reign: when historical accuracy isn't sexy 😬

[@daydreamer8941]

I think Lola being pregnant by Frances during a one nightstand was one of the worst creative decision that the show did

[@eaglebeagle450]

I literally stopped watching when this happened 😅 never finished it lol

[@SweetlyxJules]

genuinely one of the worst things they did on that show

[@altinaykor364]

what do you say about this part? He was hardly 15 at the time! barely a man with full puberty😬😬😬

[@AnniCarlsson]

What? Why can't she have sex becouse she is pregnant?

[@HirilCelebrian]

We really should have known when a medieval character named "Lola" popped up on screen

[@saphadill7069]

Catherine was the GOAT in this show. She carried the whole thing on her scheming shoulders! I need to rewatch this show!

[@jennaberry2]

have you watched The Serpent Queen on Starz? It's about Catherine and has some overlap with Reign

[@rachelgrubman4606]

I second this recommendation of the Serpent Queen!! Catherine is just a very fascinating and fun historical figure and while Reign may have not been historically accurate it did keep the essence of who Catherine was (which is why I think she carried the show in many ways). The Serpent Queen is a super fun show and gives you a better understanding of who she was and the actual historical things she got up to

[@LillianYarney]

Catherine was all that and a bag of chips I was sad we never saw her ending.

[@Noastrange]

Evil Anne of Green Gables!

[@suemommie]

I just didn’t like how they depicted Mary in the show….

[@daydreamer8941]

I think one of the saddest things about the IRL Mary is because she spent the majority of her life in France it was said she wanted to be buried in France but her request was denied and she was in England

[@MsJayteeListens]

There’s no evidence for the France thing and she’s buried in Westminster Abbey.

[@summeryick5641]

yeah but the optics of a Scottish Queen dying in Scotland then being buried in France just isn't great, especially since James didn't really give a shit about her

[@hobbleit]

Even worse, Mary was buried in England. Firstly in Peterborough and then moved to Westminster Abbey.

[@MsJayteeListens]

@@summeryick5641 Mary didn’t die in Scotland and to be fair to James, he had a lifetime of misogynists poisoning his mind against her. The fact he moved her showed he did care something for her

[@hashaintswan]

I care less about that a person like Mary didn’t got huge money spend on move her body in France. People now idolise her too much ignoring how she wasn’t any good.

[@TillyTooWills]

My special interest is the Tudor period as well as fashion history so when I watched Reign I instantly understood that this was not meant to be accurate and I looked at it, as mentioned, as an AU fanfic. And I'm not going to lie - I loved it.

[@LillianYarney]

Fr it was fun to watch there are tons of "historically accurate" books, movies and TV shows. Reign was fun and I rewatch it frequently as the shows of today don't have the vibe.

[@brooklynnspruill1646]

@@LillianYarney period Reign is such a vibe! got my friends hooked on it in 2019. now im about to rewatch lol

[@LillianYarney]

@@brooklynnspruill1646 Fr people in these comments are hating for no reason it was a fun watch period👏🏼👏🏼

[@theresabu3000]

It was a fun show - but the costumes are so far from anything historic, never seen before. Especially the young women. The storylines are equally ridiculous, but that's also expected.

[@klarapopilkova5791]

@@LillianYarney I get the point you are trying to make but there really are not that much historically accurate books/movies/tv shows. Like people think there are so many but the number would be really around like under ten if we really counted it. Thats why some people are really mad when someone says some media is "historical" and not just "history inspired" which would be much better term. But ive seen you make this point through the whole comment section, so which are historically accurate from your pov?

[@connection7165]

I've never watched Reign, but I NEVER thought it would be a period drama lol I thought it was modern fantasy. I would love to see a Once Upon a Time video from you.

[@cxncxrtmxstxr]

Flashback to Elsa's atrocious dress

[@dumbledoresgotstyle]

+++

[@Sunshine34891]

haha, recapping that (even this fast) would still take her 5 hours! but I would also really like to see that

[@Jomama-man]

i thought it was fantasy as well

[@NormieNeko]

I started watching it, but I felt confused by the costume choices early on. I couldn't get past the 1st season, and I struggled to finish it.

[@strawberriesandcandy]

BABE putting Downton Abbey into the “erotic historic” category is a WILD take 🤣🤣

[@ostatnifajek128]

Agree. It's more romantic then erotic, and even that not so much in comparison

[@annamelanie6494]

yeah that gave prude tbh

[@ItsCarissawithaC]

Nothing erotic about Downton. I love the show, but it's proper miserable.

