Religion, culture, family, and consciousness

Vimoh Live is a bi-weekly call-in show where I talk with callers about religion, culture, and atheism.
Support the channel by clicking the JOIN button and becoming a member.
Or become a patron at / vimoh
Or make a one-time donation at www.vimoh.in
Want to create live streams like this? Check out StreamYard: streamyard.com/pal/d/61809340...

[@shiroyasha_007]

Biggest Irony of Paranormal Investigators is the use of Physical Instruments to detect so called Metaphysical phenomenon

[@Shepherd_in_quest]

😂even religion needs science/scientific org esp nasa to justify itself,,

[@kamoso5023]

Hindu atheist guy should meditate on this quote by Stephen R. Covey: 'The biggest communication problem is that we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply' before engaging in conversation with somebody.

[@jacob.pallath91]

Oh man. Half the people on convo in this video seem to be similar to stoners talking about existential crises.

[@puneetsaklani7516]

A legendary urdu poet Firaq Gorakhpuri said in a discussion with his peers -" we should not say that this word was taken from that this language that langauge. Simply say -They were our brothers , they took it " Culture (and the biggest part of cultre is langauge) is meant to be shared and accepted , that's how it grows .

[@soumyaneelmanna3097]

Accha bhai, because it was an Urdu poet, he is 'legendary' yet people like you would call Sanskrit and Hindi poets cringy, oppressive and outdated

[@puneetsaklani7516]

@@soumyaneelmanna3097 I am a Hindi literature student. You wanna hear some jagganath das ratnakar , or ramdhari Singh Dinkar , Dhumil sunoge , ya aaj ke geet chaturvedi ya Agyey ki asadhya Veena ya nirala ki raam ki shakti Puja ? Muktibodh(my personal favourite) to shayad tumhe samajh bhi na aaye .

[@puneetsaklani7516]

@@soumyaneelmanna3097 aur rahi dusri baat , Urdu puri tarah se shuddh bhartiya bhasha hai . Ise Pakistan main bhi bola jata hai lekin iska janm hi Bharat main hua hai . Ab khush ?

[@puneetsaklani7516]

@@soumyaneelmanna3097 Firaq Gorakhpuri sahab ka asli naam " Raghupati Sahay " hai. Wo angrezi ke professor bhi the.

[@godlessparticle]

Deeps is too deeps man. It's always fun watching him try so hard.

[@amarnathswami1135]

He is deep in religion sewage

[@infinity70455]

4:36 start

[@chethanburre6016]

Thank you for saying kannadA 😇

[@Bheem7378]

Deeps started off with some sense but he started getting in to thought disorder mode in the middle.

[@vancedadder]

You just described the exact way they were indoctrinated

[@SriHarshaChilakapati]

I'd have pushed Deeps to get a bit into linguistics. The concept of 'self' makes sense if people study how 'context' is delivered in languages, the whole passive and active speech and pronouns give context to a pointer that is pointing towards the speaker. It's difficult, and seems to me that Deeps is just starting out in philosophy and got pretty confused with the mumbo jumbo. Kudos to you Vimoh, for showing good amount of patience.

[@deepankulandaisami9544]

I apologise for presenting a personal subjective worldview. Now I discover that what I conveyed is an unfalsifiable claim because it is extremely subjective. My bad ! I too appreciate Vimoh's patience in listening to these!

[@SriHarshaChilakapati]

@@deepankulandaisami9544 No need to apologize bud, we've all been there and done this word salad stuff in the past. What makes us different is we're ready to rethink and come to a clarity. Since you're open to being wrong and have a way to correct yourself, you're better, way better than a lot of people. Good luck!

[@jayeshmange2952]

Deeps seems like a person that can be a really good friend 😊

[@Shepherd_in_quest]

Lot of callers need to read books ,, rather than satisfying thier biases on youtube videos,, first read than solve doubts through dialogue,, still it is process of intellectual growth ❤

[@trupalcanada]

Did I experience the conversation about having or being the experience or am I the experience of the conversation. Sounds like a good plot for inception 2.

[@beactivebehappy9894]

I feel really sad for young people like Deeps who have intellectualised the religious baggage too deeply.

[@deepankulandaisami9544]

I am really sorry for presenting a subjective worldview. I find that this is an unfalsifiable claim as it is subjective. So my bad ! But still, I rest my case that one can definitely find this to be right from a subjective point of view.

