Q&A with Dr. Jackson Crawford and Dr. Luke Gorton

Impromptu livestream with scholarly KZbinrs Jackson Crawford and Luke Gorton!

[@BBC-dq3ki]

“Some people make a lot of money from it” You are correct, the hot tub streamers do make bank. If there’s a next time, I suggest you follow the format.

[@BethanyMarenna]

This is gold! Thank you so much for letting us in on the conversation. The dynamic between your three realms of knowledge is perfect.

[@redmesas3]

Three of my favorite channels all together!

[@meesalikeu]

this is so awesome to see - three of my fav utoobers 🎉

[@genghisgalahad8465]

Awesome surprise physically present appearance by Dr Jackson Crawford. Was awaiting an impromptu video conference call! And Dr Luke Gorton!

[@ketoonkratom]

Love One Another God Bless Everyone

[@SunnyAquamarine2]

Bummed I missed this but gonna enjoy watching the replay. Can't wait to simulate my brain with two of my favorite YT channels together. And add etymology and linguistics to the religious and ancient motif and I suddenly think an hour isn't enough... never have I ever missed moving back to Iowa from Denver like I do right now. If I were there I would have attended as many conferences or at least perused the local haunts in an attempt to join in a dialogue of these things. Thanks for doing this, gentlemen!

[@rdklkje13]

Haven’t watched this yet but gotta like just for the idea! Have been hoping for a collab between Dr Crawford and you and/or @Let’s Talk Religion, maybe @Angela’s Symposium too ❤️

[@Dunkle0steus]

Three channels I subscribe to all at once!

[@evan-moore22]

I'm interested that Jackson still had the experience of being lied to about job prospects when he began his PhD. Since I started my doctorate in English lit (medieval: not a lot of jobs), the entire hiring committee and department, the chair, and my diss committee have all been very straightforward with me that there will not be a job at the end of this path. I decided that was okay; I love the study and the teaching enough for the schooling in its own right. But I am not expecting even a full-time teaching position when I graduate in a couple years. (Edit for clarity)

[@evan-moore22]

@A C I have a teaching assistantship, so the tuition is free and I get a stipend that covers my basic costs. I'm poor but happy. I have no idea how anyone pays for graduate study without getting paid by the university to be there. Best advice I ever got when applying was to only go if they pay me.

[@faithlesshound5621]

@@evan-moore22 Dr Johnson said something like, "None but a blockhead ever wrote but for money," which amounts to much the same thing.

[@fugithegreat]

Yes I love it when the people I follow do crossovers!

[@VernAfterReading]

Thanks! In the stream you had a few themes of non-religion being like religion or called religion (tech), what about the other direction, religions that people are skeptical of, but that want to be recognized as religion? I'm thinking about cases like Scientology that fought in court to be recognized. Are there historical or scholarly schools of thought (high bar vs low bar) as to what counts as a religion?

[@SunnyAquamarine2]

As I'm not affiliated with any of these three brilliant doctors, my recommendation would be to trust your instincts on Google or your preferred search engine.

[@faithlesshound5621]

In the case of Scientology, their desire to be recognised as a religion was not so much historical or religious as legal and financial, especially in the American context. In the USA a religious organisation has specific protections and immunities by law, such as freedom from taxation. L Ron Hubbard started out in California marketing Dianetics as a therapy, but seems soon to have discovered that there was more profit to be had in the US from selling Scientology as a religion. David Miscavige's kidnapping of Hubbard and takeover of the "Org" has led to its moving away from venerating Hubbard as the Maitreya Buddha to becoming a quasi-Christian sect which puts up frilly crucifixes. I see Scientology as a knock-off of the Roman Catholic Church, with Neuro-Linguistic Programmers as its Protestant progeny.

[@justinvidanes5186]

Thanks for this understanding on scholarship. I'm going to study religion. Someone in jail told me I need to read the Quran with love and I hope to have the love of academic understanding in reading the Qu'ran. Thank you.

[@maxavery5905]

damn! i had to sleep when this happened! great collab, thank you!

