Reflections on the Elusive I - The Cognitive Science Show

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John Vervaeke

John Vervaeke

Күн бұрын

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@ErnestoEduardoDobarganes
@ErnestoEduardoDobarganes 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh... the amount of wisdom and intelligence deployed in this conversation is of its own league.
@williamjmccartan8879
@williamjmccartan8879 3 жыл бұрын
I was worried at first with the 5 of you participating in this dialog, but John you gently held the reins and did an excellent job ensuring everyone's voices were heard. These discussions help me centre in the moment and are very rewarding for me. Thank you all. Peace
@Jimmy-el2gh
@Jimmy-el2gh 2 жыл бұрын
The illusiveness is the presence🤔 thankyou gentlemen. That will sink in more and more. Love yall
@meta_noia
@meta_noia 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for the team, it was AMAZING! John you put together a group that went deep into Logos. The first half was hard for me, a newbie in social science, yet the second one was a source of wisdom. I really appreciate how you guys navigate through academia to delivery a clear message about the need for a transformation in our society, specially to the field of education. Thank you so much.
@daniemarie2938
@daniemarie2938 3 жыл бұрын
Deep bow to this five.....for continually returning (us) to the mood that stability generously offers.
@evanblackie7510
@evanblackie7510 3 жыл бұрын
That was very coherent, inspiring and tangible for me. Thanks all 😊
@mediocrates3416
@mediocrates3416 3 жыл бұрын
"The stack", I like it! Meaning is place; it's context all the way down.
@mediocrates3416
@mediocrates3416 3 жыл бұрын
"Next and next to" is why meaning is place. ... Get it?
@Jimmy-el2gh
@Jimmy-el2gh 2 жыл бұрын
By far one of the most impacted conversations thus far. Live this group. That was supposed to say love but they Typo must be the illusive presence because live feels informative. 🙃
@alexandrazachary.musician
@alexandrazachary.musician 3 жыл бұрын
The discussion of the right confrontation with death, especially in the way Layman is describing, is exactly the problem that I’ve been facing facilitating Ayahuasca retreats in Peru. There in lies the danger of so much of the psychedelic tourism movement and the main reason I’ve chosen to return to studying psychology, hoping to find a better preparation and safer set and setting for (particularly) westerners seeking a transformative experience. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@mediocrates3416
@mediocrates3416 3 жыл бұрын
"Selving" is coherence. We (our lucid conscious "selves") are elecyrotonic psedoparticles stablized bybhomeostasis fir 16 hrs a day, i'll wager. The body is a different, more ontologically grounded type of particle.
@alxsmac733
@alxsmac733 3 жыл бұрын
Just a quick thought as I'm listening: on Desmond connecting dialectical movement and Eros, I'm reminded of Han's Agony of Eros.
@finneganmcbride6224
@finneganmcbride6224 3 жыл бұрын
I’m interested in reading Hans’ Agony of Eros. Can you summarize or give your thoughts for me?
@leedufour
@leedufour 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks everyone!
@johnvervaeke
@johnvervaeke 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lee.
@lizellevanwyk5927
@lizellevanwyk5927 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with Layman's appreciation of Chris' contribution. When watching the series I kinda labelled John as Mind, Gregg as Heart and Christopher as Soul. Would (have) love(d) to hear more from the Soul 😉
@MrGroovequest
@MrGroovequest 3 жыл бұрын
This is like watching pro level word-athletes dunking baskets (insert sports metaphor here, perhaps Mayan Death Ball is best) with John as participant, coach and colour commentator. I am watching the other videos to learn the lingo. I would love to see this evolve into dance improve or sacred art/geometry ala Alex Grey as a contemplative right brain expression. Thank you all for your service. Grateful.
@alexandrazachary.musician
@alexandrazachary.musician 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all that you are all doing. I have a request.... can you please put a call out to any listeners in Australia/NZ/Pacific region to join the discord server. There are a few of us struggling to participate in the practices but the time zone is a difficulty (occasional 3am circling is not sustainable 😪). I’d love to see an Antipodean Chapter form. ❤️❤️❤️
@johnvervaeke
@johnvervaeke 3 жыл бұрын
Will do.
@dezatron
@dezatron 3 жыл бұрын
I second this as a New Zealander
@alexandrazachary.musician
@alexandrazachary.musician 3 жыл бұрын
@@dezatron please find me on the server and say hello. 😃🦘
@mikemott483
@mikemott483 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of what you guys are talking about just happens as part of being in a serious improv ensemble.
@Andrew.baltazar
@Andrew.baltazar 3 жыл бұрын
My working memory can't handle this conversation 😂 Think I need help working out the translation between my view and all yours. I'm sure I'm on a similar wavelength, I'm just a few steps behind and use completely different words and phrases. Defo got some reading to do...
@mediocrates3416
@mediocrates3416 3 жыл бұрын
You can't dogmatize the new space. This is our persistent problem; wisdom knows truth present through silence, in silence but; is NOT silence.
@ScottElofson
@ScottElofson 3 жыл бұрын
Where do we find the notes?
@Tobela100
@Tobela100 7 ай бұрын
🙏🏾❤️
@Jimmy-el2gh
@Jimmy-el2gh 2 жыл бұрын
🙏
@mediocrates3416
@mediocrates3416 3 жыл бұрын
"Ontochoriography", I like it! It's just how it works. 😁
@claytonflanagan3636
@claytonflanagan3636 Жыл бұрын
I don't think there is free will how could i if the is know self
@claytonflanagan3636
@claytonflanagan3636 Жыл бұрын
My favourite subject the self ihave listen to allot d attrel this is coming from a dyslexia who left school at 11.but philosophy and history I love.but if you won't too know there is no self just read Sanskrit and Kant and ironically the mind body knowing of the self ha ha
@mediocrates3416
@mediocrates3416 3 жыл бұрын
Different types of ontologies? There is only one ontology; isn't there? Ontological normalization is what, then?
@mediocrates3416
@mediocrates3416 3 жыл бұрын
Everything that's true is true at once.
@mediocrates3416
@mediocrates3416 3 жыл бұрын
"The stack" is the serpent.
@claytonflanagan3636
@claytonflanagan3636 Жыл бұрын
The triven
@OscarGolph
@OscarGolph 3 жыл бұрын
Without the kiss. lovers drift in the sea of intellectually charged concepts, uncertain it is true love they hold aloft as logos, in the world of offerings to the conscious system. They are the image in this story, but the deficient in reality, as without the kiss, they are just imagery, whilst we fumble around like teenagers with a porn mag. lol, Experience is the reality, there is only Man to this experience as it seeks Salat, all else is Salat.
@claytonflanagan3636
@claytonflanagan3636 Жыл бұрын
K was christen so God . we suffer too much not too have faith.eckhart t . the power of now.u lot should of read it . but probably not too Lowe brow but he talked about a experience of oneness I should of said master Eckhart similar.
@claytonflanagan3636
@claytonflanagan3636 Жыл бұрын
Who's given thee lectures just look at that.ihave no education.only self education
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