Renegades React to... Internet Historian - The Failure of Dashcon

[@sam-psonsmith9951]

I don't see how it failed. Dashcon was a perfect representation of what Tumbler is. Spot on 10/10.

[@ma.2089]

Actually, dashcon was the catalyst for how tumblr is perceived now. Back then it was a more wholesome and comforting place.

[@alexwashere1601]

The moment I heard them sing We Are The Champions. ME: look how they massacred my boy

[@CommisarHood]

Yeah I think Freddie Mercury span in his grave a few times when that happened.

[@ihavenoideaatall7381]

Them singing that song while showing how incompetent and foolish they were is the definition of irony

[@Become-Eggplant]

Just hearing the song coming from them, ESPECIALLY The "No Time for Losers! Cause we are the Champions!" made me laugh. Cause they are losers and they've won the Idiot championship.

[@Tamaki742]

One of the founders of Dashcon, who immediately got pushed out of any ownership status by the eventual owner (who screwed up everything and scammed everyone) is Lochlan O'Neil. She was 15 at the time of the con, and she made a video talking about what happened. She said she was the one who came up with the ideas for it, and claimed it was her fault that any of it even happened, which is commendable, but at the same time she ultimately had no say in what happened. The actual adults running the whole shitshow would rather pretend that everything was out of their hands instead of taking responsibility. Like heck, Lochlan ended up being the one passing over the badges, and not even allowed to go to the toilet. Then she got locked out of her hotel room.

[@ZyroShadowPony]

Really? Where did you get this info I cant find it anywhere

[@Tamaki742]

@@ZyroShadowPony From her video, she has a channel here, Lochlan O'Neil.

[@ZyroShadowPony]

@@Tamaki742 just found it. I made the mistake of not putting dashcon on the search and got a bunch of other Lochlan O'neil

[@TwinklesTheChinchilla]

@@jazzycat8917 So basically a microcosm of a Democrat-run city, but with fewer riots?

[@Nyx_2142]

@@TwinklesTheChinchilla This fits so much its a bit unnerving.

[@dustinrausch5008]

5:10 There is kind of an explanation for that. Apparently, the Dashcon organizers sold the "We need $17000 right now" thing by claiming that the hotel staff were a bunch of bigots who hated the con-goers so much that they suddenly jacked up their fees out of nowhere. So, everyone thought that they were taking a stand against hate, I guess. Still stupid, but in a different way than it looks.

[@Bob-lr2xp]

Ah, the Ghostbusters 2016 strategy. Only works on mentally-handicapped land whales.

[@Dr.Oofers]

I’m so confused. What are these two comments?

[@Pyromat15]

The perfect followup to this video is Internet Historians video "The failure of Rainfurrest".

[@andrespolo2722]

Don't forget the Fyre festival.

[@Pyromat15]

@@andrespolo2722 They already did that one.

[@ManaAdvent]

And the reading of My Immortal, the Harry Potter Hot Topic fanfic.

[@thewittywhygaming6487]

Me: Only uses tumblr for porn. Tumblr: Bans porn. Me: "You have lost all appeal."

[@tylerpoirier3699]

honestly, tho, who used tumblr for anything other than porn

[@BaeBunni]

@@tylerpoirier3699 the people that went to dashcon

[@tylerpoirier3699]

@@BaeBunni Good point, and yet, they probably did too haha

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

thats sooo true... there was so much porn on it and that was the only reason i ever made a tumblr-account

[@jesuszamora6949]

We'll always have Newgrounds and Twitter.

[@becorky]

You talk about tumbler like people still use it after all the porn was removed

[@Yuki_Ika7]

the population lost at least half of the users with that move (including me)

[@jacknapier8201]

I mean I still use it but just to fuck with the socjus crowd

[@Nyx_2142]

@@Yuki_Ika7 They lost easily 75% of their user base and that is me lowballing it. 70%-90% of the content on that site was porn.

