M1 Pro vs M1 Max - Don't Pick WRONG!

Should you get the M1 Pro or M1 Max MacBook Pro?
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Despite all the reviews, all the recommendations, all the benchmark LARP, it still seems just super hard, really an inconvenience to get a simple, straight, easy-to-understand answer on whether you should get the M1 Pro or M1 Max MacBook Pro and why. Battery life vs. performance. Portability vs. power. All the things. Well, I’m going to give you that answer!
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[@ReneRitchie]

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[@ISmokeI]

What do you think can go toe to toe with the m1 max chips that isn't an apple product, while on battery?

[@patrickwuschko9780]

You didn’t heared bout Neutrino what?

[@tmbflyer]

I realize most apple tech reviewers never have to worry about using old mac’s as a daily driver, but the reason I am buying the M1 Max is because I plan to use it for the next 5 to 7 years at least. I am on my 3rd MacBook and average 6 years between each. It is nice to have someone talk about the future proofing potential out of the M1 Max.

[@cuddlesxu5208]

Totally! My old MacBook is Early 2013 15.4'' MBP. I used it nearly every day during the past 9 years since bought. It still works fine for lite work, but slow for video editing and photography retouching workflow. So I recently bought a 16'' brand new with M1 Max, 64GB RAM, 4TB SSD for the future 10 years.

[@arvinsim]

Until we get FaceID and better performance on the new Macbooks. Then your "keep it for 5 to 7 years" defense will crumble and you will give in and buy one. Don't try to future proof your machine and buy what you need today.

[@Vaptomwen]

Most tech reviewers don’t use a lot of things going by the amount of devices used as a daily drivers. Often there’s also a noticeable difference between their loaner products & those who actually own them. No warranty worries , no protection, no screen protector & so on

[@jw_au]

Agree, same reason to bump up the RAM…

[@michelkant]

Your reply beats the sense out of nearly every video about this subject. Long term: prepare for the future. Short term: keep some money to yourself

[@cahenglish]

"If you're doing music with a ton of plugins..." Thank you, Rene! It is so seldom that anything other than video rendering is mentioned in reviews like this.

[@DanielandYuka]

Ordered a 16” M1 Max with 64GB Ram and 8TB SSD, and it FINALLY arrived 2 days ago… This thing is a beast with exporting and encoding video from Final Cut Pro, The speakers and screen are amazing! Upgraded from a 2018 Intel MBP i9 32GB RAM, 2TB SSD… night and day!

[@maxwellcoleshow]

Another great video. Very informative. I had a fully Maxed out Max and realized it was overkill. I agree with you. It’s ridiculously fast!

[@FoxxFire]

Man oh man, I love these videos. I don't feel like I've ever finished a video from this channel and haven't found myself better informed. I think that's the best compliment I can give to any creator, and this one certainly deserves it.

[@ReneRitchie]

Thanks so much, means a lot! Any videos you'd like to see next?

[@colinstock325]

I have a 16gb M1 mini with 512gb internal ssd. Should I want a laptop then the M1 MacBook Air is likely to suit me the most or at a stretch the 14 inch M1 pro MacBook.

[@jeffhale1189]

Thanks for your video: very helpful to me as I discern my next purchase. Blessings on your day.

[@josephcotten4015]

LOVE the subtle callout to Ryan George/Pitch Meeting! Also, killer video. This is so apropos today in March 2022. Thank you!!

[@gravitymediapro]

This was truly excellent, and the best advice I’ve watched on the new Macs. Thank you!

[@kennethjackson4858]

Mr. Ritchie, don’t have either machine test, but I do use an iMac Intel with 32gb ram, 1tb. I do music and do have sample libraries and want at least 32gb ram, but it seems I would like to do videos soon (for me and documentaries). I know it’s a lot to ask, but I want to spend My correctly. Hope I hear from you to what MacPro would be better for me?

[@canosisplays5152]

I know a lot of pro’s that use M1’s, myself included. I simply don’t have the workload to fully leverage what the M1 Pro has to offer. Which is great! Apple has blurred the lines of what is pro and what is consumer grade products. The good news for everyone is the once consumer priced products are now pro-viable options depending on what you need.

[@roguewavecreative]

You pretty much nailed it. We have an ad agency and were using MacBook airs to run Adobe creative cloud no problem. Yes of course some people need more. The thing that I find very light not very genuine is Renee talking about battery life. Of course the pro in the promax is not gonna have the same battery life unplugged. The problem is how Apple presents it like it is going to I have friends that have the pro in the max and it just doesn’t last as long as the air or the MacBook Pro 13 inch it’s just not going to but you shouldn’t say that I could do some thing I mean who is going to buy a Max or a pro to just search the web. Now I say that and of course a lot of people would. My point is is that I just think it’s a little got a hate using the word disingenuous by I think it’s very weird to compare those two. And also I agree with you they have blurred lines but I think that’s a good thing because I don’t think the majority of people really need the max or the pro. Yes it’s faster but how much faster. Yes I know it’s a lot faster but for most people I would guess easily in the 80 to low 90% range you can do work that you get paid for on the M1 air and the 13 inch MacBook Pro or the M1 iMac and you are more than fine

[@bgimusic]

@Jaquan Kelsor If you're a pro who needs the better screen for pro photo/video work, you'll know. If you need better 3D graphics renders, you'll know. M1 is amazing, but not if you're using Blender for anything 3D. You can definitely do video on M1, but if you depend on that for your income and do many in rotation you can use the extra speed of the MacBook Pro.

