Ren - Money Game Part 1 - Reaction and Discussion

[@sicmuvva11]

"Not by age but by disposition, is wisdom acquired” Ren always makes me feel this quote!

[@ginaarendtson9478]

The live gives it a way darker view that must be seen prior to moving on with the trilogy. Love seeing my generation appreciate Ren. He is defiantly multi generational ❤

[@helenjarvis7755]

I've listened to everything Ren has made over the last 17 months or So I thought never seen this version. The live version is tense and slightly terrifying amazing art This one is great on lyrics and singing and made a change tho Appreciated your thoughtful reaction

[@rebeccaburnell9319]

This!

[@margaretkichenama6022]

I needed this discussion. During the Last pandemic I saw the world working for the common good of mankind. At least during those times of darkness there was a glimmer of hope that people can unite and solve problems on a grand scale

[@dukeandace2010]

Ren is known for his one shot videos. You really need to watch the video it’s a one shot amazing

[@dbrgr68]

Love these reactions gents. Ren doe not block videos for reactors. in case you didnt know Cheers

[@M_J_Hammer]

The video for this is well worth watching, (essential imo). It elevates it to a completely different level and the impact is very much watered down in this lyric version. It is one of his most thought provoking and interesting. Unusually for Ren, MG part 2 the lyric video is the one to go for although the live version is still worth watching, it just isn't the complete song. I hope that makes sense!

[@PomadeJam]

That makes sense totally. There’s just so much that can be discussed just with the lyrics and music and listening like you would to the album.

[@curmudgeon1933]

The phrases "You can never be rich enough, or thin enough" and "He who dies with the most toys, wins", seem to me to be the most obvious signs of a broken society. When superficial image, and the outer trappings of wealth become more important than community and civil society...we are in a very dark place.

[@PomadeJam]

Agreed

[@williamparrish9954]

you really should do video for Money game 1 its live one take

[@stiofanocorra3403]

well said lads...the onetake live version of this song was incredible...keep up the good work...🟩⬜🟧

[@Irmelinis]

Very nice break down of the lyrics! It's fun and interesting to listen to you guys. 🤩🤩

[@im2yz4u17]

Hm...where did this version come from? For Money Game 2 you should probably watch the official lyric video. There is an acoustic version too but it is not the full song; it is amazing though. Great reaction as usual.

[@PomadeJam]

It’s off the album that I bought on bandcamp .

[@kevinrobb3523]

loving your discussions on Ren's music. It's a refreshing difference from other channels. I've subscribed and when I have time will go back through some of your older stuff...

[@PomadeJam]

thank you so much!

[@lynette.]

I hope you watch the video its very different and took them a long time to get it down in one take. Construction work etc.

[@MalcolmMXTaylor]

another great discussion! i didnt know there was a lyric video for part 1 actually, you should definitely watch the live one as well purely because it is a one-take video, but for context this lyric video portrays the story perfectly well to get the discussion going!

[@PomadeJam]

thanks!

[@xxnik76]

Love the conversations that ren's music evoke...so thought provoking and human! Things that seem we're in short supply of these days xx appreciate u my friends!

[@lynette.]

Surprised you didn't do the powerful live video. Very Avant garde .

[@elwray3506]

Very much enjoyed the discussion!

[@dbrgr68]

you guys will love part 2 but watch the video pls

[@ladonna9938]

Great discussion! Sorry you got so much flack in the comments for using the lyric video. I am so happy to see you continued on with the Ren journey and didn't let it stop you.

[@PomadeJam]

Thank you! The lyrics and the song are so powerful, I thought it would be interesting to just focus on those and see what discussion ensued. His videos are amazing, but the songs stand on their own too. I really appreciate your comment.

[@elisabethstermo9396]

Ren is 34 years old.

[@PomadeJam]

Thanks!

[@mcguigance]

I get this is your channel ..just saying most ofvthe Renegades like video reactions, but you are different. Definitely recommend doing the lyric version for part 2 it hits different

[@morecrayonsplzmcw4836]

Fire

[@PomadeJam]

thanks!

