'Refining' Our Strategy in Scrap Mechanic Nomad Survival!

[@MrLarsgren]

should disconnect from the drills unless you are mining. use way too much fuel otherwise. consumption is based on weight and number of powered bearings. thats why things like motorcycles hardly sips fuel with only 1 powered bearing. if i were you i would make a 3rd axle with a spring glitch sandwiched between the wheels that could drops as needed. if set to 26` they wont glitch out and it will give you crazy torque when needed. lift trick. you raise lift as high as you can then drop a glowstick on the lift. then you jump and quickly place lift on the glow. this way you can keep going up. rinse and repeat. also good for overhead light during raids.

[@KASZTAN191]

That feels too much like cheating (the later part)

[@Pirr]

Wasn't controller (which uses no resources) enough to power drills and saws?

[@MrLarsgren]

@@KASZTAN191 its good for emergencies.

[@MrLarsgren]

@@Pirr yes but you will need a tier 5 if only powering 1 bearing to spin them. can use a 3 or 4 with a couple stacked bearings

[@foamyesque]

@@Pirr Yeah, that works, but you need a stack of component kits to upgrade the controllers to get working speeds out of it.

[@LordSethrik]

Fuel is calculated per bearing also, having your drills constantly on is wasting fuel It's more efficient to have a separate motor and switch so you can turn them off when you don't need them

[@maurer3d]

Or better use controller based drills (no fuel needed).

[@LordSethrik]

@maurer3d more efficient in the long run I totally agree, but requires alot more component kits so kindof a pain to set up early game A scrap engine can power drills alone, but a controller needs to be I think lvl 3 before it spins fast enough for drills

[@Set_your_handle0-0]

Or just disconnect them between uses to avoid using resources

[@ZephyrusAsmodeus]

Watched him throw away the scrap engine a while back like bruh, those are perfect for driving drills and saws for cheap until you get controllers

[@KurNorock]

Kan: needs gas Also Kan: drives right by a desert with an oil pond.

[@sibau9179]

Timestamp?

[@elisjohansson4932]

when?

[@shreyasdesikan898]

@@elisjohansson4932 when he was driving by that other route from the starting area towards the peninsula. It was right before the chemical plant.

[@GummieI]

Well would he be able to make any pumps to get the oil though? untill he has pumps I believe he has to get it from the ocean

[@timetravelingtraveler]

32:50. Bit hard to see but one of those rocks belongs to a tile which has oil

[@argore9709]

This series alone has gotten me back into scrap mechanic. Thanks :))

[@ckrispisblankus]

I'm about to start too😂

[@juriscervenaks8953]

@argore9709 I abandoned this game, because physics couldn't handle my big car builds. That is main reason i started to play it hoping for big builds. Now i have 2x-5x more fps than with previous physics. For bigger cars still less than 30 fps, but before was less than 5 :) I hope Kan also will make bigger cars than in previous series.

[@st_ishan_will_help]

I am just imagining the flipping over issues with the road train 😂

[@MarkkuS]

Railroads online again 😂

[@st_ishan_will_help]

@MarkkuS . I remember those moments. 😂😂

[@connermason4508]

18:00 Dearest kAN You can craft a bucket in the craftbot using scrap metal

[@beaclaster]

and craftbot need only scrap metal, component kit, and circuit (amount unspecified) which are all achievable with just the hammer

[@Ourcasula]

Also at 22:30 the green crate dropped water, so you wouldn't need a bucket necessarily anyways to get started

[@beaclaster]

@@Ourcasula you can't use the water material to water farm plot can you?

[@Ourcasula]

@beaclaster No, but you can eventually make pumps and water cannons. You don't need a bucket at all, you just need the water itself to make the metal and glass and you can then use equipment to water crops. It would actually be a really interesting challenge run to go no-buckets; it would make the early game hard since it would be a bunch of grinding out water from crates but you never need a bucket.

[@sibau9179]

Cant you lose the batteries for the mechnic stations

[@child_of_madnessgaming667]

Do your powerful locomotive bit, but make it two tiered, lower tier is your power/fuel setup and upper tier is your controls, sleeping, and food storage/Cookbot space. For the mining and tree cutting, make crane arms on the top that can extend, each crane should have its own seat and controls though separate from the driving. Edited to clarify: One crane arm would have saws, the other would have drills, that's why I suggested two crane arms.

