Regenerative Agriculture Podcast Extra - Robert F Kennedy Interviews John Kempf

John Kempf, Advancing Eco Agriculture Founder and Chief Vision Officer was a guest on the ‪@TeamKennedy24‬ podcast. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is a presidential candidate in the 2024 election. His career in public service began in 1985 as an attorney for the environmental nonprofit RiverKeeper. He eventually became one of the most influential environmentalists in the United States, receiving TIME Magazine's "Hero of the Planet” and the Sartisky Peace Award.
In this episode, Robert and John discuss:
The transition from intensive pesticide use to ecological farming
The discovery and application of plant immune systems to resist diseases and pests
Economic incentives in transitioning to regenerative agriculture
Importance of systemic approaches in disease management
Need for collective will and alliances to implement solutions
All views and opinions expressed by the host and guests of the Regenerative Agriculture Podcast are solely their own and do not reflect the opinions of Advancing Eco Agriculture (AEA), its affiliate companies, or the companies with which the guests are affiliated. The appearance of a guest on the Regenerative Agriculture podcast does not constitute an endorsement by AEA or its affiliates.
About John Kempf
John Kempf is the founder of Advancing Eco Agriculture (AEA). A top expert in biological and regenerative farming, John founded AEA in 2006 to help fellow farmers by providing the education, tools, and strategies that will have a global effect on the food supply and those who grow it.
Through intense study and the knowledge gleaned from many industry leaders, John is building a comprehensive systems-based approach to plant nutrition - a system solidly based on the sciences of plant physiology, mineral nutrition, and soil microbiology.
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[@danlefever6254]

While listening to this interview, I was sitting there with tears of intense emotion , washing my face, as I entertained the thought, and the potential of what it could mean, to have a person of integrity in the presidency who understands how regenerating agriculture can regenerate the global human society as a whole! Thank you John and Bobby for delving into the possible, for a debacle that appears impossible.

[@samgarcia3807]

A presidential candidate talking about regenerative agriculture?! Has my vote

[@ttanne7838]

This guy does not have my vote. Kennedy is still far left.

[@alyssascharf4581]

@@ttanne7838 Please keep an open mind! He is trying to unify our country - labels and tribalism need to stop so we can all work together again.

[@jackson8085]

@@ttanne7838 That's hilarious because I think he is far right.. go figure. Maybe it's not about right vs left, or, urban vs rural.

[@johndoudna7055]

The conversations are priceless in a degenerated media and politically dismissive, suppressive environment.

[@bobthrasher8226]

Thankful someone is raising awareness to a broader audience concerning regenerative Ag and regulatory-capture in particular. RFKJr's demeanor with his opponents is truly refreshing.

[@JohnMarsing]

Interviewed by RFK Jr., that's pretty cool John 👍 You did a great job explaining permaculture and articulated well the promise of a bright future. RFK Jr. interviewing you was a wise choice.

[@user-yj2gw2lo8y]

Very glad you had him on. Great episode!!

[@kitmburau]

Way to go AEA!!!! You got RFK’s attention!!!!

[@authenticexpression9725]

Imagine Bobby making John secretary of Agriculture! Talk about changing the world from the ground up!!!

[@TroyOlmstead]

Great.... In ten years, his word will be gospel in Canada

[@leonieshanahan7280]

The world is in safe hands when we have such role models like these 2. Much gratitude. Sending love and microbes 😁💗

[@James-ol2fr]

Would love to know more about how your deep dive into this subject after realizing the recommended chemicals failed as well as your communitys response to the pandemic restrictions changed your or your familys views on governmental authority! This was an interesting interview! Id heard much of these stories but it was the first time flr some of these details. I dont care if you agree or disagree with Mr. Kennedy. Im glad people of different walks can have conversations. Funny this switch of reading to listening. I used to click away from video news "articles," hating anything not written, now if its not in audio form, i have a hard time taking in the information. John, you have given so much information away for free, but how does one go about finding a mentor in this space? -Kat

[@YLYL-OutThere]

I feel like you will find some of the answers to your questions by listening to more of his interviews. If you wanted a mentor, maybe you should take a PDC preferably taught by one of the greats. If they can't be your mentor they probably could point you in the right direction.

