Reference Points: Perpetual Calendar Chronographs From Patek Philippe

[@audemarspiguet4237]

To this day, this episode remains one of my all time favourites from Hodinkee. Such quality

[@Reference-ev4nu]

Agree. The best of the best

[@eggymaticremit]

As far as I have seen these are some of the best watches that exist.

[@richplant2205]

Yep and AaS

[@nima0071]

It's not about telling time you wanna tell time use you Cellphone. its heck of a lot cheaper then your 8K rolex. its about workmanship, Art, Complications.

[@joncan2348]

nim nim parvin Besides no quadruple Gyroscoptic Tourbillon can be as precise as an Atomic Clock, which satellite time and mobile phone time are based on.

[@PopBubbleWrappable]

You want phone calls, emails, texts and notifications to follow you around everywhere you go, get a cell phone or a smart watch. You wanna know the time and nothing else, get a mechanical watch.

[@a_single_white_female]

I'd rather get a 10 dollar Casio to tell the time instead of a phone. A phone you have to take out of a pocket and press a button. I watch I can just move my eyes and *look* at.

[@arunashamal]

you can take a plane ride from anywhere on earth and fly to italy and France and see and appreciate workmanship and art for heck of a lot cheaper than these Pateks

[@photohum]

Reference points has to be the most important and fun videos to watch about some of my favorite watches! Bravo!

[@davidofglenbrook4487]

One of the greatest, most consequential, and beautiful watches ever made.

[@Qubeizza]

Thank you so much for this! For someone who is just getting the hang of the watch-world this is pure gold. Might I ask how often you plan on releasing these? Amazing work.

[@dukewheeler7846]

To have a 5970 with the pushers of a 2499 would be a dream come true

[@mr.stogie766]

iam so glad i own a 5711, pateks craftmanship is just insane...im diggin for a 5004..in rose gold.

[@locutusdborg126]

I heard serious collectors are now looking at Invictas.

[@rondj1965]

When pigs fly.

[@locutusdborg126]

Ronnie DJ LOL.

[@lazarcoco7767]

Made my day haha

[@JohnSmith-xq6cv]

dont sleep on there diver for the price 75 dollars for a durable beautiful watch

[@FirdausIsmail1]

Lmao

[@MikeBisney]

It's about time you all posted another vid...nice video!

[@likeris2]

5165, 5146, 5396, 5070, 5074.

[@dk8797]

The only Patek Philippe worth considering as an investment is the 1518 in rose gold. With only 58 pieces produced in this metal, it's still a relatively high number compared to some other references, but given that production ceased in 1954, it's highly unlikely that many remain in perfect condition today. Regarding the 2499, I'm not particularly enthusiastic about this reference. While it is commonly stated that only 349 pieces were made, Patek Philippe has never officially confirmed this number. Credible sources suggest the actual production might be closer to 500 pieces. As for the 3970, it will never be a strong investment piece. The 5004, on the other hand, is an incredible watch and arguably the best-looking of the lot. For years, there has been speculation that its value would skyrocket, and while it has appreciated somewhat, I don't foresee the 5004 ever reaching $1 million. This skepticism stems from reports that Patek produced around 250-300 of them, but I believe the actual number is closer to 500. This includes approximately 300 standard models, 100 in stainless steel, and another 100 "unique pieces" or historical collection pieces for VIP clients. With such a quantity, the 5004 no longer holds the same allure for me. The 5970 is a beautiful watch, but like the 3970, too many were produced for it to be a solid investment. If you're looking for the best Patek Philippe investment and have the necessary capital, the 1518 and 2523 in rose gold are top choices. If you're incredibly fortunate, you might also consider the 1518 in stainless steel, with only four known to exist, or the 1563 split-seconds chronograph, of which only three are known to exist.

[@vernonestesclassics]

Another great video series, keep up the good work. I learn something new with every video.

[@ginge82]

Best watch videos on KZbin. Love those Patek's.

[@brosephstalin561]

Casio F91W for the win.