[@Victoria-_]

Fr 😂😂

[@cass2638]

never seen it, but i was kinda like okay... i didn't know those downton abbey folks got freaky like that lol

[@riverAmazonNZ]

Anna Popplewell is sooo pretty. But if you know anything about historical clothing this show’s costuming is absolutely nuts

[@meganjaime7728]

Agreed! Never watched this show, but I know her from Narnia. Always thought she was pretty.

[@EstherHulst-Artist]

I didn't watch Reign exept the first episode. It was just to cringe for me.

[@ruthsimonebaptista9553]

Awful 😅😅😅

[@ruthsimonebaptista9553]

@@EstherHulst-Artistsame

[@_kim123]

It didn’t fit that time period but I love that they did that. The clothing was really beautiful at times. They still explored the character’s personalities and growth well through clothing.

[@HirilCelebrian]

I don't know if it's fair to lump Downton Abbey in with sexy shows.. unless you find Carson sexy then by all means

[@chryss4515]

THANK you

[@abygalegonzalez4074]

What are you talking about? Mr. Carson was peak daddy! 😍

[@lilbunny9833]

And what if i Do!

[@fantasticbeck3938]

I mean, Mrs Hughes did

[@theresabu3000]

They never even showed any steamy scenes there - not even glimpses of bare skin. If you saw an ankle it was scandalous 😂😇

[@SweetlyxJules]

I KNOW the costuming was such an insane thing in this show but I loved it so much 😅 It was so dramatic and campy and just peak CW

[@jessycaone4276]

Same I love this show it’s so good😭

[@LillianYarney]

I rewatch it often Idk why everyone is hating. There are tons of accurate books, movies, and documentaries for the time period. Why can't we just let reign exist in that fun CW era.

[@Jomama-man]

@@LillianYarney Fr. It's just having some fun.

[@LillianYarney]

@@Jomama-man Fr it's a fun watch I rewatch it often because lots of shows nowadays don't have the same vibe.

[@vainpiers]

​@@LillianYarney because the designing has no consistency and is inaccurate.

[@randomgirlreviews]

I loved Reign during the first couple seasons, but stopped watching after Francis died. I loved him and Mary together so much, him dying broke my 13 year old heart😭

[@myrandapistokache6653]

Its no good afterwards anyways, the rest of season 3 felt slow but then season 4 was so rushed

[@anabelisdreaming]

it still breaks my heart to this day and i‘m 21 now, i should really get over it tbh 😭

[@whocares12345]

Reign walked so Bridgerton could run.

[@tsarina24honolulu87]

Both are blah and not historic.

[@HH-wq6se]

Couldn't get into either of them, too distracted

[@zandikhetwayo7444]

@@tsarina24honolulu87Womp womp they’re fun, who cares about historical accuracy😭😭that’s the whole point of the show

[@joylipumano]

There’s so many characters introduced in the first 10 minutes. I can’t keep up.

[@serebii666]

In the immortal words of Patrick Star: WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?!

[@JilTheReal]

You would love GoT 😅

[@galax_aly]

Reign started my love for historical dramas although it really isnt all that accurate! I still enjoy rewatching till this day for the shits and giggles. Frary will always have my heart

[@adri_makeup]

Yess samee i remember while watching it i was curious about the actual ppl n did actual research on them. It definitely was the show tht started my love for history in general

[@yalisflowerstore6992]

Me

[@aquarimas]

the gowns look like they're going to prom 😭😭😭

[@saymyname2417]

Temu.

[@josephjarosch8739]

Fun fact: The first season had such a low budget that a lot of these costumes are, in fact, secondhand prom-dresses with some extra modifications to make them look more old-fashioned.

[@aquarimas]

@@josephjarosch8739 omg that's why 😭

[@ostatnifajek128]

Catherine de Medici carried the whole show on her back. Megan Follows was iconic in this role

[@emmabluu]

i was an og fan! literally remember all the episodes coming out when i was 13. i could not wait until another episode was aired every thursday! frary is always my ride or die fr

[@tinaodekunle8163]

the reign, vampire diaries, and originals marathon went offfffff. my tween mind was beside itself lmao

[@caleb1o198]

"Bash simply didn't exist, not that I cared" realest of real.

[@LillianYarney]

Fr I love Bash and whenever the actor is in another show I'm like Leo in the Meme I'm like Bash!!!😂😂😂

[@lilwinborne]

I still love Reign for their costumes and, certain characters like Francis & Mary!! Adore the Tudors so much fun to watch not every show is historically accurate! Also, Princess Claude is very sassy enjoyed seeing more of her 💗 Thank you for 86 likes, wow!

[@patriciaa4451]

The red coronation gown lives rent free in my head.

[@wendynerd1199]

The Tudors is insanely inaccurate.

[@carrywon8767]

Accurate.... she said.

