the Statesman front end on it too.
@Flushandfit
@Flushandfit 7 ай бұрын
SL500 is so beautiful and bulletproof. faulty convertible tops and faulty power seat that will push you into the steering wheel doesn’t matter.
@3UZFE
@3UZFE 7 ай бұрын
Agree
@chron-iki-cles
@chron-iki-cles 6 ай бұрын
Fun fact: double glazed glass was already available a decade prior, on the W220s predecessor, the W140. That generation S class was truly ground breaking and light years ahead of any luxury car built at that time, except perhaps, an LS400…
@skilgour44
@skilgour44 7 ай бұрын
How are the 626 and Telstar bad cars? Mazda was producing cars of a quality they wouldn't repeat until the late 2010s and the Telstar was pretty much the same car. They are still around, they just didn't sell as many examples as some other COTYs.
@healthsparxb9009
@healthsparxb9009 7 ай бұрын
I wonder if they got their wires crossed and were thinking of the Mondeo that came along a bit later.
@greggregson9687
@greggregson9687 7 ай бұрын
This was a good one. We need the next decade now.
@KuroRyuu86
@KuroRyuu86 7 ай бұрын
7 days late. But when my family migrated to Aus, My dad bought a Blue 91 Magna Wagon (under 100Ks). It had that 2.4L engine. That car stayed in the family till the end of my P plate years. It got up to 400K on the clock. My dad used it for work, which he had to travel to regional areas of WA. It took us on family vacations, carried everyone, camped in it for some nights. When I got the keys, I pretty much put too the ground (Teen years). Basically tried to use it as race car xD. Fuel Gauge stopped working at some point, So to figure out how much we used, we calculated the size of the tank to how much it used per trip. At the time Fuel prices was easy to gauge. $10 of Fuel would give us about 10-12 Ltrs. That would roughly give us about 90-110 Kms. I killed it by running it to the ground to a point that we got a Wreaker to pick it up from our house. o7 Served us well till the end. It never gave any major issues before i took over. Mainly my dad was a mechanic before we migrated over.,
@philip4193
@philip4193 7 ай бұрын
I think the "where are they now" component of the video was very insightful, as there have been plenty of cars and other consumer goods that were all the rage when they first came out but have aged terribly both in form and function; particularly with the Mercedes brand, as highlighted at the end. I own a 1983 Mercedes 380SEC coupe with 260K km on it and it's still running reliably and looking good for its age (obviously it had the heads & front end done at around the 200K mark as is typical for these W126 platform vehicles). It's no babied, low mileage show-car either and has been well used by its several previous owners but it has good bones and was made at a time (now long, long gone unfortunately) where Mercedes put quality of design, materials and manufacture ahead of profits and hyped-up tech features with poor longevity [as they do today].
@danielborton9607
@danielborton9607 7 ай бұрын
I bought a 17 year old TF V6 manual Magna Advance for $400. It was had full service history but, I kind of ran it into the ground, very easy to over-capitalise on a $400 car. The handling was pretty good, I thought it was a much better handler than the XV10 Camry. I also really liked the design, both the sedan and the wagon. I think it's aged really well.
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