Removing Half of Smash Ultimate's Roster: Which Fighters Should Stay? | Siiroth

I thought it would be a fun challenge to try and cut the roster of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate directly in half, leaving us with just 40 characters. If we were to do something like that, who should stay and who should be removed? That's what I try to answer in this video.
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[@luigislayer8541]

Yeah, but if you get rid of Luigi, the game is just, "Super Smash"

[@PennyFizz]

getting rid of Luigi in smash is like getting rid of Steve Rogers in the MCU wait a minute

[@WittyMick03]

@Yahoo thanks for explaining the joke 😐

[@orio_edible]

Big brain

[@frogger551]

@@WittyMick03 yeah lol that was super unnecessary

[@memecards11]

First mario game if luigi would be just mario

[@Bonk27387]

“Today I’ll be removing half the roster” Fire emblem characters: *intense sweating*

[@grandmasterlukeskywalker6344]

“We’re removing half the roster to add more fire emblem characters” Fire emblem characters: sweating stops

[@NellielsHusband]

@@grandmasterlukeskywalker6344 FUUUUUCK YOUUU

[@grandmasterlukeskywalker6344]

Swan how do we stop them

[@grandmasterlukeskywalker6344]

Swan what if we keep the fire emblem characters out by building a wall of brawl meta knights

[@grandmasterlukeskywalker6344]

Pit: not all fire emblem characters are bad Zelda: pit I just got raped by a fir- Pit: TAKE ALL THIER GOD DAMN HORSES!!!!!!

[@ishansharma5304]

*Removes Chrom cause he is similar to Roy and Ike* *Proceeds to remove Roy and Ike also* Me : *Visible Confusion*

[@Sawcybui]

Hahah

[@samdlp6510]

Roy is a part of the original fire emblem reps so you just cant remove him. Its like removing mario from mario bros.

[@Sawcybui]

@@samdlp6510 Nah, that would be like removing luigi

[@samdlp6510]

@@Sawcybui more like removing tree from mario golf

[@lucasthegreat2584]

lol so true

[@cammoore___]

Yoshi is his own franchise in Smash, he doesn't use the Mushroom symbol, he has an egg symbol.

[@je1733]

Still its basically the same series

[@kehrtum1]

@@je1733 TRUE

[@gammaclan8521]

Bro, does it matter

[@cammoore___]

@@gammaclan8521 Yes. Yes it does.

[@alexplaysgames5724]

@@cammoore___ tbh its another series

[@lokimanezero]

Fans: but Nintendo!!! What happened to the other characters? Nintendo: *Gone. Reduced to atoms.*

[@shuvaelapel1832]

Thanos snapped. This is what happened

[@cadenerfvlogs2406]

The other characters died of Coronavirus

[@MR.Salt7]

Thanos for smash

[@vincentbowyer3046]

NO getting deafeated by galeem and darkhon

[@luigi369]

We had them two days ago

[@DanDaFreakinMan]

Imagine a Super Smash Bros. game where you don't get to hear "FALCON PUNCH!"

[@Serpentshand.forever]

THATS SMASH 64 MU GUY

[@Serpentshand.forever]

MY

[@DanDaFreakinMan]

@@Serpentshand.forever the hell you talking about? Captain Falcon has appeared in all Smash Bros. games, including the first one (64).

[@Serpentshand.forever]

Well it's a NIGHTMARE just to get him for newer players

[@theradiantdehd3997]

@@Serpentshand.forever Captain Falcon was in SSB 64. What are you talking about?

[@roaringthunder115]

“Ike cut, Byleth stays” My inner love of brawl:”It’s treason, then.”

[@haygax5767]

He really just cut my main out in the blink of an eye

[@ignaciojimenezvargas6826]

I agree I actually main Ike so I have the same thinking as you

[@malmasterson3890]

I mean, he isn't wrong tho... 3 houses was very successful, and Byleth is much more unique than Ike. I myself main Roy/Chrom and honestly I understand the exclusion of both. If it had to be done I'd say it's still the best way to do things.

[@ignaciojimenezvargas6826]

@@malmasterson3890 how can you main a chromosome if that is inside your body

[@malmasterson3890]

@@ignaciojimenezvargas6826 I don't decide how my phone autocorrects a name lol. Edit: On that note, Osmosis Jones for smash?

[@LodestarLogado]

Me: “Oh nice, I’m curious to see who stays and goes. These videos are always fun” Me after literally every single one of my mains gets cut: “o-...oh. I mean fair, but WHO WOULD I PLAY?!”

[@advorp]

Who do you main I main Ike, King K Rool, R.O.B, Terry

[@TDG386]

I still have G&W

[@malmasterson3890]

Same, buthe definitely handled the cuts well.

[@petesoys6348]

I still have all five of my mains. Sonic, Ness, Luigi, Pac-Man, and Pokémon Trainer all stay, so it's honestly a win for me. Too bad they kept Dedede. He's very annoying and me and my friends are much happier with smashdown. So they better keep that in Smash 6.

[@LodestarLogado]

A year later and I just saw the replies but in order of video appearance (roughly) Dark Samus, Falco, Wolf, Roy, Lucario, Incineroar, Ike, Corrin, Little Mac, Meta Knight, Pyra/Mythra lol Plus you should include Ganon cause he shoulda gone instead of Cap. But it is what it is, he’s probably my only main left lol

[@KirboYT]

"The Legend of Zelda series" *shows Joker gameplay* ah yes, my favorite zelda game, persona 5

[@babyyoda3215]

Where our hero ryuji saves princess ren

[@biandanxious3438]

Link........LINK. It’s time to go to sleep!

[@todorokipicturebutitsusedb6756]

Baby Yoda no it’s sojiro

[@just_cc4906]

Yes they both only grunt most of the time

[@Xervolmao]

@@just_cc4906 but joker actually says things. Link 𝙟𝙪𝙨𝙩 grunts

[@Brockyroad]

New title idea for this video: How to make the entire comment section one giant argument

[@noiceqwergppl6571]

Jackson Brockman yes I’m going to murder siiroth

[@angellexgamer5416]

I believe your wron-....shit

[@jdjdfg431]

The thumbnail showed him removing ZSS but not Dark Pit which is just offensive

[@angellexgamer5416]

Jdj Dfg Be honest it was necessary

[@kurtkauffman6254]

Getting rid of falcon is foolish because more so than any fighter, he represents Smash as a franchise. Since the inception, he has fueled the high-octane action and magical excitement of the games. He’s not even an f-zero character at this point. He’s defined by his Smash likeness, but more importantly, Smash is defined by him. Memes aside, his old-fashioned bravado and uncompromising sense of honor and justice are definitive aspects of Smash history and provide important depth to the culture and community the franchise has garnered.