[@bgimusic]

@@roguewavecreative don't let the Pro name determine your enjoyment of a product. You are a pro, but design is not as CPU intensive as video or 3D. I know some of pros who make a full income working on 2012 MacBooks :o. The M1 laptops have P3 displays. They are so color accurate and great with contrast. If you need to make HDR content you may enjoy the pro more tho. Don't let the name fool you. The 2020 Macbook Air M1 keynote included pros for a reason. And these people need to know what they are buying. There are more efficiency cores on the M1. There are more performance cores on M1 Pro/M1 Max than efficiency cores so yes the battery life is different, but tasks are being completed faster even if not explicitly noticed. Another thing is they are not lying. They are not claiming battery is the same on the Pros. They are talking efficiency and performance per watt. 🤍💡

[@conradofmc_ny6706]

@Jaquan Kelsor people are never happy, when apple was departing from professional computer (like when it started) people say apple was terrible for doing this, now they go back,,, then apple is terrible for doing it..

[@carloisidoresalcedo6325]

@Jaquan Kelsor Well, capitalism is doing us a lot good dont you think?

[@JanineMKartist]

I'm loving mine but it anyone finding trackpad scrolling sluggish? It glides with the Magic Mouse but feels sluggish and sticky with the trackpad? time or a Genius Bar visit maybe?

[@ggpaghi2990]

First video that I watch from you. As a matter of fact I’ve just purchased a Pro Max 32 core GPU, 16”… My choice was based on experience. I am using a MacBook Pro 17” dual core mid2010. It still works. The only issue is that the new adobe suite won’t upgrade fully. I’m 55 and if this new machine last as much as the one it replaces, it should more or less outlive me. As you say in your closure “I buy what I need ad what I can afford”. With the insane race to megapixels, plus all the computational aids from camera manufactures, these devices will produce insanely heavy files. And that is before using Adobe Photoshop’s layers!

[@romeorb8166]

Thanks, this review open my eye more about which MacBook to buy,

[@bolttracks]

Long story short: if you even need to ask yourself whether you need the M1 Max then you don’t.

[@fledgling5616]

Lol, so true

[@troy_neilson]

Great video. It would be really nice to hear your thoughts relating to machine learning capabilities when describing Apple pro gear for those of us working in this space.

[@ReneRitchie]

There’s currently no differentiation between them. M1, M1 pro, and M1 Max all have the same A14-generation 16 core Apple Neural Engine, same Matrix multiplication accelerators on the CPU, and same machine learning controller. The only difference is the amount of GPUs if your particular machine learning happens to tickle those. Totally should’ve mentioned that, thanks for pointing it out!

[@drsuppan]

Here is a straight answer. If you use Davinci Resolve go for Max with 32 cores. DR uses all the cores, you will see it in functions like stabalising

[@togeika]

I'm extremely happy with my Mini M1 16gb for editing 360 video. It is the main reason I bought it. The current laptop dilemma is amusing, but nothing that applies to me.

[@cevisuals]

EXACTLY...

[@classicaloracle]

These videos pop up as recommendations but I note there are rarely any real-life clips. Few, if any people, need the computing power of these devices, including Ritchie himself. I agree with you, the M1 Mini is just fine and will cope easily with most 4k content needs. 8k is still silly right now and if your final cut timelines are that complicated you may be missing the point! The endless hype and bait-clicking really turns me off. No subscription from me.

[@platin2148]

I got it because if wanted a new macbook after 7 years using the 2014 one. I bought the max because if want to maybe keep it for 3 to maybe even another 7 years. I got 32gb RAM because 16gb is sort of standard now so getting a bit more for future. I took the 16“ because i had the 13“ before and that always was a bit of a problem with screen space. I do mostly programming with 3d stuff as i made maybe clear in other comments. I might do in future videos on programming so having these media encoders as long as i don’t directly use it in one of my programs can really help to get these things processed quickly. What i made also maybe clear in comments under other videos is that we shouldn’t expect it to beat a Asus Zapahrus or something like that in Performance. But that’s ultimately not really interesting anyways for my use cases. Being honest about performance and seeing the difference between that and PPW is definitely a key thing.

