USED Porsche 987 Cayman - Does anyone really NEED more than this? | ReDriven used car review

[@md8590]

Jesus, this is not the first time I've been looking for the exact car you're reviewing. Last time they all disappeared after your review

[@peterlattimore6013]

Was.between a Cayman or Quattroporte myself. Chose the QP5 just for the exotic measure and being less midlife crisis, being a "FourDoor". Reckon you'll love the Cayman, grab an S model if ya can.

[@zenkigarage]

This literally just happened to me

[@alastairc.5219]

To be fair, finding the right Cayman R is difficult at the best of times.

[@davidarter6271]

One of the attractions of older cars these days is that it is much more fun to drive a slower car fast than a fast car slow

[@wiegraf9009]

Older cars usually mean lighter weight too

[@marironmaiden]

I bought a 987 cayman with 80k miles, faultless so far and drives amazingly!

[@johngalt5411]

I have a 986 Boxster with over 150k, still going strong and loving it!

[@SmokeyOwOs]

Hows it going now?

[@SmokeyOwOs]

Hows it going now?

[@hilton998]

Bought one last week with 37k miles and in love with it!

[@rickortman4897]

Love my 987.1 5spd base Cayman. After 3 years of ownership it is still a joy to drive daily. Best car I've ever owned.

[@dielaufsocke7642]

I agree fully. Never had a vehicle with such an driving experience, steering, driving in curves, everething far beyond "standard".

[@1274anil]

A fellow owner of a 2009 987.2 cayman base and have to agree with a lot of the points here. Its more reasonable to maintain than youd expect for the age and being a german car and its a fun to drive going to work, the grocery store, and down a fun country road. Ive been impressed on how well documented and accessible doing work yourself on the cars are. Easy to find a good mechanic if you cant fix everything yourself. Highly recommend the .2 cayman Base or S as good entry level or just good porsche sport car. No regrets. (I also got the volvo XC60 from after watching re:driven previous good review )

[@bf5175]

I love how right after the mechanic explains that the potential issues are way overblown the host comes back and says, "don't buy one because of the risk." Listen to the mechanic, not the host. And never buy one in an automatic, I don't care if the PDK is faster, that's not what these cars are about. They are about involvement, and you miss way too much of that by letting the car shift for you.

[@Rook....]

I just bought a 2010 Porsche Cayman around a month ago, so far no issues and only 58k miles! Incredible car to drive although a big difference from my first car being a 1.2L Honda Jazz haha

[@Asdosie]

Owned the 987.2 Base for a few years as my daily driver, absolutely LOVED it. Had little to no major mechanical issues aside from ware, previous owner neglected it - front right coil over broke when parked (wild I know), had to have both replaced, £1.5K from porsche direct, the brake lines get rusty quite quickly & require replacing after 5 or so years, I had to do that. Aside from those no issues, Drove perfectly. A truly stunning car & I miss it to bits!! NOTHING for the price comes close. I ALWAYS recommend this over the 987.1 due to the major issues that car has, the cheaper price is not worth it down the line.

[@claudiadavies5110]

I love seeing cars that are engaging at legal speeds😊

[@pervertt]

This is a fair and comprehensive review of the 987. The 987.2 was for me the sweet spot for entry into the Boxster/Cayman market. Enough elapsed time for depreciation to do its work, reliable enough so I could sleep at night, and fast enough to justify its sportscar tag. Having owned and driven newer and faster cars, I worked out that I didn't need something that could zip me from 0 to 100 quicker. What I really wanted was an analogue driving experience. The car had to be light, with a manual box, a proper handbrake, and hydraulically steered. Just enough electronic driving aids but nothing that took control away from me as the driver. No more turbos as I missed the instant throttle response of a naturally aspirated engine. The 987.2 ticked most of the boxes. I bought mine 4 years ago and haven't looked back since.

[@BruceWayne-zt7mb]

you need an rx8 my friend

[@SyG21]

Nobody grew up wishing they owned a Mazda, certainly not one with oodles of problems. Lol

[@Scoharr]

Exactly. I patiently waited to score a clean 987.2 base Boxster with the 6-speed manual - more engaging than the PDK. I, too, wanted the "analog" experience without the hassles of IMS etc. And the 2.9 is a revver!

[@N430-b9m]

I’ve had my 2009 987.2 for nearly 3 years and it’s been very reliable and I love it .proper sports car.