[@joshstuder265]

Yeah I main as him also 😂

[@HudsTakesLs]

Roy was the only character original to Smash, so I’d keep him as he is like Falcon in the sense of extreme hype. He might be under the fire emblem tag, but he is synonymous with Smash at this point.

[@silverpotato4272]

@@HudsTakesLs Roy was added as a marth clone (and still kinda is one), and Marth is staying. When you consider what other characters you'd have to cut, it's not really worth it

[@offbrandinternet8933]

He said c falcon was similar ganon I unsubed cause he's dumb

[@SparklyTwinkleT0es]

If any character is considered a smash character it’s roy because he debuted in smash

[@somedudewatchingyoutube9163]

Siirith: bye isabelle Social platforms: you have forfeated your life priviliges

[@meister.979]

Removing K rool and Banjo is like accidentally deleting the essay you did last-minute

[@StevenVillman]

Yeah, I'm *_really_* upset that 'Siiroth' cut King K. Rool!!! 😡😡😡😡😡

[@da_kracken8879]

@@StevenVillman lmao shut up

[@lucario5717]

Lmao

[@jackownsyou44]

Da_Kracken you seem like a douche

[@da_kracken8879]

@@jackownsyou44 He was alot more dramatic and those words were alot more aggressive before he edited them

[@Uvirith]

"Captain Falcon has to go." Disliked, unsubscribed, reported, and I'm going to be showing up at your house to help you see the error of your ways.

[@bagel4301]

HAHAHAHAAAA thats really funny, really true though! I don't even main Captain Falcon and it would be so wrong if he wasnt in the roster and never hear him say "FALCON PUNCH" ever again. (I main Young Link, so I'm glad he said he would keep him in!)

[@ginawait9240]

Justice Del Giudice uhh young link was cut

[@bagel4301]

@@ginawait9240 really? I have to rewatch it 😟.

[@bagel4301]

@@ginawait9240 I cant tell, it sounds like he got rid of Toon Link and Young Link, but I cant tell if he kept him or not, but I'm pretty sure he cut him 😢

[@epicdoesaspace2505]

Justice Del Giudice In MY opinion I don’t see how you main a character based on just running,turning around,and pressing b multiple times rinse repeat until your opponent is at a high percent then run up and Forward smash.I main Luigi and at least you need a couple of brain cells to play him with his zero to deaths but that’s just me.

[@mysteriousmuffin6017]

Considering that K Rool is one of the most requested characters of all time, along with the likes of Ridley and Waluigi, it would be unthinkable to remove him, especially considering how unique his moveset is.

[@user-bl8cd2xd4g]

Well if you have to remove one of the three DK characters, it's gotta be K Rool

[@jacksonjobe4976]

@@user-bl8cd2xd4g nah diddy is way more removable

[@user-bl8cd2xd4g]

@@jacksonjobe4976 Diddy is def more iconic, he was the main protagonist in DKC2 and he has a racing spinoff

[@Alpha-oe7zn]

But does king k rool have a RaCiNg GaMe!!

[@dassupercat4246]

I think it’d be better to have A villain hero dynamic then just two heros

[@SebastianPargaPaints]

“There was going to be another xenoblade character, but they got due to time constraints.” Pyra: *evil laughter*

[@FrigidRidge]

lol

[@franciscocruzthenext-genga6802]

Cutting Captain Falcon and Jigglypuff is impossible.

[@Henboi-rp9sj]

Paco Cruz yeah, since they’ve been since smash 64 as the first 4 hidden characters

[@big_c3426]

I kinda want ganon nor falcon to be cut (

[@eliyahuoziel1775]

Agreed. They are from the origional 12.

[@brodykeeth6281]

I know

[@sbprakamranonymity4780]

Indeed it is!

[@blueskull7898]

*keeps Game and Watch and Ness because they’re the sole representatives of their retro series, but gets rid of Falcon

[@archagenteverlasting1239]

The Game and Watch and Mother series are more influential than F-Zero

[@k-leb4671]

@@archagenteverlasting1239 Sadly true.

[@jamesmmart1n]

I agree with you when it comes to game and watch but not Ness. Falcon only got cut because he and ganondorf come into the semi clone department. From a players point of view, falcon is a better pick to stay over ganon because hes part of the original 12 and had the similar moveset first. But from Nintendos point of view that's not the case. Ganondorf an iconic villain from the legend of zelda series. Hes been in every Zelda game as the antagonist and has been for over 20 years now. So ganon was a better pick over falcon in the eyes of Nintendo. What does this have to do with Ness? The reason Ness got in was because lucas and him are also in the semi clone department. Ness is a better pick over Lucas, so ness stayed in. Falcon just had to go because of ganondorf. I dont understand how game and watch snuck in over falcon, but that's why Ness is in and Falcons not.

[@jamesmmart1n]

@John Coletti They have similar looking moves but Falcons actual moveset is just down air and side b on sheild until one lands, spamming down air offstage for "hype" disrespect, and spamming falcon punch until it hits and popping off after 50 attemps.

[@cuteminicrewmate2638]

gets rid of banjo

[@mikeydowikey4140]

This concept is actually way easier to execute when you don’t realize you’re cutting half. I made an ideal roster for the next game and when I was counting them there were 41 characters lol, I wasn’t even trying to cut half

[@King-ij4mr]

bro just hates half the game

[@amadeus.7436]

I decided to do a 1st/2nd party only roster idea and ended up with 50 characters, which included 10 newcomers.

[@AverageHandle_]

I think you shouldn’t cut R.O.B because he saved the gaming industry

[@you_just]

“Here’s the whole roster” *proceeds to black out most of the roster so you can only see a tiny portion at once*

[@davidarruda8400]

Yeah why in the hell did he do that?

[@averypatrick5279]

I mostly agree with this, but they will never remove any of the original 12. It is the only fan rule I buy into.

[@Flash_Warn1ng]

Except from jugglypuff she was only added as a Kirby semi clone

[@bonniekawaii8331]

@@Flash_Warn1ng Luigi was also added as a mario semi-clone

[@slenderfoxx3797]

Yeah I can agree with that. It's not really a rule still of course but it would be a such a weird and dumb decision to do.

