New Order- Interview/"Blue Monday" w/false start on Countdown 1983

[@TheLokiBiz]

His explanation of a drum machine to a bewildered interviewer always cracks me up "someone's clapping in there - imagine a lil fellow with 8 arms..." haha

[@schubertuk]

"What are you, then?" -- "Bank robbers!" ; classic!

[@FunOnABun1]

Oh my god. They're such dorks. I love it.

[@kristianTV1974]

If by 'dorks' you mean 'off their fucking tits', then yes they are dorks.

[@sunsetman22]

Been taking lots and lots of them dork pills yeah?

[@ambientstereorecordings3528]

A dork is a mis-shapen penis.

[@robertrozier2940]

Geniuses. Absolutely geniuses they were and are. No one makes a song like Blue Monday. The lyrics just tear into me like cold blades. I love New Order so fucking much.

[@llewboy9973]

Same. Reckon they'll do another album? I hope so since they've been touring a lot since music complete.

[@svejkfan2220]

I've never heard Stephen Morris speak before.

[@Cefesky1]

He learned to speak for this video.

[@devinthierault]

He always sounds like he's telling the funniest joke

[@ronienrikey]

He spoke in an interview at 1979 when they played at Something Else. You can watch the video in KZbin

[@kiedru]

He spoke on Joy Division Documentary film

[@Ruben_Godoy]

jajajaja

[@charlessomerset9754]

God, they were so young. Their accents have softened so much.

[@81colinzeal]

Steve's explanations are the best. I could listen to him for hours.

[@DX5]

I really love when he demonstrates the Moog Source. Stephen's sense of humour is hilarious :)

[@jrmarrero96]

I cant wait for his autobiography

[@No-to4id]

Joseph Marrero he seems like the only one who can give an unbiased view on the Hooky v Barney situation.

[@jrmarrero96]

That's debatable, since Steve is still in New Order with along with his wife Gillian. I can't imagine he's going to tell 'the whole truth' regarding the ups and downs of working with (for?!) Barney throughout his career.

[@Hornwiesel]

I love Stephen. Amazing drummer and seems to be a nice lad.

[@robertbrown8362]

I heard he's low voltage when it comes to spillin the beans

[@awlonghurst]

New Order at their peak IMHO. Geniuses, melding punk sensibilities with electronic dance. Bought every vinyl they made in the 80's and all their CDs from then on. Still have the punched sleeve 12" that Factory lost money on with every copy sold due to the cost of manufacture to make the single look like a then, high tech, 5.25" floppy disk.

[@johndododoe1411]

12" floppy, very rare format that couldn't compete with 8" 5¼" and 3½"

[@josephkyle1557]

that was a myth, sorry.

[@gordonm6108]

​@josephkyle1557 It is true though. It's well documented that they lost 5 pence on every copy sold, and it became the biggest selling single in the UK for a while. It's not a myth.

[@Muesli711]

Bank robbers or thieves like us..

[@kylecduncan]

To have seen them in four different decades has been a privilege. 81, 87, 94, ‘08, ‘17. Plus Hooky last year killing it on complete play through of “Closer.”

[@neoisis9373]

Stephen plays like he’s a “fella with 8 arms” too

[@gita_andani]

Bernard's talking voice is very child-like. so cute

[@kgbinfo]

Funny how Bernard says the Prophet is "old fashioned" in 1983.

[@LocaliLLocano]

k___g___ b___ that’s the time when the digital synths were getting hyped. Now it’s the other way around.

[@gemspotting6252]

Absolutely classic new order - terrible live performance but you’ve just gotta love em’ and Blue Monday? Well it’s the best selling 12” single of all time - enough said

[@leoa4c]

The Toyota Corolla is the best selling car of all time. It doesn't make it great.

[@the_fifth_wheel]

@@leoa4c it’s reliable and popular

[@leoa4c]

@@the_fifth_wheel So popular, in fact, that when one passes by nobody even notices it.

[@garryrptr]

​@@leoa4cwhat are you on about mate, corolla is fun cool little car to drive around 😂

[@onenarrowdoor]

Hooky not playing the drums as if he was trying to cave Bernard's head in. Those were the days.

[@marciojunior3749]

onenarrowdoor

[@DustyCustard]

You mean Hooky was miming the drums, or playing them shitly to annoy Bernard? When they played live on TOTP Hooky hits the drum one time too many with his hand and there's no sound, so I wondered if he did actually mime the drums?

[@azynkron]

Very few bands were live on TOTP.. unfortunately.

[@DustyCustard]

With the very noteable exception of New Order, who insisted on playing live each time or they wouldn't do it. Hence my enquiry above, as it seems odd Hooky would mime drums when they made such a song and dance about being allowed to play live.

