Renault Clio Rear Engine Mount Replacement

A DIY attempt to make a solid engine mount for a renault clio 1.2 16v.
These clios seem to have a woefully vague gear change and the gearstick does a lot of jumping and bopping around, the main reason for it jumping is the rear engine mount or torque reaction link holding the engine and gearbox.
The old mount was the original one and quite perished, but the new one was the same spongy design so i decided to attempt a DIY mod to make it more solid by wedging bits of exhaust hanger rubber into the gaps and filling the mount with tiger seal.
A polybush kit would undoubtably be much better than this, but this method is the cheaper DIY way, and seems to have worked quite well
With the new mount on the gearstick seems to do a lot less jumping about, to be honest i didn't let the tigerseal set fully when i put the mount back into place but as the stuff cured further it got more solid and the gearstick moved even less.
The Nissan primera 1.8 my dad drove until last year also had a similar problem with its gear stick (presumably a great idea shared between nissan and renault was to use this sort of rear engine mount)

[@MrSqueeezebox]

great job, I cut slightly larger pieces than the gaps and used washing up liquid to force them into place. Once dry I sealed them with a rubber adhesive. I have pretty much no movement at all now. Thanks for your help, very easy job guys.

[@stevepowell6761]

Great vid and thanks for giving socket sizes, good job.

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Glad to have helped. With regards socket sizes i find it helps to avoid the comments asking what size different fasteners are. Although do people buy sockets individually? A full set is surely much more useful for working on a car and generally not too expensive.

[@rowanhennigan1982]

brilliant mate, only took me half an hour after watching this. Thanks a lot

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

On the clio getting this mount off didnt require the jack, although the side engine mount did as it holds the weight of the engine, ive done timing belt videos on both the clio and the 406 (take a look through the playlists) that will give you an idea of the engine mounts, im not sure what way the 206 is setup but it shouldnt be too different if you have an XUD or HDi engine its probably more like the 406

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

The 2.0 HDi engines lower engine mount can wear out and cause this to happen, it is a bit of a pain to get out (you need to get the drivers side driveshaft out first) but if you get it out a polybush would be a much better option.

[@stevepowell6761]

Watched vid, went and did mine in 20mins, easy, great vid 👍

[@davieboy198607]

The lower rear engine mount for the 306 is the same size as the one on the 406, so powerflex part number PFF50-306R is you have a diesel 406 or part number PFF50-306 if you have a petrol Have seen that people on the forums have fitted this part to there 406

[@oldcargeezer]

Thank you for this video, these are really useful when attempting a job on the car.

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Thanks for the comment

[@oldcargeezer]

peugeotCitroen2CV Yep, after watching this video l did the job this afternoon and it went well, just as in yours

[@andyrantshumanphilosopher7571]

Is this a pre 2005 mk2? D4f 712? Ive got an 05 d4f 722 engined one and it has a flywheel cover with a strut brace that ties to the underside of the center end, between the bolt and the bushing

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Hi there, this was a 2002 Clio

[@rileymullins9457]

Cheers mate if the dog bone mount has gone would it cause a tapetting engine noise almost like the labouring engine noise when your in the wrong gear. When putting the engine under load like harsh excellerating thank you so much

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

do they sell such a thing for the 406, that would be great, could you send me a link for it?

[@davieboy198607]

Yeh messed the threads up in 3 out of 4 of them. A local garage said if I can remove the hub and take it to them he will see if he can tapped new threads in but if he cant do that. Its the front drivers side. Is it just a case of wheel off, remove brake pads and callipers, disconnect droplink at hub, disconnect wishbone balljoint from hub, disconnect drivershaft from hub at hub end, Remove nut holding suspension to hub then pull hub out and replace with new hub in reverse?

[@trelcomultiskilledtraders1334]

Any idea if this is the same mount for 2005 1.2 renault clio rush?

[@MrHowardMoon]

Do you find the Clio's clutch quite difficult to push in when driving the car? Mine's hard to push in compared to other cars I've drove.

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

It never seemed too bad, fairly light. Although i havent drove a clio in a few years now, it certainly feels a bit spongier having a cable operated clutch rather than a hydraulic one.

[@theatlanteanlads8298]

Mine does that aswell, found also it snatches no matter how soft i left the clutch out

[@antoniocerbone802]

Nice Video Man. I am going to do it on my Kangoo because the engine movement makes the gear stick move a lot and it is very annoying. Also I am very curios to know what is that metal pipe that runs parallel to the right of the mount. I have researched it on the internet but I cannot figure it out. Thanks.

