Reefer vs. Flatbed - Trucking

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[@CashisKingtrucking]

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[@DavidBryantsTranscendent]

I wonder if this company has a product that you could use to trick the idle temperature sensor in my mirror? Them hand warmers ain't cheap. 🤣

[@jerimenolan4809]

@@DavidBryantsTranscendent of they don't, I've had people reccomend an electric blanket inside a large enough trashbag(weatherproofing)

[@DavidBryantsTranscendent]

@@jerimenolan4809 oh that works outside in the snow... Without the electricity. Tried that one outside in a NJ snow storm. Very effective. I was so warm I actually had to poke some vent holes in the bags. Gotta use the heavy duty bags though. Keeps the water out.

[@jwwilliams]

Yeah tarping sucks. Not all flatbed deals require tarping though. I run mainly rebar which doesn't require tarping. The reason most drivers do not like reefer is they think they're losing money when they're sitting because technically you make more money driving than you do sitting. They thank i could be driving and making more money which for the most part is true. I've hauled everything and the kitchen sink like you and somehow or another I've ended up pulling flatbed. Seems to work for me. I'm home most nights and I make decent money. Don't get me wrong. It's still hard work and I'm butt crack tired when I get home. Chaining or strapping on and off two to three times a day in 105° weather is draining.

[@addyvvs2044]

Great video guy. Thanks for being detailed. 👍🏿

[@markdovers5150]

I think one advantage of flat bed work is better visibility behind and around your trailer.

[@SterlingWheel]

I always liked the exercise I got when doing stepdeck. Plus the customers appreciated me better. It was like being the UPS guy on delivery. I find with Reefer the customers hate me cause I'm bringing them work. I think in the long run with my truck being paid off I'll probably get a stepdeck for running summer and reefer for winter running.

[@keltaruusutravels4024]

You'll have the best of both worlds.

[@SouthGeorgiaHotShot]

If it pays more, there's a reason for it. No one's giving money away!

[@HollywoodCane]

Flatbed pays more? Starting next month Trying to decide flatbed or reefer , especially since winter is coming up.

[@brandonthomas4175]

@@HollywoodCane go flatbed

[@titosnsoda1447]

Full disclosure I drive dry van. I like to wake up at 3 or 4 so I can find parking by 4 or 5. I seriously get anxiety thinking about working nights and trying to find parking lol

[@jajajaja2624]

Reefer fits my personally I have no problem going to a shipper and sitting new companies are drop n hook . You get 100k faster with fb and reefer than dry van . Team fb $$$$ .

[@joshcrouch9298]

DAMNIT CASH, I left Foodservice for flatbed, i like the challenges with awkward or oversized loads to secure it. However, it’s not all that physical at all, TO ME. I did foodservice and that was some fun-fast-ramp running work right there.

[@jamieo8653]

Thank you!🇺🇸

[@JeffBobUSA]

Flatbed is harder and your more likely to get injured. There is nothing worse than securing a load in the Fresno summer sun, having a load shift because you were cut off, or having to make adjustments on the side of the freeway in weather with traffic zipping by you at 70+ mph, shit happens! I admire a great tarp job....I didn't do it often and it always took me a lot longer than most. Drivers should be getting least $100 from the carrier at both loading and unloading, its hard work. Reefer is a breeze in comparison...

[@Brsrafal]

i have 10 straps and tarp down within 25 min maxxx

[@SmoothOnTheMoveTrucking]

Great attitude and great info. Thank you

[@BTUTrucks]

Starting my 2nd go-round with the reefer side of the business on Monday, going in for check ride today. This time with a carrier that has solid direct customers and “about 50%” drop and hook. Coming from 19 years with a dedicated fleet and then being an owner operator with a stepdeck, it’s going to take me some time to get over the need to keep the wheels rolling and have a regular sleep schedule… I’m kinda solar powered. :-D

[@killianstrucking5575]

Dang good info!!

[@MoabiteKillah]

Thanks man, good stuff 👍🏽

[@RandMcNallyScally]

Great video

[@vne5195]

*I look forward to further "types of trucking" comparisons.*

[@markwillbanks3607]

You just convinced me to never do either one. Good content, Reverend.