[@MohitKumar-nx1zt]

Same here😞

[@prathiksaravanans2386]

How to talk with you in your live streams?

[@dragoons292010]

Regarding NeoCharvak's Constitutional definition of Hinduism, article 25 2b is specifically for the purpose of administering Hindu institutions and application of Hindu Code bill. Hindu code is also applicable to Buddhists and Sikhs. It apso allows provisions and exceptions for sikhs. Yet despite that, Buddhists and Sikhs do not like that.

[@ex.hindu.now.atheist]

@clutternutjack3995 Well yeah that's because no one wants [...] name of their gods.”. ============== Hey!!! How come KZbin lets you use words in your comment, that it does not let me use in my comments ?!?!

[@godlessparticle]

Being a woman atheist is way more difficult in India. Me and my wife are both atheists, but it took a while to get my family to accept her atheism. But I still feel theist atheist relationships require a lot of work. The real question would be, is it worth it?

[@GroundOfAllThings]

Strange though, in our families and surroundings atheists r seen as more reformed Hindu among Hindus. R u from urban India.

[@godlessparticle]

@@GroundOfAllThings I have family in both urban and rural India. Atheists are definitely not Hindu, much less reformed Hindus 😂. Your experience seems to be unique to you.

[@GroundOfAllThings]

@@godlessparticle strange, every family seems to have people who do not believe in God yet they are referred to as Hindu by everyone. Is it ok if u can tell which state? Just curious. I am from Karnataka.

[@godlessparticle]

@@GroundOfAllThings I'm from Karnataka too. Most families don't have atheists. If they do, I don't think atheists themselves would identify as Hindus.

[@godlessparticle]

@@clutternutjack3995 agreed

[@dragoons292010]

I also wanted to ask where is this word adhikara bheda found in any scriptural text? Or lets go ahead. What's the source of the all the claims that he is making?

[@dragoons292010]

​ @NeoCarvakChannel is it srimat Bhagawatam, or Bhagawatam? I suspect they are the same. Can you specify me the verse that speaks of this adhikaara bheda? I would like a strong direct scriptural reference. Not just an internet article that describes the concept. I searched the term, and I didn't get any direct scriptural mention to the word directly at the internet. And also just wanted to ask, did you actually read all the vedic scriptures, upanishads,etc? Or simply articles which speaks about the flexibility of hinduism.

[@electrondynamics9721]

if there is no authority of hinduism or hindu then who is setting the definitions ...... way of life , schools of philosophy,,,,etc

[@GroundOfAllThings]

No one, it is just collection of works by random people

[@spuriusscapula4829]

Urban upper caste "intellectuals" and all these "gurus"

[@electrondynamics9721]

does any book in the hinduism says that atheist are are bad or will go to hell or whatsoever ????? I genuinely have no idea of any book but i heard some of the hindu apologists saying that this or that will happen to atheist most prominently the isckon one and some of the babas

[@ex.hindu.now.atheist]

@electrondynamics9721 “does any book in the hinduism says that atheist [...] the isckon one and some of the babas” ================== *Bhagavad Gita, especially Chap 7 and Chap 9* Krishna says that persons who do not surrender to him are unintelligent, lazy, demonic (i.e. wicked), and that such persons form the lowest category of human beings. He says that such persons will never get the fruits of their efforts. By definition, atheists are in the category of people who do not surrender to Krishna.

[@democracy123]

Valmiki Ramayan, talks about the followers of buddha, the nastik vishesh should be punished as a thief. A true Brahmin should not Converse with them.

[@VishnuRatnakar]

Is Neo Charvak the alter ego of Deeps?

[@yenaremadun7184]

The easiest way to grow a KZbin channel in India is by praising Hinduism and associating the scientific discoveries to accident texts😄 Although it's not the right way.

[@lorclump]

so true.

[@truthseekerhuman]

south africa reservation in cricket for BLACK PEOPLE

[@chethanburre6016]

As s Kannnadiga, I want to know why he has more concern about Hindhi compared to Kannada.

[@Bheem7378]

The simple answer is 'Bhakti'. It makes them lose sense, takes away their freedom of thought and kills thinking process and enslaves.

[@necessary-ambition]

ee hindi avrd ide aithu bari

[@chethanburre6016]

Maharashtra dhavanu, so mostly ondhu parent Maharashtra ondhu parent Karnataka irbeku. Adhikke Hindhi huchchu haththirbeku avanige. Karnataka dhalli Hindhi kalibaardhu antha yelli idhe?

