Refurbishing a used 8 inch jointer

[@ShaneBates0]

I just picked up a used 6" version of the same brand and intend on refurbishing it as well. This video series has been enlightening, thank you.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Sounds great Shane, good luck with it mate.

[@user-hd8ej8yx9p]

What is the brand?

[@michaelneely6640]

The 3 point mounting to the base is to prevent warping/twisting the cutter head assembly when mounting.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Yes, that’s true Michael. Thanks very much

[@gordonagent7037]

I'll tell you what, you could have gone to H&F or Carbatec and got a newbie but I reckon the satisfaction you get every time you use this machine makes it worth all the tea in China. Brillant resto job, so good to see nice equipment given a new life.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

You're right on both counts Gordon, however, I saved a bit of coin buying second hand and the machine works great now, as good as a new one. Plus I enjoyed the refurb process and it was good video content :-).

[@rico1319]

Thinking about buying a used 8 inch jointer myself. Have my eye on a jet 8 inch. Thinking of spending the time to refurbish it like you did. Thanks for a great informative video.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

No worries Rico, all the best with it mate.

[@TruckDynasty]

that bolt mounting pattern is standard practice on all jointers due to them not wanting the top to not warp with the base since the bases on cheaper jointers like this are stamped.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Yes, you're right mate. I'll get around to it one day. Thanks.

[@glennbrown1961]

The reason for only three bolts to mount it to the cabinet is so if the cabinet top isn't level ar square it will not pull the casting out of alignment. It is done that way for a reason and not to save the cost of a bolt. 45 years fitting experience taught me. Cheers

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thanks for that insight Glenn, makes sense. However, when you consider how heavy and solid the jointer is and the cabinet is only sheet metal, you wouldn't think its a problem. Cheers mate.

[@tonydeleo3642]

RE the three bolts, my guess would be that they did that to avoid "racking" (twisting) the frame when you torque down the bolts

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thanks Tony. Yeah, I've heard that and it makes sense. I'm not noticing an issue with the planer yet but if i do that will be the first thing i change.

[@josephdestaubin7426]

I suspect that the casting mounts on 3 positions so when the box that it sits on contorts to the uneven floor the casting will not break from its own weight plus the weight of the box and the motor Inside the box.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thanks Joseph. i've had this comment a few times and i totally understand it but so far i've had no issues at all.

[@charleskrieger4166]

You might want to rethink mounting with 4 bolts as that could induce a twisting force that the three bolt mount would avoid. I believe the 3 bolt mount was designed to avoid the possibility of twisting the castings.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thats a good point Charles but its now been like that for more than 18 months and no problem yet. Cheers mate.

[@doalex2085]

Good man;! I have to do the same thing to my six inch, got it at a yard sale! Thanks again.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

No problem mate, glad to help and good luck with it 👍

[@brianminghella3312]

There is a very good reason why there are only three mounting bolts on the base. It creates a tripod three point rest that does not stress or twist the casting. I have a 20” wadkin that weighs two tons. It rests on three points not four.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thanks Brian. I know the reason for the three point mount but I don't have any issues with mine this way. It works surprisingly well for a generic brand. Cheers mate.

[@brianminghella3312]

DownUnderWoodWorks . Just a suggestion but if you want to reduce the noise of the machine a bit buy some soft rubber mat and cut it to fit under your mounting bolts. Those steel stands tend to resonate badly and make the machine much noisier. You can also reduce the noise with some sound absorbing foam inside the cabinet. If your lucky your machine ways are still accurate but a lot of those wedge beds have castings that are not seasoned properly so they are prone to warp. Once they go out of tolerance you may as well scrap it. Good luck.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thanks Brian, I like the idea of the rubber under the mounts. I'll give it a go.

[@eejuice]

@@brianminghella3312 Good idea! I've got the same jointer and a noise reduction would be a welcome enhancement. That sheet metal is like having the tool perched atop a tympani drum! I might see about a link belt rather than the solid V belt it currently has, but there's no way in hell I'm going to spring for one of those helical carbide-bitter cutterheads. They're seem to be running around 6 times what I paid for my 8 inch jointer. Outrageous!

[@paulbignell6977]

brilliant video... doing the same to a very old metalclad 9 inch jointer 50 years plus, but runs like a dream, keep the videos coming

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thanks Paul. Good luck with your rebuild, sounds awesome.

[@jeremymcclanahan2389]

The reason it has 3 bolts is the same reason bedrock style hand planes have 3 contact points on the frog.....it keeps it from wobbling. Think of a 3 legged chair vs a 4 legged chair....the 3 legged one will never rock and will always maintain 3 points of contact

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Yes, that right Jeremy. Thanks mate

[@burnu2240]

Hey mate, ive been wanting to ask you about where you got your tables resurfaced? I’m also in australia

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

my brother did it for me as he was working in a metal fabricator shop at the time. that was a long time ago now. i would just ask around any machine shops, metal fabricators or even engine shops would have resurfacing machines.