[@ostsan8598]

This is a pretty good conversation. I'm guessing this was recommended because I watch Dr. Crawford's channel. The stream cuts off suddenly at 1:03:58 . Is the end of the stream recoverable and able to be posted as a separate video?

[@ready1fire1aim1]

In the King James Version, Hebrews 4:8 says, “For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day” (emphasis added). In the New International Version, the same verse says, “For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day” (emphasis added). Most other English translations of this verse also refer to Joshua and not Jesus. Hebrews 4:8 is obviously referring to the Old Testament character of Joshua, the son of Nun. The previous verses had been speaking of Moses and the wilderness wanderings and the Israelites’ entering of the Promised Land (Hebrews 3:16-19). Despite the passage’s being about Joshua, the KJV uses the name Jesus. But Hebrews 4:8 is not the only New Testament passage in which Joshua is called “Jesus” in the KJV. In Acts 7:45, Stephen speaks of his “ancestors under Joshua” bringing the tabernacle into the Promised Land (NIV, ESV, NKJV, NASB, et al., emphasis added). According to the wording of the KJV, however, the tabernacle was “brought in with Jesus” (emphasis added). So, what explains the name switch? Why does the KJV say “Jesus” in the New Testament instead of “Joshua,” when it’s clearly the Old Testament leader Joshua in view? The answer is that Jesus and Joshua are really the same name, although in different languages. The Greek form (in English) is Jesus. The Hebrew form (in English) is Joshua. Both forms of the name mean “YAHWEH Is Salvation.” In the Old Testament Hebrew, Joshua’s name is יְהוֹשׁוּעַ or, transliterated into English, Yehoshua, a form of Yeshua. This is where we get the English name Joshua. But, when the Hebrew name is translated into Koine Greek, the original language of the New Testament, it becomes Ἰησοῦς, which transliterates into Iēsous. And this is where we get the English name Jesus. Thus, Yeshua and, correspondingly, Joshua and Jesus all mean “YAHWEH Saves” or “YAHWEH Is Salvation.” What is the difference between Hoshea and Joshua? The name Hoshea means “salvation,” the name Joshua means “YAHWEH is salvation.” In Jewish tradition it is believed that Moses is changing Joshua's name with an implied meaning of “May God save you from the conspiracy of the scouts.” Jesus and Yahweh's Divine Identity In other words, Mark's interpretation of these Old Testament texts suggests that Mark includes Jesus into the divine identity of Yahweh. Jesus is the Son, but he is Yahweh in the flesh, while simultaneously remaining God's Son (compare Mark 1:2-3 with 1:11 and 2:7-12).

[@darlebalfoort8705]

I love the poetry of of the Kobe. Translation by poets- of course, it stands out.

[@darlebalfoort8705]

I missed the autocorrect

[@darlebalfoort8705]

Good to see you all together😀

[@rm8874]

One debated topic Ive seen a bit around the net is whether or not psychopathy and sociopathy were common among the Viking era Norse culture. Shame I missed this Q&A. Would have loved to have heard some opinions.

[@speedwagon1824]

I don't think those can be common

[@TheKraken5360]

I would have watched this. But, it was too difficult to hear. The sound quality wasn't great.

[@sclair2854]

Whoa! Crawford on religion for breakfast!

[@irkendragon]

Did something go wrong with the stream? The video ends abruptly in the middle of Dr. Crawford speaking.

[@mkh8076]

The phoneme is the mental representation of the sound. It is an allophone that actually comes out of your mouth. Enjoyed the convo, thanks!

[@garyfrancis6193]

The study of religion is important as that is the default operating system of the human mind.

[@iceblinkmender]

Andrew gave one of the best answers I've heard to that reoccurring question of "well is Communism a religion??"

[@reeyees50]

Quality and volume were too low. Content was top good

[@richarddelotto2375]

AAR.... wow. Went to the 1974 one in DC and discovered there were no (0.00) jobs. Sort of changed my approach to grad school.

[@ericp3645]

Cuts out right at the word "forbidden". That was ominous.

[@SunnyAquamarine2]

Maybe it was done so we'd look up the Norse words galdrar and seither

[@ridleyroid9060]

Wow, that was super unexpected, the viking cowboy himself!