[@ReneRitchie]

Yeah, 16 is a good base for the MacBook Pro but I still like matching RAM with cores, so 32 GB feeding 32 GPU just feels balanced to me 🤣

[@SithTracy]

I elected to go with non-binned M1Pro w 32GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD. It made sense to me since I am coming from a 2014 i7 15" MBP that was spec'd out (3800 US at the time). I wanted smaller and I figured this was a huge upgrade from that system. And to me, AArch64 is still a gamble, but one worth taking as I feel x86-64 has not really been impressive the last few years. I think this Mac is great (Monterey, not so much, yet). I figured this will get me through the next couple of years and perhaps Apple will sell a unit I want with the ports and perhaps, in addition to internal expensive storage, they through in a NVMe slot to add storage internally. I do very light video work, but mostly photography (Capture One/Affinity as I dumped Adobe a few years ago). I hope in two years time these machines give us more.

[@tresderan10]

For videoedting no speed needed but reliabilty with 4k and the cheapest ... how is the entry level?

[@likemarksee]

Please demystify the smart home with apple home kit. So many smart widgets to choose from, but where does your data go to switch on that smart plug or light, that you bought on Amazon? Should we worry about smart home security/privacy?

[@christanzafra1570]

Another amazing video again from you Rene I’m really happy and enjoying watching always your videos Good Evening From Philippines 😍🙏💯

[@user-bm5ge5gc9v]

Thank you for the valuable information,it's a great device .How much I dream of, but it's expensive, as a matter of help , whether you have a used MacBook or an old generation that you want to do without ,I need it and thank you ,and allow me to intrude on you😉

[@Capetown2233]

How about Mini M1 max with IPad mini 5G with sidekick ? Saving money on MacBook m1 and wait for MacBook m3 ?

[@teadish1448]

Excellent comparison! Thank you for all you do!

[@sambergphilosophy]

Would anyone be able to tell me how to spec one of these for heavily formula based excel and spreadsheet use? Don’t want super overkill, but want some overhead space

[@anothernumber9753]

I got the 14 inch because I felt like the 16 inch was just too big and I got the 32 core M1 pro because 16 gb ram was not going to cut it my computer would usually use 24 with regular plus swap but I don’t do graphically intensive stuff so I didn’t get the max.

[@andymead7066]

UPS lost the first M1-Max MBP 14 (32GB, 24GPU) that Apple shipped in late October. In the month it took me to get a replacement shipped, I watched a bunch of videos by you and other KZbinrs running different configurations through their paces. I'm a sports photographer, and the configuration is great for me and should be future proof for years to come. That said, In all the testing by you and others, I rarely saw you get the fans to kick in. I can make my MBP M1-Max sound like a hovercraft with this simple trick: Play Sid Meier's Civilization VI via Steam. Mid-game the fans are screaming. I got the laptop the day before a work trip. I didn't have time to set it up to use it, but I took it along to work on it in my down-time. Which included a cross country flight. Within two hours it was alerting me that the battery of my day-old MBP was getting low and that I should plug in (which I did). The game plays great, but it definitely works the machine hard.

[@cameronf3343]

Games more intense than internet flash games or mind-passifying App Store games should never be played on a laptop. You can absolutely expect something so advanced as Civilization VI to drain the battery rapidly no matter what laptop it is. While the GPUs are impressive, all Apple laptops are still optimized for productivity tasks which make high use of CPUs over GPUs. There are gaming laptops out there but the majority of them still also last less than 2-3 hours a charge when playing. No laptop will ever be viable for demanding gaming until an immense battery innovation and rollout is achieved. GPUs are simply too demanding of hardware.

[@romieorock]

When do you think the newer models will be released?

[@samueldenbesten]

Great job, thank you!

[@terryclair2914]

Has anyone done Low Per Mode testing for battery drain compared to Normal Mode on the 14"?

[@patrickforan6458]

Really feeling that "longevity" comment. I have a 2008 MacBook Pro (Core2Duo, upgraded to 6GB RAM and SSD) that was my daily driver for 10 years. I use multiple computers now, but I still use the 2008 pretty much daily and it holds up so well. Just ordered the 16" Max; hopefully it keeps the flame burning until 2032!

[@kevinthompson4229]

Wow, did you put an ssd in the 2008?

[@CryptoSharknado]

The pro max has multiple extended displays correct? Annoyed I got an M1 early on then realized i can only use 1 extended screen

[@kenzoblytheproducertv4934]

What’s more powerful,iMac i9 or a new MacBook Pro Max M1?

[@benjhaisch]

This is still what I’ve been waiting for

[@hypoluxa]

I bought the 16in M1Pro as is, and am quite happy with it. I haven't put it through any major paces but the battery life is great on it, and playing a few games I have has been good.

[@DistrictDarko]

what games u play on it?

[@ArthurET]

The pitch meeting reference at the beginning 👏😂

[@KirkMonteux]

Does anybody know whats wrong with apple? I did order and fully paid a 16" MacbookPro M1 Max with mactrade which is a Germany based apple provider on October 22 in 2021 and still waiting. They telling me week by week that apple won't deliver my order. Whats wrong with apple?