[@MinHongJiwoodstudio]

hi....I made a safety guide after watching your video. Thank you for being an inspiration to me.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Im very happy to hear that. I watched your video about the safety guard, you did a great job.

[@MinHongJiwoodstudio]

@@DownUnderWoodWorks Oh, thank you. Please visit my channel from time to time ^^

[@SMee67]

Fantastic refurb, mate. Love your attention to detail, and the fact that you take great pride in your work, it definitely shows in the end results. Want to come give me a hand to revamp my 50year old Ezycut combo??? hehehehe

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Mate, I'd love to see that. You'll have to start making YT videos. (Keep me in mind if you ever want to pass it on though) :-)

[@SMee67]

I don't think I will ever get into making any YT vids soon mate... I'd much rather watch them than make them. Scored the Ezycut on Gumtree about 40mins south of Ballarat for $200. Came with a stack of blades (which in all honesty look as old as the unit) and some home made jigs. I have a Google+ page if you want to suss through the pics for it. Got my eye on a band saw at the moment, hopefully I can add it to the work shop.

[@guillermozepeda6778]

Awesome job, as you said, bigger is better, and the job you have done diserves it, looks really nice, i'm trying to buy bigger but have not space, but maybe i can save $$ doing what you did restoring used one.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

You'll definitely save dollars Guillermo and you'll get the satisfaction of a job well done by you.

[@hizo64HH]

As always, I love your videos; how long did it take you to refurbish it? (Not counting minor adjustments)

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

It actually didn't take very long at all. Cleaning the old paint off with the multi tool was quite quick. Repainting it was also quick because I used a primer-less paint. I had to take the cutterhead to have the old bearings pressed off and the new ones installed.The things that probably took the most time was going to buy the bearings and having the knives sharpened. All up I'd say easily within a week.

[@Honu425]

Two and a half years later and I'm still curious.....Dude, did you ever paint that guard? On that nice, cleaned up, piece of equipment, it stands out like a sore thumb!

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Haha, you mean the bright yellow 'pork chop'? No mate its still yellow. Might cover it in stickers :-)

[@toms4123]

Thank you. I am still not clear about table adjustments - my jointing results in snipe at the end of the stock. Checking the infeed table shows sagging at the end away from the knives but the manual is almost silent how to adjust it (gibs) . The wood whisperer has a good video adjusting the infeed, but then many others talk about adjusting the outfeed table (my manual says do not touch). Would it be correct to adjust the outfeed table to the knives and then the infeed table to be co-planar with the outfeed table?

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Yes mate it can be a confusing subject. The gibs on the machine don't adjust the height, they take up any sideways movement in the dovetail. To adjust the beds up or down you have to place shims in-between the horizontal faces of the dovetail runners but only on the outfeed table. I will explain. The infeed table is the only one that gets adjusted up or down for depth of cut so start with it and tighten the gib screws until the slack in the dovetail is gone but the table can still slide up and down without jamming. Next, the outfeed table should be adjusted to be co-planar and parallel to the infeed, this is done with shims. Once the outfeed table is adjusted lock it in place with the gib screws, it doesn't need to be moved. Lastly adjust the planer knives to the outfeed table. Hope that helps.

[@mattg6262]

@@DownUnderWoodWorks hey just read your reply here to this gent but I'm curious where do you set the infeed table in order to make the adjustment of the outfeed table?

[@eejuice]

@@mattg6262 I set my infeed table a smidgon lower than the outfeed table when checking for coplanarity. With a long straight edge, I then make sure the gap between the straight edge and the infeed table is the same everywhere: close, far, left and right. I use feeler gauges. Not expensive, but really useful. If all the gaps are within a thou or two of each other, I'm fine with it. Takes a while. After the outfeed table is all shimmed up and good, I don't mess with it again.

[@i.m.peterrific]

Just a little bit of yellow paint required..... ;) Nice work. Looks and sounds great!

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Ah, it'd be nice to have the real thing. I'll have to settle for 'Downunder' grey. Cheers Peter.

[@chibbert1246]

Great work and nice jointer, I am curious where you got the rotary turntable you were using while painting the infeed and outfeed portions.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

I bought them from garage sales. I've never had a look to see where to buy them new.

[@bobdickweed]

Great work mate...A new home , a new paint job , new bearing and a new life...well done...;-p

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thanks mate, and its been going great ever since.

[@davexb6595]

Did you need to clean up the table surfaces or were those in good condition anyway?

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

The indeed table needed to be resurfaced actually. See it here in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3i8lYaIbtecjas.

[@Jason-jn9sk]

That machine looks very much like my 60HH Powermatic I just bought. Im thinking thats what you've got. Maybe just an older version. Many of your levers and slides aren't just in the same place but they look like they were cast in the same mold.

[@humbleme6974]

I just got a Buffalo 8' jointer and it looks very similar to this as well I can't find to much info on mine but it is well made.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

I was told that its a generic Taiwanese made machine. many of these kinds of machines are made in the same factories and just branded differently

[@Jason-jn9sk]

@@DownUnderWoodWorks well it looks like a solid machine. I hope it serves you well

[@denestoth2470]

Having seen this video just now I think this is a DiTec jointer made in Taiwan. From the mid nineties. I have one identical to it. It was the predecessor to what now is marketed by Jet. Both similar is style and construction.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thanks Denes. Its good to know this stuff.