[@lilwinborne]

@@patriciaa4451 Such a pretty dress and one of my favorite scenes!!

[@lilwinborne]

@@wendynerd1199 I know, thanks

[@pauieeepau]

My sister got into this show knowing Francis dies coz of her being into historical stories at the time. She liked the characters but kept complaining about the Coachella fashion lol.

[@lila-armand]

I can honestly say that I've been begging for this video for years as someone who is generally a stickler for historical accuracy reign was able to captivate me even with it's blatant disregard of time period, and even to this day I am still the biggest FRARY stan with the show being both comforting and nostalgic. As someone who often doesn't write comments particularly ones that are this long I really enjoyed the video and the different opinion as usually the show is admonished for both it's storylines and costuming but I truly enjoyed your appreciation for the show. I absolutely love your content and have been a loyal follower for many years now and I don't think you'll ever fully understand how much i loved this video particularly as I have been begging for it for so long. The research and dedication you put into each video is astonishing and as someone who has watched the show multiple times it's very long and I know it took a while even just to be able to give a brief summary of each respective season. As far as further shows for videos Once Upon A time, The Borgias and My Lady Jane.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

Definitely need a video for "The Other Boleyn Girl"!

[@krn2683]

Which one? There's two and they're both equally bad in different ways.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

@krn2683 The 2008 film. Personally, it's my favorite historical fiction film.

[@thielnineteen]

This is so funny! I literally just finished rewatching Reign and then the Tudors less than a month ago. Its so cringe at times, but they are so much fun to watch. It just gets crazier!! Btw, the actor that played Catherine MADE that show.

[@Marlodrama]

In every sense of the word, Cathrine was Mother

[@Lapeocon]

I've loved that actress, Megan Follows, ever since I was a child and saw her play Anne in the Anne of Green Gables movies.

[@swiftersakasequinedbootlickers]

Seconding the love for Megan Fallows, our OG Anne! ❤ Absolutely ruled the show

[@myrandapistokache6653]

I am rewatching the Tudor’s right now! I just finished my rewatch of The White Queen which is my all time favorite, I suppose reign is up next when I’m finished with the tudors

[@ailin113093]

merlin, for sure, i feel like it flies so much under the radar but its a very fun show

[@klorrainekelley]

Merlinnnnn!

[@LillianYarney]

@@ailin113093 Merlin thooo Gwen and Arthur don't get enough credit.

[@ar_raine3195]

Merlin is so underrated

[@valeriarossini543]

​@@LillianYarney Gwen and Morgana were my favorites

[@LillianYarney]

@@valeriarossini543 They were awesome I completely agree the writing choices to make Morgana evil was annoying. But Merlin is definitely a good show tho.

[@natsoibatian]

The way I gasped when I saw this video in my subscriptions! I've been dying to see some sort of video talking about the costuming on Reign for years and this was it. I actually love the fashion in it for the most part, I prefer it over historical accuracy

[@aberrantcow]

I was OBSESSED with the first 2 seasons of this show back when it was airing. I always wondered if you were going to cover it one day. Great video!

[@abiStalli]

this the first show that made me realise historical shows could be fun idk lmaoo i would have never watched something like GOT or bridgerton if reign wasnt my gateway 🤣🤣 the way it ended hurt me too bad.

[@daniellarkins3849]

Both shows are fantasy pieces, love.

[@abiStalli]

​@@daniellarkins3849 fantasy pieces based in what time period, love?

[@daniellarkins3849]

@abiStalli Non historical fantasy with Party City dresses. Hope I clarified, sweetie.

[@abiStalli]

​@@daniellarkins3849 how is it a non historical if it is literally set in 1500, are you okay sweetie? did the party city dresses hurt your feelings?

[@abiStalli]

@@daniellarkins3849 bruv its literally based in the fifteen hundreds lmaoo, did the party city dresses hurt ur feelings sweetie?

[@jo_jo_jo]

"Mary, Greer, Kenna, Lola and Aylee". Oh, yes, all the good olde traditional European names.

[@greenghoul157]

Greer and Kenna are my great great great grandparent's surnames they tried

[@svietlana5091]

Greer and Kenna are Scottish names, I don’t know how old they are though. Lola is Spanish and short for Dolores, sounds dumb anyway. Aylee was supposed to be some variation of Aileen I guess?

[@aduckofsomesort]

My friend these are in fact old traditional European names

[@jo_jo_jo]

@@aduckofsomesort I know. But they also seem very mismatched for a period show, with that Lola and Aylee there. Like, they took traditional names and tried to make them edgy. And what country is even this? Scot-Engla-France-Spain? 🤣🤣 It's giving Winx over there. Are you sure there's not a Tecna who's good at Medieval computers too? LMAO.