[@marklitherland888]

Hmmmmm - that's me 100%. I think I want an M1 Max but the availability really sucks. My main workload is editing 4k XFAVC in Davinci Resolve onto a 1080p timeline. My 2013 Mac Pro just isn't doing the job for the larger projects and I'm increasingly editing away from home.

[@johnnyguzman2519]

I’m a freshman, I’m starting college next month and I’ve never owned a laptop. I’m majoring in computer science and I don’t know if I should get the basic MacBook Pro 16” or get a cheap laptop and wait till next year MacBooks ? But I will waste the double or even more if I do that. Any recommendations?

[@_hold_the_line_]

Get the base 14 inch. You will hate carrying the 16 and the 13 inches haven't got enough screen real estate for coding.

[@davidalan6701]

My 2012 MacBook Pro has essentially been working for just about a decade, but I haven’t been able to use it professionally for about 3-4 years. I was going to upgrade in 2020, until the rumors of what we now now as M1 was coming. Now, I’m rewarding my patience by getting a fully maxed out M1 Max, and just being able to use a personal laptop professionally again is going to make all the difference, and I bet I can make it pay for itself. If it lasts anywhere close to as long as my last one, I’ll be thrilled, and I’ll be shocked if it doesn’t.

[@roguewavecreative]

There is absolutely no reason unless you do logos for $10 that you can’t pay for that in no time at all. Andy Clark who is really well-known I’d say he’s more website developer than a Designer although it is both tweets all the time about he cannot believe how great the Apple M1 maxes. It’s an amazing machine that being said I have an ad agency and were using MacBook airs an M1 IMAX and we are having no problems with anything. I really think it comes down to you know can I do this faster and you know there are some people that need all that power but the majority of people don’t need it. They really don’t really don

[@sgeggbub1008]

@@roguewavecreative In 10 years time though, the regular m1 and the m1 Max could be the difference between a slowish performing laptop, and still a speedy one. Only time will tell

[@TobyCostaRica]

My friend who isn’t tech savvy had the choice between buying my 2016 Touchbar and a new M1 powered MacBook Pro using my corporate discount, he instead went and bought a $2200 pre-owned 2020 intel MacBook Pro a month ago. I tried to get him to return it, but he said he likes it. I face palm 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@TobyCostaRica]

What kind of work do you do? My MacBooks go several years but they pay for themselves 100x+ over in that lifespan. My biggest motivation for getting new is not faster render times, etc, it’s user experience. Scrubbing through 4K vids smoothly, running tons of photoshop actions, having your adjustment be visible instantly makes the work much more enjoyable. My 2016 Touch Bar will play 4 seconds of 4K before stopping, you just can’t edit like that

[@AllWordsAreDust]

Does it have a HDD or SSD? I had a 2012 15" pro with HDD and dedicated graphics and it was a bit of a disappointment performance wise and only lasted 3 years. My 2017 13" integrated graphics pro (cheapest in the pro range at the time iirc) felt like a HUGE performance upgrade, likely due to the SSD, while being much more portable and is still going strong with 5+ years of hard daily use (albeit with two battery replacements so far).

[@mikekaylor1226]

You are the absolutely the Apple authority for Mac geeks on the web. I'm very thankful that we have you around to do all of this back breaking research. Thank You

[@ReneRitchie]

Oh wow, thanks so much! What video would you like to see next?

[@aprilscraftroom]

Thank you so much - I did have that question and you did answer it. :-) April

[@legendjxli1266]

So i just finished with Highschool. I want to go to Graphics Design Uni next year. In my years at Highschool i learned how to code etc. But i want to switch to Design. Now that my Laptop recently died i need a new one. I decided to go for a MacBook Pro 16“ as i love the big Trackpad, the better Battery and the better heat management. I asked the uni what they require (specs). They said MacBook with M1 Chip, 16GB (better 32GB) RAM and 512GB (better 1TB) SSD. I will plug in 2-3 external monitors. I guess for now 2 should be fine but maybe in a few months or years i want a 3rd (they most likely will be 4k monitors). As i often work with 5-8 open programms that i all use at the same time. I will be working with normal things graphic designers do (photoshop, illustrator, xd, also webdevelopmemt and UI), besides that i will be cutting 4k videos for a sidejob. So it could easiely be the case that i just finished a Video and export it. Next to exporting i listen to music and work for uni (graphic things). Also i want to go a bit future proof due to the fact that i want to use this MacBook for about 6-7 years i would say, maybe even more. So i definitly dont want to get a new one in 3 years. Thats why its so hard for me to get the right specs. Can someone help me out or share their experience. Im just getting into graphics design. So idk how much performance all these adobe programms require. Im not rly on a budget but i dont want to waste my money. I see this as an investetment for my school carreer, my first job, etc.

[@michael-4k4000]

Loving you Ritchie!