[@averypatrick5279]

@@Flash_Warn1ng 1. No. Even in 64 she had a completely different moveset from kirby. She was chosen because Kirby'd model would work. 2. It's just tradition at this point.

[@averypatrick5279]

@@slenderfoxx3797 I think it is a tradition for the smash team at this point to have them in.

[@jackscrivens9520]

I didn't know Thanos had over 7000 KZbin accounts.

[@AlejoGaming-hv6lm]

Thanos be like: "You fool, I have over 7000 alternative accounts!"

[@dumpertron1]

JOKES ON YOU THE ROSTER IS AN ODD NUMBER YOU CANT EVENLY SPLIT IT!

[@thecheesepants]

Lmfao

[@evolvedbread1370]

One of them is gonna have a wheelchair

[@aboi9596]

The thought of Capital Falcon getting cut physically hurts me

[@KadenzJade6447]

Capital

[@ianw188]

Captain Falcon...is a joke character.

[@ballisticboo7808]

@@ianw188 ....no?

[@ballisticboo7808]

@@ianw188 ...what?

[@lifereadguy9933]

@@ianw188???????

[@ryanazman19]

you’re completely ignoring the fact that the most iconic move in smash is falcon punch

[@xCrowley33]

To add, Ganondorf isn't even occuring as much. Ganon also has a bland and lame moveset. Sure he now has a thick blade and screams DORIYA, but... Bleh. Ganon would've been the cut of choice.

[@ido5269]

@@xCrowley33 Zelda is the third biggest Nintendo series by a huge margin, it deserves 3 characters, and Ganon is the main villain in most of the games.

[@lordwhoopi9132]

@@ido5269 yeah ganon, not gannondorf.

[@ryanazman19]

but eliminating falcon will remove a fighter who is the sole representative of his franchise.

[@xCrowley33]

@@ido5269 Falcon is much more interesting than Ganon is currently. Sure, if Ganon would get a completely different moveset, start using magic, learns how to float etc, than sure. But I'd rather have Falcon here and Jiggly out, if any of the OG 12 has to go, but that's me getting of topic. Back on topic, yes, Zelda is a big franchise and I agree with your statement. Ganon is iconic. But he is not as relevant as in the older days (basically until Brawl). Keeping in Toon Link, who represent a side branch, would make way more sense. Or replace Sheik with Impa. Should make more sense. 😉

[@amarketablesalmon6294]

Captain falcon’s falcon punch is what brought me to smash last year He’s ICONIC

[@TDG386]

That's the problem, yes, he's part of the og 12, but at this point, he is more of a captain Smash than captain falcon. Heck, nintendo didn't even knew what the heck to put in his moveset because he is 95% in the blue falcon, so they roll with a few samus moves (making him in 64 a semi clone of samus), a few moves from the F Zero manga i think and the previously scrapped moveset of the fighters of Dragon King, the prototype of Smash 64.

[@LouieKazooieTooie]

I will never accept Banjo-Kazooie being removed, they just returned to us

[@yucatancallejero]

Yeah, but still, they don't deserve to be in the game, his series has been dead by 14 years, his third Game was awfull, people don't remember him, and he is super borrying to play with and against

[@LouieKazooieTooie]

@@yucatancallejero all those things and he still got in

[@thenewhiltonsapples8813]

Thank you oh my god

[@yucatancallejero]

@@LouieKazooieTooie sadly

[@louiepikmin3184]

@@yucatancallejero You really don't realize how important they are to Nintendo's history if you think they shouldn't be in. And also, that's a very subjective thing. I love playing as banjo and I enjoy playing against him.

[@trueblade3636]

I waited 20+ years for Banjo in Smash Now he is snapped qq

[@SeanWheeler100]

He really should have picked Cloud to eliminate. Nintendo couldn't get any Final Fantasy content in Smash outside of Cloud and Midgar. They couldn't even get Steve Burton to dub his voice or use archived recordings from Final Fantasy games.

[@sfmaub234]

@@SeanWheeler100 I agree, while Final Fantasy is one of the most important JRPGs, having 6 references a cross everything doesn't seem fair against anyone else...

[@H4rdlex]

@@SeanWheeler100 Regarding his voice actor, hat's not because of SE but because Steve Burton was an union actor and since then he isn't Cloud VA anymore, also they got the summons which are main FF elements in the stage but for some reason they weren't added as spirits.

[@quarz5120]

I don’t believe banjo will be removed from smash

[@SeanWheeler100]

@@H4rdlex So if Burton isn't Cloud's VA anymore, why didn't they get his new VA to dub Cloud? Is Cody Christian union?

[@smothepro1717]

When he said Ness' moveset was fun, I just imagined "PK FIRE, PK FIRE, PK FIRE, PK FIRE, PK FIRE, PK FIRE, PK FIRE, PK THUNDER, AAAAAHH"

[@kingnathan-3504]

SMOThePRO I might just be bias but Lucas is better and less annoying

[@smothepro1717]

Nathan Crane I think that way too but high level Ness players can be amazing to watch. Lucas’ PK Fire doesn’t trap you so it’s less annoying. I was a Lucas main at some point so yeah

[@shawncarter4887]

My brother on Smash Ultimate in a nutshell

[@yucatancallejero]

Why is EarthBound even represented in smash?? That franchise died in the first week

[@shawncarter4887]

@@yucatancallejero Ness was a character since the first/second game iirc, but i dont know.

[@chavithechurro3999]

Siiroth: talks about getting rid of half of the roster Also him: plays the hero reveal trailer in the background

[@colingamer5073]

What does that have to do with anything?

[@colingamer5073]

@Master Dizzy Ok.

[@mooseyluke]

You can't have a smash game without the original 12. That's like smash 101 my dude

[@zacharybozarth1049]

I get it, getting rid of Falcon makes sense than getting rid Ganon. However, I think it's a sin to get rid of one of the original 12.

[@kimyona9746]

Eh. Jigglypuff is fine to cut imo. It's a stupid gen 1 pokemon. Mewtwo woulda been fine to cut too.

[@shyguyissoawesomeguys]

@@kimyona9746 No. Mewtwo is a legendary Pokemon, and it's *sort of* an antagonist. So Mewtwo should stay.

[@RJIS]

But Jigglypuff is an exception. She isn’t up there with Pikachu and Mario, she can go

[@k-leb4671]

@@kimyona9746 If Jigglypuff wasn't so unique and entrenched in Smash Bros history, I would like to see her go too. She never should've been added to Smash Bros in the first place, but alas, at this point I just can't bare cutting her.