[@jimbobnoye7110]

Ohh nice one...I sung live every time Combawomba came on TOTP🐵🐵🐵🐵

[@dixienormous6969]

Fuckin Stephen and barney are so cute hahaha especially barney he's so short and looked like such a school boy with his little military styled haircut and his clothes

[@ShainaKarasik]

Roy Mustang omg I agree !!!

[@dixienormous6969]

Jonas de la Plata it depends, but I think I'd rather hug him instead lol

[@dixienormous6969]

***** I think you do too ;)

[@dixienormous6969]

***** you could be tho

[@dixienormous6969]

***** yeah pretty much! And I think you like to suck too since ya mention it so much ;)

[@DiamorphineDeath]

This is great, surprised I've never ran across this. The transition from the joy division stylistic choices to this is still such an interesting thing to me, so different yet both fantastic.

[@markanderson3870]

DiamorphineDeath Interesting too, I've read that Joy Division was moving in the direction that New Order ended up going in. One of the 'great ifs' as to how JD would have gone.

[@explanationmark_]

mark anderson I think one of them said Ian would’ve sang Blue Monday. :(

[@xlccryyt6678]

@@markanderson3870 Yeah, listen to The decade from Closer. You can definitely hear that New order in there even as far back as no love lost

[@ccampbell9176]

This is great, I always thought this artist was Depeche Mode. Live and learn.

[@primitivo4604]

It's not a secret, they went to NY, went to the clubs and wanted to produce similar stuff to what they'd heard there.

[@phsycopiano]

Saw new order last week. It was so awesome and when those first bass drums hit with blue Monday the whole place exploded

[@Geo-gw7fs]

Stephen is an amazing bloke 🎹🔊💾⌨️🥁🤖

[@gandorwheeze2527]

Pioneers! Sounds better than the various recorded versions. Early New Order progressed slowly yet impressively in a short time……….Love this!

[@davidkennedy6208]

They are so young!!! Great seeing them back then, near the start of their career.

[@tomkiso4792]

Just absolutely ground breaking and ahead of its time... Beautiful.

[@solas4999]

I come here every once in a while just to hear Stephen talk :)

[@A9_Chord]

Bernard look more handsome than other 20 yeas old influencer right now.

[@chrisridenhour]

Hookys bass at 5:39 - vestiges of Joy Division

[@kylecduncan]

Yes... the last remnants of the empire.

[@sidewaysonhighways]

Bernard was really cute back then.

[@batteryacid1]

sidewaysonhighways agreed

[@Kyoko_]

They all were.

[@aazreaal]

My mom always said my dad looked like him when they met.

[@ethereal_333]

My all time favorite song in its purest and most original form... I guesstimate that I now have around 150 versions / remakes of this song by various artists as well as versions they did.

[@AndrewInCanada99]

Great performance, really like the glossy kind of effect this video footage has, also I really enjoy the sound of the bass guitar when New Order play this song live. It’s funny though, every time I see Bernard and Steven enthusiastically talking about synths I can picture Hooky going “would you get on with the bloody song already” haha, but I think that clash between traditional rock instruments and electronics like drum machines and synthesizers is what makes the band unique.

[@mickmick3518]

stephen describing his gear is the best omg

[@sullyboy1974]

No one plays the bass like Hooky.

[@odw_99]

He’s a monster on the bass tbf- absolute legend

[@Rebelscum320]

Audun Laading was a close second.

[@bennyshambles]

And he (some of the time) plays a very unique bass that no one else (famous) plays, the Shergold Marathon 6 string.

[@canuck21]

Thank you so much for this rare footage.

[@oldmanc2]

Seconded. Love this.

[@seriouslyitslife]

peter looks 10 years older than the rest lmao

[@RomanoSica-m6z]

New order one of best English bands grew up with there music 80s best decade thanks Bernard for the memories. ❤ them.xx I still play there music today never goes away best ❤ is best ❤👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@extremeconcepts1]

I wish New Order did more explanations and demos of this type of stuff

[@sodiumlights]

adore the presenter cutting to the chase with his first real question. And then Bernard's droll reply.

[@lRedPosion]

And that thick Dutch accent too 😂

[@phamsonca8719]

stephen describing his gear is the best omg I really love when he demonstrates the Moog Source. Stephen's sense of humour is hilarious :)

[@Grichal1981]

In every live performance of this song I've seen of this from the 80s, they make a complete hash of it.

[@gregwardnz]

You should get in touch. I'm sure they will welcome your skill and expertise.