[@Mina-hm2og]

Shows like this or Bridgerton are fun and very enjoyable despite being inaccurate, maybe because they are inaccurate, because most if us are not familiar with these times in history. They are also a great way to make history interesting and prompt all ages to read historical books and learn, which is always a good thing.

[@Geo_Babe]

Tudor historian here, who saw showtimes The Tudors when it first aired as a teenager and clearly, it had a massive influence on my life and pursuit within academia. That said,I think it’s far fetched to lump the Tudors in the same category as Reign! They couldn’t be more different…built for diff audiences, entirely diff costumes, diff time period, massive budget and acting talent difference. I get so irked when my fellow historians rip on TT as listen, it’s a tv series that needs a narrative that’s easy to follow for the layman, yet stimulating for the informed, and I feel in retrospect this series has not gotten the praise it deserves. Creator Michael Hirst was no dummy. He had to know the rules in order to break them and he did precisely that! There are a lot of (intentional) campy moments, yes,but there’s also some hyper focused historically accurate moments that are worth celebrating over its 4 seasons. A series like Reign didn’t even try, and that’s ok as it’s built for an entirely diff crowd… I see in some of the comments it also served as a gateway drug into the real history for some of you, as TT did for me many years ago and that’s fabulous! That’s the point of historical fiction. So I don’t clown either series, but they certainly aren’t at the same level either!

[@aasthade0309]

Well said! I was genuinely surprised by actually how historically accurate The Tudors was, because after watching a few episodes of Reign, I thought it'd be the same..thank God I was wrong. Sure, the costumes in The Tudors are wrong, but the story is well written and the show so well shot imho, even the scenes where they took creative liberty..so, i like it

[@waverider9920]

This has to be fate because I just finished rewatching this and I remember every last detail I wasn't lost at all. This show will always be one of my favorites. BTW I'd love to see you make a video on Bridgerton

[@saphadill7069]

Ooooh where did you watch it? It’s gone from Netflix! 😢

[@hockeygrrlmuse]

I thought these costumes couldn't hurt me anymore because I had finally fully internalized the sad fact that it was basically a prom dress showcase. Then the ensemble at 1:51 popped up and I very nearly screamed aloud

[@hockeygrrlmuse]

"1897 is close enough to 1540, right?" "Oh totally. It's all Ye Olden Times!"

[@alicesimone3190]

OMG A REIGN VIDEO ESSAY IN 2024!!

[@VeneficusPlantaGenista]

I haven’t watched the show, but from what you say, it sounds like they combined the real-life Claude of France with her youngest sister, Marguerite, who is a much more controversial and scandalous figure (whether deserved or not)

[@gentleheart7107]

When comes to Reign, there were two things I was totally obsessed with - Frary and clothes. It was not mediaval at all, but gosh, I would wear it everyday.

[@jada-1680]

I have never heard of this show but i see moderngurlz video i click 🧚🏼

[@MaggieMono5poly]

I was obsessed with Mary Queen of Scots and I looooved this show. The historical inaccuracy never bothered me, and surprisingly the sexual assault plotline didn't either. I remember it being handled so carefully and leading to some fantastic performances from Adelaide Kane and Megan Follows.

[@jessica_jade97]

I’m obsessed with historical content always have been! I’m head over heels for anything that is historically accurate but I also love seeing people have fun with it! I feel like in shows or moves that have so many modern touches in its storyline like reign how cares as long they look great! Save historically accurate clothing for moves that are trying to be historically accurate 😂

[@MissDatherinePierce]

Interesting that you mention that the "bad" guys got more historical clothes. My interpretation had always been that the older/more mature the character was supposed to be the more they more historical aka conservative styles, which also kinda explained Mary's style change for me as she grew into her role as queen. Btw since you mentioned The Empress? Have you ever made a video about the Sisi craze and how different each drama dresses her? There were two series about a young Sisi in recent years (The Empress and Sisi (2021) aka Sisi: Austrian Empress) as well as two movies about an older Sisi with Corsage and Sisi & I. All have a very fictional take of her in my opinion and vastly different approaches to costuming.

[@aliceinavalon]

I have a lot of cosplaying friends who will often make digs at Reign’s lack of costume accuracy, which I understand why, but then at the same time we’ll all gush about fantasy webtoons and anime with elaborate dresses and plots. I personally think two things can be true at the same time, and in this case, it was still a formative series that got many of us into historical dramas and it had some interesting plots while also acknowledging where its plot and costumes can still have their criticisms. I remember being into this series at a time when I was still just shy of being able to watch The Borgias and other mature series, so it fulfilled that for the while.