[@xolotltolox7626]

@@Nyx_2142 Porn was the only reason I even got a tumblr account

[@DrMuttmen9]

@@xolotltolox7626 me too

[@CommisarHood]

Internet Historian did a video on the 4Chan-Tumblr War you should check it out it's short though so you watch another with it if you react to it. Also if you want to hear more about Dashcon Internet Historian did a Q and A on his second channel.

[@tomcatdude105]

"We'll all sigh together" is the most tumblr thing ive ever heard

[@That_Doctor_Del_Fella]

"Humans are just animals. Sexy, dirty animals." - Micah 2019

[@TheNexDude]

Oh man this Convention was a failure of amazing proportions. People severely underestimated the idea of planning shit out in advance.

[@iamnotamouseok]

I didn't even know what Tumblr was while this was happening. I have an account now and people speak of DashCon like some kind of horrifying legend. I didnt realize it was that bad, y i k e s

[@Battlemage15]

4:21 Spicy Question. Legendary Comeback

[@achyka3802]

tumblr consists solely of fandoms and lgbtq+ content. The first mistake the organizers made was believing that they (a bunch of normal folk) could afford to make a convention suited for that audience.

[@TheNexDude]

Tried to please too many audiences at once and ended up fumbling everything and failing miserably.

[@Tamaki742]

And trying to get A - listers to attend the con, like- What? Granted the ones who started it were teens, but the ones who ended up taking charge of it were adults who just ran with it. Basically conning people, and the people they did invite (Welcome to Night Vale cast, etc) got screwed over too. After the failure these adults also decided it's a good idea to run another convention. People found out, and they shut it down not long after.

[@ma.2089]

The organizers was a 19 year old girl (or 15, she might’ve come up w/ the idea at 15) whereas a bunch of 30 something man and woman children were just incompetent morons

[@Tamaki742]

@@ma.2089 Lochlan O'Neil, right?

[@jenneacubero1036]

"Not everything has to be gay." Tell that to the GiveElsaAGirlfriend group...

[@cybertek3188]

Exactly!

[@simsgirlgem]

Not gonna lie I was in that group but it was because Elsa was single I hate when they take a straight character and Reskin them as LGBTQ its insulting and lazy

[@xolotltolox7626]

@@simsgirlgem Why do you assume Elsa to be straight?

[@simsgirlgem]

@@xolotltolox7626 why do you assume she’s gay she could be asexual

[@xolotltolox7626]

@@simsgirlgem I'm not assuming anything, you are just strawmanning me

[@619Slipk]

No matter how many times I watch this, when there's the "These champs have no time for losers" I always lose it

[@Fuzon-S]

Ohh boy, can't wait for the Rainfurrest, Tumblr vs 4chan, and iPhone Massacre reactions...

[@sorenmine7765]

5:15 of course he's taking off his shirt. How else would he try it on?

[@bryan0x05]

I just put it over the shirt I am wearing...

[@BlackCap784]

i came for a laughing Micah. instead, i got a cringing, uncomfortable Micah. that was more than what i bargained for.

[@alucardavathorn8930]

