We Opened Up A FAKE Patek Philippe Nautilus | This Replica 5712 is INSANE!

[@k.s.8959]

I love that nobody mentions the typo "Quality Contral" on the Box - all eyes on details, font type etc. 🤭

[@appleman29]

lol right, that was the first thing I noticed on the box

[@J-dl3ey]

Have you seen the 2 marker on the authentic that is completely wrong by Patek?

[@mandimandi2523]

yeah, he overlooked it even he magnified it.....

[@marcusrobinson9816]

​@@appleman29❤❤

[@juxtaplay]

This is in fact why we zoomed in on it in the video!

[@MrBlackiichan]

There is no way the authentic one - at a price of like $77,000 MSRP AUD - has the WRONG marker at 2 o’clock position…. Haha that’s insane!! Note the replica got it right 😂

[@InXLsisDeo]

Perhaps this defect was done on purpose, in order to recognize original ones from copies ?

[@GlutenEruption]

@@InXLsisDeo​​⁠​⁠ no, look at any pictures, he’s right. That’s definitely a 1 or 10 o’clock marker by mistake

[@robertbrandywine]

Can you explain? Aren't all the markers the same?

[@arcadely]

@@robertbrandywine No, look at the chapter ring end of the 10, 11, 1 and 2 markers. They're cut at an angle. The marker at 2 o'clock is clearly a marker for one of the other positions, that required a cut at the opposite angle, like 10 o'clock or 1 o'clock. It's extraordinary that this would be incorrect on a watch at this price point.

[@robertbrandywine]

Thanks, I see the pattern now. @@arcadely

[@simonassouline1230]

Your details and pinpoint differences on Real vs Fake, is top notch!

[@juxtaplay]

Thank you! We will always try to be objective about it.

[@swiftusmaximus5651]

11:00 if they are selling it now for $1000, they could make a perfect clone for $3-4000

[@blackjack8838]

What is the forking point of this expensive watches, beside to use as an uncomfortable jewelry? We all have phones where you can get all the time)) can anyone explain?)) I get expensive cars, houses, paintings that can influence the mood o r just things that we use everyday , but watch?))why ?))

[@twiki1963]

if you have to ask, then you’ll likely never understand why.

[@blackjack8838]

@twiki1963 don't play philosopher diklove! if can't explain don't reply

[@sqfanatic]

if it takes "high magnification" to identify a $500 replica, then the $50K original is way over-priced.

[@tmezan]

look original...2nd marker top right corner is wrong one hahahahahaaha checkkk:D

[@derek24211]

this is the first video ive seen of this channel, I'm loving it so far. keep it up! 👌

[@juxtaplay]

Thank you! Check out our others!

[@GeraldDonovan]

I think it's wonderful how you create these educational videos for the replica manufacturers so that they know where to focus on their product development.

[@juxtaplay]

Let's not forget they have the authentic watch in their possession. We do this to educate people so they know what to look for. The replica industry will thrive with or without our video production.

[@GeraldDonovan]

@@juxtaplay Having the authentic watch in their possession and knowing where they need to make improvements and what to prioritise are not the same thing. I have witnessed this kind of thing personally where following my publicly highlighting issues with faked dials on vintage watches, 18-24 months down the line the people replicating the original dials have addressed every single issue that I raised. As an aside, you'd be surprised how difficult it can be - particularly for those for whom the "English"/"Western" alphabet is not their native one - to duplicate fonts perfectly. There are several issues with the fonts here also of course, although frankly in this instance it's interesting to note that the printing of the dates is objectively of higher quality on the fake watch than the original. Regardless of whatever your honourable intentions are with videos like this one, what you have actually created is probably the best possible advert and publicity for the replica manufacturers that they could ever hope for, whilst at the same time giving them clear and specific instructions on how to improve their product.

[@followyourpassion8378]

You are missing the point. The video really helps promoting the clone. If they can produce at this level, they don't need any pointers. They only need to bring the price down.

[@GeraldDonovan]

@@followyourpassion8378 Nah, I'm not missing the point at all. Maybe spend some time looking at how the rep factories have been improving their product over the last decade, and then come back and state that you reckon they're happy now and will just stop. But do enjoy the little fantasy world that you inhabit, it sounds lovely.

[@anthonyw7237]

If they made a perfect watch they could sell each person one. By correcting mistakes and improving them by "fixing" the mistakes they can sell each person 2 or 3 per year. Smart business

[@kaixokaleabilbao2770]

If replicas are so good at a considerable lower value, that actually means that the authentic product might be overvalued. If a replica of a Ferrari manages to be 90% identical to a Ferrari at a 10% of its price that would mean that buying a Ferrari is not worth it.

[@twowheellatte]

You definitely pay premium for the original Ferrari or Rolex, but I wouldn't buy a fake Ferrari out of fear that a cost-cutting part or subpar weld would fail at a critical moment. When you buy the real thing you also buy the peace of mind that comes with the brand.