[@adri_makeup]

I can kinda see their reasoning tho cuz those anime’s and webtoons r meant to fantastical while Reign was supposed to be derived frm actual history so some of the outfits can be jarring in setting. Tht being said tho I did love this series n it did start my love for historical dramas

[@youdontgetaname2904]

It's not just that they don't look properly historically, but how specifically modern the look. The gowns don't inspire me to even think of beautiful fantasies, the just look like amped up Halloween costumes

[@vainpiers]

The costuming is also inconsistent.

[@scandor3212]

I'm ngl I'm genuinely so glad I found this channel, spitting nothing but facts

[@webuiltthepyramids3446]

At first I hated that the hairstyles and the clothes were absolutely not accurate, but after the first episode I loved it. The dresses are so pretty and you can tell someone put alot of thought and alot of work into it.

[@Kyttii]

I have never been happier to see the notification for this!!! I spent the entire watchthrough fussing about clothing inaccuracies and now I get to hear it properly done. 🥰

[@marisp2588]

What I find hilarious is that all four of Mary's ladies in waiting were ALSO named Mary!

[@Sonia-vk4pm]

I love Reign fully aware of all the nonsense and creative liberties. Nostalgia does crazy things and it became an ultimate comfort show for me - turns out that it doesn’t even have to be good to be enjoyed

[@cherrywine1460]

One of my biggest pet peeves with this show beyond some ridiculous storylines was definitely the fashion. It was so different from shows like the Tudors or even The Borgias for example and I'm no expert but the clothes always gave me the feeling of being something from 2013 rather than trying to recreate something historical, if that makes sense.

[@eclipsicalbluestocking1182]

Apparently a lot of the costumes were just taken from thrift stores. I take my issues with Bridgerton's costumes but that show can at least fake the fashions in a way that feels natural.

[@WinxClubTeamAvatar]

The borgias was definitely a lot more accurate!

[@marinaluna3252]

I think your last point is so great! we shouldn't have to feel guilty about it. Also I feel like we can enjoy something while still acknowledging that the storylines and costumes are more fancitionesque than historical ahahah

[@rebecky5ever]

I watched this show with my dad in my late teens and I HATED it. The costumes made me angry and the way they kept removing and adding characters got me so confused I didn't understand anything of the plot

[@tamsel814]

I tried to watch it multiple times. But the costumes (and hair styles) just took me out. It just took me right out of the story.

[@sanayakhan2042]

It’s a teen romance set in a historical period for drama. Are you dumb?

[@chelseashurmantine8153]

Dying giving birth to your ninth child at 27 is the least hot shit ever

[@graceneilitz7661]

Claude was married to the Duke of Loraine when she was twelve, she gave birth to her first known kid a few days before her sixteen birthday. So, she wasn’t pregnant every single year of her marriage.

[@sh1ttywidow943]

Man I remember seeing this and thinking that the costumes looked like the prom clearance section In Dillards 😅

[@user-uj2ku5fk7c]

I really don't think downton abbey can be describded as "erotic historic". I don't even think it has a an actual sex scene in its entire course. I'm pretty sure the entire 1st season has 2 kiss scenes in total

[@jo_jo_jo]

I have never seen 'Reign', but a couple of times I've intrigued by it. However, I never approximated to it because it seemed like another messy, chaotic CW show, but in costumes. Imagine my relief after hearing the first segment of the video. I don't think I could've ever imagined a show mixing supernatural mysteries, sexy teen drama, political intrigue and as many corsets as possible. Girl, it definitely was the fever dream I thought it was. I mean, it just lacked a crossover with Cheryl Blossom sending Blair Waldorf back in time just to discover who is A.

[@str3brry]

OMG i totally forgot about this show! i was going to watch it YEARS AGO but the love hexagons weren’t my thing 😭 (also bash lowkey reminds me of bran from got with the whole sacrifing an interesting character in favor of magic and shit 💀)

[@lilyaddonisio8897]

I don’t actually mind inaccurate fashion but while something like Bridgeton isn’t accurate, it at least keeps with the silhouette of the time period 😭 like give me something to work with, the outfits in this show don’t even look consistent within their own universe

[@ana-xx6tn]

Like you could wear some of them at a big party , like a weding and it would be almost normal

[@jessiepayang]

Omg, The Tudors! That was the show that really got me into historical/period dramas. even though the accuracy was questionable, it made me curious and interested in learning more and exploring other period dramas. i always find it so interesting to see how closely they can get to accuracy or how much liberty they take, specifically in costuming and storytelling. I do want to give Reign a try though, mainly because I absolutely adore Megan Follows.