There was alot more going on behind the scenes that Sarah Z covered and wow Basically one of the volunteers was significantly younger than the others and about 17 or so at the time maybe younger But basically this minor was with these adults thinking she would get good experience , she worked for free - big mistake. She was excited at first but then the other members of organising the convention dropped their part of the workload on her when she was originally going to be an assistant and they basically lied to her about alot of stuff. She was overworked and stressed thinking this is the worst work experience in her life and then to make matters worse the other organizers were off spending money right from the start and also were making promises to dashcon fans who were planning to attend. To make matters worse she had to find this out months later by Tumblr not her higher ups so by the time she knew that they wanted these big names , she had very little time before the convention. Even worse on the other organizers was they blamed everything that went wrong on her when in actuality she was the only one giving a shit and trying to salvage it. Welcome to night vale were meant to come to the hotel and be paid , but someone took that money and pocketed it so they didn't bother even showing up because someone else leaked that they wouldn't be paid before the convention. That fundraising thing for 17,000 ? Some of that cash came from the what was promised to the other volunteers. The teenagers working for free and the young organizer included basically they came back to find their hotel rooms hadn't been payed for or in some cases weren't even booked in the first place. But the main organizers made sure to pay for their own suite and that also meant meals for the volunteers were cancelled because their food was meant to come with the hotel rooms. People slept on couches of generous participants of the con but there wasn't enough to go around because the people who payed for tickets with the hotel included didn't get their rooms either so it was just people who booked separately who had actual rooms for the con. Eventually people get blankets , coats and whatever they could to sleep , some even talked to staff for a chance to sleep in the lounges near the reception but that meant they had to be up before checking in reopened in the morning. Infact whats worse is some of the tickets advertised with behind the scenes VIP shit included acts that weren't even emailed to ask if they wanted to come to the event because even using the email of the event was locked behind the highest up in the group of organizers.

[@Karloss00]

My last year of primary school had a school president run and they actually managed to fund and build an outdoor play gym with slide, monkey bars and everything. Problem was we as the oldest kids didn't get to play on it because we graduated to high school. It's still there twenty years on.

[@MewKage13]

Holy shit am I glad that I managed to avoid the side of Tumblr that they talk about when I was on there. Then again, I was only there for art and some fandoms.

[@lorik2005]

MewKage13 to be fair, most of the art is fairly good quality

[@justafan9399]

Good on you. I couldn’t imagine tip-toeing around a bomb of that scale waiting to go off.

[@sincerelyotaku7878]

Nothing good can come out by making a convention based on a blogging website. That's like if Zuckerberg tried to make a Con based on Facebook, it would be really stupid.

[@ZION73082]

Facebook now trying to call itself " Metaverse " ... sometimes foreshadowing can be obvious! 😎

[@Dillku]

hey I went to a small anime con and they made back money alone on food cuz they wanted to set a point but it wasn't enough to hold a big con and it was a free con and small like 20 ppl max, they got the money back tho on food

[@Dillku]

@Miss Misery mhmm and the person who did that con used to do a big con in my city too but sadly one year they broke even and didn't want to gamble on it and stop doing it :/ and I mean thats fair but it sucks. no dashcon has zero excuse other then being a scam and greed

[@Dillku]

the fun part was, he showed us all how to run a con cuz he was getting old and wanted his con to go on! so I got to learn some stuff

[@mr.weirdo5756]

Thank you!!!!! I love Internet Historian and Reaction Videos about him May you do ‘He Will Not Divide Us’？

[@AWACS_Snowblind]

Oh, _that_ was cringy? _Wait until you hear about Rainfurrest_

[@assaulthetz380]

Urrgh.. no, it seems being my weeb days are more better than that.... i shuddered after i watched Internet Historians about them...

[@silvertail7131]

As I understand from poking around, there's a much deeper story to the dysfunction in the leadership of the con, which tells a story more of... incompetence, and mind-numbing hubris that, kinda makes it seem like it couldn't have been an out and out scam. There was too much going on behind the scenes... some, wrongly, really thought they could make it work... and the rest thought they were smart enough to run the perfect con then did literally nothing to help it.

[@metetural9140]

You watch the 4chan-Tumblr war vid by IH. It's a good laugh. Oh and the "He will not divide us" videos by him

[@mgunter]

The word you're looking for is platform. A utility is a government regulated monopoly/duopoly/oligopoly.

[@thelivingglitch1371]

4:07 Apollo has a Hell of a throwing arm.

[@EddieB-ready]

Steam-Powered Giraffe would've been the one saving Grace, honestly.

[@NorthshireGaming]

"And someone pisses in it..." What a perfect cherry on top of a shit sundae.

[@FireLightVS]

Any chance you guys will finish off Womble's DayZ bullshitteries? As far as I know, you only watched up to part 11, but there are 14 parts to that series; not including the three part seige on another clan's base.