[@braddalton9260]

A tip for anyone wanting to do flatbed find good small local company less trucks the better for example I pay my driver 26 percent home every other day mostly no tarp or coil bag but I hauled Bremen Indiana to shepardsville KY insulation 5k weight no tarp load paid 1700 tmc driver gets 27 percent and tmc claims load pays 750 even tho they had it posted on dat load board for 1500 all large carriers take loads Much cheaper and is why u don't see many small company's where they load because they drive down rate the two drivers I showed called thier company and tmc couldn't explain why one quit the other said he was but idk for sure they was really getting screwed not just on the one load on all loads I'm not sure if the other guy did for sure or not

[@khvtzm]

I luv the honesty and staightforwardness so far amongst truckers...im assuming uber lyft doordash bills r high amongst reefer drivers...oh yeah drivers can bobtail 2....reefer otr or regional

[@catfishmike4599]

I did 9 months of Refer , it was a Love Hate relationship, been doing Van and it’s move , move , flatbed is hard rewarding work, did local flatbed . Really miss refer.

[@climbthatmountain]

If you play your cards right, it works out some nights, doing refer. I've TOTALLY, done my 8 hour sleeper...waiting, on my open door. If you work your gig, correctly...whatever your specialty, it works!

[@smokehouse1369]

I’ve seen guys raising hell about waiting & I’m like it’s part of the job. Longest I’ve waited was 13 hours for cold storage in Tacoma. Then the DM on duty got mad at me because I was going to shut down & get some sleep. I told that chick for my life & the lives of others, I don’t feel safe driving. As if working 70-80 hour weeks is for the faint of heart.

[@krispykremekiller1469]

I live for the cortisol dumps...lol. On the flipside...blue is your color. Has a calming effect on this viewer ;) Be safe my friend!

[@reggaeriderr]

Like ur views and the way u look at things

[@mike-sk2li]

I refuse multi stops. Only take 1,500 mile or more runs. In summer time run Cali produce and meat back in. Reefer has gotten so much easier since covid. No more pulping or counting its basically all shipper load count because they don't want you on the dock.

[@joshcrouch9298]

✊ BEAT on that door 🚪!!!!

[@jerimenolan4809]

They really do stand out like a sore thumb at shippers 😅

[@timwest5456]

Good morning Cash!

[@rontrull9308]

Winter you can dress for 120° in summer in the southern states chaining and tarping is the brutal.

[@phabloagr]

That type of content is great. Why don’t you do a video about the differences on owner/company operator and lease. Also I’d like to hear your experience on the dubles at UPS. Thanks dude! Great info.

[@Brsrafal]

driving flatbed steel pipe pretty much my whole trucking life thinking about leaving . I often get freight thats not banded wrapped properly or box pallets on a flatbed that keep going loose and you have to pull over on highway with straps flapping . Plus the extra responsibility I think i'm leaving flatbed . What attracted me to flatbed is getting out and moving around playing with straps chains vs sitting all day long kills your body . I'm fortunate i dont have to tarp !!!!!

[@ryanbrooks7737]

I've never gotten paid for securement. Company side I get tarp pay, OOp I just get paid by the load upon delivery. Flatbed seems to be less miles, but much more pay because some loads are definitely a headache. I typically run 6am to 8pm, hardly ever use less than 14hrs a day.

[@JTmovingweight99]

Flatbed perfect for young guys starting out

[@BoucherYe]

I’ve been wanting to say you look good in a cap. Almost as good as me.

[@timthetrucker6216]

🔥

[@johnnygarza4364]

Beardstown is the place you mentioned where you drop the trailer and go to Walmart lol

[@lctjr]

I want to have a conestoga too just because I hate tarps. But I do need to learn how to work my logs better if you have any advice on duty status on long waits I would appreciate it

[@BoucherYe]

Your opinion is the only thing that matters to me

[@pioneerspiritPS]

Do you have a take on Cabover vs Conventional?

[@chickenhauler8076]

Untarping in winter sucks, but As long as my body allows I will prefer open deck

[@brandonthomas4175]

What about flatbed making 52cpm and $25 extra per tarp load? Honest opinion. Starting next month...in the middle of winter

[@Brsrafal]

stay local get paid by hour hopefully overtime after 8 instead 40

[@JJason406]

Then you have to pay rent for a apartment and pay higher tax rate because you are not getting per diem. Save 50k a year doing otr

[@drummerboy1545]

Flatbed all the way!