[@juriscervenaks8953]

@child_of_madnessgaming667 Mining with crane only works with heavy vehicles, light vehicles get pushed back, and need to jump in driving seat to drive closer constantly.

[@child_of_madnessgaming667]

@@juriscervenaks8953 if he's setting it up with multiple trailers, and making the front vehicle all power and housing, it'll be plenty heavy.

[@bibydu1772]

32:50 there is a desert with an oil pond and because you are the master of piston engine you should make one for the locomotive. Great video i love scrap mechanic survival.

[@sondgerothja]

@20:06 Right where you looked when you said "nothing else", you can put a lift and make your way to the roof. Usually 1-2 containers and a green box.

[@MarkkuS]

Also he needs to remember the toilet seat climbing/dropping again. ❤

[@beaclaster]

kAN would you consider piston engine?

[@G-mansKanal]

He will

[@c0rrupted-Image]

The main engine car should be piston while his following cars should use electric for helping drive the cars along

[@c0rrupted-Image]

Electric ensures he spends time either clearing warehouse tapebots for fuel or be lame and craft them lol

[@jakewynn]

he already said he will

[@Set_your_handle0-0]

Wouldn’t that be low on torque?

[@tranquility7692]

A 6x6 with walking beam rear suspension and an articulating solid front axle omits the need for suspension with only 3 extra bearings.

[@Chewchewman]

What do that look like

[@vlognblog.]

Yes but sounds complicated

[@tikityler1386]

That first structure you went to some times has stuff on the roof or floors with no direct access via stairs. You can get there using your lift and of course the good old toilet seat method.

[@SuperJLD2005]

This new survival series has brought back ideas and joy into my original survival world, thanks kAN!

[@Electrodoc1968]

I did a roadway plant of Pineapple & broccoli & used fertilizer to grow in 1 day. Harvested JUST in time to avoid the raid, then ran the raid over, in a deathrace 2000 style.

[@MichaelMSchofield]

18:03 literally looks at the recipe for a bucket and the 18:18 "I don't think you could ever craft a bucket again" LOL

[@luciferblack4768]

i feel like it would be cool and still kinda in-keeping with the nomad feeling to have a tiny cosmetic building (litteraly just like those destructable houses you sometimes find) and have a beacon in it. kind of like gastown from mad max, even tho everyone is living in cars and lorries, you still need somewhere to get the fuel

[@ashade9]

Kan, make beacons to mark farms, oil & chem ponds. One free radio is in crashed ship to make beacon.

[@ronitkhadgi8292]

do a walking beam suspension That will help you to not get stuck.

[@LoPhatKao]

the long peninsula road (where you ran out of fuel at 33:40 or so) leads to the farmer beach

[@KallenLonbom]

That first structure that you thought there were no more crates, if you use your lift by the side of the top floor you can get to the floors above and they have more crates

[@kuttispielt7801]

I think you'll have to make a detachable mining vehicle. Either detach the "engine" from your train or your last car because all the back and forth while mining will probably be a huge pain.

[@thehyenabear1254]

I started a nomad playthrough when I saw the first video but I chose to go piston engines only since I had never done it before. Definitely a fun challenge and much less of a hassle than constantly oil farming

[@nadeltrauma127]

I love the game and am always happy when you start a small series again. It's a shame that the developers don't really get more out of it

[@DarknessVR619]

Kan, have you ever heard of "High Torque piston engines"? I'm sure they'll help lol.

[@beaclaster]

oh he definitely has, he had made one!

[@DarknessVR619]

@beaclaster I'm sorry to say this but I was using sarcasm lol.

[@ztirom2267]

Issue for piston engines is that you need max level pistons for the speed, wich are really expensive

[@beaclaster]

@ztirom2267 as he said in first episode (iirc) he planned to have the train's speed be faster than walking but slower than running

[@topaz123212]

You need to try making a snorkel mask and paddles or something to be under water longer to find oil to hold that heavy hunk of car along 😂 I've been flowing this series and scrap man's tube of survival series. Haven't had double series of scrap mechanic!

[@mihalydozsa2254]

When you have the trailers you cold park around the farm splots like carnival carts.