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Hi, hopefully the same job on the kangoo will tighten up the gear change. That pipe is part of the gear linkage from what i recall.

[@antoniocerbone802]

@@peugeotCitroen2CV Thanks man. Hi eventually found the time to do replace the dogbone mount. Yes it did tighten up the gear change and now also the engine does not stutter when taking off from a stop. So much so that now reverse gear it is very hard to shift. Do you know what can cause this? Before replacing the rear engine mount should the gear be shifted to specific gear? Thanks again for your very helpful video

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

@@antoniocerbone802 Hi again, not too sure about the reverse gear. Ideally when you change the mount your just replacing it for one with less movement, it will not actually move the position of the engine or gearbox. Unless there was so much movement before that it stretched at the cables. It may be worth removing the air filter box and battery box to inspect the gear change cables. Also the cable that is operated by the gearstick where you lift up to engage reverse. I dont think the gearstick had to be in any specific gear before changing these mounts.

[@davieboy198607]

I need to take wheel hub assembly off to see if I can have bolt holes tapped as I've Fecked a few. Do I need a puller to remove hub assembly and a press to 're fit new assembly with bearing?

[@davieboy198607]

Thanks ordered a red powerflex polybush for rear mount

[@BEARdavey]

Cheers for the video gas helped me out on my megane coupe n like yours didn't need to support the engine

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Have you stripped the wheel threads? I think there are helicoil kits or something named similarly, the 406 i was breaking had the same issue, if you get them tapped you will need new bigger wheel nuts, which means one wheel will have different sized nuts, personally id just replace the hub, even for one in a scrapyard. Is it the front or back? Ive done videos on removing the rear hub and front hub.

[@69440833140]

very usefull thanks my friend i have a rallye 106 it's excacly the same procedure!

[@davieboy198607]

I have a peugeot 206 2.0 hdi90 and I have the same problem. Would I be better to put replace rear engine mount with a polybush one ? there seems to be a lot of engine movement when starting the engine and shutting engine off

[@91silentninja]

Kk thanks do you think its a bit off a hassle for something that I dont really need but just looks nice

[@guillermodelarosa1786]

Genial cuantos soportes trae el clio

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

good job thanks for the comment

[@91silentninja]

Hey how do I remove the gear knob on the clio mk2 could you describe as best as you can

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Its not really much of a hassle, it does take a bit of brute force and ignorance to get some of these gearknobs off, but refitting them is much easier even if a bit of strong adhesive is needed.

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Thats good to know, thanks.

[@neilmedler]

Great video. Thanks! A question regarding bolt sizes front and rear... you mention the head size, but what thread and length are they? The forward bolt has fallen out onto the road somewhere. Thanks again.

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Hi Unfortunately​ i didnt measure the bolt length of thread pitch, although a scrapyard should have a few clios lying about with this bolt still present.

[@deed-dotripoli5260]

Thank you great video 👍🏻

[@alexwilkinson1689]

Couple of questions for you: 1: can the same procedure be adopted for replacing the front engine mount on a Y reg clio? 2: before replacing it, the front offside road wheel was worn on its outer edge. Al the other ones were fine. Is this a steering alignment/tracking issue? I'm confused

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

The front engine mount as in the one beside the timing belt is a bit different, you would need to support the engine on axle stands, remove the mount bracket for access to the mount then change the mount. As for the wheel, it could be an alignment issue, things such as hitting a kerb can knock it out of alignment causing the wear.

[@wiwittjokro5188]

Mantul❤👍

[@MrMuzammil2288]

thanks for the video that really helped

[@MT-tt4ss]

what torque setting did you use?

[@johnelguiri3800]

thanks pal. helpfull video.

[@kaviaulum8088]

Hello, getting the same kind of problem in my clio d type year 1997 1149cc. How can you help?

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

How do you require help? Have you inspected the car to see if its the mount?

[@adambridgeman1935]

Thanks again for another great video, I'm doing my drop links and rear mount tomorrow and had a quick question. Not bothered about the drop links but it's the first time I've got under the car when on stands and I'm a bit apprehensive to say the least! Just wondering where you jacked it up and exactly where you put the 2 stands? I did my driveshaft 3 weeks ago and put the stand directly under one of the bits of box section that go from front to back directly underneath the seats. Looking at it I should only be under there 10 mins but it only takes a second to squish me! Thanks so much again

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Adam Bridgeman I understand being apprehensive, i still would be claustrophobic under a car. I jack the car up on the sill using the jacking points, if the sills are rusty or clad in some plastic bodykit then i go for the subframe or back suspension, then put the axle stands on the solid parts of the subframe and back suspension. Dont extend the stands to their fully up position as they can get a bit wobbly (this depends on what type of stand you are using, and make sure they are all sitting level, ie that each axle stand has its 4 feet firmly on the ground, put the cars wheels under the sills and if you want even more put some tree stumps under the cars sills aswell, and to test the solidity of the stands push the car a bit, not too hard but enough to see if its rocking. I also try to avoid being completely under the car when doing work i prefer to reach in from the side and get to the parts.