[@demoneon9527]

Can’t believe he didn’t cover the dash con baby.

[@Historyreader23]

Oh dang, Micah... It has been a thousand years...

[@alyshamcalpine2238]

you have to watch ‘any polls a goal’ and rainfurrest videos!

[@therogueadmiral]

Hey nate, you know that 4chan counter trolling you talked about? Internet Historian did a video on it. Called the tumbler wars.

[@AsmoganGaming]

(I'm AlecEccentric) Happy to be a Patreon Supporter! As a fellow Reactor and as a fan It's absolutely my pleasure! Also if you guys ever want to play Warframe I'd love to play with you!!

[@Lifelessdummy]

Internet Historian Q&A to this video is a good watch. The bounty is up to $200 for any part of the video

[@theguyishere249]

Renegade Media Group. You guys should watch the youtube series tales from the internet. Its similar to the internet historian but he goes more underground. Recommendation the silent hill circumcision theory. It sounds messed up but its really funny and not as bad as you might think. Also if you see this comment i just want to say o love videos.

[@elephantpowerproductions]

25:00 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻NYES!

[@TOXTHEWOLVERINE]

That 1 lady was the smart one to ask those questions and saying what it is

[@daikaijugamer6967]

"Cus you're all a bunch of twats" Nick 2019

[@mr.cheese1865]

2:45 video starts here

[@naheethebrave]

Thanks Caleb

[@teenagefreak1330]

2:47

[@ABoy242]

belaC sknahT

[@cha0sxiii63]

Wait until the get to IH's Rainfurrest video...

[@keagenblizzard819]

The tumbler 4chan war is actually another video by the internet historian. You guys should react to it

[@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly]

*Yessssss I love internet historian!!!*

[@all_late_gamer5695]

2:46 is when the video starts. Also guys seriously check your equipment after every third video or at least after the first video so the rest of the videos don't end up having an issue. Also take the keyboard away from that man on the left.

[@KamuiPan]

No you are wrong. KZbin declare itself as a free-speech platform (new town-square) but acts like a publisher. They want the good of being a platform and avoid sues, but they act massively as a publisher to promote who pay them. Most of these NightShow would have near 0 or some hundreds or few thousand video per video if was not for the massive free boast that they got from youtube, even if you say that you are definitely not internet in their channel they will find a way to come back to your suggestion or recommendation tab. Tomfuckery. The algorithm got butcher by Google that's the fact. The initial idea of Broadcast Yourself is slowly floating away in a attemp of the Paleozoic media, the legacy media to come back. How the democrats and other plantation politician would do without their brainwash machine that's the MSM? I really had hopes for youtube after Google bought it, I guess I was wrong again.

[@SmokeyOwOs]

Damn, so the adults helping the founder were the ones fucking everything up.

[@fluffyhales]

I'm gonna be completely honest here. Yes, there are a lot of fucked up idiots on Tumblr but I don't think it's entirely fair to say that everyone on the platform believes they're intellectually superior or to insult the platform as a whole. I'm a fan of you guys, and I agree with a lot of your points in this video but I think that there are dumbasses like myself on tumblr that just want to have a fun time and interact with people with similar interests to ourselves. Regardless of that, I am genuinely a fan of the channel and have been for a long time :)

[@yureiwa7471]

I love you guys soooooo much

[@sz5042]

Tumblr 2013: "We're worth a billion!" Woke Tumblr: "We're banning porn" Woke Tumblr a week later: "The fuck happened?!?!" BROKE AS FUCK DEAD Site:"We're worth like...uh...20 million and you can write off half of that in taxes and use our woke culture to write off some more!"

[@ryanc1478]

Well, 4chan used to have panels at Weeaboo conventions.