[@lillian6023]

Fun fact. You can get looped crafting with a level 1 craftbot and a chest on either side of the bot

[@sonorangaming449]

Fun idea you may be able to try to implement. Only being able to do major repairs and upgrades to your vehicle in the mechanic stations. and that can be the only place you can set vehicle parts on the ground since you already broke the no placing stuff on the ground rule @1:55. It will give them a better purpose beyond making bots, and it will be a reason to do more driving to and from places.

[@risathecandy5780]

These dad jokes are elite, keep them up!

[@maurer3d]

18:22 You can not soft lock yourself, as you don't need anything special to build a craft bot, and only need scrapmetal to build a bucket.

[@0megaming]

In my experience, when you mine with 1-3 drills or log trees (exept for the large ones), 2 collectors and 1 refinery is enough. Also, you could make mining and crafting some independent trailers stuff, where you just need to choose, where to park the one, you don´t need atm And the bucket is crafted with 5 scrap metal, so there´s no softlocking there. You get about everything, you need from looting, because you can trade the carrots for soil. I´d also say, you should be allowed to set up automatic defenses around the farms, that don´t require anyone operating them.

[@nunyabiznis3595]

The nomad life can include returning to spots. So you could still build a "base farm" that you return to periodically.

[@neonsamurai1348]

I always grow carrots as milk is easy as heck to get.

[@thef1resku112]

If you want to do an electric vehic train, the tape bots at the warehouses drop batteries 50% of the time. The other 50 circuit boards are component kits

[@Coldcolor900]

those drills are what's eating up all your fuel

[@someoneme7057]

You can pump water into a water chest. From the chest, you can pull out water with a bucket by right clicking.

[@Franklin_Johanessan]

Gotta save this for the morning, dang

[@someoneme7057]

To soft lock yourself, you need to find the three master batteries(The one that power the Mechanic station), and throw them on the ground to de-spawn. As new buckets can be made at the craft bot(5 scrap metal). New craft bots cost 100 scrap metal, 10 component kits, 10 circuit boards.

[@PatrikPocsik]

Kan, you content is wonderful.

[@cylisplaysgames]

20:20 That structure has a top area that you need to use your lift to reach.

[@Charles-7]

you can do two connectors next to the refinery, and the refinery can pull from them both without needing to switch them around.

[@bubbon1573]

I'd love to see the locomotive have a system for the saw-blades where they come out from the side and then forward. It'd look really damn cool.

[@8oringguy]

Another cool idea for you KAN, how about placing pumps on the bottom of your train so you can drive over corn, lootcrates or bots and it would suck the loot up

[@pepperspray7386]

since you are planning to make several separate vehicles maybe a giant auto car ejecting apparatus should be made for something to do and to test the lag on a large complex stationary build.

[@sortius_]

If you widen it right, you might be able to do 2x refineries and 3x collectors, which would give you a nice buffer, and it should pick up the majority of a medium sized node in one hit.

[@turrboenvy4612]

Nomad was my favorite playthrough. None of that "oh crap, I left that back at the base." Of course there was the time I got attacked by a farmbot with my entire life in his line of sight.

[@GummieI]

Regarding caged farmers well a ramp would probably be easier, but a crane would be infinitely cooler. Another issue though would be, that most places with caged farmers, you probably wouldn't be able to get to with your main vehicle/road-train, so maybe for things like that you might want a car on your main vehicle with a garage with a mini vehicle in it exactly for things you might not be able to get completely close to, to get and transport things to your main vehicle/road-train. Ofc you would still have to stay within reasonable distance from your main vehicle/road-train when in such area, though maybe reasonable distance when using such mini-vehicle could be a little extended compared to on foot(essentially have it based roughly on time, instead of distance), but would allow you to drive in more dense areas to get stuff

[@askolds11]

For controller drive - for reasonable speeds you need 4-5 bearings per wheel iirc. You can make a piston passthrough, so you have the wheel on 1 bearing till a solid attachment and the rest of the bearings behind it so they do not droop and glitch less.

[@foamyesque]

Depends on your wheel size. If you build extra-large custom wheels you can go sprint+ with a single bearing.

[@pjamestx]

Woo! Love me some Scrap Mechanic survival vids!

[@matthewveal7959]

Car kinda looks like a doctor sues vehicle 😂😂😂 looking forward to how it turns out in the end ❤

[@CarDon1816]

you should do 20-25 min episodes but make more of them

[@townpoem]

A ladder frame could save on weight and resources.