[@Chris-xl6pd]

@@twowheellatte "peace of mind that comes with the brand" How to tell me youve never driven a ferrari without saying it. Enzo hated his customers and that ethos is still part of the brand, they are not well made cars.

[@paulinthailand]

a ferrari couldnt be replicated, it would cost too much. i drive a ferrari. i have a few supercars all are amazing but not all are ferrari. an amg gtr is better every place than a ferrari but its still not a ferrari.

[@MrMadvillan]

that’s some twisted logic buddy. the value is the value - what the next guy is willing to pay for it. if someone tries to sell an inauthentic PP he’s either going to lose his shirt or commit a crime - that’s the “value” of a replica. maybe you’re confusing financial value with some sort of utility.

[@Tom-lh2ki]

Wells said, and we all agree its not worth it in the first place hahah

[@1BergerVongSchlauigkeitHer]

I love that you don't remove spam comments. Really speaks to the quality of the channel.

[@craggerrs]

@@alltheusernameswastaken8936 sarcasm

[@1BergerVongSchlauigkeitHer]

@@alltheusernameswastaken8936 Thank you.

[@JeffreyBenzodiazepines]

Yep, that's how you know KZbin and KZbinrs' priorities are in the right place

[@Outdoorshuntingshooting]

Like weeds, you kill one another one appears.

[@impyrobot]

@@Outdoorshuntingshooting you can make a rule to remove all comments with the term patekanium (or whatever branding the scam is using) and already most are gone

[@michaellau2544]

Finishing and print quality looks at times looks better in the replica when you do the side by side comparison. Amazing!😮

[@gijsbraakhuis]

I bought my 70 year old dad a Nautilus replica for christmas... he has no idea what it is. Every now and then he gets people saying that "hes wearing a very nice watch" lol.

[@Alpine_Joe]

@@gijsbraakhuis I bought my dad a 3 pack of socks from Tesco for Christmas. They're really nice too.

[@bodz9408]

@@gijsbraakhuisExactly no one would even think fake because they might he bought it or you because your old enough to atleast save money.

[@beowoulf355]

When you consider the real one costs $130K plus and the super replica $800, the quality is crazy.

[@TrumpsEarBandage]

Just proves how inflated the prices are

[@jjefferyworboys8138]

True, but unless you have all the other things that go with the lifestyle, why advertise that your life didn't turn out the way you had hoped it would. A friend had a fake rose gold Cartier he wore for business meetings and drove a new convertible Bentley. No one thought his watch was a fake, why would they ?

[@LeMarsouin9]

​@@TrumpsEarBandage when you have to develop your movement and not copy it of course it's not gonna be 800€. Not to mention the materials that are absolute crap on the fake

[@bongkem2723]

@@LeMarsouin9 material and movement is dirt cheap with today's tech and resources, chinese brands already made super complicated movement, Seagull for example made tourbillon, minute repeater... for sub 1k$ on their own (not replicating anyone). They copy this movement just because of the brand name and that's also the only thing hyped up the real watch.

[@MrBlackiichan]

Only the watch geeks would spot this anomaly - 99% of people have no idea. Plus personally, if someone knew it was a fake and judged me harshly for it, so be it, no water on my back man I just love the design! Plus the complications are fully functioning! which other brand can offer that for around $1,000? Its a tricky topic for sure @@jjefferyworboys8138

[@Didi22206]

I need the link for the replica,such a beauty

[@Kfc_Manager0]

Did u find it?

[@gregmather3343]

I'd like it as well.

[@sweatiegonzalez9732]

I wonder if the owner of the real 5712 will ask Patek to replace his incorrect 2 marker... Interestingly, I have the latest version from PPF and my calipers show it to be slightly less than 9mm thick. My calipers only show 0.1mm accuracy so I can't tell exactly to the 100th mm. The logo on the bracelet also appears to be much better quality than the one you showed. The biggest tells for me are the regulator, the shallow engraving (it appears to be laser etched) and the relatively light winding weight. In any case it is a gorgeous watch. I just don't wear it, even in the house. I have a strong feeling these factories are leaving obvious tells on purpose as some kind of plausible deniability, so they can say "we're making replicas for people to use as decoys or try-ons, not trying to pass them off as real".

[@Reyone13]

@FBI

[@robertbrandywine]

It couldn't cost much extra to duplicate the weight of the rotor.

[@erichood3169]

Its gold ​@robertbrandywine

[@ScienceBitch123]

Nobody cares about plausible deniability in China, and regardless these extremely small details are not plausible in court

[@christianbottger493]

​@robertbrandywine but it would... the form is fixed, the volume is fixed, so it's up to the density (weight per volume) of the material. Gold is much denser/heavier than brass and much denser than nearly any other metal (apart from Osmium, Uranium e.g.). They can't compensate by putting more material in because there is simply no room for more... so in this case there is a real mechanical reason to use gold.