What made me annoyed was Mary Queen of Scots’ story is fascinating on its own and makes a good teen drama. While her captivity was long, her early life is FULL of intrigue. Its embellishment for the sake of making it the 16th century gossip girl was unnecessary; specifically her ladies in waiting - who were interesting IRL - and random brother Bash the magician. The Tudors had similar problems where Henry had two awesome sisters, but they merged them into one character. So many missed opportunities. Far prefer if they did a sexier version of Wolf Hall, where Anne Boleyn was so accurately played (by Claire Foy).

[@LoveK1]

When Frances and Lola slept together I completely noped out. I quit the show when that happened and never finished it. I couldn’t get past that betrayal. Since then I’ve only seen clips and montages of the show.

[@akikaien6422]

The fact that Mary was pushed into being seen as the problematic one for being upset... Her reaction was completely understandable, and Lola had no right to still act like she was a loyal friend.

[@jamiegdubois]

The life of Mary Queen of Scots has been a special interest of mine for a while so I had a bit of a love/hate relationship with this show. I appreciate the show because it did make people more aware of who Mary was and her involvement with France and connection to the Medici family (another special interest of mine). That being said, I do wish they’d cast a French actress or at least someone who could do a reasonable French accent because, as you mentioned at 10:56, most depictions tend to give her a generic British accent or a Scottish accent.

[@thatboleyndog]

Please make a video about the show The Tudors (2007-2010)! It’s a bit like Reign because it prioritizes making an interesting story over historical accuracy but it’s much more well done!

[@altinaykor364]

at least The Tudors attempted to remain accurate to the story. although it wasn't completely well done, but at least there was an attempt🤷‍♀and unlike Reign, they didn't normalize or justify super red flags in life and treated them as they deserve

[@samriddhigupta5514]

​@@altinaykor364 I really like the scene where Henry is visited by his wives' ghosts at the end, the ones who he had children with, boy was he haunted. It's such a strong scene and you would think that on his deathbed he was getting some kind of realisation like that. They even showed his son as a ghost even though he was alive at the time, foreshadowing his early death and him having his worst fears realised.

[@mimimoonpie8190]

Fun fact: the actor who played Bash also played a character in The Tudors!

[@Geo_Babe]

Yep! Thomas culpepper in season 4 of the tudors - which was depicted for the most part pretty accurately

[@biankyflowers4829]

I never knew that Reign was about Mary of Scotland because of the absence of her red hair.

[@patriciaa4451]

I loved it in the first two seasons. I suppose I grew out of it. The modern references and costumes became too distracting. It’s possible to at least try to make it a bit more accurate but still interesting like in Wolf Hall or The Virgin Queen. The ending was so rushed too.

[@katherinealvarez9216]

I always come back to watching this show and now its a companion piece when I watch Serpent Queen.

[@TheFeminineLinguist]

"historically accurate? no. Sexy? Yes" - sums everything up tbh

[@autdumb4420]

STAWPPPP!!!🤣💀 WHY DID I JUST START REWATCHING THIS!!!😭😭🙏

[@amiramartinez4178]

girl same

[@seagaulle]

My historical specialty isn't Tudor England or fashion history, but when I tell you that even I could see how bad the costumes looked. They looked like the designers went to Party City and asked for vintage looking princess dresses.

[@autdumb4420]

My Lady Jane next PLS!!! WE WERE ROBBED OF A SECOND SEASON!!!😫🙌🙌🧎🧎😭🙏

[@lovestumacher]

WE REALLY WERE THO! I binged the first season, looked up when the second would come out, and I’m still pissed, especially since everyone else loved the show as well 😭

[@lilies2746]

yessss

[@LillianYarney]

I wanted a second season sooo bad it definitely gave Reign Vibes.

[@bluehydrangea5506]

I remember when the main actress said something in an interview along the lines of "young girls dont care about historical accuracy". And my thirteen yr old history loving self was offended.

[@dreamychocolateone]

Never heard of this show, but will I sit here for 25 minutes to hear one of my fave youtubers talk about it? YES! 😆

[@RandumYTenjoyer05]

Same I’ve never heard of this But please tell all about it and its costuming

[@dreamychocolateone]

@@RandumYTenjoyer05 Yup, spill all the tea!

[@lolsarah9357]

you should watch it lol its so good! cringy, yes, but good!

[@its_emilyanne]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE

[@Serai3]

Downton Abbey was an "erotic" show? That's news to me. What a strange thing to say.

[@ghostroads81]

People disliked Lola?? Lol I always loved her. She had it so rough, poor thing

[@Cereja-Lua]

You hit the nail on the head with the ending. I was never into the show; but, if (cishet) men can have anachronistic power fantasy dramas, why can't the girls and the gays? Also, it's funny to me, as a lesbian, that both Adelaide Keane and Caitlin Stasey eventually both came out as bi and pan respectively. And they both got their first big break on the Aussie soap Neighbours.