[@greglove3900]

Yes it is a Diltec there was a barely readable tag on the one i bought at an auction sale. any chance you would have any manuals on yours that you would be willing to share? I'm not seeing how some of the adjustments are made. thanks.

[@gs-me]

great work. how do you adjust the surface when one and is lower tabs the opposite any a cross the surface.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Hi Gunness, have a look at this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3i8lYaIbtecjas. Hopefully it answers the question for you.

[@gs-me]

Hey Thanks, I did look at the link. The make up on the Delta Rockwell 6in is very similar. So i made the necessary adjustments and now its fine. thanks again

[@gs-me]

Well finally at it..... restoring my Rockwell 8" jointer. Is there any adjustment or alignment of the cutter head. Apart from the two bolts on the bearing housing. Just about finished with sanding but I wanted to remove the cutter head to do a thorough job. In your video I did not notice any adjustment being done to cutter head when mounting. Please tell. Thanks

[@sumosprojects]

Good find mate, I got a bargain on an Australian made jointer but only 6 inch, however it's grouse to have an Aussie made machine, like your channel mate 👍🏻🇦🇺👍🏻

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Hi Dirk, just saw your comment. Not sure how I missed it. That would be a rare but good find mate. Thanks for tuning in.

[@testyted]

Nice work mate. Always nice to have something new (or damn close).

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

+testyted Yes mate, it sure is. Just have to find room for all the additions.

[@johnhicks4992]

Nice job! Thanks for showing us.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

No problem John. thank you

[@deevlars]

Great job and video! Happy jointing

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

+Deevla Hey, thanks very much Deevla.

[@RickJones222]

Beautiful work! Wow!

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thank you Rick.

[@rebeccapalmer5494]

Very nicely done sir

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thank you very much Rebecca.

[@RickJones222]

Awesome job!

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thanks Rick, cheers mate.

[@pt115823]

Enjoyed the video. Very nice work even if you talk funny on that side of the pond.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Haha, cheers mate. glad you liked it

[@williamfreeh9598]

great video and nice work. i had an issue with the volume of your voice which was up and down and the other noises like the jointer itself. the volume of the other noises was very high in comparison. i had my finger on my volume control through out the entire video. you might want to get a better mic on your person. still all in all i enjoyed the video.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Yeah, sorry about that. its one of my earlier videos. I sorted the sound issue out a while ago now. Thanks for the feedback.

[@Gramarrowsmith]

Awesome revamp mate, "looks loyke a brought one" as they say downunder!

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

+The Pallet Hippie Yeah sure does mate. Thanks.

[@tysonmcclellan7108]

How did you get the infeed/outfeed tables off

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Hey Tyson. From memory you have to loosen the adjustment shims on the slides and then just wind the height adjustment handles all the way out until the spindle disengages from the nut.

[@barrydyson8573]

Hi mate great video handy guy to know if I get stuck

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Ha, no worries mate.

[@PLaTerra]

Don’t the knives turn the opposite way in Australia??? Just kidding. - entertaining vid as always.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Haha, isn't that just our toilets? Thanks Paul, glad you enjoyed it.

[@shesaraokavdkar4512]

Machine ki price kya hai

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Hi, i paid $400 AUD and i sold it for the same amount.

[@sureshot311]

That came out awesome.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thank you very much for your comment. Apologies for the late reply but I'm trying to clear my "Comments I haven't responded to" list.

[@gregoryeastwood9068]

Nice! Very good job!

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thanks Gregory

[@LanceMcGrew]

All that effort to paint and not do the blade guard too? Nice job on the restoration however.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thanks Lance. There actually was a reason for that. Because it was a safety feature i just thought that it needed to stand out. I can see your point though.

[@billjoe2116]

Looks like the brand General

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Hi Bill, I've been told its a Taiwanese Generic 8" Jointer. No idea of any brand name though. At least its not a Chinese generic as I first thought.

[@johnlaplante8626]

Nice video! The camera following your every move, well, not so nice IMHO.

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Haha, thanks for the feedback John. So you didn't like the selfie stick shot, neither did I mate thats why I haven't done it again since.

[@marvincderuyscher9676]

Nice job! :^)

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thank you Marvin.

[@pabloechevarriamazon1448]

La compro $3000

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Thanks, but its sold.

[@terrellbradshaw3504]

Has anybody ever told you that you look a little like Steven Seagal?

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

lol, actually yes they have. :-)

[@stevebruford991]

I hope you are an electrician as you shouldn't do your own electrics in australia

[@DownUnderWoodWorks]

Yes Steve, I am a qualified Electrician, have been for over 30 years (oops, giving away my age). I agree with you mate, I shake my head when I see all the unqualified KZbinrs doing their own electrical.