[@Lokis-mom]

I think I would enjoy this Q&A more if I could hear Prof Crawford. Not good audio, sorry.

[@SM-cs2my]

i'm liking this before even watching, *this* is an impressive crossover!

[@SobekLOTFC]

I enjoyed the stream- keep up the great work, Dr Henry 👍

[@atzmut3884]

Good stuff!

[@marykayryan7891]

My absolute favorite Hollywood moment with Loki is when Loki is haranguing the hulk about how big and powerful he (Loki) is and the Hulk picks him up, slams him silly into the floor and says, Humph, Puni god." So damn funny!

[@jeremiahaldan1639]

Hey, I live in Denver! Great Q&A!

[@Mr.Patrick_Hung]

The fiddling at the start should have been cut.

[@ReikiTora]

I'm not sure how I feel about this collaborative effort, cause I have played in an arcade with two of you.

[@briancreech9990]

Modern Norse pagan here. Dr Crawford is an excellent resource on the topic because of his extensive time reading and translating the original texts.

[@joyhunter2362]

I once read that Loki liked to trick people

[@josephbrowne6670]

Dr Stephen L. Cooke of Virginia Theological Seminary was present and presented at this conference. He was one of my Hebrew Scripture professors. He recently published “Introducing Israel’s Prophetic Writings “. Thanks for putting this panel together.

[@klasnm_5364]

Would've loved to watch this video in it's entirety but I have to turn the volume to max to hear what you say so when the commercials come my eardrums get thoroughly f***ed. It would be good if you could address this in any future collaborations because I enjoy your content very much.

[@LaggingGames]

good talk rip stream :(

[@williamowens3905]

What caused us to stop thinking for ourselves?

[@2tehnik]

what happened to make the stream end so suddenly?

[@SunnyAquamarine2]

I don't know, but the Wikipedia articles on galdrar and seithr are interesting reads

[@hrizonsdebbie]

"We're about to go live!" 🤔😜🤠

[@MrLigonater]

Oh! I thought you were saying KGB.

[@bdwon]

Relatively recent video about KJV? That was years ago, seems like.

[@bendthebow]

All the people

[@SameAsAnyOtherStranger]

Life is useless like Ecclesiastes say

[@bendthebow]

It's quite so I put on CC. Translated Norse myth as Nora Smith

[@SunnyAquamarine2]

My understanding of CC is computer hooked on phonics

[@irishbushido]

This is fantastic.

[@joyhunter2362]

Give me the skinny on Loki Please 😭?🌎?

[@enriquekahn9405]

Dammit I always miss the livestreams. Haven't watched the VOD yet but I'm sure it'll be brilliant.

[@beepboop204]

🙂

[@damenwhelan3236]

@11:39 King olaf who?

[@faithlesshound5621]

King Olaf I, or Olaf Tryggvason.

[@dayhaysuper3639]

Kjv only isn't just a small subset. It's very big. Almost all southern churches are kjv only

[@patrickallen844]

Is the Hebrew people are black

[@patrickallen844]

Is the people are black

[@BluePachyderm105]

As a layperson, "cult" is used these days to refer to a newish religion that involves things like: Controlling the lives of the members, requiring members to cut off contact with their families if their families aren't that religion, requiring turning over a significant or total amount of their wealth, and so on. I'd expect PhDs to know this, so maybe I didn't understand the statements on "cults".

[@IntelVoid]

They know. I think Andrew did mention those criteria. The point they were making though is that people aren't always that careful about the definition when they call something a 'cult' - it can rhetorically mean like a religion for crazy people, and only imply the specific criteria without actually riding on them. The other thing was that in the past, 'cult' didn't have that focussed definition. It was almost used the way we use the word 'religion' today. But when scholars use the word with that old definition and readers assume the new, more specific one, it can cause confusion.

[@williamowens3905]

I thought about it. And in reality i worship the earth. Why do we worship the beyond? We are living here on the ground, without wings. We need to get used to it.

[@williamowens3905]

What made us become such silly followers?

[@eminentbishop1325]

Cognitive development. We weren't born with minds like we have now. It took millenia of ideological interchange to get to where we are now and i suspect we couldn't have got here without firs taking the steps we did