[@adambridgeman1935]

Cheers mate, ironically I haven't long finished it, I put one stand on that bit of subframe plate underneath the box section I mentioned, and another about 3 foot further up on the box section. Solid as a rock :) was done in 5 minutes... Now for my drop links. Couldnt undo one of the wheel nuts so went and got my tires done first. Just got back and still can't get the one undone, and snapped my wheel brace in the process.... Uh oh!

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Adam Bridgeman Is the wheel nut in question one of the locking wheel nuts? As for the wheel brace the ones cars come with these days are crap, just a bit of bar welded onto the end of a cheap socket, the weld usually breaks a the first sign of resistance. Get one of them telescopic wheel braces they are a good thing to have in the car incase a wheel needs to be changed. Its as well the brace broke at home and not at the side of the road.

[@adambridgeman1935]

Haha yea that would be a nightmare! Trying to persevere with a rachet and bar at the moment... Would be so bad if I hadn't sheered my extension bar a few weeks ago doing up my driveshaft hub nut!

[@tfowleyx]

Is it possible a bad engine mount would cause the gearbox failure light to appear on the 1.2 clio with auto transmission. I've been trying to diagnose this problem for a while. A lot of clunking in low gear changes and when over bumps and the transmission light often comes on. I've changed the dog bone mount and and the problem is still there. Visually the mounts look fine but then again I'm not really sure what I'm looking for.

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Have you checked both this dogbone mount and the one at the top of the gearbox that connects it to the body? Being an automatic there can be other issues, i have never worked on a renault automatic but they can give issues, has it had its fluid and filter changed?

[@tfowleyx]

peugeotCitroen2CV hey thanks for replying! I've checked both mounts and they seem fine. Doesn't seem to be any movement in them! The fluid and filter hasn't been changed to my knowledge. The car has only done 40,000 miles. Is this something I could do myself?

[@mrsflossylil]

How much do the mounts cost if it's needed to be replaced?

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

If i recall correctly the one i put in this car cost £15

[@CoinBahd]

what is the OEM part number for the rubber mount?

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

To be honest i dont know, renault parts catalogues are hard to find. Although google/ebay should assist in getting the part numbers.

[@TheWuzyy]

How long does this repair last?

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

My mum drove this car for a few years after this repair was carried out, i then sold the clio. It was not a problem when it was in the family.

[@MrDamian911]

great video

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Thanks

[@brahimnadir5102]

thank you

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Thanks for the comment

[@brahimnadir5102]

wich number of keys has been used?

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

This car was supplied with the two standard renault remote central locking keys.

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

To be honest ive never done it, but it has been discussed on renault forums, (Google Renault forums: Clio gear knob replacement) I have done it on my 406 which has a pull up reverse and can say it wasnt easy and putting on the new gearknob did require some JB weld

[@Mixbag]

i did this and i still get alot of movement on stick

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

The clio gearstick seems to move around quite a bit in general, although it might be worth checking the upper gearbox and engine mounts.

[@kolfamalo8399]

hi i drive a megane 2 with the kim k ass.... haha And my engine mount under car is gone.. you can dance the engine by hand.... do i neet to support the engin while removing the unde rengine mount also same located ?

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Haha the Kim K ass, funny although I know exactly what Megane you are talking about. The rear lower engine mount as I have replaced here no you shouldn't need to support the engine, it will rock from front to back a bit when removed (don't turn the engine on with it out) just be wary of nipping your fingers. The engine will still be supported by the main engine mount beside the timing belt cover, and the gearbox mount, if you were replacing either of those mounts then the engine would need to be supported.

[@kolfamalo8399]

@@peugeotCitroen2CV i sold the shitcar on saturday. Got me an aygo verry fuel efficent jahaha

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

@@kolfamalo8399 Fair enough, quite a lot of those meganes have ended up in scrapyards. I've never owned one myself but driving them there are some creaky bits of trim and some odd designs like the handbrake lever. Having said that they were a lovely looking car, the model of Megane that came after it was incredibly dull looking by comparison. The aygos i think are good wee cars, not too much to go wrong.