[@cedarcanoe]

Clone factories can deliver the same dial colour of course (nothing hard about that) but they typically do not deliver the exact same dial because they also want to sell v.2, v.3 etc of their clones

[@dylvasey]

Really good point. Never thought of it that way.

[@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549]

That implies there are only a limited number of customers, I don’t think that is the case, at all.

[@irtnyc]

​@@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549Somebody didn't pass microeconomics apparently.

[@Ps5prolite]

Yes. This is an important point

[@archiegoodwinjr]

This is the first time I clicked on Wristcheck and I want to see more. I am impressed by the even tone of presentation, the clarity of the images, the studio environment. I also appreciate that the presenter did not judge the replica. After I (with a genuine Patek) was attacked on the street I thought of buying replicas of my daily watches to wear. Then I realized I might be attacked for a replica that looked too authentic. The prospect of being attacked and injured for wearing a $1k watch as opposed to a $100k watch put my situation in perspective. I got a fancy G-Shock but have not lived happily ever after. The G-Shock was very UNcomfortable (not well balanced, hurt my wrist, caught my jacket cuff, hard to read, clunky thing to unstrap).

[@USMCAllTheWay]

Sir, sorry to hear that you were attacked for your watch. Would you mind sharing the city were the event occurred? Thank you

[@KatarinaJovanovic-jq3ig]

If you can buy Patek... Why do you live where you can realistically be attacked *(for anything)

[@LoopHole20]

Anyone else see that the ‘real’ Patek’s 2 marker appears to be a bodge job. Looks like they picked up a 10 marker from the parts bin and just slapped it on.

[@jonathancorbett7882]

This is hilarious. A guy discussing microscopic dust particles and small imperfections on the hands that aren't visible to the naked eye, but he misses the fact that not the correct indices were applied?! 🤦🏼‍♀🤦🏻‍♂🤦🏽 Since, as he claims, the watch hasn't been opened since it left the factory, this really goes to show how fantastic Patek's QC is.

[@mrpoopoo888]

​@@jonathancorbett7882 If the claim the watch hasn't been opened, then it's definitely a cause to return the watch. That said though, some might find it a "quirk" and actually value the watch higher.

[@wristwatch-trader7237]

Pretty unlucky for the content creator here. His point remains, but the reality is he just grabbed a used/scratched OEM to work with and wouldn't really know its history. It's also worth pointing out that *no one* is perfect, not even the demi-Gods of watchmaking. Glad you were able to identify and point this out - good stuff!!

[@ZesPak]

That's a good spot! Can't unsee it now you mention it.

[@PeterWatchmakerWristcheck]

@@jonathancorbett7882 Super important to differentiate the difference in cleanliness and continuity here. The "quality" is not compromised because of an incorrectly applied index. Goes to show that what they say must be true! No one is perfect. Neither Patek nor myself. But it is all in the details. Thanks for the criticism here. Mistakes can be a good catalyst for improvement.

[@MrAaronkoshy]

Great video but you missed a big section. How does the movement/accuracy of the fake compare with the real thing?

[@DonRaynor]

with that level of craftmanship, I wish the replicamaker would just make their own brand and design.

[@kaidevir]

I know one of the engineers who works in the replica supply chain. The truth is, they do have their own brand in China and no one wants them. For the whole supply chain to survive and to feed everyone, they decided to take the risks and make budget replicas underground. In fact, they offered special add-on options to make 5712, 5711, 5167 and etc to make your replica even close to a gen one. It's crazy to see with your own eyes how close those super replicas can be.

[@starlite528]

not just the color of the moon phase, but the ragged edges of the print and the speckling.

[@rustyneuron]

Yes, that's what I was going to say; its "fuzzy".

[@bobbytirlea]

What really bothered me from the very start, was not the color of the replica's moon phase, but the painted stars on it are really blatantly executed. They are chunkier, whereas on the genuine one can clearly see how crisp and defined all of the stars" edges are! Captivating breakdown, thank you!

[@obcane3072]

You good with the upside 2 o'clock indice?

[@obcane3072]

1:06 is that a scratch on the watch at 5 oclock? I thought it was just opened? And the 2 oclock indice is upside down.

[@TheBugkillah]

If I saw that real box with the real watch, I’d question the watch.

[@kardush]

That proves to me that Patek is about watches, not boxes.

[@juxtaplay]

This is just a temp box for it to be stored at the AD. Their boxes are wood and very high quality. Next time we will compare the wooden boxes.

[@InXLsisDeo]

I checked the price: 50,000€. This has to be a joke. In Asia, you have wooden boxes lined with silk or flanel for items selling less than 100€.

[@ykx777]

it's not a joke the watches are extremely high quality @@InXLsisDeo

[@roduhsanga4664]

I have been wearing replica watches for 30 years now, yet I have not any complaint till now. In a modern world, no one wants to wear the same watch forever. There is no need to spend huge amount just to tell the time.