[@sirclarencedarrow]

My last MacBook Pro, a 17" MacBook Pro, lasted for a decade, and I hope that my 16" Max with 64 GB RAM will last for another 10 years.

[@CreeseWorks]

Solid breakdown Rene

[@calgreco8607]

Well I went with the M1 Pro 16GB/1TB 14" But all I do is pay bills surf the net etc. I hope it lasts a lot longer than 5 years though! My 2011 Early Spring model still works all though the sound is low and not all sights work because of browser! I put in extra Ram so it is 16gb and a Samsung solid state Hard drive.

[@stephenstyffe4670]

I'm torn on whether I should wait until Fall / Winter of next year to upgrade my MBP. Do we expect Apple to update the M1 Pro & M1 Max MBP models on a yearly cadence for the foreseeable future? Or will it be a 2-year update cadence? A 2-year update cadence would make sense, given that the M1 MacBook Air and the M1 13" MacBook Pro launched in November of last year and they haven't been updated this year.

[@LittleMountainLife]

I’m pretty happy with my 14” M1Max. 🤷🏼‍♂️ It’s plugged in 99% of the time but it’s nice to have the option to take it just about anywhere with its smaller size. And I feel like it’s a solid investment future proofing my laptop needs for 5+ years.

[@savedbybravado4382]

Have you ever kept a work computer for more than 5 years prior to this one?

[@hoagy_ytfc]

Exactly the same here. I think the M1 Pro would probably have been enough for me, TBH - I need CPU more than I need GPU. But the M1 Max, 64GB 2TB model was a stock item in UK stores, so I could get that one immediately when most configs were on a six week delay.

[@LittleMountainLife]

@@hoagy_ytfc yeah good point and I also had stocking issues and was kind of forced to get the max if I wanted it quickly.

[@LittleMountainLife]

@@savedbybravado4382 4 years is max until now.

[@philipmcdonnell7168]

I decided the 64Gb M1Max Pro with the basic 1Tb drive would suit me best. My MBP mid-2012 has only just started to fail to be sufficient from a RAM point of view and (rendering) speed. So, this just confirms I'm making the best investment for the next 5-10 years. Thankyou.

[@WorldvsTruth]

Good job. I'll likely be getting the same specs unit, as I've enough external storage to back up anything of serious importance. Also - I don't want to put any more money or work into my MacPro 8-core 50lb beast - time to sell it off and lighten up. Moreover, my late 2011 MBP really is late - as of October 2021. I'm sure your new MBP will serve you well for several years, since clearly you take good care of your hardware.

[@sripalxilinx]

I got the same configuration

[@qwertyzxaszc6323]

I put a lot of thought into my order. I eventually settled on the base model for two big reasons. Most 3d modeling software as well as music and video software which could really make use of the extra GPU cores have yet to be fully optimized for Apple Silicon. And two, ARM V9 is on the horizon and will able to handle more complex tasks than the current V8 M1 Macs. So While we wait for those two things, and all the dust has settled, possibly as early as next year, we would really be able to make good use of a far better MAX vs a Pro. Let’s remember, these are first gen Apple Silicon Macs.

[@Kluttzv]

Exactly went with base M1 max 16 inch. I They’re probably going to last me more than 4 years for what I do but by then money isn’t an issue. Ima just keep this laptop until it starts underperforming compared to newer models

Rene, lovely video! Thank you again. I wanna share that today I dreamt with you, you were not using glasses and it was super strange haha.

[@mtf1911]

Thanks for the reviews. Which 2020 model would you Recc below? Appreciate the help! 1. MBA - $1259 8/8 Core 16GB unified memory 1TB SSD1 2. MBP - $1295 8/8 Core 16GB unified memory 512GB SSD1

[@TheNordicHunter]

I’d go with the Air. The 13 in pro you are referring to won’t give you anything more unless you’re maxing it out for long periods, because it has fans, but even so, you won’t see much difference at all. Plus you are losing SSD space.

[@trevorrnicholas7114]

I’d say make a choice based off what size you want If your concerned about the 16 being too big then don’t get it if it’s gonna bother you. But I have a the 16inxh and I love it. I don’t think it’s too big for anything I got the 16 simply be I like the big screen everything else is a bonus

[@reecea5432]

Got the 14 inch M1 Pro 16 GPU and 32GB RAM. Really overkill for me but I am loving working on the device without it turning into a wind turbine or a lap heater coming from an i9 16inch. Hopefully will have this for a good 5 years or so without FOMO kicking in.

[@TheRealMrIncognito]

Hi i am still considering 16gb or 32gb.. Do you think its needed to get 32gb?

[@aktn_p1kaso830]

@@TheRealMrIncognito it entirely depends on your workload and what you need for now and maybe over the next couple years. If you’re using a multitude of applications that really weigh on any given machine then you’ll know if 16/32 is better for you.

[@DontGetDroppedCycling]

Glad I purchased the 16” Pro base and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! My hr long race videos exporting in 10 minutes without the laptop taking off still BLOWS my mind a month later! Keep up the great work!