[@madcarer31]

Did you have an issue with reverse mine just keeps popping out so can't really reverse

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

No it was not something this car had any issues with

[@madcarer31]

peugeotCitroen2CV I'm new to Clio always had vauxhall but really struggling with the reverse clutch bit thanks for reply

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

What year is yours? The gearboxes generally are not too bad on clio​s although if it been used by a 1st-time driver or driving instructor before then these issues could happen.

[@madcarer31]

peugeotCitroen2CV 54 plate

[@1tibbers]

yes you fixed the problem. But you also added lots of vibrations.

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

It wasn't really too bad, yes a proper polybush is very solid and causes vibrations but this still had enough play in it.

[@MrSqueeezebox]

I didn't notice any vibrations at all, feels like a new car.

[@shaunpenn8669]

Will this be the same to change a scenic Y reg

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

I dont think the scenic would have the 1.2 16v engine but it probably has some sort of rear engine mount

[@shaunpenn8669]

peugeotCitroen2CV its a 1.4 16 valve but it's got the same mount, it's the twisted one. had it on axel stands earlier looks straight forward, got a horrible vibration when setting off, I was under it earlier and I could move bottom of engine slightly so think it needs changing. stange thing is, is doesn't do it to till about half hours driving then it happens, had a new clutch put in about 6 months ago so I don't think it's that.

[@MegaSlash25]

Hey i have A clio with d7f engine, sometimes My gear stick shakes very much When i start from A standstill. No other gears have Any problems. Could this be engine Mount or is it My clutch?

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

It could be the mount, although if you accelerate and decelerate does it move?

[@MegaSlash25]

@@peugeotCitroen2CV no not more than seems normal..? My thought is that it can't really be the clutch as no other gears have any problems?

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

@@MegaSlash25 The clutch on its way out will present itself as revs rising much quicker than the car accelerates.

[@MegaSlash25]

@@peugeotCitroen2CV ah so thats definately not the case. Do u have Any idea as to what it could be then? Seems like the engine/trans mounts would cause more shaking when accelerating

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

@@MegaSlash25 There is a lot of force involved when the car moves off from a standstill, how violently is it shaking though.

[@Monkeyism1996]

top job safety first

[@JU0800]

I replaced the engine mount but the gearstick still moves exactly the same as before

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Did you modify the new mount at all?

[@JU0800]

@@peugeotCitroen2CV well the mechanic replaced it and i doubt he did, what a waste of money

[@JU0800]

A mechanic after all should know this

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

J U J U Ah it depends on the mechanic, modifying the mount may be a bit beyond what they thought was necessary. I did need a tube of polyurethane windscreen sealant and the exhaust hanger. A lot would simply dismiss the movement as normal as a lot of clios just feel that way.

[@JU0800]

@@peugeotCitroen2CV you are 1000% right, when I bought my car back to the mechanic about it he just simply told me its normal. Now I feel like an idiot

[@thebossisheretostay]

are the engine mounts in the same place as in a nissan?

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

The micra shares quite a lot of parts with the clio, but i don't know for sure if it uses the same engine mounts?

[@thebossisheretostay]

peugeotCitroen2CV ok thanks, do you know if the M9R engine fits into a clio engine bay?

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

thebossisheretostay Thats the 2.0 Dci engine, I don't know if it drops right into a clio II, the biggest diesel it got was the 1.5 Dci, although pre facelift clios did get a 1.9 diesel. Physically a 2.0 engine should fit as the 172 and 182 models are 2.0 engines albeit petrols without any turbos or intercoolers. Its something that would require research you would need to change the suspension and steering to suit the 2.0 dci engine, not to mention changing the wiring and ECU to work with the engine.

[@thebossisheretostay]

cheers for the info, yeah bit of a pipe dream haha. i got the 1.5 at the moment think it could be an interesting build though.

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

thebossisheretostay Im not sure of the exact numbers but the 1.5 engine can be remapped for extra power, it will keep the car lighter at the front than with the heavier 2.0 engine.

[@DjDizzyWales]

Great Video mate thanks........ Sorry but I can't help myself from sayng this as my mind must be a bit warped so my brain came up with ..... ' My god if he can undo a nut and bolt that fast think how fast he can spank one out '... lol...delete this if you need to and No offence intended.

[@peugeotCitroen2CV]

Haha a vivid imagination The footage is sped up but in real life it all has to run at normal time unfortunately