[@melodini3125]

Great conversation. I just watched it over on Bobby’s channel. Thank you both!

[@phoenixhabitats]

Hi John, this is a terrific conversation. Your monologue at 37 minutes about expanding our collective capacity for meaningful stewardship was inspiring and I'll dare to say that it sounded presidential. However, I'm surprised to see a collaboration with Robert F. Kennedy during an election year in which he is running for President. The inherent nature of this interview and surrounding context of the upcoming election makes this extremely difficult to interpret this as anything other than a political endorsement by you and AEA. I understand that the description on this video has a disclaimer to say the opposite, but that is not satisfactory or believable. You are not hosting RFK on the "John Kempf" youtube platform - this is the official AEA podcast and youtube channel. As a result, this conversation represents both you and AEA's political inclinations. Personally, I have enjoyed the lack of political commentary on this podcast over the past year, and have always thought that one of the strengths of Regenerative Agriculture is it's ability to remain grounded in science, free from political white noise, and inclusive of all political views. That belief lead me to become a small financial investor in AEA recently, as I believe in the mission and ability to reach both sides of the aisle. However, RFK's presence on this podcast is inherently polarizing and has tarnished that impression for me in a small way. In the future, with such guests of political importance and potential polarizing views, I would ask that you do a better job to claim political impartiality verbally during the podcast. If you'd like to use the AEA podcast for political discourse, than more guests with different political persuasions would also help to achieve impartiality. Lastly, fact checking all guests is extremely important in order to avoid promoting mis-information. For example, a link to the CDC report that RFK mentioned, as well as other disclaimers about statistics that he shared would be critical for listeners avoid sharing potential false information with their communities (and saying that they heard it on the AEA podcast). I'm not able to find the CDC report he mentioned, so please follow up and post that for everyone. Thank you again for all your work and efforts to remain more inclusive and impartial going forward. I believe that this is critical for AEA's mission as a national and global force for the adoption of Regenerative Agriculture practices.

[@humanointegral]

It depends on perspective. Another way to look at it is: regenerative agriculture, specifically AEA’s approach, is so important right now, that not giving it as much exposure as possible is criminal. From that perspective, declining a podcast opportunity with RFK is the most ridiculous idea ever. You can also look at RFK’s context in many ways. He’s been podcasting for a long time. He’s been an environmentalist for his whole life. But in any case, if you ask me, him having this conversation in an election year makes it even more promising

[@phoenixhabitats]

@@humanointegral I see your point about increased exposure with RFK's audience. However, not all exposure is constructive. For some people, an appearance with RFK is akin to an appearance with Trump, Putin, or any other polarizing political figure. Yes, it may increase exposure. But it may also ostracize half of your audience and ultimately reduce the listener base because of polarization. So it's a net harmful effect for growing a sustainable, long-term audience. Again, I think it's fine to do this, and there are just some other practices to consider to appear fair and balanced, and avoid polarization of the message (which is that everyone should adopt regenerative practices).

[@veziqiniso4425]

Key listening & learning points: 03:21 Farm situated in region with lots of cloud cover and high humidity favoring disease development. 05:00 Agrarian culture & heritage & work ethic and adoption of selected new technologies. 06:35 Pest & disease problems escalating with increased chemical use; unsuccessful in managing certain pests and diseases chemically. 06:57 experience with cultivating adjacent rented field with no previous intensive chemicsl application history.

[@russellradwanski5771]

Wow this is incredible! I love AEA regenerative podcasts, and to hear a Presidential candidate taking interest in this and speaking with yourself is incredibly encouraging!

[@hermandejong4309]

Two of my youtube hero's in one podcast! I'm dutch so no voting for me in RFKJ but he would get my vote!

[@markus_selloi]

I feel really bad that right after I recommended your work in one of my university lectures, you release work with this charlatan.. This throws shade on your incredible legacy..

[@projectmalus]

Great interview, thanks.

[@C.Hawkshaw]

This was great! Bobby Kennedy you should go visit Justin Rhodes and Greg Judy, they’ve got great reegn farms.

[@C.Hawkshaw]

regenerative

[@suegentry2913]

Amazing!