[@alvinfrancis776]

Did you encounter mac os bugs?

[@DontGetDroppedCycling]

@@alvinfrancis776 a couple of beach balls here and there while closing programs but I’m sure subsequent OS releases should fix the problems.

[@ryanw8664]

@@alvinfrancis776 Final Cut Pro and Microsoft Outlook have crashed on me a couple of times. Kernel panic repeatedly when watching KZbin HDR. iPad keeps freezing in sidecar mode. Otherwise been great! /s

[@StefanUrkel]

@@ryanw8664 Apple needs to slow down on its OS releases and get them solid before release. This seems to be all too common lately. Maybe it's the status quo there, not sure, as I haven't always been following their OS releases & bugs that closely.

[@zakiradi450]

@@ryanw8664 same here. Final cut Pro has crashed a few times on my M1 pro.

[@bakurafann]

This video was extremely helpful! I wish I came to this video before wasting hours trying to get my questions answered from other KZbinrs who provided 0 helpful information for my use case. Liked and subbed. :)

[@TechDoneRight1]

What will have better resale value in 2 or 3 years

[@umanoid1523]

Hmmmm. I do a lot of music. I also do a lot of design. I had already assumed id need some version of MAX. Ive been waiting for a desktop version(Preferably a mac mini with the pro and max chips) since i already have monitors and work in one place. Portability isn’t an issue. Im still using a 2009 5,1 mac pro tower with 64GB of ram (Hacked and maxed out) which works ok but its showing its age with too many audio plugins.

[@andrewshortt4665]

5:58 this is a perfect example why I don’t watch many of your videos. 😂

[@hawaiiopihi]

Good video however little long winded. Would be nice to cut to the chace and give a summary upfront or end of the video of your recommendations.

[@carloisidoresalcedo6325]

Hi Rene! I took the $11 offer but nothing would play. If you could help me out please. Thanks !!!

[@PcHabitat]

Awesome video sir, thank you. Im getting the M1Pro for Web Development purposes which I think should suffice correct? Also my biggest concern really is Chrome which I know is just a process hog. I have been using Edge, I think its prettysmooth. What ar eyour thoughts sir?

[@mbvglider]

Regular M1 is fine for web dev, honestly. Even the Pro is overkill. Still, get the 16” base model because that screen size, pixel density, and color accuracy is a killer feature for being able to work on a single screen. Also recommend an iPad for SideCar so you can put your terminals and consoles on a second screen.

[@PcHabitat]

@@mbvglider Thank you for your reposnse sir, should I be concerned about chrome slowing my system down?

[@PcHabitat]

@@mbvglider Ive beein using edge on my 2015 macbook air and that works good but Chrome slows it down so Im worried chrome on the M1 pro will also slow it down

[@mbvglider]

@@PcHabitat I use Chrome for work and in my experience of about a year, M1s handle Chrome fine. There's a native Apple Silicon build that works well enough that I haven't noticed anything different about it. It's still a resource hog, especially with Dev Tools open, and Safari's lighter on battery and RAM and greater on performance, but I really do prefer Chrome for development, and I don't really worry about it much when I do have to use Chrome. M1 Pro will not struggle at all. Also, for some reason, Google Meet is broken on Safari right now so I have to use Chrome for that anyway. I'm on Chrome right now. I've also never had more than 16 GB RAM on M1 and I have 16 GB M1 Pro now. I'd prioritize storage over memory if you have the budget for a bit more.

[@PcHabitat]

@@mbvglider Thank you so much.

[@cameronf3343]

Now by the time I’m in the market for a new computer the M2’s will be out. But I personally prefer having my laptop be my moderate-intensity computer and a desktop be my high-intensity computer, for obvious reasons but power management being the main of them. So even though the Max chips are tempting to put into a laptop I definitely will be doing an M2 Pro chip in a laptop and an M2 Max or Ultra chip in a desktop. For people who only want one computer it’s definitely sensible to just put in a Max but for the way I use my computers, it wouldn’t.

[@CraigCruden]

The decision was simple for me... I like and have a 3 monitor setup... Pro was not an option. The only decision was really 24 vs 32 cores on the GPU and at that point, that was a small difference - not worth thinking too much about - just do it.

[@Spidouz]

Almost the same for me, I need 64GB RAM, so Pro was not an option neither. And I need 8TB Storage too, so the only decision was also between 24 or 32 core GPU, mainly since I don’t really do any intense video work, or 3D tasks, but it was only 200 bucks difference, so at this point it doesn’t even really matter when we’re on point to drop 7 grand… so I went with 32 core GPU.

[@bolttracks]

@@Spidouz sooooo what do you need the 8 TB for then???

[@AlexSchwartzATV]

i have 3 monitors with m1 pro and have no issues.

[@kevinldaniel]

​@@AlexSchwartzATV Thanks! I've been searching for this.

