Reforged Version 2.0 Update Released Today!!!

[@tinkerboi]

Ok I thought it is going in the right direction, but the AI Up scaling part is kinda distasteful

[@petterodax4120]

Using AI to glorify the images was so pathetic...

[@angamaitesangahyando685]

I never understood this hysterical attitude towards ai though. AI seems great overall? Is it the artists who are on strike, and the sheep people follow? - Adûnâi

[@crepooscul]

@@angamaitesangahyando685 This is exactly what an AI shill who bought into the AI hype and other scam tech hypes would say. I follow artists and browse their art for over 16 years daily, and I definitely understand the "hysterical attitude" towards AI. I also browse the internet since 2002 and yes I can confirm, AI made the internet worse. I loved googling art on google images and see a plethora of art styles from many different artists instead of SEO pushing homogenized same looking AI garbage in my face. And I'm talking only about the loss of quality here, not the immoral degeneracy of it all.

[@petterodax4120]

@angamaitesangahyando685 I'm sorry what are you talking about lol? the images promoted were never part of the game. Promotional art was made with AI, its really bad.

[@Kacpa2]

@@petterodax4120 He is obviously mad. Or one those dinguses like 3kliksphilip that glorify ai like bunch of braindead monkeys. Eitherway not worth the attention.

[@angamaitesangahyando685]

@@petterodax4120 AI to me is a mark of quality because drawn Western art usually has ugly people in it. - Adûnâi

[@somacruz10]

They ruined few textures with upscaling. I dunno I hoped for more.

[@karpai5427]

They will ruin more textures. Don't worry. 😉

[@McTedder]

Thanks Colonel Autumn

[@aurorasun-qs1pg]

Blizzard hire this man

[@Kacpa2]

No, i wont. I decided TO NEVER, EVER give Blizzard any of my money ever since their disgusting announcement and treatment of Warcraft 3 on Blizzcon 2018. I am true to my word to this day and counting. Yes few things are making it less painfull on the eyes like the ui being closer to original wc3, which it always shouldve been, even if they went the lazy route of chrome webui instead of improving classic C++ menues. It shouldnt happen at cost of few single decent things like everywhere chat they had in RF prior, it should coexist with classic-like menu ui. As for it being 2.0 it doesnt deserve the number, it should've been 1.4. 1.5 if they wanted to make a bigger jump. Reforged is still disgusting to look at and i still dont consider it worthy of being "definitive" warcraft 3 and it never will deserve it, its just ill-conceived and was designed by a brain dead "art lead" that was Brian Sousa, he was a complete moron and he should have never been in charge of the game art at any point in time. Now we are forever forced to suffer consequences of his stupidity and disrespect towards the original game.

[@karpai5427]

Yeah. Pretty much.

[@BaDitO2]

that's exactly why I stopped working with reforged as a platform. every patch they do is a threat to my projects, not a benefit.

[@deepstrasz]

Well done, Mr. R!

[@darthgrif6543]

After hearing this, I'm no longer excited from what reforged did

[@artofox]

I can't get a refund...

[@spyfoxguy]

2:56 you called it. Those "screenshots" have disappeared

[@artofox]

:( its what tricked me into buying the game

[@xSnixeR]

@@artofox refund instantly

[@Darkcranio]

It's still up they just renamed them to "concepts" xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@karpai5427]

0:12 So is it possible to have a 3d background in the menu or is it just a video recording of original menu?

[@TheShorka]

It's a video recording of the original menu. It literally loops at 0:10 More on that here: www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/possible-reforged-campaign-menu-screen-restoration-need-help.353168/

[@Zijlstra32]

Good video!

[@smitty78749]

how do i set "Art - Potrait model file" to NONE?

[@TheShorka]

somebody online said we can copy the none value from another unit onto the one we are interested in, but I have not personally spent much time with it yet

[@StormKnight1]

Nothing like drinking tea in the morning and waiting for custom map sizes to increase because of blizzards tom foolery. Also If pretty much every mapmaker is going to have to deal with terrain and model shenanigans it seems odd to exclusively highlight csw and IM as a "by the way" message.

[@TheShorka]

Good point. But, after all, this video is lazy content spat out by AI covering the topic of an update to the game that was also spat out by AI, so maybe I'm not going to worry about it very much, if I even really exist at all.

[@StormKnight1]

@TheShorka Honestly your Topaz/gigapixel update had a better result, I remember me and kacpa talking about how we could touch up the terrain tilesets from a work like that to take care of leftover issues

[@Kacpa2]

@@StormKnight1 Good to see you kicking still out there Storm. Why you're not on discord though?

[@blanchehermine]

Nice touch using an AI voice.

[@artofox]

I am shocked that such false advertisement (even more from a such a large company as BLIZZARD!) is allowed.

[@RyuDouro]

man, I was really going to buy it this time, you "ruined" it.

[@KhangTran-df1qx]

i am so disapointed about this 2.0 thing when i see some ppl really hyped about it so i dont even dare to express my disatisfaction

[@quincho6949]

Lmao Blizard ACTUALLY used Ai to give the game a new look, the most distasteful attempt i've seen to refresh a game's identity and things are still dull due to the company's laziness. Meanwhile, last year, NewBlood released an HD and remodeled version of DUSK (an indie shooter game) as a dlc for free. The low poly models, textures, and assets had been redone and given a new look, the models are high quality while keeping the game's original charm, the levels have been modified so everything was now smooth and redefined instead of poligonal and blurry. While DUSK got another rise in popularity for a while due to this HD version, WC3 is still the same in the eyes of the public. Blizzard should learn from indie companies.

[@angamaitesangahyando685]

Those screenshots are not AI. AI wouldn't have known the purple eggs in the Boneyard, or the shiny AM's staff, or the classic black smoke (it's currenrly oversighted tp Reforged fire). It has to be an internal retouched image, as per the comment from Hive. - Adûnâi

[@Kacpa2]

Whether or not its a highly trained AI or human assisted or drawn concept, its all DOCTORED eitherway. Its a lie and it doenst matter how it was achieved when it doesnt reflect anything of substance.

[@angamaitesangahyando685]

@Kacpa2 It could be an internal concept art which they are trying to recreate, and will, given enough time. Why not? Why assume the worst? Probably innocent miscommunication. And there is work to be done, such as how Classic HD does not have Classic sounds, and some effects are Reforged (such as the fire). - Adûnâi

[@petterodax4120]

@angamaitesangahyando685 Your entire arguments are based on speculations and conjecturing. AI isn't inherently knowledgeable about anything. Just stop lol

[@Artifex_Maho]

Its great, and i love it. Playing reforged enviroment with classic models was always my dream. 10/10 update

[@Grumbledookvid]

why? Inconsistent art styles looks dumb

[@Artifex_Maho]

@Grumbledookvid looks dumb to you, not to me. Im full time artist and i can say its great

[@Grumbledookvid]

@@Artifex_Maho well you have questionable taste then lmao

[@Lifewaytravel]

Its because new models are not so good compared to classic I think

[@angamaitesangahyando685]

Also the hero skins look really nice! Apparently, WC3 has not only the prop layers and the casuals, but also the disgruntled hive workshoppers. - Adûnâi

[@angamaitesangahyando685]

Overall, I agree with Retera's sentiment, but the issue is that we should be grateful for any scraps we can get. Blizzard get barely any money from the WC3 community, so better just shut up and be submissive. The Japanese have this idea of harmony. Whereas Westerners want constantly to show a point. - Adûnâi