[@Lonnie91a]

They can replica anything. Take it apart and laser scan it. They have to make them for the price point they are aiming for prob $500 wholesale. Gotta admit that’s crazy for $500. Imagine if their budget was $1000 or $1500 per watch. It would be exact. Scary.

[@swiftusmaximus5651]

or is it those Swiss ock uckers are just grossly way overcharging for theyre product?

[@carlad2640]

​@@swiftusmaximus5651They're obviously charging extra because they can, however the fakers dont have to spend on a designer, R&D and years of advertising and building the brand. Theres a reason they're faking these watches instead of putting their own brand on it.

[@swiftusmaximus5651]

@@carlad2640 So all that makes a $ 5-6000 watch cost $50-60 K.

[@seanmartin6227]

Maybe, maybe not, but why do you care? They can charge what they want and if people buy it then they're not out of the market. @swiftusmaximus5651

[@johnsaltzohuigin6660]

If they had half a brain they would just create their own brand. And sell for more as an original. The minor deviation alter the patent.

[@sigma_z]

Where did you even get this replica? It's quite good and would be interesting to see first hand.

[@aronhikisch5753]

The original dial is defective! The 2 o'clock index peaks in the wrong direction, it should peak upwards, as does the 10 o'clock index!

[@joaopepa]

Goos spot

[@juxtaplay]

Yes maybe they can sell this one at auction for a high value... These small mistakes are due to their immense pressure to meet demand but does not compromise the overall quality in terms of cleanliness or precision.

[@wristwatch-trader7237]

@@juxtaplay You could always "manufacture" this mistake if you wanted to, so I don't see the value being higher.

[@RAJohnson713]

How the hell did they miss that?

[@InXLsisDeo]

That's what 50,000€ buys you. As well as a crap box.

[@paolo7688]

Looks brilliant that replica, where can I get one?

[@James-iw3dw]

who makes the best replicas?

[@dsouza8015]

I love these replica videos, I'm really learning a lot about watches from them. Would love to see an comparison with an Explorer or Datejust!

[@juxtaplay]

We will continue to nerd out on this stuff! The technical bits are fun and important. Glad to hear you enjoy it.

[@chadvondra]

@@juxtaplay the new Clean factory Explorer 40mm would be very interesting to see a comparison on. Rumor has it is very very close to gen.

[@ohger1]

As someone who would never own either a copy or a real Patek (I could easily though), I'm amazed that the best way to tell this is a fake is have a $50K example handy with which to compare it as well as the knowledge to see the tiny differences. For the person who would want a copy, this watch will pass any "bar" test - even a jeweler couldn't tell this is a fake if he was looking at it on someone else's wrist. I honestly can't believe there's that big a market for these that it's worth the effort to set up a facility to replicate something as complicated as the movement itself. Strange times.

[@kyo86sg]

Thanks for this, going to order in the Rep shortly. 80 to 90% is good enough for me. 😂

[@escapednpc60]

90% likeness at 2% of the cost its a tough choice. Especially if you want to wear it daily.

[@connercollins1450]

do you know where to get a good rep?

[@squidballs101]

Where can I get these? Haha

[@escapednpc60]

@@squidballs101 just do a Web search for Super clone

[@akeyasa2228]

Why bother?

[@BonGrips]

I imagine the guys running the counterfeit shop are very pleased you made this video lol

[@Omega08082]

The crazy thing is that this replica can come with a free spring balance wheel and a laser engraved movement for a total cost of $3200. And of course, it is with a fully functional power reserve.

[@PeterWatchmakerWristcheck]

We have yet to see a free-sprung balance on a replica. It's not saying they can't do it but the price of the watch must remain within reach for those interested in the replicas.

[@cedarcanoe]

@@PeterWatchmakerWristcheck indeed, and $1000 is already pushing boundaries. I am afraid we will see hi-end fakes costing several thousands in the near future. The technology is there (reverse-engineering, CNC) as well as the market if the hi-horology brands keep treating prospect buyers disrespectfully.

[@filthyminges]

​@@eugo6100where ?

[@PeterWatchmakerWristcheck]

@@cedarcanoe I would bet we won't see high-end fakes like you're referring to. It's not in their interest to make such watches. The costs are too high and the buyers are too few. They have realised the largest market for "super clones" (they're not super at all) is $500-$800 USD. Closest thing we will see is individuals making super franken clones which we already see.

[@TheCorrectionist1984]

But where can you even buy these? You gotta go to China right?

[@gelinrefira]

At this level of competence, it is obvious that the replicas maker can make the exact same quality as the original maker. The only problem is they don't have the same prestige so they can't sell at that price to justify the same level of quality control and embellishment. It also proves that whoever made the replicas already have a strong technical knowledge of high quality watch movements and they will also able to create their own unique movements if they have the money to pour into R&D. There is no way the people who reverse engineered these movements do not have ideas of their own. The only reason why Swiss watches are still selling at such high price is the prestige and branding, not because their technology or capability to create new movements are unsurpassable.