[@kimyona9746]

*Laughs in not caring because their gen 1 pokemon*

[@okboomer3095]

Siiroth: removes two characters from the original 12 Me: wait that’s illegal

[@rekt_yer_nan_darding_5788]

Al the melee characters should have been included

[@nicedevil7990]

Rekt_Yer_Nan_Darding _ not clones

[@MorphRed]

@@rekt_yer_nan_darding_5788 pichu...

[@OwlpoAnimations]

MorphRed how dare you

[@RJIS]

Owlpo Animations fuck Pichu

[@someonethatsme2561]

If this was made when Steve was announced, I’m pretty sure he would stay due to the diverse, interesting and crazy move set

[@cookieskillet6124]

Plus he is actually pretty important to gaming

[@glimmerstantroop46321]

Steve is definitely a keeper

[@fertileplanet7756]

Plus the fact that Minecraft is the best-selling game of all time

[@splaturials9156]

Ban his ass or rework

[@sethcontreras1540]

"Mixing zero suit, and samus, zelda, and sheik is unrealistic" Me: all of this is unrealistic, especially most of your choices -,w,-

[@seancon0076]

Cutting captain falcon is just wrong. He has moved beyond f-zero and has almost become a mascot for smash. I dont even main him and seeing him be cut would not be okay.

[@barborshop6456]

Adam Bruck same

[@menkirdennis6686]

Same, he master sauce, one of the hypest characters to watch or play

[@seancon0076]

@@menkirdennis6686 totally. Has friend that played captain falcon, and its always pure hype to watch. Almost all his moves go in such a way that makes it so much fun to watch. It's too sad that he isn't high tier.

[@justice8718]

Falcon is immortalized by Melee. If smash crashes down: he’ll still be around.

[@chappyrockstick6]

Yeah I pretty much forgot he had his own game, I’ve always associated him with Smash Bros.

[@ONLY_RR7]

“Jigglypuff has to go” *Hungrybox would like to know your location*

[@Xx_STRHMN_xX]

Recent events bring a new look to this comment...

[@Roz257]

YES

[@starthing1255]

@@Xx_STRHMN_xX What happened.

[@suta2106]

And pjiggles

[@noiceqwergppl6571]

And me

[@Adam-np4dm]

The best way to keep more characters in a potential smash 6 would have to be turning alot of echoes and similar characters into alt skins for main stay characters

[@SonicTimewarp]

I’d love to see an updated version of this now that we have the full roster

[@realreptillianjesus]

You removed Captain Falcon because he hasn't had a game in almost 20 years yet you keep Ness who hadn't had a game in america in 26 years.

[@arek.k8688]

But Ness only had one game: Earthbound Mother 3 has Lucas and Mother has Ninten

[@Merry_Haddock]

Because he's considered to be too similar to Ganon. Ness is more unique (if you cut Lucas). The logic is good.

[@peterfamilyguy2040]

*14 years Every EarthBound game has a different protagonist so it's unfair to say that

[@mosorireayewale2820]

Earthbound is a lot more influential and well-known than F-zero.

[@airgod231]

Mr game and watch Nervous beeping

[@sapphire5780]

Mostly fine with this but cutting Falcon and Puff would never happen.

[@grandtactician9801]

Honestly I’m in favor of cutting Puff, she’s pretty much only has her “perfect record” going for her at this moment as her popularity has greatly diminished over time and her moveset is hardly anything to write home about. But Falcon is completely worth keeping, even if F-Zero is dead he is still a fan favorite character and pretty much embodies everything Smash is all about.

[@sapphire5780]

@@grandtactician9801 Yeah but I think that realisticly, cutting any of the original 12 would be off the table.

[@grandtactician9801]

SapphireWolfXD Maybe with Sakurai around, but if a new director comes in then there’s a possibility that they would have different priorities. Also Jigglypuff was close to be getting cut from Brawl, so even under Sakurai’s direction she’s never been “always in the clear”. Is it unlikely that Puff would get cut, yeah probably but honestly I would be favor of cutting her either way. I think we can at least agree that if anyone from 64 is ever getting cut then it would easily be Jigglypuff.

[@ashtonrivas7419]

@@sapphire5780 yea because you need to end with the original 12 the game started with so yeah your right and they've never been removed from a smash game

[@sapphire5780]

@@ashtonrivas7419 Smash 6 roster confirmed

[@redtoadplush1142]

Every Fire Emblem character: "I dont feel so good"

[@mosorireayewale2820]

I'm pretty confident most of the commenters here didn't watch the full video past "did my fav character get in???"

[@Recon-601]

True

[@stormpancake2069]

I understand why cutting falcon makes sense when you think about him as an F-Zero rep but at this point he is a smash character more than F-Zero character. And i just cant see nintendo cutting any of the 64 veterans.

[@DaBloodyResh]

Despite the fact that Jigglypuff was supposed to be cut in Brawl and Smash 4

[@stormpancake2069]

@@DaBloodyResh Yeah but she wasnt

[@DaBloodyResh]

storm pancake because there was extra time, especially in Brawl’s case, where Sonic was basically the only reason Jigglypuff, Wolf, and Young Link got in

[@dylanmcnab3479]

At this point he’s almost a smash character more than an F-zero character

[@LuigiFan04]

@@DaBloodyResh But at this point, they know it would piss off too many people if they cut it.

[@randomosity6878]

That moment when you’re a yoshi main and you get called out.

[@_M00nLight_.]

I am a yoshi main from Brawl

[@revirtual1532]

Ew

[@yawppy2447]

69 likes neat

[@pizzamozzarella3005]

Oh look Satan himself commented

[@coldestcomic4405]

Poor Yoshi why does everyone hate it (male)or(female)

[@keksidy]

I like how the thumbnail implies that Dark Pit stays but not Pit

[@LyleOrtiz]

But there’s no X on Pit

[@TheFatHyena]

Siiroth: says that Lucario and Incineroar would need to be removed *Agressive and depressed screm* Also Siiroth: kicks Bayonetta *Just drops Smash and walks away*

[@JVR10893]

You lost me when you said you would remove the lone representative of the F-Zero series and the unofficial mascot of the Super Smash Brothers series. Captain Falcon is one of the most iconic characters from the entire series. The phrase “Falcon Punch” alone is enough to make you think of the game. He’s also one of the original 12 fighters from the first game in the series. He needs to stay.