[@rickj8859]

The key issue here, is that Patek Philippe .. unlike Omega, Rolex, Zenith, JLC ... and many others .... are not vertically integrated outfit. They buy parts and sometimes ebauches from the likes of ETA, modify them and only assemble them in-house. They might be great at hand polishing the parts to a very high degree, but that is "not a watch making". In past, Patek had entire movements made for them by the likes of Jaeger le Coultre and by Girard Perregaux, hence why not buy Jaeger le Coultre in the first place.

[@49fiori]

Everything is about the design. What makes Patek "the best" is that they have the most beautiful watches. You know that the colours Picasso used were not made by him? Also the canvas was not made by him? Also the brushes where not "in-house" he outsourced everything, but what he put together is what counts. It's very similar with watches, Patek Philippe is art. Look, I agree with you, if you really care about the mechanics of the watch, yes, buy a perpetual calendar JLC in stainless steel at unbelievable price. That's a great watch, but, it's not beautiful, like most of the JLCs. Iconic yes, but not beautiful (I have many JLCs) and I have many Pateks, when I put a Patek like 5970 on my wrist I feel like a God, when I put JLC on my hand I feel smart, because few people understand how good those watches really are, but when I look at it, I don't feel the love I get from the Pateks. Same as with ALS and even FP Journe (the closest rival to Patek). Also, to buy all of these watches, it costs money, a lot of money, so you want to make sure that your money is safe. For that reason I buy Patek. Also, I started to buy FP Journe because it's inevitable their prices will go up, probably faster than most of the Pateks today. It's the beauty of the product that counts.

[@GrubblandeGrapplern]

If it is true that Patek doesn't manufacture their own parts, that's a pretty big stink on their name. Doesn't matter if their watches are among the most beautiful in the business. I'm really disappointed if RickJ are right about this.

[@rickj8859]

@49fiori You are a snob. But basically right when saying that Patek make nicely finished watches. Coming back to snobism. It was a while back, when I used to put bi-metal Rolex Daytona on my wrist every time I wanted to test drive the new Ferrari. Purely, because salesman at Maranello asked me silly questions about what I do and what I am driving ... if I wore Omega.

[@rickj8859]

@49fiori I have some 35 watches ... and had couple of manual wind blue dial Patek Elipsis a long, long time ago ... since then, I have progressed a bit, although not in the same direction as you obviously. FP Journe makes beautiful and unique watches, but I am more Breguet, Ulysse Nardin and JLC, or IWC sports watches guy. Although that I do have bit of everything.

[@rickj8859]

@Faustian Funk Look at Lemania movements in last year's manual Omega Speedmaster 1863 (Moonwatch) and compare them to some of Patek Philippe movements. The fabulous Patek CH 2770 movement is Lemania 2310 ... in everything but name. Even their $100,000+ watches use Swatch parts, or entire Swatch movements. Whilst I am not saying that other watchmakers like Breitling, or IWC don't do the same? They don't usually hide it. Half of Swiss watch industry use ETA-Valjoux, or Lemania movements, with add on modules by the likes of Dubois-Depraz. It is only in last few years, that major brands started to produce in-house movements (one type only, in most cases), whilst they still use ETA for majority of their watch models.

[@logwind]

Enjoyed this very much.

[@wysiwyg2489]

What happened at 2:07? The seconds hand stopped at 59?

[@DenisTheMetalHead]

Wtf... I just noticed... That's weirddd

[@collaberatorzseanhuang8952]

: ) That means Matthew Mcconaughey is sending out SOS. He's in trouble in deep space. LOL

[@locutusdborg126]

COLLABERATORZ Ouija Able He is a ghost.

[@SlopedOtter]

They probably only wound the watch a tiny bit to get the video, it simply ran out of wind, these watches all require winding by hand

[@MeBiGn00b]

nice vid. looking forward to more in this series!

[@jezyjean3503]

how many people are subscribed to Hodinkee?

[@miguelschoedel7691]

Stunning

[@todorelojconfernando]

Fabulous work👍👍

[@user-wo7rn3uv4f]

An apartment produces at least 5%/year in rent and another 5% (min) in value. I have 5 replicas - 2 Pateks (1 a complication), Rolex, Breitling and a Cartier. About US1K each. Everyone says -"Great watch you have there, expensive eh?". Yes I say. "This one (the complicated Patek) I bought when I made the 1st million". Been making anywhere from 500k to 1M every year for the last 5 years trading sovereign bond futures. 😅🤣😂

[@nsebast]

Yep, that's the best watches allright. I will collect them once I hit 50s

[@emanmatahelang1027]

Can it wear with nato strap?