[@Zeropainter420]

I saw them in the us in 1987 ;) with PIL and sugar cubes . I had second row center in a giant natural amphitheater called red rocks in Colorado ;)

[@Jetty-xd9yc]

You are one lucky bastard 🥁😉

[@John-ip3xm]

Batcavesales Batman...I am from Centennial, Colorado and have seen dozens of shows at Red Rocks Amphitheater...it truly is the 8th Wonder of the world!! Justin Hayward, of the Moody Blues played with the Colorado Symphony on a live recording in 1992 and loves the place.❤❤❤John Keating

[@joeldukes303]

Super jelly

[@javakidnyc1]

tour w/ pil and sugarcubes was technique in '89. saw them then as well. 1987 us tour was co-headline with echo and the bunnymen

[@NotNotKenny]

I saw the show in Philadelphia during that tour with Gene Loves Jezebel opening.Great show.Never got to see the Sugacubes,but saw PIL open for INXS.

[@kzinful]

Stephen hid his true identity as that of a mad scientist all the while masquerading as a brilliant drummer. Touche' my friend Touche'

[@sharksport01]

8 arms would be a good name for Stephen.

[@CobraInDaGrass]

Hooks looks so unnatural while playing those drums without a base in his hand.

[@attackinberlin5895]

*bass

[@devinthierault]

@@attackinberlin5895 I'm sure he's not holding a fish

[@Mario456SS]

I saw New Order on their Technique Tour at Shoreline.. with Sugarcubes & PIL… 1989’. Crazy Show! Blue Monday.. one of my favorite songs!

[@RastaSaiyaman]

Peter Hook said that insisting on playing live for real on chart shows hurt their single sales. But the upside was that it gave them a larger live audience who came because they admired NO's audacity and refusal to sell out.

[@alejoromero]

That song was such a stroke of genius that not even themselves could replicate it. Live always sounds poor.

[@DonnyBomb]

The whole song is essentially one big sample lol

[@cyberspace667]

It’s crazy to think how easily you could execute this whole song at the push of a button now but these dudes are legends for manning that transition

[@brokenbiscuits4077]

Stephen is adorable I want him in my pocket

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

That face Bernard made was everything 4:34

[@stormbroke]

Pete certainly new how to rile Barney

[@wrath6158]

bernard was very beautiful back then

[@spurv]

Yeah, and now he looks like a banker ready to retire.

[@rumblefish9]

Bernard is adorable here.

[@Zeropainter420]

I saw new Oder once . The gal on the keyboards was smart enough to program all the music in to the computers in the first 5 minutes. Then she turned it on and left ;) brilliant . They did use those huge electro drums too . This is so neat to see all the hardware etc that makes a classic . The universe wants certain songs and this was definitely one of the universes top 5 .

[@StopMoColorado]

Kyoko - looks like you missed the Winky Face, he was busting balls! 😝😝

[@dixienormous6969]

the magic behind new order ugh I love it!!!

[@joyegreg]

Oh my gosh, Bernard is so cute.

[@rumblefish9]

He is!

[@spurv]

Yeah ... throwing out Peter Hook was not so cute.

[@kazdem1]

Is it only me who thinks that the first elements of Blue Monday are in the Joy Division's song "In a lonely place"? And in between of them stands 586 from "Power Corruption and Lies". It's like watching the evolution of an idea... versions of the same core...

[@leonardocarneiro9520]

I can hear some similarities between Atmosphere and Ceremony. The guitar in Ceremony sounds a bit like the synths in Atmosphere, to me at least.

[@MN_-]

I think everythings gone green sounds like an early blue monday

[@LeighWinspear]

How to carry on regardless......Unreal footage.......another youtube gem.......;)

[@ronniebeumkes4099]

Awesome!!! New Order interview/ Blue Monday 1983! 💯% Respect!

[@user-bq4cq5jv9b]

Really worth seeing, especially the "human touch », which makes a big difference...

[@lucasm3879]

Stephen's voice and personality sound identical to Lee Dixon, the English football pundit! (He's also from Manchester).

[@tanndigedan2261]

Awesome dorks 😁 fantastic group xx

[@JimJWalker]

Can you feel Barney thinking "stop that shit Hooky and stop playing over me"? Meanwhile, never realizing that Hook's part actually make the song great. The tension is obvious to me.

[@dogmart]

Yes. If you read Hooky's memoir about Joy Division, he is *very* critical of Bernard being a control freak--both before, during, and after Joy Division. I think Hooky's books post 2007 have been cathartic for him--a lot of pent up anger at Bernard. To be fair, I think the evidence is there that Bernard was a control freak about the group, especially after Ian died. If you read Brian Edge's book, New Order + Joy Division: Pleasures and Wayward Distractions, I believe he quotes Hooky as saying something to the effect, "Bernard can be a genius, but there's a fine line between being a genius and being a dickhead."