[@EnchantKnit]

The tv show Merlin had a decent costumes first season, but later King Arthur spends all day, every day in chain mail or full armor.

[@jessicagudino8461]

I know is fantasy show but the costume looked cheap and something you can see in Shein, the tudors with all mistakes the costume were beautiful, delicious

[@moritzmartini4132]

I´m divided. On one hand I love the costumes, even the modern ones.But on the other I also love historically accurate costumes. For me personally if it´s a show/movie about a real historical figure or event or if it´s clearly set in our world and history, then I prefer historically accurate costumes. But if it´s clearly set in a fantasy world, with fantasy world I mean NOT our world/planet, then they can do whatever they want with the costumes

[@alvarosager9206]

I never saw Reign, but this video made me want to look up where it's streaming...

[@olalala439]

actor who plays Frances is sooo pretty, I remember having a huge crush on him back in the day :D

[@toriwenzel2758]

The fashion was one of the best points for me lol why does everything have to be historically accurate? This is teen tv

[@christophercripps7639]

Certainly it would be best to focus on Mary Queen of Scots’ early years. Her story ends badly: The Dauphin dies. She is forced to abdicate and imprisoned while her son (the OG King James I/VI) was raised Protestant. Finally, Mary QOS found out that Henry VIII’s other daughter QE (I) had only so much patience. Tutor court could be a dangerous place - just ask Anne B, Catherine Howard, …

[@mpazinambao2938]

01:59 thought it was a stanly cup.

[@mariasemen5359]

I've been defending the costumes in reign for years now! I just think that as a teenager I loved the dresses. And the storyline was so inaccurate that for me it only added to the experience. Especially in the first season where they don't even pretend to be historical. Mary's huge coronation dress is just perfect for the scene I'll die in that hill. It also matches the styles and social standing of the girls. It fits the narrative. Reign is like the spiritual low budget predecessor to the great. (Also she was 15 in the show?? I had no idea)

[@LillianYarney]

@@mariasemen5359 Her first wedding dress was gorgeous people are just hating to hate. Those dresses were gorgeous fr.

[@travelsolo-r1z]

Yeah but they gave the Queen of Scots an ENGLISH accent...during a time where Scotland was in a centuries-long fight with England. Ignorant doesn't cut it

[@homurastan2927]

Mary queen of scots was like famously ginger and almost 6 foot tall... why wouldnt they cast an actress that even remotely resembles real life mary

[@shainahiggins2217]

As a tall redhead myself, I remember feeling personally slighted when casting for this show was announced. But in my own professional acting experience I would learn that there is a very real aversion to using women who might be as tall or taller than their male castmates, especially if the character is young and/or meant to be the subject of romantic attention. Despite the world being filled with girls of above average height, a lot of directors don't think they read as believably feminine on stage/screen. It's tall lady erasure is what it is.

[@MsJayteeListens]

@@homurastan2927 She was also Scottish and has never been played on screen by a Scottish actress

[@SafetySpooon]

@@MsJayteeListens Because she was raised in France

[@MsJayteeListens]

@@SafetySpooon That doesn’t explain why English, Australian and Irish actresses have played her.

[@annamelanie6494]

The show wasn't accurate in literally any way babes, it's all fanfiction AU

[@lashizzal7095]

Lola was the most hated character!?! When Kenna is right there😐

[@Cinaedfireborn]

It isn’t pronounced Claude (clod) especially in the French court. It would’ve either been pronounced either “claud-E” or “Claudette”.

[@thekikai]

The gilded age…. A BODICE RIPPER?? U kidding me?

[@jodieg6318]

What gets me the most about historical fiction is that it dosent take a lot of money to make costumes that are at last reasonable on screen; if reenactors can do a thriftstore haul and get a decent camp set up than a primetime show can.

[@user-bk9bs3oc8c]

this show really is nostalgic to me and idk why.. i think it was game of thrones for me when i was 14 ( bc i watched got like two years ago when i was 19-20) so they have the same vibe to me even tho they aren’t really the same. I just feel huge nostalgia for this show and the time when i was watching it. somewhat sadness too. idk how to explain it. never watched s4 though. i think the cast met like this year or last year too and idk i think with cw shows yes they are bad but somehow that bond that it creates between fans coming to these panels and meeting them and talking with them and taking pictures and stuff. it’s just so beautiful and hopeful and somehow like a corner of home and magic for all of us. like i just love all of it. i wish i was there bc i watched the shows like tvd or to or teen wolf or reign maybe later like right abt the time they were almost finished so i wasn’t even on twitter or fandom. but still i got to be a part of something. anyway it makes me feel nostalgic and sad bc a part of me wants to go back again. to an introvert shy girl this world was everything. and i still rewatch tvd or watch reactions to it. anywayss i was a lola fan bc i didnt know better and now i get why they would hate her. but the francis actor had chemistry with anne popplewell and still has a little crush on her in my opinion. not to get my shipping actors for controversial ships goggles on. when i first watched got i was a sansa and jonsa fan so yeah i get why