[@Roland_Rohrle]

Almost 4 years for me. Apart from a battery and the rear power steering hoses (did those myself), the car has been perfect 👌

[@neilmarshment2910]

Always liked the Cayman, would struggle to decide against Boxster though. Totally agree about the having a drivers car versus pure performance - 0-60 is a totally pointless selling feature, I mention this to EV owners when they mention this as a major electric benefit. Nothing like the sound track of an engine switching gears on twisty road trip 🙂

[@donkeyshot8472]

if the engine sound is your main focal point and you`re undecided between a boxster and a cayman, then a boxster is definitely the way to go.

[@TwistedDonners]

Firstly congratulations guys on hitting 191k subscribers. It's definitely showing that your hard work is paying off 🎉👏🎉. To be honest while it'd be nice to own the 987 Cayman R for that sort of money I'd look at getting the Tobaru twins as double the fun for around the same price. Have to admit that the design for accessing the engine is more of a hassle than I expected to hear but at least there are many a video to help with it lol Brilliant job as always guys and look forward to next week's videos as per usual 👍.

[@squashum778]

Own the 987.2 base, came with 19” wheels and PDK , lowered it with H&R springs, Black in colour, upgraded the Japanese stereo, so far hasn’t missed a beat after 1 1/2 years love it !

[@BehzadJ]

Love your videos! Especially for all the research you do for every car you show. This channel promotes loving used cars and helps consumers choosing the best car for their need and budget.

[@lesblick6441]

Love the video,all the points re maintenance, reliability spot on. Own a 987.1 S stick, fantastic driving car

[@MrWilliam.Stewart]

I'm so excited, it's very nearly AU Falcon review time! 200,000 subwoofers almost here.

[@robertceroli3512]

Yorak Hunt will be supplying his car

[@h6ytch46]

@@robertceroli3512100% hahahah

[@petesporsche8098]

The Cayman R doesn't have an IMS bearing. None of the 987.2 engines do. Other than that....

[@JuanAdam12]

59K miles on my '09 base Cayman. Fantastic car, daily-driven, purchased with 18k miles in 2018. Mechanical issues aside from required/suggested maintenance/replacement: Clutch pedal/ignition switch replaced at 27k miles. Broken shifter cable at 32k miles Driver's door handle:cable needed replacing in 2023 Water pump starting to leak, replaced at 58K I'm biased, but I think these cars will be future classics due to their shape alone. A pleasure to drive, esp. with some thoughtful upgrades to the suspension, and ECU tune, some intake mods. Nothing outlandish--just gets it heading towards "R" territory.

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[@Szlasa]

Nice video mate, but your mechanic said all good doesn’t matter which model and pretty easy to maintain and then you finish off to say “no don’t buy one unless it’s an R”. I’ve had quite a few 987 models and they’re all great (i think base models are best bang for buck especially if driven on public roads). It reminds me also when quite a few years ago I was all in on 964s because I thought they were the sweet spot for 911s. So I owned a few and all the Porsche forums were “don’t bother with 964, get a 993 because it’s the best aircooled around”. I was in my 20’s and took it to heart even though I loved all my 911s. So I never got to appreciate how good they really were because I always felt some how inferior . Look at the 964 market now. These days I just buy what I like and enjoy them. The horror stories are amplified online and people really try too hard to buy “best example” Porsche. I think you should buy the one you can enjoy the most without worrying about scratches or adding kms on the clock. This video has inspired me to pull out my 987 Boxster (covered in dust) and enjoy the Aussie summer. Also, make sure you buy a manual and drawing pins help the headliner stay up 😂 I keep a box in the glove box.

[@johnob1824]

i had a 987.1 cayman..great car..drivers car, had a 981 and now 718 2.5...loved them all

[@N911GT2]

The PCCM+ is only for the gen .1 not the gen .2. Also the doors are a really easy fix. And cheap parts. Lastly the foam heater issue is an easy fix that has tutorials online. Oh and they don’t leak oil. I’ve had several. One off them leaked. Ever.

[@drk-ent]

I am blessed with this exact one- 2012 - black. Best 2 seater ever- even better than my previous 2011 911 gts. Added a rear cat bypass so now it sounds perfectly throaty to boot. In my opinion- now it’s perfect.

[@981_pdk3]

Great review I really love the Cayman R but having now owned 981 with X73 it would be hard to give up. The X73 suspension option is more suited to track than open road and I love it for this. I believe it was developed off 987.2 spyder. Can be upgraded to 718 spec as I have done rear chassis braces etc. That door sill storage holds a Porsche umbrella good enough not to fly around when pressing on lol. According to the cars designer the Cayman is a complete new car different panels etc everything not just copied off the Boxster.