[@HoperehabcenterthailandAsia]

best comment

[@brunorehder4250]

*That’s like 15 million worth of watches*

[@vincent5]

Nope. More like 3 million

[@josephadas41]

isn't the 1518 case 35mm in diameter not 36mm?

[@Reference-ev4nu]

Yes 35mm

[@rayansailani4465]

This guy's voice is soo deeeeep.. He should be into podcasts.

[@richardstevens8839]

Could we have Omega, Longines, Vacheron, JLC, Oris

[@rickj8859]

If you want the best, you buy Jaeger le Coultre, or IWC perpetual 100 year calendar watches ... and not Patek with 1 year perpetual (?) calendar ... after all it was Patek, who used to use Jaeger (as well as Lemania, Girard Perregaux and others) movements ... and not vice versa.

[@claudioalejandrosantislara2597]

Patek Phillipe. No es un reloj Cronografo. Es una obra de Arte. El puzon de Ginebra

[@chrischang3924]

Perpetual Calendar Day!

[@waldoalexramosbenavente6729]

great video ,

[@titor8017]

This is just awesomeness

[@highnrising]

I bet the typical owner of one of these Patek perp calendar chronographs brings the watch back to the store whenever he needs to set it. Unless he has a 13-year-old nephew whom he trusts to set it for him.

[@PandaPower3195]

Can someone explain to me why the 5970 is so iconic? I understand that its gorgeous but whats more to it? Im very curious!!!

[@locutusdborg126]

PandaPower3195 I prefer the 5070, which lacks the day and date but looks more elegant.

[@shanehau9572]

+PandaPower3195 It's sort of a tribute to the 1518, the first perpetual calendar chronograph patek ever made, so i guess it's sort of special in the lineage that way. My fav is the 5204 though, which is not in this video.

[@PandaPower3195]

Oh thats actually pretty cool, thank you for explaining that. I'm particularly in love with the 1463!

[@Spudst3r]

Why do I need the month on my watch?

[@TheCls63]

Why would you beed the Moon Phase on the watch? Right? Its just to show the craftsmanship and complication.

[@NukeProofSuit]

+Spuds7er Why are you watching this video?

[@ShaheenJadidi]

+Spuds7er Why?

[@tylero8595]

Because you can.

[@Spudst3r]

Will be really handy when I get abducted by aliens I guess.

[@ryanburbridge]

What happened to the chrono second at 2:02 it just slows and stops?

[@GRAFHC]

If you watch the seconds hand at 9 o'clock, it appears to strike the hour hand and jam the train. This forces the watch to stop the transfer of energy.

[@rondj1965]

GRAFHC Not something you would want to see in a watch of this magnitude.

[@HoperehabcenterthailandAsia]

Dear Gentlemen the closest I can get to anything like these are my collection of 4 mint Omega Cosmic moon phase triple dates in various sizes and metals however they feel shpitsy to me - I have promised myself to start with Patek next year, still got a few more Rolie to get

[@Mirceabalea]

2499 is the best watch ever made :D

[@lukes6134]

Beautiful

[@oraziomora8632]

Grande !!👍👍

[@SP-pn7xx]

5270 is the best IMO (not in this video)

[@Madmax-fm7mh]

I have a casio XD

[@bojabang2188]

Big tie.

[@rashad123us]

Arabic numerals are actually Hindu-Arabic numerals. It urks me every time someone calls them arabic numerals.

[@gasb911]

The ones on the watch are Arabic numerals not Hindu-Arabic numerals

[@rashad123us]

***** They're actually the same thing, except one name fails to credit Hindus en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals

[@granthart7120]

Peep peep little bird.

[@watchguy79]

Arabic numerals

[@Rancid_Ziggy]

What a stupid thing to be upset about

[@الاملالمنشودالغريب]

How much price in $

[@hazelguilas815]

I have a Patek phillipe and I got it for $10 at the garage sale.