[@redhotsizzle2121]

This candidate uses the internet

[@matthewkheyfets1309]

Well this is kinda a big one 😂

[@indica_dogo868]

First 30 minutes, Robert only concerned with Amish life. John trying to talk about Regenerative Ag lol

[@tradcon3096]

Regenerative agriCULTURE. Can’t separate these things if you really want to understand the whole.

[@alyssascharf4581]

A lot of people aren't familiar with how the Amish culture is structured. I think it was an excellent opportunity to share their experiences and how that influences John's work in Regenerative Ag!

[@Spencer_Plant_Projects]

RFK jr should be commended for his environmentalism but his obsession with vaccines as an area to focus on is so disappointing. He doesn't do a good job of convincing me that he isn't just a different flavor of political grifter when I take him as a whole instead of his individual positions...

[@YLYL-OutThere]

I couldn't disagree with you more. Though he has many other positions I disagree with.

[@melodini3125]

Thank goodness for the work he has done in regards to vaccines! I’m saying this as a pediatric medical provider and I can’t tell you what a treasure he has ended up being. After spending hours upon hours following up on his sources I’ve found him to be very solid in regards to data. I’ve been regularly looking at what he has been up to for almost a decade now. His approach to the environment and to health (which are intrinsically related, vaccines pretty much do to the human virome/biome what pesticides and GMOs do to the plants and soil) are so incredibly vital. I don’t agree with him on everything but I trust him and his ability to deeply research and to evolve his perspective based on the data he finds. I understand why regenerative farming works because I understand how to treat vax injured kids. They are the same on a very basic level.

[@danlefever6254]

If you do a deep dive into the history of vaccines as Bobby has, I think you will come to the same or similar conclusion that vaccines may never have done what has been attributed to them in the public health arena. Worse they, in the last 50 years, have become a way for large pharmaceutical companies to rake in gigantic revenues at the expense of we taxpayers with no liability for any of the adverse reactions and detrimental side effects known to occur for some recipients of all classes of vaccine. Want to see the evidence? Explore CDC'S Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System . Any claims for damages by vaccines to the recipient are paid by your government, funded by you as a taxpayer, not the lucrative big pharma companies developing, producing and marketing vaccines at a profit, since the have been absolved of all liability since 1986 by an act of congress. Dig in to the real story in Brian Hooker PhD's and RFK Jr's collaborative book "Vax- Unvax".

[@Spencer_Plant_Projects]

@@melodini3125 RFK jr has stretched the "findings" of many of his cited material. Confirmation bias is not critical analysis of literature. Can you tell me, which one of the sources you read really set off a lightbulb for you? As someone well versed in scientific literature I would love to read it.

[@melodini3125]