[@georgewilson1184]

Flat bed is ok if you are hourly and it is unfinished construction structural steel that don’t require tarping still a lot of work but no tarping reefer no good too much waiting product handling you are responsible for maintaing correct temperatures and you better be a reefer mechanic too and know what to do if that thing goes down you got to know where to get dry ice and you got to know the pallet exchange game you got to know how to judge produce but you got to pay attention too details on steel & lumber conditions actually Dump work is easy metal & glass recycling not excavating

[@brandonthomas4175]

What about flatbed making 52cpm and $25 extra per tarp load? Honest opinion

[@keltaruusutravels4024]

I like reefer. Can't do flatbed cause way too weak for it.

[@DavidBryantsTranscendent]

But we love you. Who would shit in the comments section? Ain't nobody got time for that. 🤣

[@DavidBryantsTranscendent]

Update on the Western Express saga... I just did a 34 hour reset waiting to get 4 lights 3 tires and a shock done. 24 of that was spent waiting on Western Express's breakdown process... Even though I'm sitting in a TA shop parking lot. None of that time is paid. I put all that off to this point because the last time I needed a tire and an air line and it was an actual road side emergency... It took 18 hours... Sitting on the fog line... Before that got handled. None of that time was paid. 🤣 So I knew I was fucked either way. It's better to be fucked somewhere that has a toilet, running water, and a crying game shower available. Lost my load because of it. But if I'd gone to get the 47 thousand lbs flatbed load 80 miles away and drove back 80 miles in the direction of the delivery and the shop... My luck is I would have finally got hit up by the DOT or ended up doing my 34 waiting on roadside, on the roadside, with a load on. Good times... Good times.

[@DavidBryantsTranscendent]

The most painful part of all that... Is I'm a mechanic. So all of that is well within my wheel house. I could have gotten that all done in 2 hour's or less by myself if I was an owner operator. Which would have cost me money... But some how I feel like the lack of responsibility in that department as a company driver is an extremely over priced accounting issue at Western. That would be a really interesting comparison. Owner operator overhead vs miles and pay lost as a company driver. I have all my BOL's and pay stubs if you're ever bored enough. 🤣

[@toddobs]

Whys all prime reefers going 60mph or less on pa and Ohio turnpike? Anyone else notice?

[@DiabeticTrucker]

Prime Inc governs their company trucks between 57 and 62 miles per hour. I think their least purchase trucks are governed at the low 60s as well

[@BobbyG83]

@@DiabeticTrucker any and all forms of their lease trucks are governed at 65 mph. If they're going slower it's because primes a huge advocate for saving fuel, mostly because their rates are shit. (I was there 4 years)

[@redjeb5833]

@BobbyG Ain't that the truth. I had a prime broker tell me if he can't get one of us to haul, he will have one of his trucks do it. Never called a prime broker since that exchange.

[@smokehouse1369]

Yeah seems like Prime & Raider Express are the turtles of the group. I’m a turtle myself my company truck goes 65

[@micclay]

I talked to a prime lease driver teaming with his old lady. Said they run 5000 miles a week and bring home $700/week after deductions.

[@anthonysilva5015]

I am about to start CDL school and trying to figure out what I want to run... I am a night owl and 7 mins in sounds like reefer is my gig... lol. Thank you for doing this comparison. Do you think you can make more money as an O/O in reefer vs a company driver? EDIT: yup... I am all about sleeping during the day and headed out at 1600 to avoid traffic. Still doing my research but reefer is high on my list next to hazmat.

[@CashisKingtrucking]

There is a freight for everyone. Good luck on your journey

[@Brsrafal]

wow i cant drive at night i fall right asleep lol this is great for you if thats how u really function . Get at least 2 3 years before going solo. money just matters company by company hazmat double triple endorsments help tanker

[@addyvvs2044]

I am just like you in that regard. Night owl to the max! I like the road to myself a lot, I don’t mind much later when traffic sets in but I prefer for it to be close to the end. And I’m a big time day sleeper.

[@michaelzma9102]

If Flatbed isn't that busy in winter, would that be a good time for vacation? I wonder if there are Flatbed companies that would allow me to take winters off.. ?

[@miles2money397]

I have a problem I can not stay awake at night so does that mean reefer is out of the question for me ????

[@CashisKingtrucking]

That could be tough. I get a lot of deliveries between 11pm and 6am

[@addyvvs2044]

@@CashisKingtruckingI don’t mind driving at night and I actually prefer it. Do I sound like a reefer guy. I’m on the cusp of getting into a training program and trying to decide.