[@simpleme1279]

i would luv to buy every day one of it ...

[@MrPasqual1]

200 bucks each!? I take them all!

[@veevee9015]

How much

[@r.k4895]

1:54

[@qris4165]

One day, I promise!

[@fernandomelgar748]

there very nice watches, but not many people can afford this:/

[@CokeWithIceAndLemon]

the shpitz indeed!

[@jw999]

The end of the road!!!

[@satanstrilogy2288]

Wow!

[@nyc2malibu]

if only ....but ya never know !

[@aloyzaselytezalimai7601]

Noreciau pirkti. kiek kainuoja

[@JohnSmith-xq6cv]

one day

[@Daijobustory]

nearly 2 mil in one tray.

[@tryitout-701]

Daijobustory a lot more than that

[@blackjesus9641]

uncut jams

[@andrewvillanueva4222]

l have a Rolex submarine gilt dial 5513

[@benedictyarahmadi4428]

SAINT MICHAEL TIME WACH

[@alfonsofranco1984]

SUS ESCUELAS MUY SEGURAS Y CENTROS COMERCIALES EXENTAS DE BALASTRAS VERDAD !!!!!!! .

[@eustab.anas-mann9510]

Oyyyy veyyyyy

[@theRealAV8r]

patek rolex patek patek rolex patek patek patek rolex patek.... ...what about TIMEX?????!!!

[@locutusdborg126]

theRealAV8r What about Invicta?

[@2deep5u]

This is a shitter free zone! Shoo shoo!

[@worththewatch1517]

Is the guy on the right a Jew ?

[@yossifelder6775]

Yes

[@akakinarmania7566]

Sure 🤣🤣

[@joeyalfaro2323]

They look like some crap you'd by at flee market. Never use gator or alligator strap. Trust me they skin things then throw body's to their buddy's.

[@NextcoreProgramming]

For slave owners, not slaves. Beautiful

[@sniparr9474]

All I heard was "Well yes Ben they do all look the same and are incredibly overpriced"

[@JR-hi9bu]

Good one Toby! Very funny! Hahaha! That was me laughing! I wanted to indicate that I was laughing in real life! Hahaha! I did it again! Hahaha! I don't know what's come over me! Hahaha! Hahaha! Hahaha!

[@sany853]

🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@shafserious2805]

Jews not allowed to wear gold! not good.

[@JohnSmith-xq6cv]

Just Muslims I thought

[@willsmith1170]

You’re mistaken. Some Muslim sects don’t wear gold, jews and cristians can wear gold if they want.

[@yktam007]

Cheating

[@nintendokings]

Of course its a Jew owning a store like this lol

[@zobayedhassain5302]

Jews ✡ ?

[@akakinarmania7566]

Sure 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bonkersblock]

i'll stick with my ROLEX! if you can tell time on a watch that 200 grand? you can tell time on a watch that is 8 grand!!

[@gabrielkeenan]

Well, good for you that you have one and spent 8 grand in it, Rolexes are fantastic watches. But the point of this video is not just "telling time", it's about one of the the best complications ever made.

[@jaime4022]

Jude Francis Ballares : ... Your point being? Your comment makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Unless its sole purpose was that of telling the world that you own a Rolex? By your own logic, we could also argue that other people might stick to their timex and Invicta watches, because if you can tell time on one of those, then you don't need the 8,000.00 Rolex. Someone saying something like that here, would be every bit as unnecessary and nonsensical as your remark is. All this being said, did you not watch the video and noticed that these are perpetual calendars, and as such, they give more information than what you could gather from a regular three hand watch as most Rolex are? Do you understand what a perpetual calendar is? A mechanical watch that will give you the correct time, day, date, and year (some of which, as presented here, also have a chronograph function) without having to adjust them until around the year 2100? All this from a mechanical instrument? What comparison is it you are even trying to make here?

[@haruyamagucci4622]

*That's what a seiko owner once said about my Rolex. To each his own! Cheers from Bangor, Maine where recreational marijuana is absolutely legal and home prices are some of the lowest in the entire nation.*

[@g0uki69]

Why does the 5970P not have a deployment?

[@rondj1965]

To keep the price down? JK!