[@AlexSchwartzATV]

@@kevinldaniel Glad it helped. Ones 1080p, ones the 14inch MacBook screen, and the other is 1440p 34" ultrawide. 100-120hz on all of them.

[@doggiehowzer]

I knew I didn’t need the GPU cores of the Pro or the Max but I just can’t go smaller after using the 15” Retina since 2014.

[@ed_ms]

Those new M1 Pro's and Max are way more powerful than most of the people need, even for the years to come. A 2020 M1 still remains a great choice for many: portable, powerful and very good battery life. Unless you plan on maxing out a 2020 M1, than it might be smarter to look for an M1 pro, you'll get more bang for your buck.

[@nghiale8517]

I want to render 10 hours 4k gaming video on Ps5! Which one should I get?

[@slowercuber7767]

05:58 "but I'm not not going to not not say it, either" Thank you for the chuckle.

[@dotapark]

Thank you for the video. I think I should get 16 inch and M1 Pro. Now I have to think about ram and storage.

[@ReneRitchie]

16 GB of RAM is my base recommendation. If you're doing heavy workloads, you'll know you need more. For storage, typically get double what you have now, because storage creep is real and having to live on external drives on a laptop low-key sucks.

[@dotapark]

@@ReneRitchie I think I need more than 16GB ram based on my experience with M1…also I’m thinking 2TB storage so, maybe I have to choose between storage and ram upgrade. Thank you for the detailed advice. 😊

[@TheNordicHunter]

@@ReneRitchie I’m at a crossroads right now I have a base M1 MBA and my son wants to buy it for school, web business, and doing KZbin videos. So I have the opportunity to buy a new machine again. I’m torn on 16/32, 14/16, and waiting for a spring desktop. Currently use PS, InDesign, Blender, and hopefully Resolve soon. I really don’t go anywhere currently, but I thought it would be nice in case I did visit a friend or enter a LDR. Help please?

[@abdulhamidalbayya6570]

sir can you please make a video about M1 Pro vs M1 Pro Max for developers?, i think its a bit hard to understand the review from another videos, yours usually much more easier to understand and clearer. thank you sir

[@ReneRitchie]

I don’t think there’s enough for a whole video. The CPUs are the same. The extra video rendering engines wouldn’t make a difference. So it just depends if you need the extra GPU and ram. And that wouldn’t be specific to developers, just to the type of development work. Maybe the amount of simulators, but most likely if you’re doing a lot of modeling for games, If you need a ton of textures and other effects, especially on battery.

[@1nicholastarazi]

I am going with the 16 inch, but I am curious how well can 16 or 32 gb ram function. I have an i7 intel with 16 ram and it chokes now + I get the swirling rainbow wheel 1-4 times a day. Frustrating 4 sure. I have memory management software and turn off many programs only to find myself reopening the program 20-30 later. 💥💥🙏👍 PLEASE - thoughts from other pro’s.

[@noelsaw]

I am a UX designer and got the 16” M1 Pro with the base 16 gb RAM and spent extra $ for the 1 tb SSD. A month later, there are no problem with tons of Chrome tabs open, Slack, and Figma open with lots of docs. I had the Intel MBP 16” base and the fans drove me crazy.

[@1nicholastarazi]

I really appreciate your input and experience. Are you seeing any lag when you have all those tabs open and 6-10 programs running compared to the Intel whether the fan is on or not?

[@noelsaw]

No lag at all. I would get the same config a 2nd time.

[@noelsaw]

Check out this video where he benchmarks the 16 gb RAM model. It’s the 2nd machine he tests.

[@1nicholastarazi]

Kudos friend

[@hughhepker4897]

Hi Rene , Try Get an 16” M1 Max in South Africa 🇿🇦 been waiting since Nov 2 2021 was on a queue that didn’t workout after 80 days of waiting . I gave up now ordered a BTO Will be lucky to get it end of April 2022 as we are a Tier 3 country . So no clout so you gotta wait and wait by the time I get it Apple will already show off the 27” IMac M1 max 🤣🤣🤣how lovely … what’s the point ..,it’s like vapour ware these days for anyone who doesn’t live in the States or Canada 🇨🇦

[@Lacrom23]

If I would want to support 2 external displays, will M1 PRO be enough? And if I don't use 100% of my GPU, will M1 MAX battery empty that fast?

[@ReneRitchie]

Yes, they both support two external displays. And even if not every GPU Core is being thrashed, they all still draw some amount of power, so they'll hit the battery slightly harder even when idle

[@CapableFox64]

I have a 16" 32 GB M1 Pro. Perfect computer for me. I use 20ish GB somewhat normally for my highest use case. Gives me plenty of extra space. Thoughts on the M1 Max is that it's too much for what I do. Work bought me this one and will buy me a 64 GB model in the future if I really need that. Pros know what they need and can justify it for company expense if they need more. I run 2 computers - 1 is a PC with i9 and 64 GB ram that I throttle all the time. The other is this Mac. I love the Mac for everything light and local code based. Anything more expensive computationally still goes to intel in my workflow. The biggest limitation in the new arm processors is the exclusion of a thorough upgrade to arm module. Upgrading my IDE/programming engines was a pain and it's not automated yet (fortran compilation in arm is still tricky but possible). All this said, this computer is so much faster than my previous 15" intel pro. It was my workhorse and ran simulated annealing tasks (parallelized) at 3 sec/operation. Now I'm running at .1 sec/operation on identical data.