[@quroi7211]

He lost me when he removed Terry

[@natevandermate7203]

@@quroi7211 he lost me when he kept byleth rather than Corrin

[@quroi7211]

@@natevandermate7203 Meh, Byleth is more fun to play than Corrin

[@natevandermate7203]

@@quroi7211 but she broken

[@quroi7211]

@@natevandermate7203 Quick search on Google: Byleth: C tier, average, C tier (again) Bruh...

[@m0rt0n60]

It’s simple, the only fighter that stays is Corrin to keep everyone happy

[@IcyDiamond]

M0RT0N Oh yes Corrin, the true best gaming “all star” in Smash Bros

[@GSTURKENSTYLE]

What when did Corrin join?

[@IcyDiamond]

Cornex In Smash 4

[@GSTURKENSTYLE]

@@IcyDiamond I know it was a joke.

[@Steelbleeder]

Finally corrin will be a top tier again 😳

[@lasercraft32]

This video really puts into perspective how phenomenal Ultimate is, and how hard it is going to be moving forward. This video was very painful to watch, because every removed fighter (excluding some of the clones/more obscure characters) feels horrendous and like a direct blow to what Smash represents. Its a celebration of gaming history, so removing characters like R.O.B, Little Mac, and especially Captain Falcon (not to mention all the other characters I love like Dr. Mario that also got removed) goes against everything the game stands for. Sakurai has stated that if there are Smash games in the future, getting ALL the characters back again is going to be very hard and future games will almost certainly need to decrease the roster size. This video is proof of how difficult and almost terrifying that prospect is going to be. There really won't ever be another Smash game like Ultimate...

[@womslay]

15:19 "Incredibly Fun" My flashbacks: PK Fire, and weird G&W noises

[@taizomichael7294]

He just got rid of Plant Gang without batting an eye.

[@randomguy2916]

Taizo Michael plant gang never dies

[@GreyBoiTheTrue]

Gasp... traiter

[@taizomichael7294]

@Nathan Prins But it's not the same... :(

[@pablothewartortle3143]

Only one of the three plants remain. RIP Daisy and Piranha Plant

[@thegoldencoin2176]

sad boi hours

[@sideeswipe]

That thumbnail cutting fox but not pichu is just wrong

[@Siiroth]

I didn't want the thumbnail to give spoilers 😂

[@sfmaub234]

Cutting villager but not Dark pit...

[@TinkC43]

Cutting Mii brawler but not Mii swordfighter

[@yooitsxtra]

Cutting Ryu but not Ken

[@icardian]

Cutting Isabelle AND Villager

[@jacobpollock4034]

Siroth: The I.C are uniqe because they are a duo. Rosalina & Luma, Banjo & Kazooie, and Duck Hunt duo: Are we a joke to you?

[@josephblomberg7077]

He did cut all of those.

[@bluberrydee6205]

to be fair banjo and duck hunt function as one character

[@PugsAreCool262]

This really makes me appreciate the roster we have

[@StabbingHobo]

Get rid of everyone and keep only Donkey Kong. *nobody is safe from the spike*

[@yourehereforthatarentyou]

all 4 of them

[@NewSoupWiiHii]

All 5 of them if you remember Mario is still here as well

[@TheBoyBanditKing1911]

MURDER

[@keksidy]

Everyone is safe from his neutral though

[@shrekthealmightyogrelord3635]

Yes

[@BlynqIsBetterThanJazzy]

I understand why Corrin was cut but saying one of the reasons is "The moveset doesn't exactly blow you away with uniqueness" is kinda iffy. one of the more unique ones out there. Don't get me wrong i don't like Corrin, but at least recognize their movesets originality

[@jacobnorris8256]

Yeah Corrin is unique in the same vein of uniqueness as Byleth. Their uniqueness is mostly just gimicks, so arguably it's not really unique in the good sense, but you can't say that byleth is unique while corrin isn't.

[@gameinsane4718]

jacob norris Corrin is a walking gimmick I’ll give you that but Byleth is much harder to call a gimmick when it’s not 1 or 2 moves but their whole kit that’s that way

[@jacobnorris8256]

@@gameinsane4718 That just makes her more of a gimmick. It's still a gimmick no matter how much there is of it.

[@gameinsane4718]

jacob norris is argue they’re not. Their gimmick is using different weapons for different directional inputs. The only real gimmick is Up-B and maybe arrow. Everything else has analogs. Disjointed Nair (Ivysaur, Pit), a slow and powerful reversible special (Falcon, Ganondorf, Brawler) a long reach attack (Belmonts, swords) They’re gimmick is a play-style that takes established risky moves and plays them stronger but riskier. That’s an actual play-style “high risk and high reward” while corrin barely has pin and fades into the sword roster

[@bagel4301]

I hate corrin. He is so dumb..

[@Legendary_Shorts_gah]

My friends: “Diddy Kong sucks in smash bros” Me “no your just bad at the game” lol😂

[@yeatard]

dude captain falcon is one of the most famous smash characters

[@audiovisual51]

I don't see why Cloud and Joker stay when they have basically no Nintendo legacy, while Banjo and Bayonetta are cut when they are both honorary Nintendo characters.

[@lugozzi31]

Joker cool

[@jaydon__bmore0717]

Neither banjo or Bayonetta are Nintendo Banjo:Microsoft Bayonetta:Sega

[@audiovisual51]

@@jaydon__bmore0717 that's why I said "honorary"

[@choodledee5961]

@@jaydon__bmore0717 He meant they are pretty much Nintendo characters

[@shsldespair6763]

Banjo is rare ware, while currently with Microsoft, rare ware was originally it's own thing and partnered very closely with nintendo

[@LightningSpeedsters]

YOU CAN'T REMOVE ONE OF THE ORIGINAL TWELVE, THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN.

[@CarlosVillanueva-nv5xx]

But he didn't remove one, he removed two

[@roaringthunder115]

True

[@Mikescool444]

@@CarlosVillanueva-nv5xx he cut Captain falcon cuz "he isnt so important to nintendo legacy badayada", and i call bullshit. Both Jiggly and Captain Falcon are literal legacy characters in smash, so it wouldnt make sense to cut em.

[@CarlosVillanueva-nv5xx]

@@Mikescool444 Im well aware of that, and I totally agree, I was just making a joke, chill

[@Mikescool444]

@@CarlosVillanueva-nv5xx oh sorry, it looked more like a statement.