@@Spencer_Plant_Projects what set off the lightbulb for me was my clinical practice and talking with some of my other colleagues about what I was observing and comparing it to what they were. I discovered the data that was available and realized I was not only not alone in what I was seeing but that there was a huge amount of data out there that I had been unaware of. I think I first started digging through a bunch of the SIDS stuff but I don’t remember what part of that had any connection to Bobby. I know he has referenced SIDS data but my SIDS research was stuff I pulled from all over and was before I started saving links or studies so it would take a long time to try to find it all again. I do remember that one of the earlier studies that I do connect with Bobby was the vaxxed/unvaxxed retrospective study that came out of Africa (I’m sorry it’s been a long time so I’m forgetting which country and the name of the doctor, however I do know it’s one of the studies referenced in the new book Bobby recently published with Dr. Brian Hooker. I think the book is called Vaxed/Unvaxed? Sorry I’ll have to come back later on with some links). Dr. Paul Thomas was a colleague of mine and when his data came out Bobby and Del Bigtree and a bunch of us started really trying to gather together any vax/unvax studies that were out there and compile them. I remember Bobby at one point put out graphs made from the data he collected and I want to say there was around 60 pages of it and it pulled together what he had found thus far. The study from Africa that I’m forgetting the Dr on was part of that data. It was the one looking at all cause mortality in children who had gotten vaccinated or not and the DPT data was particularly alarming especially among girls. Have you read Turtles All the Way Down yet? There’s a lot of data referenced in that one. It’s not Bobby specific but if you’re interested in the data, it’s a great resource. I’ve got several 4 inch binders full of printed out studies over in my storage unit but to be honest I’m unlikely to go get them. Most of my vax research was stuff I did in 2017-2019, with the exception of the newer stuff that was coming out since then. From 2020 I was more focused on covid and how to treat it and then on the mess that those damn gene therapy shots have caused and trying to figure that out. It’s harder to deal with than regular vax injuries. It has some aspects that are almost like Lyme in their tenaciousness. It’s honestly disheartening because you feel like you’re trying to stop a run away train that’s going very fast on a very short track and often your skills and resources just aren’t enough. But what else are you going to do? You can’t abandon people who are suffering even if you haven’t found the solutions they need yet, you have to just keep trying. The silver lining though is that there’s at least 17k of us around the world working on trying to figure this out and sharing what we have found. Censorship forced us to find other ways to connect and share data and Bobby and CHD have been one of the conduits many of us connect through. I’ll see if I can come back later with some links for you. I probably should have found them before replying lol. Oh, also if you’re interested in really understanding the parallels between the health of the soil and the gut virome etc. check out the work of Dr. Zach Bush. Vaccines are an attempt to provide a knock off immune system that cripples the innate immune system of the body, likewise pesticides do a similar thing with plants. You can’t poison your way to health. The closest you can get is a really unhealthy knock off that’s extremely fragile and prone to unnecessary disease. Oh, also go look up the research of and Nobel prize acceptance speech of the guy who coined the term anaphylaxis. His assessment regarding the effects of injected protein makes it very clear that injectable vaccines will never work the way they want them to. Sorry again, I’ve forgotten his name, I’m so bad at remembering names and titles lol. But you can find him if you look up the origin of the term anaphylaxis. That was another lightbulb moment.

[@5ivearrows]

John Kempf's susceptibility to nonsense pseudoscience devalues his entire mission. I use AEA materials, and they are good. However every time he platforms and entertains people like RFK jr, Zach Busch, and the other absolute quacks he deligitamizes his own project as well as alternate agriculture as a whole. This junk needs to stop in regenerative agriculture spaces. We cannot afford nonsense.

[@bobthrasher8226]

Whatever you may think of RFKJR, I think John's engagement with him is going to help raise awareness of regenAg more broadly and that is a good thing.

[@5ivearrows]

@@bobthrasher8226 raising awareness of regenerative agriculture by linking it to incredibly unserious and embarrassing pseudo-science is not a win.

[@bobthrasher8226]

BTW, apart from this interview, in what way is John susceptible "to nonsense pseudoscience?" John's approach to crop management via measurement seems to be quite solid to me. He also has done the scientific homework and networked with more experienced mentors as well. That doesn't sound like a gullible person to me.

[@YLYL-OutThere]

I'd say get lost mate, but you already are.

[@5ivearrows]

@@bobthrasher8226 John has done plenty of good research and aligned himself with good people. His products and approach to a measurement based agriculture is extremely valuable. It is, however, blighted by his entertainment of a wide range of absolute nonsense that falls apart upon even superficial inspection. When he starts talking about paramagnetism, structured water, entertaining guests like Zach Busch and others- many people are just going to assume all of it is nonsense as a whole, and move on. Serious people do not buy this flimsy garbage. It's a real problem in eco ag and regen ag and alternative ag spaces. I was absolutely flabbergasted by the complete garbage being platformed at the most recent acres conference. Debunked "doctors" with fake degrees making verifiably and obviously ridiculous claims about cancer being a metabolic disease that can be cured by making tea out of weeds- of course selling supplements, seminars, and consultations to hurting and vulnerable people, booths about how to protect your crops from 5G- it was all over the place. The answer to misinformation being propagated by the corporate/university agricultural complex in the name of profit is not to go off the deep end into a lala land of magical thinking and conspiracy theory. The real and immediate reforms agriculture requires are not found in woo woo and tripe. We need to be serious here.

[@asmith2680]

Disappointed that you’ve given this person a platform. Diminishes your own, sadly

[@alyssascharf4581]

What other candidates are concerned about the health of our soils and foods, let alone start conversations with real people? This is an existential problem. Please watch Who is Bobby Kennedy to see how media has misrepresented his positions in the past 10-15 years. I promise you he is not the monster he has been painted as.