[@tomnewham1269]

Going by your review I get the impression that Porsche's are not designed for our harsh summer climate. I just did a bit of research and what I found interesting is that a 987 Cayman is larger than a 1990 model 911. So you are right Adam in saying modern 911's etc are looking like SUV's and a Cayman other than it is mid engine is more of a classic Porsche than a modern 911. It might just be me but I did find it a bit annoying when you kept extending/closing your pointer so perhaps you could just keep it extended when using it in your videos.

[@wiegraf9009]

Ehhh. The thing is that they aren't great in cold damp climates either. The issues with water leaking into the car are much worse in cold damp places.

[@Leon.bro73]

Hey guys love you videos. Format and information content is on point. I need to call out the constant movement of the hand held camera. I started to get motion sick in the first 2min of this one.

[@johnbambo9036]

Would be great if you would do a review on the 981s Boxster. Have had my MY14 Boxster for 2 years now (2nd owner). Only issue, other than regular maintenance, has been a replacement Coil Pack. 1 and 6 can be effected by heat apparently. 60k and regularly serviced by PGC. First Porsche was a 6sp 986 and my 981 is the PDK. The 6sp Manual is a fantastic gearbox but the PDK 7sp is it's equal. It's unlike any other auto box I have ever driven (it's that good) + slightly quicker and slightly more fuel efficient AND in the used car market the PDK is usually cheaper.

[@elite7760]

Hey mate I think it would be awesome if u were to review an xr6 turbo I’m surprised you have not reviewed one yet

[@christhorne7565]

I own a Gen 2 cayman, 140,000 miles and I do 25,000 a year in it. Not too bad to run, AOS failed and replaced, various suspension parts, brake leak but other than that it's golden.

[@colseverns9848]

Love the reviews straight to the point practical and interesting! Love the bloopers …

[@Maelstrom8]

Love the review! These are timeless and seem to get better looking as the years add up. BTW... what watch are you wearing? It's very sharp.

[@gregorybattis9588]

2007 Cayman S owner here. Best car ever.

[@justincoleman4133]

Re IMS and bore scoring: 987.1 has IMS (M97 engine) 987.2 does not (9A1 engine). Bore scoring is forged pistons (3.4) on 987.1 only. PCA KZbin channel has excellent videos on both subjects.

[@robertmassucci1]

mine has 102,000. miles just fine. no gum, or oil consumption. but I did do waterpump, and headliner. Other than that smooth sailing.oh one parking brake cable snapped. still fine

[@bluedunn374]

Next up “Should you buy a used McLaren P1?.

[@jonathanokiria464]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Nissan350z33]

I really enjoyed that video... Ok I know your going to lyfao I'd have my "stock" 2008 Nissan 350z any day... I've had its for 5 years trouble free motoring. It's my everyday car and love it... Cheers

[@JJL206]

Could’ve done a little more research before slamming ALL 987.1’s as a potential buy. The 987.1 2.7 is the best value in mid-modern classic Porsche sports cars. IMS is basically not an issue at less than 1% failure rate. No bore scoring issue. 5-Speed transmission is solid and doesn’t have the snapped cable issues like the 6-Speed does. Plus, the 987.1 just looks better (IMHO). And they are a blast to drive. But go ahead and recommend the 987.2 R which is 3-4 more expensive and super hard to obtain…

[@samartz]

The Cayman will probably be the first Porsche I own ashame their used vales still hold really well!

[@murrieteacher]

Oh yes one of these. Or the S1 Lotus without the K series engine unless it has been fixed with the correct headgasket. I think I would go for the Boxster.

[@gaara4667]

Stack of buttons in the centre console= people complain(including people who can’t even afford the car) Less or removal of buttons on the centre console= people still complaining(same people who can’t afford these vehicles) Manufacturers can’t win🤷🏿‍♂️might as well do whatever they want because their cars will sell regardless

[@LawrenceDriveLights]

Great review as always guys, please lose the silly pointer as it is a bit distracting.

[@mj-np9sy]

yeah 2024: 987.1 cayman S 22-25k range. 987.2 cayman s 55k minimum.. is the 30k actually worth it?

[@max5t]

All 987.1 will or have suffered from bore scoring, 987.2 less

[@DoWorkExotics]

Love the Cayman R. Love all of the 997 GT3 RS bits.

[@Looo0007]

opinion: used 987 vs new brz vs new ND miata?