[@Dragonorder18]

Now I want to take and build my own version of Kan's traveling base vehicle. I could see making it a Super rig!

[@sonorangaming449]

Best way to pick up farmers is to build a pipe life with a piston, controller, and bearings. Offset the piston to the side, and set it low enough so you can knock the farmers into a pipe lift. Once it lifts up to level with the trailer, the pipes fold up to push the farmers into the trailer and prevent them from falling back out.

[@foamyesque]

Or you just drive beside 'em and build a cage around them :D

[@EvilSawboss]

This series is awesome

[@Nedac93]

I'd personally love to see a piston powered locomotive. I would love to see like steam locomotive running gear on the wheels, but for the sake of survival I would understand and still really enjoy seeing a regular piston engine used for power on the locomotive.

[@snowiersummer99]

If you use the controller method, you should make a big drive wheel and connect other wheels with a rod, kinda like a real train

[@darkwarrior1588]

18:53 hand refines scrap metal with a collector and refiner above his head

[@darkwarrior1588]

i now see this is a theme of this video...

[@foamyesque]

The problem with controller-driven vehicles is that there's a huge tradeoff between speed and precision. Instead of that or getting an electric engine, just get a second gas engine to drive the drills and upgrade the main drive one to L5, maybe with big wheels. L5 gas engines have enormous amounts of torque if you actually max them; the limiting factor becomes the bearings attaching everything.

[@komilover1]

love this series ngl

[@SapioiT]

You can place I think 4 tier 1 or 2 tier 2 seeds to grow in a chunk, and they will not cause a raid. So you could have patches of plants spaced out so you can go from patch to patch to plant and collect them, without ever having a raid timer triggered.

[@foamyesque]

9 for carrots/tomatoes/carrots, 6 for potatoes and cotton, 4 for blueberries/bananas/oranges, 3 for pineapple/broc.

[@whusmanameAtGeeMail]

You could place corn on your vehicle to feed wocs, so that's not a problem for placing corn.

[@whusmanameAtGeeMail]

That peninsula goes to the farmer-beach. The Large POI's are always in the same places on the map.

[@PatrikPocsik]

KAN! I kinsly ask you to take this knowledge. I tried only farming redbeets, but they fill both hunger and thirst the same amount! You need to grow Tomatoes! Tomatoes fill more thirst and on average, the mechanic character uses more thirst then hunger, so the Tomatoes are much better.

[@Psycorde]

I find carrot + milk combo to be the best

[@foamyesque]

That's correct if you don't have milk income. With milk, redbeets or carrots work well, or, once you have a cookbot, burgers and milk.

[@adicsbtw]

I left a comment on the last video, but I'll summarize here (all information comes from my interpretation of the game's scripts) Fuel gets consumed based on the amount of force being applied to each bearing. The game never directly looks at your vehicle's weight to determine fuel efficiency, and instead just sees that the bearing is applying a large amount of force for a long time. Decelerating is free though, so braking won't consume fuel There's no "tricking the game to consume less fuel" by splitting up your vehicle. As long as there's some force resisting the bearings and slowing them down, that directly translates to fuel usage Also, because the game doesn't directly measure weight, the drills on the front probably aren't consuming as much fuel as people think (though they definitely are consuming some) If you're comfortable reading through code, a lot of the game's mechanics are defined by lua scripts in the game's folders, should you want to learn more and do research on other mechanics

[@ScottaHemi440]

if you do a controler engine thing. grab those big barrols behind thta farm house. they're much bigger then the big tires which will help with controler speed!

[@ScottaHemi440]

goes to the start. grabs the tomato. doesn't plant any new crops for emergancy later xD

[@roccov3614]

I think the easiest way to get farmers onto a vehicle is to use a forklift. Press a button to lower fork, hammer farmer between fork, press button to tip farmer into truck.

[@KurNorock]

I'm almost positive that fuel consumption is calculated by engine power, number of bearings being powered, and resistance to motion. I've always noticed more fuel being consumed while I pull trailers. It's best to turn the engine power down to as low as you can get away with.

[@liveepically]

Now that the new physics engine fixes collisions, there is nothing to say that one of the trailers doesnt carry deploy-able vehicles such as a little escalator skidsteer for mining or wood chopping. As long as it deploys from the trailer and returns.

[@pinkytheslime1512]

You should make it so all the carts have defenses on one side, so you can surround your farming area like an old caravan around the campfire.