[@Mehak-pb1jd]

I just finished reading a book name life of aghoris even though i am of a rational mindset but sometimes a question arise in my mind that if there is no god or nothing than why some people leave their life and go on himalayas and meditate and even live in samshans and all..why are they living their life like this if they are gaining nothing

[@vimohlive]

what they are gaining is coming from their own imagination

[@electrondynamics9721]

Depression

[@deepankulandaisami9544]

@@vimohlive I can agree that all religious enquiry is extremely subjective i.e. comes under unfalsifiable claim. But calling it "imagination" or "belief" delegitimises the whole process. I want to know why you refuse to call them subjective truth? There are people who blindly accept things based on authority even in the scientific world. The same happens in religious enquiry where people blindly accept things based on authority. The appeal to authority fallacy happens everywhere. But due to the mistakes of some people, is it right to call the whole religious enquiry itself as imagination or belief? Please clarify.

[@priyap9358]

@vimohlive eyes or senses cannot see many physical things. Meditation is not imagination. Meditation is to look within the rich inner brain workings. Maybe Aghoris try and see the universe within. There are things about universe we are still learning.

[@priyap9358]

Fun fact initially western philosophy denied intuition as imagination, now medical science is proving its an additional brain power we evolved to be better predators

[@electrondynamics9721]

again there should be concrete definition of hinduism and hindu before debates or discussion

[@ex.hindu.now.atheist]

@electrondynamics9721 “again there should be [...] before debates or discussion” ================== *I completely agree.* I have realised that apologists of the Hindu RELIGION give multiple meanings to the term ‘Hindu’ intentionally. They do this because this enables them to use whichever meaning is expedient for them to beat around the bush in an attempt to defend their mumbo-jumbo beliefs.

[@beactivebehappy9894]

@@sricr when there is criticism, it hurt religious sentiments… but while propagating it it becomes a way of life…

[@electrondynamics9721]

​@@sricrjo narrative set karna ho woh definition use Karo benstokes fir bolo we are no rigid ....like abrahmic relijhand ......... bcoz rather bolo ki wo koi identity hi nahi hain.......

[@ranujit19]

Deeps has got too deep into dont know what.

[@kevivsinha5128]

The guy 'deeps' is just finding it hard to make meaning of things while at the same time he is excited to be alive.

[@Rationalistbe]

Please debunk book of wisdom by harry b Joseph

[@GroundOfAllThings]

Advaita does not make any positive claims. It is negation of concepts that superimpose/interpret ur experience. Negation that leads to see things as they are. Is matter there are not? What would Advaita say... you experience only awareness, lets stick with what you see, why do you want to have beliefs

[@thestriker269]

If there is no coherent thaught process.that's a huge logical fallacy in itself. If you can't make something simple and understandable howsoever difficult you may seem to make it(6th sense should go up).

[@user-cl9bd1tz3b]

HOW TO CALL YOU

[@seandenny6430]

Join when he is live and use thr link he puts in the chat.

[@electrondynamics9721]

if you are saying that you became atheist due to charvaka philosphy that's why you can call yourself hindu atheist ....okhhhh but that seems very weird/absurd cause suppose someone became atheist due to sam harris philosophy they'll never call themselves as sam atheist or whatsoever..... again all this is valid if you consider it as philosophy ......... the thing is that there was no such philosophy as charvaka he was a sage who had idea of atheism or niriswerwad ........ but yeahh.... the scholar named it so may be because that suits there narrative...... correct me if im wrong not grammatically or spells im using the worst keyboard so ignore that😂 edit also one thing i have never seen someone considering "philosophy" or even "way of living life" as identity ..... rather people with different ideology says it as their identity like communist , socialist leftist rightist ......

[@Bheem7378]

Why does anyone call an imaginary character like charvaka a Hindu? Hindu is a person who subscribes to the brahmanical beliefs like god, karma, rebirth and also observes the caste system. Caste is the most important thing to be a Hindu. Now, did this imaginary character called charvaka practiced brahmanism and preached the caste system? If not, then no one should call that imaginary character a Hindu.

[@sami_is_freeYt]

@@Bheem7378 u can say a large part of the hindu beliefs is brahminism and believing in caste, but theres also people who call themselves hindu but dont believe in caste, rather then just belief in rebirth or karma. Calling the whole of hindu belief is tied to castism that is cultural appropriation.