[@danny26348]

I bought a 987.1 last year and giggled when I saw you get inside and see the saggy headliner. I replaced that right away and it made the car feel so much better putting the windows down and not flapping on me. It's chewing through oil and has a little piston slap so I'm going to need to figure out what my options are there. I'm 25 so I probably need to put 30k towards a house instead of that car :(

[@danny26348]

Just put in the new pccm as well and I'm loving having the apple car play

[@munich_zpeed]

I have an M2 and looking for a Cayman now ;) Natural progression :D

[@chuckcribbs3398]

For $40K US dollars, you could get a base Porsche certified Cayman from 2014 with 275 HP/217 FtLbs of torque, with a flat 6 engine, midship, and it only weights 2900 lbs. Compare to a GR86, for $33K with only 228 HP, 182 FtLbs of torque. I think it might be the better car for the price.

[@stephenfisher8636]

For less than half the money, I think you are a bit quick to dismiss the 987.1 Cayman S. Clearly not as "special" as a 987.2 R, but 90%+ of the way there.

[@brettram8099]

Great viewing…can’t go wrong with a Cayman, however please find a Manual to test!

[@Roland_Rohrle]

I purchased the cheapest 987.2 base PDK in Australia almost 4 years ago. I feel a video coming on😂😂😂.

[@csjrogerson2377]

Holy effing Christ. The biggest "What goes wrong" section I have ever seen on this channel. It was half the entire video. That's all you need to know for the older version.

[@wiegraf9009]

It's more that people are hyper vigilant about some of the issues on this car. It's honestly the best value Porsche you can buy by a fair margin.

[@dukeboreham2782]

Have you guys had a look at a T1 Volkswagen Touareg (2004 - 2007) or a T2 (2008 - 2010) ? I'm buying one soon if you would like to make a video with it

[@The10thDentist]

Great info. Thank you

[@Aiken47]

A lot of minor servicing and parts replacement can be done by the enthusiast- there’s plenty of YT vids

[@TheDaynger]

Please do a review on an Alfa Guilia Quadrifoglio, its on my short list for my next car. Thanks

[@shh8198]

So which Porsches you recommend that has least problems 😅

[@mrdobalina3451]

That stupid pointer will be scratching the cars. You should ditch it. If you think viewers are idiots then use post processing to highlight what you’re talking about.

[@lobsterwhisperer7932]

Nothing like an Italian tune-up to clear out the cobwebs.

[@jtmm1980]

Re-Drive the N14 SSS. PLEASE. Seriously

[@johnnyr25]

How dare you besmirch the name of the Ioniq 5 N! It's actually fun in the corners! 😁

[@jamesmcgowen1769]

I reckon I’ll stick with the Kingswood thanks

[@mahcooharper9577]

I just glad wrapped the tow bar!

[@davidarter6271]

Not the Kingswood! I just prepared it for a ReDriven video!,,

[@jamesmcgowen1769]

@@davidarter6271 I’d love to do that!

[@gavazamoabelo4060]

I see a nissan sabre behind Jim, how about that, and with the moden 1s, try a c class

[@taylorc2542]

If you have 30k and want a pure drivers car, it's this or an S2000.

[@04stiger]

Cayman still a little too much Porsche, but only by a roof. Love My Boxster!!!

[@bondjamesbond9041]

No thanks. I'll keep my Suzuki Cappuccino. The Honda s660 in your previous video is a far better car.

[@boredalchemist]

it can go 70 mph around a roundabout not many cars that can do that

[@MrWilliam.Stewart]

Could the Frunk actually be the Froot here in Straya?

[@StevenWebber-p4d]

What's, going on with roof Linning

[@flat6croc]

You can replace the IMS bearing in a 987 Cayman. All 987.1 Caymans got the final big bearing, which requires the engine to be removed and the crank case split to get at the bearing. And bore scoring does not effect 'a very small number of very early models'. All 987.1 3.4 Cayman S are at high risk of bore scoring. The information here is not great.

[@TexasRiverRat31254]

Both the 987.1 and.2 base are far more reliable and neither suffers from bore scoring. The final "big bearing" only had a failure rate of 1% . The 987.2 3.4 has the first gen DFI pump and they were prone to failure which included injecting too much gas into the cylinders causing bore scoring while the reasons for that in a 987.1 3.4 are open to debate it's a very common issue. You'll need a lot of cash to buy an R here in the states and good luck financing a sports car that old now.

[@flat6croc]

@@TexasRiverRat31254 The 3.4 in the 987.2 is not "prone to failure". In fact failures are very rare. Failures of the 2.9 in the 987.2 are rare too, but if you wanted to scare monger, you could say that the 2.9 has had piston ring problems and therefore that engine is "prone to failure". The reality is that very few 987.2 with either engine have suffered failures. The only engine in any 987 Cayman that's a really serious concern is the 3.4 in the 987.1. There's increasing misinformation emerging around the 9x7.2 / 9A1 engine. The number of failures is very low, but because of the track record of the M96/7 engine, a few failures are being conflated into major problem that doesn't actually exist, probably magnified by a couple of companies in the US with a tendency to push their services very, very hard.