[@jgamefactory]

If you put fertilizer on the plant you can also skip the raid for high tier plants.

[@ckrispisblankus]

It would be cool if you make motorised trailers and in some way (piston sensor) communicate to the trailer to turn on its engines, probably only forwards.

[@OnedownNTG]

the farmers field green container in the busted little building is the only loose green container in the game if you can somehow manage to pick it up

[@GummieI]

Even if you can't technically softlock yourself, loosing all seeds and having to find new ones in chest, and grow them, you might end up just not be able to get new food in time before dieing. Which would at the very least be extremely frustrating running back to your crops constantly and the crops then only giving like 2-3 fruits or something since you only found a single seed

[@easygoing4964]

i think it's acceptable to build a gas station on an oil pond, so if you're running low on gas you can just get it there and drive off

[@DARK_KNIGHT_226]

YES FINALY ANOTHER EPISODE

[@cosmoah9671]

Love these episodes

[@LoPhatKao]

started a new Crashlander save, mining is so fun and satisfying now

[@Shieldedbeard]

At 32:30 you have passed by the burning forest that holds a bunch of the red farm bot guys. The reason I know this is because the tile it self doesnt blend in very well with the environment.

[@minecraftnoob4273]

Hey kan did you enjoy your big stretch at 36:02

[@AuraKnightTheLucario]

maybe you could also load a wok in a cart and feed it any corn you find for milk

[@korey4241]

Just a suggestion, you should make the "locomotive" look like the big Letourneau TC-497 land train.

[@N1EVOLVE]

I'd say get the pump and a large chest as soon as possible so that you won't have to worry about fuel. Just one of those desert area's and collect some fuel, super easy. I find its super annoying having to go into the water just to get fuel.

[@KurNorock]

You can craft buckets. You saw it right in the craft bot menu. And you can never be prevented from getting a craft bot. Also, you don't actually need buckets to pay the game. You can build vacuum pumps without needing buckets.

[@sibau9179]

Well if you lose all the batteries you cant Power up the mechanics Station to make a craft bot

[@nomurLethalmud]

Use a piston engine for your train. It fits the train thing in vibe.

[@anderedaan]

12:28 if thats the case, just make the smallest locomotive for early game travels

[@FeyPrevesk]

I feel like a piston-controller engine may be in your future for this series, even if it's just as a backup for when you run out of gas/batteries.

[@Lipi19821]

28:40 pick up that leg/spine and throw it into resource collector😂

[@KurNorock]

Raids are excellent sources of component kits, circuit boards, and scrap metal.

[@beaclaster]

as a mechanic with stacks upon stacks of circuit board, i can confirm

[@ErickXavier]

@kANGaming SInce you got 6 wheels, a 6x6 with front and back turning could make it more driveable... what you think?

[@daxain7368]

I feel like coming back to one farming spot is the opposite of nomadic, since it keeps you anchored to one spot. Instead, you could be able to pick up soil, but you can only plant one crop cycle. And then you have to drive for at least a full minute before putting it all back down again.

[@juriscervenaks8953]

@kAN Gaming After making enough food you should focus on finding oil well, 1 chest-30 slots lasts long time. Or after making bearing exploring small car. I think it would be faster to look for oil than build bearing mining car.

[@MichaelMSchofield]

Fant mod (custom game mode) nomad would have been so cool... wireless item transfer, glow bug cages and so many other things

[@nekowknight]

31:04 that's the tile that gives you the green box that you can take home if you were not playing nomad id recommend stealing that box. Also that tile is old as heck

[@theyeetus1428]

I know it's somewhat impractical, but I think piston power would be really cool.

[@darth-matt92]

I think it might be a fun challenge to try and optimize your train to use as little gas as possible but still need the gas to move

[@bomberbadj2]

I think one refinery but two resource collectors is most efficient. Tested that on my Crashlander nomad base.

[@amytinnyunt3441]

The first thing i thought when you extended the back of the camper was it looks like the chassie for a old winebago like from braking bad😂

[@OB1-D2]

I see how this series’s titles are going

[@kilbymorgan8626]

Tapebots drop Batteries on death and it's common. Get a spudgun and you'll drown in batteries. Don't even have to enter a warehouse either.

[@slowlikeabrow8329]

iMO harvesters should be able to pickup items if connected to a chest.