[@Forestgravy90]

Possibly he was a control freak to an extent, but Hooky was a very abrasive personality. The way he is behaving now with the whole royalties dispute is very childish imo, and it is pretty telling that Stephen and Gillian are perfectly happy to work with barney nowadays and produced a cracking album together, while Hooky plays Joy division covers with his son and writes books laden with bitterness. His revelations about his marriage to Caroline Aherne 3 months after she died from cancer was a classless move as well.

[@Forestgravy90]

Possibly he was a control freak to an extent, but Hooky was a very abrasive personality. The way he is behaving now with the whole royalties dispute is very childish imo, and it is pretty telling that Stephen and Gillian are perfectly happy to work with barney nowadays and produced a cracking album together, while Hooky plays Joy division covers with his son and writes books laden with bitterness. His revelations about his marriage to Caroline Aherne 3 months after she died from cancer was a classless move as well.

[@Forestgravy90]

Possibly Bernard was a control freak to an extent, but Hooky was a very abrasive personality. The way he is behaving now with the whole royalties dispute is very childish imo, and it is pretty telling that Stephen and Gillian are perfectly happy to work with barney nowadays and produced a cracking album together, while Hooky plays Joy division covers with his son and writes books laden with bitterness. His revelations about his marriage to Caroline Aherne 3 months after she died from cancer was a classless move as well.

[@pleasureofthegreat]

Well, as Peter Hook basically says in a youtube interview, 'Barney's account of the events are false, mine are true, and if Stephen was not in the band with him and was on his own, Stephen's story would be much like mine.' Stephen never says anything, and never fights with Barney, so why should he mind playing in the band and making easy money? I have read both Peter Hook's book and Bernard's book. I wouldn't say Peter Hook's book is laden with bitterness any more than Barney's is. My impression (I obviously don't know either of them personally), is that Peter gives a factual account of what happened (not just the breakup, but every year of New Order's existence, some really hilarious anecdotes, great details on the recording sessions, etc.), while Bernard only really talks about himself and mentions the others in passing, and writes the book as if it's a work of fiction but true; by that I mean he interjects descriptive language about events which make them seem fabricated. Bernard also implies credit of a LOT of what New Order created. The end of Bernard's book gets really new-age like, while he's trying really hard to convince the reader that he's completely happy (he struggles with depression), and that he only wishes Peter Hook well, while in the meantime slagging him left and right. And for all that Peter Hook complains about Barney in his book, he continually says the Barney was less of a pain than other lead singers he got close to! Not to mentioned Peter Hook refers to Barney as the best guitarist in Manchester (better than Johnny Marr), and a musical genius, but a twat. In fact, if you want to sum up their relationship, from what I got out of the book: Peter and Barney always fought a bit, it was healthy, Barney was a twat and had a controlling personality, Peter Hook got sober late into the production of "Get Ready", and nothing really changed to cause a breakup except that now Bernard was not so easy to take without the booze and drugs and partying, so they split.As for the "modern new order" producing a "cracking album"...New Order hasn't done that since "Power Corruption and Lies". They are so mainstream and formulaic these days it's boring.As for Pete Hook playing covers with his son...if I were a musician, it would be a dream to pass that on to my son and get to play with him live, I do not fault Peter for that at all. And, if you remember when that all started, Bernard said he would never "go back in the catalogue" to play those old songs, but he's doing it now, isn't he?

[@mickdevlin]

And welcome to the sound of young Salford...

[@Sarasapien]

I want to be somewhere else now...I hear this and I feel so out of place in 2019....30 years I’ve reached, and how sweet it would be to go back to this.

[@jelkel25]

It was the same in some respects. You had the big record companies, radio stations, TV trying to keep everything mainstream and commercial as possible. You have it better in some ways. You can access non mainstream music online, go to the bands sites and through specialised digital radio stations there's many more options. On the BBC we had an hour a night of John Peel, some alternative stuff through the 2 Kershaws, occasionally some stuff on late night TV, very occasionally on totp, NME, Sounds, word of mouth or go to the gig. Gate keepers everywhere. It wasn't all better then.

[@Lootcifer96]

"What's New Order: Computer programmers or musicans?" "Bankrobbers" What a counter! I almost can feel how god damn annoying questions like those had to be for MUSICANS like New Order. Even though that kind of discussion were held 40 years ago.

[@freebee8221]

they wanted to do something different. till then most bands had loud guitars playing hard rock and blues with the same pentatonic scales over and over again. this was very fresh at that point in time.