[@virtualcircuit]

Exactly next step is for replica company's to launch their own modern designs.

[@ListenToPowerViolence]

I love these comparison videos. Fakes are fascinating.

[@nomorenonsense]

Read a lot of comments and found it funny people talking about ethics and these fake watches being made in poor working conditions. Highly suggest you look at conditions for workers making your cellphones. Also conditions it takes to get the raw materials for your phones. Ignorance is bliss right 👀

[@offroadfreak8582]

Quality video mate! I love the technical details!

[@juxtaplay]

I won't hold back on the technical bits! It seems many people want to get nerdy with it. Challenge accepted.

[@AVstunnz]

please keep doing real vs fake. best series ever! would love to see mk2 pepsi and hulk (:

[@PeterWatchmakerWristcheck]

Wholesome! Thank you. We plan to do more! Good recommendations.

[@neilmartin6397]

Love your videos man! Please keep this type of content. The watch world needs you!

[@PeterWatchmakerWristcheck]

Thank you! A lot of people come together to make these videos possible. We will keep them coming!

[@charlesjmouse]

When it comes to things like this, what is the real difference between the replica and the original? The willingness of the buyer to pay an unreasonable amount of money to be able to say "I've got something you can't afford", while the owner of the replica got much the same thing... and of course anyone honest would buy either simply because they like it.

[@NANA-gy7yx]

I'm so convinced to buy a replica now! Thanks, bud!

[@thebrickshooter5974]

just don't. You're buying from criminals just so you can showboat what you don't have. Not to mention that the watch was produced with very bad working conditions.

[@kgbcorvette]

Not everyone has $88.000 to buy a stupid watch!! @@thebrickshooter5974

[@malcombe7001]

No pay the inflated price. Actually, if you want a new one, you're not allowed to look in the window, let alone go in the shop. Trinkets for people with more money than sense. Its a sad world, two of these watches could house a family, but they'd rather wear it on their wrist, its actually revolting.

[@malcombe7001]

​@@thebrickshooter5974 200 x more, whoes the criminal?

[@NANA-gy7yx]

@@thebrickshooter5974 criminals? How so?

[@Karlemilstorm]

Looking at the authentic watch at 0:35. To me it looks like the indicator for 2 o clock is turned the worng way around. It does not fit with the shape of the bezel like the other indicators do. The replica has this the "right" way around in my opinion

[@rickliners6123]

In today's environment, the moral of the story is: only buy from AD. It's just too risky to buy from secondary market. If I'm spending 30k-40k for a watch I would just have to demand that a guy like Peter meet with me, open the watch in front of me, and show me all the indicators the watch is authentic. For an experienced watchmaker it might take 30 mins but, justified for a customer ready to drop 5 figures on an item. I've had instances where I spent 4-5 hours before I could walk away after buying a car. Why not a watch? You can also do it remotely, over TEAMS video or facetime for out of state buyers. It's not that you do not trust the dealer, it's that even dealers can be fooled.

[@juxtaplay]

That's why we do what we do! We authenticate every watch in front of the client if they wish as you mentioned. This transparency is the only way the secondary market can feel "safe." Of course we find things that make us uneasy but those watches never make it to consignment. Very few secondary dealers actually have a watchmaker/authenticator with enough experience to inspect all of the watches.

[@robertbrandywine]

Any watch enthusiast could tell it was a fake 5 seconds after opening it.

[@club2119]

AD sales only give you an arrogant face while replieca sales talke to you how mcuh effort and technic they try to reach and super friendly

[@wallynocker]

excellent video, very cool..... why have I never heard of wristcheck ? .... I'm a fan, subscribed !!

[@drhadifodil3001]

We all know that it's impossible to obtain this type of model from an authorized dealer, and because the super clones are becoming more and more sophisticated and closer to the authentic ones, I no longer buy from the grey market, even if it's a trusted dealer. Thank you for your encouraging video, and it's a pity that timepiece enthusiasts are penalized in this way.

[@classicsciencefictionhorro1665]

Same.

[@obcane3072]

This seems to be an advert for super clone reps. 😳

[@UncleDoug]

One glaring difference between real and fake was revealed at 9:45. The word "Control" is misspelled on the fake. This would be an excellent tip-off without even opening the box.

[@stevemundie8495]

These fakes are INCREDIBLY GOOD for the price. Most of the comparison on the outside was done with MAGNIFICATION i.e cannot be seen with the naked eye. Fakes can also be "improved". 99.9% of the population could not tell the difference especially if they are not side by side with a real one and without magnification.

[@crooked-halo]

That justification for purchase at the end hit home. People can't afford the real thing & buy a fake. I bought a fake Rolex on the street in Mexico City in the early 1990s for around $50. I'm not into Rolex (except the $250k one I inherited), but fake Rolex were/are a popular thing on Mexican streets & I wanted to buy one for fun, as a souvenir. My fake Rolex worked perfectly, kept accurate time & looked great. I often got compliments on it. About 10 years later I gave it to a friend who really liked it & knew about it. This was a great watch & fun for me since I bought it on a Mexico City sidewalk.