[@brothersgt.grauwolff6716]

18:37 😂😂😂😂

[@Karnork]

Please react to: "How to make Norwegian Black Metal" by Pagefire

[@sydney2942]

This is some fyre festival shit

[@thebrowncat23]

Honestly I just look up reactions to internet historian so i have an excuse to watch his shit again

[@Twiska]

RainFurrest video is gold.

[@akreiger8122]

Hmm.. Good taste.

[@dargswafflehouse]

You should react to UpIsNotJump. He's pretty funny, and makes some good points in his videos.

[@MULTIAPPLECATZRULEMLP]

You guys should watch the tumblr-4chan war by internet historian

[@Bob-lr2xp]

More Internet Historian and Alternate History Hub

[@triggerfairy4070]

Keeping the characters sexuality vague in this current year, is just like a welcome invitation to shipper. Bad idea.

[@ernestopineda2515]

The video starts at 2:48

[@ebrannock8139]

Ah the student government. What fun times, Softmore year the kid who won didn't even have a speech or a tie and just read (literally it looked like pen when I had class with him later) off the back of his hand. Still not quite sure how he won, I didn't vote for anyone. To be fair to Junior year they promised us a new clock for the cafeteria and they got it, but only because the Vice President bought one and brought it from home.

[@affinitytrooper6060]

Any Poll's a Goal by Internet Historian pleeeese or He Will Not Divide Us series

[@sciencebat]

Llamathrust

[@deshawnedwards6412]

React to Nostalgia Citric Barney's Great Adventure.

[@eternalmiasma5586]

Glad welcome to nightvale didn’t go to that trash, they didn’t deserve that

[@TrueRiderFan]

Guess I must be part of the tumblr userbase that just deals in fetish content and not social justice.

[@kiesgrubennessi1927]

Honestly the only reason i use tumblr is because its a dying website.

[@santiago5317]

React to "My Immortal" trilogy by Internet Historian please !

[@Domino365]

I second this!

[@geisterwolf397]

He will not devide us season 3

[@jameswhite153]

didn't a bunch of Sherlock obsessed tumblr users try to solve an actual murder? I read that somewhere.

[@documentingbruhmoments788]

Hit the Quan on my grave if I die

[@ChaoticIntention]

Funny that there's entitled A-holes that want to insert characters as A-sexual and get mad when they could be straight, and it's on good manga, anime, cartoons, movies, comics, and games, nothing wrong being gay or lesbian, but let it develop and make sense, also MAKE THE SERIES YOURSELF. People LITERALLY added at the end of Legend of Korra, extra animation of Korra kissing Aisha, seems ok, they're EXs that had the same guy trouble and bonded together, that's development, just seem strange and forced that the guy they dated did that to them while fighting with them where they trust each other to have each other's back

[@maciekx10]

A TOTALLY legit Wind Waker Speedrun (WORLD RECORD) by SCOTTFALCO!!! WATCH IT!!!!

[@tylerpoirier3699]

would reddit-con work out??

[@robertwoods3871]

YES

[@Shythalia]

I only joined Tumblr just for art reasons.

[@rando9556]

Watch the furry con one it is a doozy

[@Lomes]

wtf... what? I- I’m- What?

[@tribaldragon-vids9373]

wouldn't be tumblr users without cringe

[@PowerSpirit50]

Can you please do My Immortal!

[@jay-vg2tq]

React to Nostalgia Critic's The Lion King

[@simsgirlgem]

This is why I left tumblr

[@kingofmonsters14]

*buries face in hands*.... and this is why i never go to cons.

[@Vampwatch1462]

And this is why I don't use Tumblr.

[@jarrettrowan6262]

Micha knows the names of the 4chan boards. confirmed nazi?

[@John-Stark]

These days that word's more of a badge of honor to most of the internet outside of Twitter and Tumblr

[@matt36866]

4chan v tumblr... no contest. 4chan beat the church of Scientology years back who had millions of dollars worth of backing

[@reverse6722]

*Cancer* 100

[@nignog7288]

Notice me daddy

[@solarblind7572]

coolio

[@johnsanchez9944]

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