[@SLYDUDE81_YT]

Removing anyone from 64 is a crime idc if theyre games are dead they OGs they cannot be removed R.I.P captain falcon and jigglypuff

[@amadeus.7436]

Why though? Why does it matter? If a character sucks (aka Jigglypuff) just cut em

[@SuperBlueGamer_Official]

This is accurate but it’s still sad seeing my favourite characters being removed but I agree with most choices

[@supersp1ral908]

Aight time to spit. 1. The original 12 HAS to stay intact. That goes without question. 2. Banjo kazooie is one of the most important games of all time. Even though it isn’t talked much about, it paved the way for many of the games we have today. Also, how long has the smash community waited for banjo? A long time 3. Isabelle has to be in here. As a key part of the recent animal crossing. This is the character that most fans connect with.

[@soopercheese2872]

Personally I'd cut Villager and keep Isabelle, she's basically the series mascot at this point (give her Villager's side special though, I can't STAND the fishing rod)

[@pksprite6401]

Dumb Stuff yea but Villagers will always be important to Animal Crossing. Look how much Isabelle’s role was cut down in one game. Imagine that moving forwards

[@Serpentshand.forever]

Yeah

[@pksprite6401]

Dylan Walczak bruh it’s literally true

[@kartersala9303]

I say let cloud go. Square was already being with cloud representation in smash and I'd say that square is delighted to see cloud leave

[@EmeraldAutumn64]

“When you remove a character you’re basically removing their entire legacy” Banjo Kazooie fans have been waiting about 12 years for a new game and about 20 for a good one and yet you say Banjo and Kazooie need to go...

[@Pm3m_Dia]

He was trying to be objective and gave his reasoning didn't he?

[@bearerofthecurse69]

ßr0k3N I understand how bad everyone wanted him and all, but honestly I’d kinda have to agree. I’m not saying that I want him cut, he’s an awesome addition to the game. But if you had to cut the roster in half, he’s just got to go.

[@TheWASHINGMACHINEBOY]

lesson learned: siroth doesn't have an interest in banjo-kazooie

[@MexicanSheepMan]

@@bearerofthecurse69 I mean, not really, you can literally cut characters with no relation to Nintendo like Joker or Cloud, echoes, weird characters that just got in for the sake of being "haha funny pick" like Piranha Plant, Wii Fit Trainer, Duck Hunt Dog, the Pokemon from old generations that were just added for the sake of promoting them, like Lucario or Incineroar, half of the Fire Emblem characters like Byleth and Corrin, Banjo and Kazooie don't really NEED to go

[@NinjaPickle]

Either Banjo had to go, or two of the "Inkling, Olimar, Bayo, and Shulk" group had to go. All of them massively popular series, but if you look at these respective series, there's one that's been dormant a lot longer than the others... that being Banjo. And as for the other, it was either going to be Bayonetta or Shulk, they're about equal in terms of popularity and got big around the same time. They both represent a modern era. But I'd say keep Bayonetta, and remove Shulk. Bayonetta is slightly more iconic of a character in my opinion, and is one of the very few mature series to be featured in Smash Bros

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

This genuinely gave me an idea for some kind of movie like Infinity War. It takes place a few years after Galeem was defeated, everyone has settled down in the trophy world and all seemed calm. But deep down something was brewing, for the world was divided into two factions; the heroes and the villains. And at the center of it all was the villain league; lead by the most evil of villain with the current leader being Sephiroth. Sephiroth gets an idea on how to defeat the heroes once and for all. He orders everyone to gather the Chaos emeralds and the ultimate materia to create the super charm which he can use to eliminate half of the trophy world. Soon enough our heroes discover this plot and a great world war breaks out between good and evil. But then with a snap of his fingers, Sephiroth has done it and everyone who you have mentioned (except for the villains, and half of all the spirits) get snapped into oblivion. Then I’m thinking a sequel of this would take place 5 years after that. Sora returns to Smash after spending his time in another world to find it has changed radically. Everyone seems depressed that they have lost a loved one and the main group has been split up. After looking around it is found that Kirby has eaten himself into being an obese blob, Mario has lost Peach, Luigi has lost Daisy, and Cloud was hit the hardest as he had lost all of his friends. After a lot of convincing Sora managed to get the group back together with the exception of Cloud, who is too depressed to go up against Sephiroth again. Then with the help of someone they learn how to master time travel so they can go back in time to fight Sephiroth once more and bring back what is right. At this point almost every villain has turned on Sephiroth even thinking he is too evil even for them. Now all that is left is Ganondorf until even he leaves. Then a great battle rages between everyone and Sephiroth who almost kills Mario until at the last moment Cloud steps in to kill Sephiroth and takes his super charm. At the last moment Sephiroth attempts to kill everyone once more but is thwarted by Cloud who snaps and Sephiroth and whoever sided with him in that battle dusts away. But the power of all the Chaos emeralds and the ultimate materia took a massive toll on Cloud and in his dying breath he says “stay where you belong Sephiroth… in my… memory.” This is my stupid idea for a Smash movie, bully me and criticize it all you want.

[@CRios25]

But..Kirby’s already an blob

[@PixelTrainer.]

I love how to include Ganon, a character that's very important to the Zelda series, he removes Captain Falcon, a character that's very important to both the Smash and F-Zero series

[@robinspook-5873]

Litteraly anyone talking about cutting characters in the next game: Jigglypuff: *Crying*

[@icecontrol1]

Yeah, honestly Jigglypuff is the only one of the OG 12 that would be removed as not only she is not even relevant anymore and is not a protagonist, even Sakurai has talked about how she was going to be removed from Smash 4

[@Extra47]

icecontrol1 At least she actually appears in games unlike Ness, Fox, and Captain Falcon.

[@ravencg7709]

I swear if puff is removed I’m not buying the game - a puff main

[@justice8718]

@sufyu Surayma We only have Fox and Falcon as truly iconic smash characters from the OG 64 roster. Characters like Yoshi, Ness, Puff, and Kirby are more infamous (puff and Kirby don’t get complaints anymore because they suck). Donkey Kong, Mario, Luigi, and Link are indifferent at best. Pikachu is weird in that he is loved when he is not great or hated so much for being great (due to his small size, recovery, projectile, and pancake bullshit).

[@tariqmcmaster8668]

icecontrol1 except throughout all 6 smash games they’ve kept the original 12. It wouldn’t make sense to suddenly remove one.