[@Pick3Lotto]

so where is the best place to buy the replica

[@philiprobinson3160]

Exactly, what is the point of saying how good the replica is if only they can get their hands on one.

[@claytonstokes8655]

I know all about purchasing a fake. My wife bought it for $200.00 under the table purchase was just to good to be true. The watch itself is stunning, I love the look, and I am very happy with it nonetheless. We found out it was not “real” when I tried to register the watch. I started to notice the difference between the side buttons, and then the number did not work. I was at first worried that it might have been stolen. Happy it’s a fake and not stolen.

[@RobertGrant80]

you really think your wife got one of these for 200 dollars?! LOL

[@claytonstokes8655]

@@RobertGrant80 a fake one, yes. I don’t think I would even purchase a real one ($195,000) if I won the lottery!

[@TheChugelfish]

@@claytonstokes8655 you dont have the fake from the video bro

[@StrikeTheRoot]

as an owner of a replica Patek. I make no apologies. I own many affordable genuine watches, but I wanted unobtanium. and I got it. I'm literally wearing it now and it looks great. Don't care if it's fake.

[@jakekaywell5972]

In that case, you're a fake person as well. Unobtainum should be left unobtainium unless you actually have the cash to splash for it.

[@mouhalo]

@@jakekaywell5972anything over 10k is just rip of and artificial unobtainium. He is not fake he is realistic

[@Markg2k10]

Out of interest, what did the fake Patek set you back?

[@cihadaliozturk]

Where did you buy it bro? Can you give me a trusted dealer website?

[@felizmurillo2121]

I really liked the video, a thorough comparison with details that at first glance one can ignore is appreciated...

[@richardwarren4830]

As AI progresses it will, in a short time, be virtually impossible to tell real from fake probably to the extent that the distinction becomes blurred. Did you ever see the film Blade Runner based on the Philip K Dick novel ‘Do Androids dream of Electric Sheep?’ Basis of the story is the technology has been developed to produce replica human beings (Replicants) indistinguishable from real people. Far fetched? I wonder.

[@peterRobinson10101]

Your right. But as blockchain develops it will ensure authenticity. You will simply scan your friends watch band at the bar... and this will confirm that the Watche and ita corresponding NFT is unique and registered.... of course the private key is stored at home in a safe. When sold on fhe aftermarket Patek is notified and a new private key NFT is issued to the new buyer. This tech is here now and will be mainstream within the next few years.

[@ultramagnus7842]

I absolutely do like this content and I have subscribed. Thank you for sharing.

[@TwinShards]

As so long the fake can keep track of time just like the original, gimme the fake one. Then i'll be able to engrave on the back a nasty comment for whoever end up robbing me :D

[@SnazzyZubloids]

9:45 box on the right: How in the hell do you possibly botch the spelling of "Quality Control?!" I'm in awe that this slipped past them.

[@PeterWatchmakerWristcheck]

Don't forget most of them don't speak or read english so they are copying which leads to mistakes.

[@InXLsisDeo]

What this proves is, swiss watches are completely overpriced for what they are. It is possible to make identical watches for 50 times cheaper. It's not a surprise, considering they are considered and marketed as luxury items, but let's not pretend that their price is justified by their technology, superior quality or labor cost. It is not. On another note, I am extremely underwhelmed by the box that contains a 50k€ watch, especially when you see so much better wooden gift boxes for products that cost less than 100€ in Asia. I would say it's a dead giveaway of the real cost of the watch.

[@YTAlnyc]

I just found your channel and this is great One more thing you did not mention but that stands out to my eye is that on the moon dial the moon and the stars on the fake watch are not as sharp as on the real watch. Noticed that right away.

[@markheywood5626]

It amazes me the original one is in a cheap box that’s shocking

[@cc8530]

I know what you mean, but in reality once you open the box, you’ll never see it again, unless you wear the box on your head, boxhead

[@markheywood5626]

@@cc8530I have an Omega Seamaster 300. When I don't wear it I put it in the box with the lid open to display it.

[@johannakamstra-schickendan7380]

That’s not the box you get when you buy the real ones, I have seen one and they are very high quality

[@TweezerWieldingLunatic]

11:29 Going to quote Peter Glomb with this one a lot (including the laugh). 💪🏼😎

[@PeterWatchmakerWristcheck]

Sorry my inner Kawhi Leonard was showing there.

[@randyvfromtheperch]

Excellent review. I've SUB'd due to your in-depth and sophisticated overview. .

[@juxtaplay]

Thank you!

[@jesush.vazquez6851]

I have to check this myself, where can I get the copy one te make my own review 🤪

[@1990HondaEFHatch]

Love the series man. So what I took away from this is they are achieving 85% of the quality externally with a price of 1000 dollars lmao. Issue is they will only get better.