[@rebeccaburnell9319]

OK. So MG1 (live) & its video are one of my favourite pieces of art on the planet, but I *love* the format you're going with on this channel. I'm sure you may receive some flak for choosing to do this lyric version vs the video, and I *kind* of agree because my god is that video important... but on the other hand, the video is so captivating and uncomfortable that it's hard on first watch to take in even the "easy to catch" lyrics. The visual story unfolding in front of your eyes DEMANDS your attention and sets your brain buzzing with new questions every second. And even some of the SERIOUS bar-breaker-downers have trouble deciphering some of the lyrics if they haven't pulled them up to refer to. But the lyrics are so important. So maybe this was a good choice, to ensure the guys focused on Ren's penmanship and message... and to keep your video FOCUSED on the message, because otherwise you wouldn't have had as in-depth a discussion about the lyrics since the discussion would partly have been pulled into discussing the meaning of the video. Which of course when watching that version, does need to be discussed in conjunction with the lyrics, and... PLEASE DO, at some point! But I really appreciated the extent to which you were able to dive into a conversation inspired by the lyrics here. And I'd just like to mention... WHOA, I know I've only been a Ren fan for a bit more than a year now but I'm on Disability and spend *a lot* of time listening to Ren/hunting down Ren reactions on KZbin, and I've somehow NEVER heard this studio version of one of my favourites. It was actually disorienting! Super cool to find a Ren recording I wasn't familiar with... even if there's no way I prefer it to his delivery in the live video version with Big Push bandmate Romain Axisa on guitar. Keep going! These deep dives into Ren's work have been great, and also are unique Ren reaction content (or at least "not the usual"). (which I *also* love of course, but I'm very happy to find more people setting up conversations like this 👍) 21:50 - I'm an avid foodscape gardener; I upended my life to move out of the city to have room to grow fruit and nut trees and berry bushes and a huge minimal-dig "lazy gardener" garden and keep chickens, ... and that's entirely because when I began gardening, I got hooked by the feeling of well-being you get from the harvest. I'm a foodie at heart, but my Disability income leaves me living below the poverty line here in Canada, and when I harvest 200 heads of garlic you cannot buy in stores for ANY amount of money, I feel wealthy beyond measure. Garden-grown zucchinis are an entirely different vegetable than what you buy in the store imo - and my GOD do they produce abundance! Hell, I feel wealthy when immersed in the smell of *good* (not anaerobic/sour) compost, when I'm turning the pile. Lettuce season will begin here in a few weeks, and for at least 2 months if not more, I'll be feasting on HUGE salads built upon lettuce - some varieties of which simply CANNOT show up in stores because it can't be shipped or sit on shelves; it goes directly from the garden to my table. I basically don't bother buying grocery store lettuce that's affordable to me, because to borrow a turn of phrase from a gardening KZbinr I watch, it "tastes like disappointment." But I seek out and grow lettuces that do well in the chilly early season conditions, and others which hold up under at least some exposure to summer heat, so I always have a mix on offer. Don't even get me started on green beans. Connection to and immersion in the living systems necessary to sustain human life is the real wealth, imo.

[@PomadeJam]

Thanks for all your comments. Yeah, I basically wanted to just focus on the lyrics for this reaction. Responding to the video is a whole other ball of wax. And the lyrics are so important. I also wanted it to be more like the experience of listening to the album. Keep on growing stuff (tomatoes are my favorite thing to grow).

[@elevown]

LOL- you are the only reactors who have managed to fail to even watch this incredible MV and just listened to it lol. How did you manage to fail so hard especially when one of you is a film maker?

[@zelenozubi]

✌️🔥

[@williamharris7357]

I exited your channel as soon as I seen you were watching the wrong video

[@PomadeJam]

you're missing out on a great discussion concentrating on the lyrics. We watched the official full videos on the other 2.

[@samarafgscvs]

You didn't want to do the music video?

[@PomadeJam]

I wanted to concentrate on the music and the lyrics, more like just listening to an album.

[@bobbyduegrr3347]

You missed the whole point of Ren by not reacting to his actual video. It’s a live one take that he’s known for.

[@DS-zj4xy]

Really missed the boat by not watching the live video version. When given a choice with Ren, go with the more complete sensory experience.

[@ericpetty8387]

Pointing out the problems is easy, but solutions, not so much. In money game 3, Ren says we could have a utopia. Wrong. As long as there are individuals, there will never be a utopia.

[@williamparrish9954]

Ren is 34

[@PomadeJam]

ah, thanks. He is amazing.

[@ericpetty8387]

Sorry, wrong video to watch.