[@thefatfashionstudent2248]

Reign was MY SHOW in my last two years of high school, but I completely dropped off after season 2. I think I remember vaguely hearing about constant character deaths in later seasons, and once I knew they were introducing Elizabeth, my knowledge of real world history got too much in the way and I didn’t want to watch all my friends get killed off. In my heart, reign ended after s2, and honestly this recap only reinforces that! They killed Lola!???? Lola was always my favourite, I started watching the show for Anna Popplewell because I loved her in Narnia. From the costume perspective I agree 100% with everything you said, and also that it was SUCH a time capsule of 2013/14 fashion. Honestly like, reign was probably what got me interested properly for the first time in costume design, and I’ve gone on to study it and had t actually connected that reign was one of the first shows I got suuuper into the costuming of. I think historical accuracy has a place in storytelling, but it doesn’t have to be accurate in order to be inspiring! And inspiring and fun and melodramatic was the point, it was a show for teenagers and I love that it just. Was a show for teenagers. I’ll always have a soft spot for it, but I’m not watching s3 or 4 hahah

[@chelseashurmantine8153]

Oh my gosh this is such a good video. The way you summarized and then corrected was very entertaining

[@clandestinelheiaa]

Medieval women are all about modesty. The people behind these shows thought immodesty is prude (which is there is more to it than just bejng prude) and shoves their ideas unto our faces. They don't care about historical accuracy.

[@EstherHulst-Artist]

I adore Outlander(books too) Downton Abbey and the Gilded age But Bridgerton and Reign bad costumes personally take me out of the immersion. I did like the Tudors where I can see past it.

[@MsJayteeListens]

@@EstherHulst-Artist The bad history in Outlander doesn’t bother you?

[@EstherHulst-Artist]

@@MsJayteeListens it can always improve but to me Outlander is more of a fantasy. Its mostly fictional characters. But I do wish being as accurate as possible was more populair espealially with real historical people .

[@MsJayteeListens]

@@EstherHulst-Artist Jamie may not be real but Clan Fraser is, as are many of the characters misused in Outlander

[@shainahiggins2217]

You're made of stronger stuff than me, I tried three times to get through Reign - The first when it originally aired, and twice in subsequent years with adjusted expectations - and I rage quit every one of them before the midway point of season one. I liked The Tudors, but I felt like they did a better job of meshing the real (and already very dramatic) story with TV plot invention. I never understood why Reign bothered to even pretend to be based on anything remotely historical; they seemingly had no interest in any of it. I always said they shoild have taken their Gossip Girl at the Ren Faire aesthetic, and fully invented a country and set of characters. I think I maybe could have stomached something like that better than the "History Fanfiction" they did instead.

[@mina_en_suiza]

I always loved it, when you speak about films and TV. No exception, here. Great job!

[@cosmicriptid]

Letting Mary die might have actually been the kinder thing to do. She was probably suffering and slightly mad at that point, and keeping her imprisoned for another twenty years would be another form of cruelty.

[@brynniefresh9746]

i have never seen this show but i did watch the first season of the serpent queen which overlaps with this story and i’m curious to know if you’d watch it and review the fashion coz i think it’s really good at least in the fashion department and it’s entertaining but idk it’s it’s 100% accurate (i think maybe like marie antoinette where it’s pretty accurate but they also took some creative liberties or just convey certain things poorly maybe?)

[@alejandraceledon402]

The way I was OBSSESED with reign lol then I digged deeper into the actual history facts and I just decided to separate it, I like rewatching the last season bc it's a bit better costume wise, however, the white dress with red roses crown on season 1 is one of my favorite dresses ever, Adelaide Kane is just breathtaking all around

[@mishellpatino2718]

I just watched the show for the Mary+Francis ship, when Francis died the entire show died for me, I didn't do it on purpose, I just didn't care about anything else on the show...

[@Shadeadder]

You know how people say that Dakota Johnson has too modern of face to play a historical character? That's how I feel about Kenna's actress.

[@allicherryblossom]

I would looove a video on the Tudors and their costumes, even just Henry and his wives outfits. That show was my introduction to the Tudor period and costume design. 🥰

[@daydreamer8941]

Could you talk about the fashion in Outlander especially season two?