[@WestCoastAce27]

Cheap labor? 0 marketing cost?

[@floridaboybrandon954]

@@WestCoastAce27cheap labor yes , $0 marketing cost not necessarily. They have marketing pages on Reddit where they explain which factory , which upgrades are coming , what upgrades have been done and they do giveaways and 10-30% off etc etc , TikTok, and other platforms also. And they pay KZbinrs to do reviews . They do the same with fake sneakers

[@vali69]

It's actually more like half of that amount. You have to know where to look for with these replicas to find the cheapest prices, most of the sellers you'll find easily are targeting you specifically, basically the foreign market, but if you look for those within the chinese domestic market you'll find they're selling these for much cheaper to themselves basically.

[@famts3716]

Price is like 3650 yuan from my dealer so it’s 500 dollars not 1000 lol

[@filthyminges]

​@@famts3716what website did you find it on?

[@StaWAR959]

looking forward for a review on datejust 41 from vsf, probably best dj on rep market

[@happinesscompilation5252]

With modern technology, a replica will be 99% the same as the original. Even the movement accuracy will be the same. So the question is should you buy a replica instead because it's much cheaper.

[@Matt463634]

The accuracy of this was all over the place, you can see it on the timegrapher reading.

[@dylvasey]

But that can easily be overcome by regulating the watch. I have a Batgirl super clone in front of me that keeps incredibly good time, easily on par with its more expensive dad.@@Matt463634

[@osas1684]

They only reason to buy a real watch is because of it’s value or because it’s a very unique watch

[@juxtaplay]

It's not as simple as regularly unfortunately. The entire manufacturing process determines the precision once you get to the adjustment and poising stage. The reality is, yes they are cosmetically achieving close to 90% but the overall quality is closer to 30%. These watches don't last.

[@osas1684]

@@juxtaplay Yes indeed. I thought replica watches are treated as a disposable anyway.

[@naga2015kk]

You should always ask this question, Patek claims it has IN HOUSE MOVEMENT BUT it can't get Made In Switzerland certification. why? actually NONE of the major watch companies get Made In Switzerland certification. Dig deeper and you will uncover a huge scam.

[@TXLorenzo]

What is insane is that those with the money for the real watch will buy a replica to wear in public in fear of it getting stolen.

[@shahlegno5890]

so it's more safe like that

[@jjefferyworboys8138]

The only reason I would buy a replica is that I already owned the real one.

[@shahlegno5890]

@@jjefferyworboys8138 yes correct

[@TXLorenzo]

Oh, I understand the security aspects of wanting to wear the fake outdoors, but doesn't that interfere with the enjoyment of the real thing? Also, it is still illegal in many countries to trade in fakes with some pretty severe penalties. It is just sad that you have to resort to these measures not to lose your investment.@@shahlegno5890

[@Vusseyv]

I am considering just this as I can’t wear my Rolexes in London for fear of theft.

[@Cartier_specialist]

I believe those details the replica companies make are intentional so in the event a company sues them they have plausible denyability.

[@TJames69]

🤯 after watching this I’m astonished people would pay $100,000 more for a real PP!

[@ZinosMalaka]

I've just received my 5712 through a Chrono24 dealer. The quality is incredibly good! However, I wanted to make sure if it's a genuine watch and checked if the watch has a Curb Regulator. It doesn't (i felt immediatley reliefed)! But then I used a caliper to measure the thickness, and it's 8.8mm. According to the manufacturer, it should be 8.52mm. That left me uncertain. But you also state that the genuine one has 8.8mm. Could it be that Patek measures differently? And do all the other websites online simply adopt the 8.5mm measurement that Patek provides?

[@juxtaplay]

Thickness is quite gray believe it or not. We measure every watch we consign and even two identical references will vary slightly. The manufacturers always post a thickness as a reference but there is a variance. +/- 0.2mm depending on the watch.

[@ZinosMalaka]

thank you really much for your reply! thats good to know @@juxtaplay

[@craigmk6]

It’s getting to a point where someone wearing a replica could laugh at someone wearing a genuine watch.. so close for so little money.

[@EGO0808]

Until you own the real watch. Then you'd laugh at all fakes. The feeling you get when owning an original Patek, AP or alike is incomparable. I know the fake lovers will start shouting now, but that's because they need to prove it to themselves they scored a good deal. Whereas the fake is just a fake.

[@ponterboddit7576]

I just get the time of my phone; its more accurate. Also I don't get mugged for my expensive watch

[@brichard11]

I think what this kind of proves is that a Patek-Philippe just isn't worth as much as they sell it for. Even with all the finishing that goes into them, the price is just beyond insane.

[@pierrex3226]

And that's a surprise? The world of extreme luxury has nothing to do with value. It's about the stories we tell ourselves and the image we want to project.