[@Bheem7378]

Deeps is back with his confusion. He is confusing the laws of physics as order in the universe. Deeps the way you can connect to the universe is through laws of physics. That's all . Keep trying one day you will get to understand rationality and atheism. Good luck mate.

[@deepankulandaisami9544]

Sure! By order, I refer to life: These self-replicating chemical reactions, which somehow mysteriously arise from a universe running based on the laws of physics. Hence, I hold the laws of physics as inadequate to explain life. I suppose that the grand order of this vast cosmos has something more than the current laws of physics. Like the second law of thermodynamics: "The total entropy of a closed system always increases", which explains the arrow of time. I want a similar explanation for the existence of life. Right now I am not satisfied with random chemical reactions giving rise to life.

[@Bheem7378]

@@deepankulandaisami9544 Dear Deeps there are several things we don't know yet about the universe. But whatever we know through science can explain life to a certain extent and we have been successfully applying that knowledge of science to change our lives on a daily basis. Let's not put the god or supernatural power in the gap or in that don't know space to justify meaningless religion or nonsense of religious explanation. I can see that you are a very young person. Just set aside the nonsense of knowing dvaita, advaita, who am I, kind of things and become a rationalist. The most important problem of India is the caste system. Hinduism has given the most evil thing to India called the caste system and nothing else. Please don't try to find something in Hinduism which is not there. Even the theories of advaita, consciousness, shoonya etc were stolen from Buddhism. Try to educate yourself and others about the caste system and work towards its eradication. You will do a huge favour to mankind by doing so. Don't scratch yourself too much about the "who am I" question. You are just a part of the process of this universe.

[@thephilosophicalnerd]

Maya is both real and unreal and it is neither real nor unreal

[@vimohlive]

This is both a response and not a response.

[@thephilosophicalnerd]

@vimohlive hahaha.. your statement would make perfect sense under Vedantin logic but in Aristotelian logic it would be a fallacy.... 😄

[@thephilosophicalnerd]

Well... jokes apart, the point I was trying to make was that Maya is wrongly equated with illusion.

[@Shepherd_in_quest]

Advaita vedanta wants to desperately win battle of philosophies but can’t even win the battle with language,😂because i am the god ,and can experience god , u are also god but u are also human,,, 😂😂😂

[@spuriusscapula4829]

The word "Hindu", whatever its definition, is just another attempt to stick to a tribal identity. Vedas, mimansa, astika, nastika, advaita, kya hi farak padta hai... hundreds of cultures with all their hundreds of ancient ideas and scriptures... what is even to be gained reading and understanding them unless you are an anthropologist or theologist interested in recording and understanding the evolution of a particular culture? Would an Indian "hindu atheist" or "charvaka" care about ancient Norse philosophy or Sumerian philosophy or Japanese philosophy or Celtic philosophy the same way they are entranced by the same old "Hindu" philosophy espoused by these modern urban upper caste fellows?

[@navroopkumar1752]

Similarly and extrapolating your utilitarian perspective if study and reciprocation of knowledge is about "farak" and "fayda" then what is the purpose of science and technology the crude benefit of which has eluded most of human civilization and which has in effect contributed to it's detriment through climate change? Just say that your version of tribalism is a progressive slave morality laden casuistry which seeks to upend or proposition itself against heterodoxical brahmin or upper caste epsitemology. Dunderheads like you can at best present alternatives or just perpetuate the dichotomisation which has been there since eons and then pat yourself on your back within the coterie of your equally lumpen circlejerk of edgelords. Sirf social media pe bakwas karne Tak tumlogo ka renegade Banna hai in real life your ilk has nothing original or inspiring

[@Shepherd_in_quest]

Charvaka caller is kid(intellectually),, no understanding of art 25 ,, art 25 2a is very specific use,, hinduism and sikhism and jain are not at all hindu,,, no understanding of charvaka as well, hindus appropriate anything

[@thestriker269]

Are deeps bhai...kahan yh sab "self" /prashant baba/advaita ke chakkar main pde ho...mast Ganja maro fir dekho kaise 'self' dissociate hkar alag alag experience hte hain...(seriously mat le lena majak hai😂)

[@spuriusscapula4829]

bad trips...

[@korashortss]

Hinduism = Braminism 👍👍👍