[@abdulhamidalbayya6570]

VERY PERFECT EXPLANATION

[@GPS379]

I bought M1 pro base model and its awesome

[@digitalclips]

Neither... I'm waiting for the iMac Pro and the Ultra 4 x M1 Max Pro :). I bought an M1 Mac mini purely to be able to test Apple Silicon for my needs and continue to work on a 64GB, 27" iMac i9 with an up-rated GPU until the new iMacs arrive. Once it does the Intel iMac will be used as a dual boot PC gaming and macOS photography machine in our snow-bird summer home up north.

[@FoxxFire]

"I am not going to not not say it also." Lol I love your plays on words, Rene, but my uncaffeinated brain is not ready for that one yet.

[@user-nj2wr1ji1p]

so what about the people that only play some games and surf the web would we need 16" max one ??

[@RealtyWebDesigners]

I agree with Renee the 16" Pro (not Max)

[@NYRfan4ever]

Awesome video

[@cheesun124]

Its basically going to be my desktop, so 16" Max for future proofing I hope.

[@rem9882]

Linus Tech Tips rivews results are similar to what your saying but just showing performance results and graphs in different applications

[@timothyknight7881]

“You do you,” done better than anyone else. Cheers.

[@jimtipton8888]

I went with the Max because I'm a Red Bull fan!

[@Oliriosounds]

ill get the 16, I still find it very portable. im always on car and only work in other people music studios and stufff

[@Water_Max]

I’ve recently ordered a 14 inch Mac Book Pro M1 Max because I don’t mind the size of the screen since I travel often but I’m also doing a computer related university course so I thought the M1 Max would still be useful for me

[@MoisesBowe]

I bought the 16” M1 Max 64gb RAM 2tb SSD ! I can’t wait for it to arrive!

[@fledgling5616]

$4299, damn

[@PraShaantHnkOfficial]

Man you are a life saver literally!!! I’m going with M1 Max Because of this man with Golden heart ❤️ Thank you 😊

[@scottstewart5784]

Will this version M1 Max value retention in five years likely be a higher percentage over the M1 Pro?

[@ReneRitchie]

Typically the highest specced models seem to hold their value the best but since these products are so new, it's tough to speculate. Future software and projects will be more demanding, though, so more is almost always better for future-proofing.

[@scottstewart5784]

@@ReneRitchie Makes sense. I'm making the point that SOME of the price difference between Pro and Max and 14/16 and 32/64 etc will come back to you in higher residual value (as a percentage and in raw$). To help those needing an excuse for their partners.

[@StefanUrkel]

​@@scottstewart5784 as a % of the total price paid that is lost in resale, perhaps they "hold their value" best in that sense, but in terms of absolute dollars lost, it seems more likely that base models would be advantageous there. if you never need/use the power/features for going all out on specs vs going with base model which may turn out serving you just fine, you not only likely lose more in absolute dollars upon resale but also lose due to opportunity cost of doing so vs what those extra funds could have been doing for you during the period of ownership of the laptop.

[@scottstewart5784]

@@StefanUrkel Using that logic, 80% of Pro or Max buyers are wasting money!

[@izio4408]

I got a 16 gb of ram. Just wasn't down to wait 2 months for my laptop and 32 ram is probably over kill eanyway

[@fledgling5616]

Same here.

[@PageMarker1]

I haven't bought a first gen product since the 5300C. Waiting on the M2.

[@jdavid2003]

When you’re spending that much $$, I think of the entry level as a small soft drink where you are paying the “entry fee” then the difference in cost from there is minimal when compared to the “entry cost” of $2K. For example looking strictly at CPU: the base 14” MacBook Pro: Small=$1999 8 core, 14 core GPU, 16GB RAM Medium=$2299. 10 core CPU, 16 core GPU, 16GB Ram Large=$2,899. 10 core CPU, 24 core GPU, 32GB Ram Extra Large=$3,099. 10 core CPU, 32 core GPU, 32GB Ram

[@BTSloan70]

I do video editing for my youtube channel and really could use much quicker rendering power so I have the money and will go with the 16" Max. Don't need portability, It's going to sit on my desk just like my Mac Mini is now. I feel the need for speed! Since I will be using to make money I will deduct it as an expense next year's taxes. Waiting to buy it after the first of the year for next years taxes.

[@seankenno7]

Another perfectly placed Ryan George shoutout

[@misterdragzon]

High Power Mode is like Track/Race Mode in a performance car.