[@unclebob4964]

Now now……no cheap shots at the 911 there, lad !!

[@Sapientia-Matters]

Can you do a Caddy panel van 2018 ❤

[@stuartarneaud218]

Love it 😍

[@gedward4335]

Should have done a S not an R. Do the more normal cost effective car.

[@zenkigarage]

I want a 986 Boxster S

[@threewidenocover9015]

.....buy the Audi RS2 Avant this thing is an absolute weapon if tuned, plus triple your mulla in 10yrs

[@MrWilliam.Stewart]

Suspension bushes needing replacement every 40 to 60 thousand kilometers, said no Toyota owner ever.

[@tomnewham1269]

but which is more fun to drive? All cars suffer from compromises and you cannot compare a Toyota against a Porsche.

[@MrWilliam.Stewart]

@@tomnewham1269 That's a great question. Working in the auto industry has offered up the opportunity to drive many makes and models of car, and I can honestly say, no car hasn't been fun to drive. On a track, or a deserted county road, the Porsche will be more fun to drive than a Corolla, assuming it's working correctly. But get 9 of your mates, each in a bog standard Yaris on a race track, and you might be genuinely surprised to learn it's more fun doing that than in much faster vehicles, like who knew? At the end of the day, all cars are fun to drive, especially when pushed to their limits.

[@PazLeBon]

I simply dont't need the repair costs

[@brightenupcc]

No. 981 Cayman is peak Porsche

[@ChrisNF]

I’d love to see you review a Granturismo. Not the new one but the previous model in 4.7 Litre

[@amrjon]

What’s with the pointy thing? Weird and creepy.

[@franciscojuan4551]

Now do an air cooled Porsche

[@garyblizzard5266]

did you buy the backscatcher off peter griffen.LOL

[@davianshipley3890]

Review a BMW 340i

[@bobby3914]

Left after seeing automatic transmission

[@AngelInTheDesert]

Great - most affordable modern Porsche no more.

[@stevefowler2112]

As the owner of a 2018 GT2 RS for 5 years now I can unequivocally say the Boxster/Cayman is not the sweet spot of the Porsche lineup and no it isn't as fun to drive as a 700 HP GT2 :)

[@ravingmad765]

22:27 Good one Jim, D.I.wow, 99% do and 1% are liars. Plenty of diWow in the Porsche community. Let's call this a Freudian slip.

[@DavidNeasbey]

A sports car with an automatic? That doesn't make sense, sports cars are drivers cars

[@babogam]

100k for an old Porsche? I'd rather get a lexus rcf

[@clu4u]

Haha, my 981 Spyder will never have a sagging headliner. “The best part is no part.” Elon Musk.

[@TheRealCatof]

I would be too scared of buying a used German car

[@crossocean5663]

Lexus

[@xr6lane]

Has anyone actually received the fuel voucher yet 😂

[@ReDriven]

Of course

[@xr6lane]

@@ReDriven post or email?

[@ReDriven]

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[@lancegraham7722]

Please, do an mn triton cab chassis...DO IT! they are so bad, you will get max views or i will send you a wanker coffee!

[@mattyp3119]

No. 987 is not peak Porsche.

[@overbuiltlimited]

Guess I'll never know because I didn't watch the video. The perturbed look on your face in the thumbnail just wasn't enough to pique my interest. Now a good 'slap the forehead' thumbnail, that would have done it for sure. Or possibly the ol' 'palms on your cheeks wide eyed look of surprise'. *note: this comment written with sarcasm settings set to maximum.

[@johngriffith5231]

12 mins before you get to the Problems ?,to much waffle .

[@ravingmad765]

Go do some DIWow

[@CathodeRayNipplez]

Been there. Yea, it's ok(ish), not crap, not great, but really just a flash Volkswagen TBH. My biggest issue was (outside of being branded another Porsche wanker) there is nowhere in Au to enjoy the cars potential without it getting crushed while I'm in jail defending 'hoon laws'.

[@themancuniancandidate2744]

I looked at a Boxster/Cayman earlier this year, but decided on an MX5 RF instead. Half the cost for a much newer car, almost as quick as a standard Boxster, a fraction of the maintenance costs, no IMS or RMS worries, and just as much fun in the twisty stuff. Yes, the Mazda isn't going to impress the neighbours, but what kind of twat do you have to be to buy a car using that as a factor?