[@unnamedkidn.5944]

Problems (I personally had): The Original 12 have to stay, cutting even one will never happen, even if it’s only a fan rule. Captain Falcon and Jigglypuff have made their new home in Smash, becoming iconic parts of Smash history, away from their home series. Isabelle is arguably more iconic than Villager, note the word *arguably.* Clones shouldn’t take up an entire slot, if anything, should be counted separately as bonuses. They exist on being easier to develop, and are not fully original characters when it comes to their move set. Even if Little Mac is from a basically dead series, his legacy can’t be ignored. He is recognizable as a retro character, to be remembered.

[@pixellego4773]

Nah. Villager has been in every game. I would say shes more popular in the fanbase, but villager represents AC so much better

[@adventurerisrad]

Calling Little Mac important to gaming is a bit of a stretch, imo.

[@plazmatic2664]

@@adventurerisrad more important then nearly every fire emblem character

[@adventurerisrad]

ThatGuyThatTried I agree to a certain extent, but at least Fire Emblem still has games being created to this day. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@plazmatic2664]

@@adventurerisrad yeah but come on...they would never remove falcon over robin. Nintendo is at least smart enough to know that

[@joshuasakal4134]

There's no way they would remove any of the original 12 fighters.

[@sansanabanana]

Sakurai actually wants to get rid of Mario, he always ends up killing him in reveal trailers anyway

[@Zipperable]

Stopped watching after he cut Falcon. Maybe I'll come back later.

[@davidmarkel4672]

Unfathomable he would even consider removing Falcon

[@WalnutAnimations]

Same

[@Mikescool444]

he definitely lied about the "ooo but zelda is more recent that F-zero", and is a secret salty ganon main.

[@samandadras998]

I love how all of these are comments are on this video, meaning they came back to comment this.

[@jamessalvucci3445]

It stays just as trash. He kept olimar over Bayonetta and little mac

[@scratch9349]

-Lucas -Semi-clone Yeah, right. Not even. I’m sure he would have been removed later but as a semi clone just does not feel right

[@holy.water.]

lmao right?? i mean i get some of their moves are similar but the play style is completely different.

[@jmacs8081]

As a Lucas main I feel like like the Lucas play style (or at least mine) is less about zoning and more about combos but while ness is more of a sober and an edge garder with less focus combos and more or less slowly build damage with special and smash attacks. That’s what I think though I could be completely wrong

[@neopsi1495]

@@holy.water. they don't have any simular moves, besides if the names of pk fire and thunder,but even those aren't used in the same way like ness uses them. They work completely different.

[@seniorshrek6197]

It mentally damages me that people still think that Lucas and Wolf are semi-clones.

[@kingnathan-3504]

He isn’t similar to ness

[@sunstriketacos]

Last time I checked wario is catagorized as the wario franchise instead of Mario

[@epicninjasenseidinosaurpup6957]

I like how in the thumbnail he gets rid of Ryu But keeps Ken Gets rid of fox and Falco but keeps wolf

[@ThePelum]

Damn, after all those years of banjo getting requested for smash, he's the third party character that you cut?

[@vincentfichtler7758]

@Mo Motion I was more angrier when he said he wanted to cut King K. Rool

[@izzzyishere8053]

TheMuffinMan to be fair we waited for him for years just for him to be put on the sidelines🤣. But what I like about banjo and kazooie is that they play like they have been here since smash 64

[@ginawait9240]

that’s just krool not having k.rool

[@TheRManProds]

I Say cut Bayonetta!

[@Rookspl]

I am like WTF when he cut out falcon, hes an original character you cant do this to him

[@samirbajrami5967]

Wario isin't a "Mario" character in Smash. He is represents the "Wario Ware" games

[@gamesandgaming6700]

At this point, Wario has appeared in more Mario games than in his own series, same with Yoshi.

[@RSTLegacy]

Sakurai may trick us into thinking Yoshi and Wario are not from the Mario series but their own series. I disagree with this a lot, since they have even debutted in Mario Games, and their first own games go by the mario franchise name (Super Mario World 2 and Super Mario Land 3)

[@gamesandgaming6700]

It's like saying Luigi is not a Mario character, he is a Luigi's Mansion character.

[@StevenVillman]

@@RSTLegacy If that's the case, you could argue that when it comes to Donkey Kong; so...

[@RSTLegacy]

@@StevenVillman well, yes, i think of dk as a mario character too

[@Clodling]

“I’m gonna keep Byleth.” Why are we still here, just to suffer, every night I can feel my leg, and my arm, even my fingers. The bodies I’ve lost, the comrades I’ve lost, won’t stop hurting. it’s like there all still there, you feel it to right?

[@nicolasr8224]

At least byleth isn’t so similar to Roy, Chrom, Marth and Lucina. I would get rid of corrin as there the most similar to the four without much diffence lik robin and byleth

[@bluberrydee6205]

i feel the ideal fe roster would keep byleth he's _o r i g i n a l_ and reps the newest fire emblem game which people seemed to enjoy corrin just sucked lol

[@iamresh]

having a modern FE rep makes sense and you'd obviously never remove robin or marth. the rest make sense to cut

[@chainingsparks7655]

@@nicolasr8224 How is Corrin similar to Marth?

[@KrazyKrab7]

he cut most of the fire emblem characters so quit whining

[@MrADude]

Siiroth: dr Mario’s mobile game Dr Mario’s mobile game: was taken down

[@tacobellsecurity6318]

>Cutting out Icies, Puff, Falcon, Banjo, and meta knight for Joker and Byleth what

[@TheRManProds]

WHAT????

[@patricklewis9787]

Tbh Jiggly and MAYBE Ness are the of 12 that they could cut

[@naeshaunedwards7731]

Patrick Lewis nope never they part of the original 12. The game would feel weird without them

[@frogger551]

i was slightly annoyed with icies being cut, even though i know for a fact that they didnt make a big impact on nintendo. i just feel like they could become something big.

[@Rexis102]

Honestly Joker is less important than Falcon. Persona has no Nintendo games, it doesn’t really need a slot here.

[@saxmemes4084]

They aren’t going to remove Captain Falcon as he is one of the original characters Same for Jigglypuff

[@SeanWheeler100]

Funny thing is, Jigglypuff almost got cut in every game and put back in late in development. That was why she wasn't in the Subspace Emissary.

[@saxmemes4084]

Sean Wheeler fair point. However, she still made it into every game

[@antimatterstudios8395]

If any of the 12 got cut it would be jigglypuff

[@ditto6533]

While I agree with Falcon staying, saying that all of the original 12 can't get cut is only a fan rule. Puff has been considered to be cut in both Melee and Brawl(in fact Sonic's delay is possibly the reason she stayed), and Ness was supposed to be cut in Melee in favor of Lucas

[@saxmemes4084]

Ditto while you also make a fair point, Nintendo could of easily cut both of them for smash 4, and didn’t. What I meant to express was that it is highly unlikely they will be cut.