[@ffrederickskitty214]

@@pierrex3226keeps highly-skilled craftsmen in jobs too. Ultimately the monetary value of something is only what people are prepared to pay for it. Personally, I’d hate to live in a world where everything is mass-produced by robots. I’d love a Patek Philippe, but they are way out of my pocket 😂

[@TheWolvesinthewoods]

Fakes serve a purpose. When you go out in public, it doesn't matter if a criminal steals a shitty fake.

[@Daniel-tc7jr]

The only problem is I know it’s fake when I have it on. That’s why I wouldn’t buy it

[@thehansmemling]

The real question is where can I order a rep at this quality from?....... for research purposes of course.

[@James-iw3dw]

agree, who makes best replica?

[@sailingsolstice]

That number 2 marker on the authentic though! 😀 Give me a Casio F91 any day.

[@MikeVal1369]

I remember getting a Rolex for $15 bucks off a street vendor in South Korea in 1992. It was definitely real, had a serial number *sticker* on it and everything! Still, it looked decent on my wrist and lasted for a year.

[@dl5066]

anywhere know where I can get one?

[@evilAshTheDog]

This is a fun video! In the future, please consider a different (or no) additional audio tracks in the background.

[@djfernando16]

Your arguments really sold me on the 50k authentic one vs the 1k knockoff!

[@julianwinn4502]

Fascinating to see how the fake watch is so closely modelled on the real thing.

[@godGottgod]

OK but has the replica movement has all the complications working? This would be really impressive.

[@juxtaplay]

Of course! Fully functional.

[@vladansretenovic1952]

Very nice and comprehensive video probably the most detailed and best i jave ever seen. But i am missing a point maybe someone can help with an answer. People who are buying these fakes are usually buying them for a visual impact, so is this a good replica without opening, etc that can really confuse even real afficiando or not?

[@rpals5412]

Glad I found your channel! Fantastic knowledge you poses about these watches and the production behind them. If you could get your hands on one of the Hublot big bang watches I would reallly love to see a replica vs real video on those like this video, that would be amazing. Gonna subscribe and hope that video will come some day 🙂

[@mrnoisy4883]

Version 2 is out already with correct colour matching and correct thickness of case.

[@piholino]

where?

[@qpwoeiruty108]

what really impressed me is the view from your windows

[@alecpainter5204]

Makes you wonder why we haven't seen a decent Chinese luxury brand. They've clearly got the types of craftsmen that can do amazing work.

[@jhonnypenacho]

Quality Control sticker says "ContrAl" on the replica one! :_D

[@israeli49]

Amazing, where so you get this watches from?

[@jrj85-]

Thank you for the detailed, thorough look at these however the background music with the incessant ticking is extremely irritating and distracting...

[@torben777]

I dont like the idea of copying something, but there is no denying they achive amazing quality and accuracy for the price. You can see the difference on the movement, but on the outside it is very hard even on these magnified images, and there are actually some details that almost look better on the fake one.

[@lohikarhu734]

I can learn a lot about watches, generally, from your comparison videos.... But, I'm not buying a $1000 watch, right now, so even the fake is too much., but, if buying a "used '" watch that could be fake, great to understand the telling signs.

[@ykx777]

you should buy real watches they actually hold value, at most price points.

[@minimeee04]

99% of people who buy fake are just happy it looks spot on like the real thing for a fraction of the price.

[@followyourpassion8378]

A very good view. I also like the calm way it is presented!

[@DmitryV77]

0:33 Метка на 2 часа в оригинальных часах выглядит гораздо хуже чем в реплике из за того, что край метки не параллелен корпусу и метка не симметричная метке на 10 часов.

[@glennsowieso2199]

more of the realv vs fake.. they are sooo good

[@planarian1772]

Whoever owns that authentic PP, is a legend. He wears em like it's a beater. Respect.

[@cokemachine5510]

Could you swap parts? Like a balance and bridge? Bolt right in?

[@chronograph750]

Not with the Patek movements no

[@Bippy55]

Great video. More power to you. I once heard that the replica sellers have no (0) customer service or warrantee after the sale. So if it breaks 3 weeks after purchase, you're stuck! Something to remember.

[@robertbrandywine]

Not likely to fail with that kind of quality plus you could have a watchmaker fix it for not too much. The main reason not to buy a fake is because *you* know it is a fake.

[@marvindebot3264]

That would depend on the seller, some have very good after sales service, some have none, some take your money and run.

[@anotnykong3730]

This video is awesome. By any chance you can do a real vs fake for ALS watch?

[@juxtaplay]

We won't be covering an ALS as it is heavily movement based and mostly precious metal cases. We will focus on stainless steel watches as they are more closely replicated. ALS does not have the same demand as PP, AP, Rolex, etc. so the factories won't spend the time replicating them. Also, the movement quality is far beyond the aforementioned brands.

[@TheChugelfish]

just ordered v4 with moonphase mod, glad i live up to the lifestyle to pass it as gen