[@ScubaSteveM45]

This is what I miss most about the 80s and its music- even the top stars still dressed like regular folks do!

[@TurtleGamers1]

these were punks, of course they dressed like regular folks you can't forget the indulgence of the glam-rock stars

[@Jetty-xd9yc]

This is awesome brings me back to grade school and going to SeaWorld they have this thing called dancing in the streets during summer. It was the best

[@leephillips2837]

love this version. shocked that I've never seen it before

[@luisparedes5797]

THAT'S A BADD ASS JAM I REMEMBER WREAKING MY DAD'S CAR LISTENING TO THIS JAM HITTING A TREE THINKING IT WAS A TRASH CAN... AND KEEPED ON DRIVING WHEN THE CAR JUST GAVE OUT ... AWESOME MEMORIES

[@fabriziobandiera6648]

1:46 ... the Mac Sound !!! :D

[@petre.w.487]

Bank robbers.....beautiful Barney......has Stephen taken on some of Martin Hannetts mannerism's and ways in his talking about recording ??......just a thought !!

[@philippezsiga1125]

i will kill to have the Emulator I with the emu factory library....so much legendary songs with it...perfect kiss, thieves like us, stripped blade runner main theme eetc etc etc

[@hawksfan8870]

Masterpiece! Absolute masterpiece!

[@freedomflight.]

Stephen is such a damn nerd bro its awesome

[@karenimber8870]

Countdown was a weekly Australian music television show broadcast by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation from 8 November 1974 until 19 July 1987

[@ronanrogers4127]

Yes, but this is Dutch count down...en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countdown_(Dutch_TV_program)

[@HansJazz]

Yep, the Dutch Countdown with Erik de Zwart as the ever annoying host.

[@ConeFlower-gx2qk]

@@ronanrogers4127I thought that was a Dutch accent

[@iamyourfuture808]

sorry about that ... slight problem

[@tommywiseau3696]

Hey don't worry about it fuck you

[@gvomet1]

so young, so close from 1980 ... Thank you for being always threre :-)

[@philippezsiga1125]

i miss a voyetra 8 , un P5 Emulator I and arp quadra to have my complete New Order vintage collection for my covers with my band.... Bernie if u want to help me , u know what u can do for me.....

[@richardbinkhuysen8109]

Presenter in footage: Erik de Zwart

[@sandgrounderinexile0]

Steve taking the piss!!! Really

[@madinabizheva5963]

Ой девачкиии, какой здесь Бернард милый😍😍

[@kriscandy4423]

Реально

[@romanlisyukov6787]

Бернард милашка всегда

[@wade2922]

Ok, who screwed up the intro! Ha!

[@JRRODYY]

bernard just enjoying a nice screwdriver....

[@bryankinney1]

Bernard was a fucking god.

[@symbolic140]

Stephen Morris' interview is great.

[@isaactorres5908]

Best band in the universe

[@victorrodriguez5765]

My favorite New Order song..... greetings of Peru...

[@matiasmoulin2126]

This video is prizeless on so many levels!

[@kidkique]

he always looks flustered

[@iancurtisspectre3744]

thank God for the JD NO dealybop, can't imagine life without them

[@evilotis01]

crazy just hearing that classic New Order sound come out of the Prophet-5 at 1:45

[@citizencairn5230]

You have to wonder how New Order lasted as long as they did with the classic lineup, what with Mr Hook's bass so farcically loud... Stephen and Gillian do all the work as usual

[@nathancruz9172]

2:45 blue Monday is the best song 🎵

[@Azertyvo]

KZbin's automatic subtitle software becomes completely irrelevant when it comes to understanding mancunians. And I love it.

[@Zeropainter420]

This is the coolest thing I have ever seen . I wish I could play with their toys

[@4darin5]

awesome cover! these guys got a lot of talent

[@global_nomad.]

???? what are you on about...cover??? haha.

[@ronaldvanderkleij]

yes, they cover themselves

[@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp]

Bank Robbers No Way! They are magnificent!

[@CaptainRon956]

Reporter...."why 11? why not just 1 thru 10" with 10 being the loudest?. musician..." but this goes to 11"...

[@kevinscharick3174]

Just can't stop... October 2021.

[@littlejohnnyturtle8770]

Sings very well when he isn't pissed up.

[@angztekindustries]

Live electronics had a latency problem but got better later in the decade. Still dig the raw analogue sound.

[@edudeluca]

5:40 the bass line is Envio Morriconi

[@GRUNGELEOPARD]

Yeah that’s how u do it, love!! It means so much to me:)

[@cyprixx]

No mention of Gillian?? Wasn't she the synth person?