[@monosukeinsideamcdonaldsme7937]

Personally I feel king k rool is more important as would he’s in 3 donkey king countries diddy is only in two

[@spookskeley]

MARNOS get it the uhh mario with the infinity gauntlet on the thumb nail

[@poison6084]

"Mewtwo is the only antagonist for pokemon" Team Rockets Meowth: am I a joke to you?

[@GoldWheels]

Mewtwo's not even an antagonist, nor is Meowth. For the games at least

[@MB-po2or]

Team Rocket Meowth* Normal Meowth are not bad lol

[@jahaininagaki385]

I'm soooo get tired of these oversaturated over used ass am I a Joke too you comments

[@GoldWheels]

@ANTHONY POLLOCK you could make the same joke for all of the evil teams

[@gamesandgaming6700]

He didn't say that, he said he's a semi-antigonist for pokemon in smash.

[@thewallisgone]

Which would you save? Mii swordsman Mii brawler Mii gunner “ *mii gunner has a sans costume* “

[@amazing_perk]

brawler is cooler than even funny fat skeleton ness

[@tastyyoylecake2069]

*maid sans*

[@pablothewartortle3143]

*Laughs in Mii Brawler Head on assault*

[@zorth4160]

And vault boy

[@bluberrydee6205]

mmmm bomberman or megamen which one do i keep

[@Smilifacetf]

Lol I wanted to see how long it would take me to get through the video before my main got cut 😂

[@cannedsas]

For the next game, I think the roster should take a big cut and add around 10 fighters (without dlc) to give smash that special feeling again

[@brownsfan3290]

Removing Captain Falcon while keeping Byleth is... questionable to say the least

[@justice8718]

It’s weird how no one considers to make Byleth and Lucina a special Marth skin, so the devs are forced to make Marth a good character.

[@Nosretep]

@@justice8718 Why would Byleth be a Marth skin?

[@pksprite6401]

Justice have you played as Byleth in smash? Byleth being a Marth skin makes zero sense

[@Nosretep]

@@pksprite6401 Also their swords are incredibly diffrent.

[@irritantegast2131]

Justice byleth and marth have no connection whatsoever

[@gdawg1647]

Alright Dedede’s still in, I’m happy

[@neogold4796]

Yes.

[@cumulu.s]

Yes.

[@cookieskillet6124]

I am fine with that too even though meta Knight makes more sense to me

[@suicune3776]

King dedede, even non meme based, is still highly deserving, Kirby needs more than 1 rep.

[@cheesechess-tr7pd]

I like that early on its like "i think this character is too similiar to another character so ill cut it" But in later part its like "if we remove this character we kill him in this game"

[@MayorOrangutan]

That one guy: “I didn’t dislike because you cut my main, I disliked it since Yoshi IS fun.”

[@marcobutera5133]

Captain falcon: everyone loves me and without smash I will be forgotten. At least characters that got saved deserve to be in smash more than me. MII GUNNER

[@obese_duck5954]

Yea

[@fion3il258]

Ikr. Also banjo or Mii Gunner? Megalovania intensifies

[@lukeario9542]

I mean, if we are looking at it realistically, Miis are one of the most iconic videogame characters there are... Not saying Falcon should be cut, but trying to make a case for him over Miis requires overlooking how massive Wii Sports was and how essential the Miis were to it and how they are still knocking around now when Captain Falcon... Isn't.

[@fion3il258]

@@lukeario9542 I agree however I am looking at this from smash's point of view. So many people wanted banjo in the game and I wasn't around for when mii fighter were added but I know that they aren't making a big impact on your experience playing smash. Banjo brought lots of people to smash looking to see their childhood friend in the game. In my opinion I probably wouldn't notice if the Mii Gunner disappeared. I would not care because while the concept is cool the execution really isn't that fun to play. In my opinion. Also captain falcon has kind of switched games from fzero to smash Bros. He is one of the first people I think of when I hear smash.

[@lukeario9542]

@@fion3il258 that is a fair point, although I do think that looking at it just from a Smash point of view is missing half the picture. But yes, on balance I would probably have to agree that Miis would probably have to be cut over Captain Falcon. However, there are a lot of characters that deserve to be cut over Miis.

[@RogersBase]

I would 100% include Inkling in this group at 8:21 as well. Splatoon is as big for Nintendo as most if not all of their major franchises (as evident by the amount of love it gets merch wise). Animal Crossing and Splatoon are so massive that I feel a rep from both is untouchable. Also, I totally agree that Pac-Man, Mega Man, Sonic and Ryu are all untouchable 3rd parties from this point forward as well.

[@arek.k8688]

Splatoon is massive? Its just two games and dlc

[@Zero09877]

@@arek.k8688 it's more popular then a majority of series to be more specific

[@arek.k8688]

@@Zero09877 yeah but there are only 2 games and DLC, Popularity is big i can agree and boi i am replaying Spla2n

[@robmurray9522]

@@arek.k8688 Its true even Splatoon 1 is very popular now!

[@arek.k8688]

@@robmurray9522 yeah, its online mode is F2P cuz something like "Wii U Online" dont exist, sadly i have 2 so i need Nintendo Switch Online to play... Online

[@sansanabanana]

1:09 "Except Yoshi." *Yoshi mains would like to know your location*

[@greenberrygk]

This is truly the Thanos snap of the Smash universe

[@heltinhominardi9698]

Well, I have three reasons why I think Banjo will remain in Smash: 1- He was one of the most requested and loved fighters since Melee 2- Sakurai said it was very easy to get him on Smash 3- It is fair for Banjo to stay, since he was part of Nintendo's history on the N64 and GBA

[@Bfrogg]

NONE of the original 12 will be cut (in my eyes)

[@Rookspl]

Cuts out falcon*

[@Bfrogg]

Ice-Luigi tru tho

[@seniorshrek6197]

Floofy Pupperz who would buy a smash game where Falcon lunch isn’t a move.

[@NewSoupWiiHii]

Senior Shrek mmmmmmm lunch

[@PulseAnimations878]

@@NewSoupWiiHii ayo mario I brought some FALCON LUNCH

[@gumble808]

i agree with all of your choices, although every single one of my mains were cut. :(

[@julianx2rl]

No mather how many characters get cut, all of the original twelve must remain.