Classic Porsche 911: Why You Should Buy Now In Spite of SKY HIGH Prices

[@Rennthusiast]

Convince me modern 911’s are more fun.

[@MrSWW]

991.2 Carrera T manual!

[@scottthompson5855]

I don’t think I can “air-cooled guy”. My ‘12 GTS Manual is visually a stunner...I find the aesthetics on exterior superior to 993 and 964. Steering, Braking, Acceleration, Sound (with sports exhaust), handling are simply better than air cooled in my opinion. Soul? Absolutely. But it is wasser-cooled. Ya, My air blows strong. My sunroof works. I don’t have oil leaks and maintenance issues that a 25 to 30 year old vehicle has. The non-gadget steering wheel, herringbone seat install with Porsche crest just look beautiful. My leather is not cracked, my carpet not tired, my speedo works. Ah, but the journey. Yup, I just turn the key and enjoy...All for $75k entry price. Vs. called Minnesota P-Car dealer to enquirer about a multi-owner 964 that was beautiful with some tasteful updates (Gorgeous after market rims/Three spoke momo Protepo (sp) wheel with airbag delete, Porsche Classic Blue Tooth radio)...Price for a 30+ year old 37k vehicle? SOLD for $95k...Get the %$#& outta here. You all enjoy your air-cooled. I’m good.

[@GarthGoldberg]

Four words for you: Air Conditioning That Works. I'm not having fun when I'm sweating.

[@GarthGoldberg]

@@scottthompson5855 I agree 100% I have owned two air-cooled: a 1980 911SC, and a 1987 Carrera 3.2. Put lots of miles on them. I've driven the 996 and now the 992. Also test driven the Boxster. (Also a good car). We have a 992 C2S manual on order. I'd never go back, and certainly not for a comparable dollar value. That's nuts. Why would anyone want airbag delete? That's also nuts.

[@davidsherley2652]

@@GarthGoldberg in fairness, AC does work appropriately on 964s & 993s (I own a ‘90 964).

[@kofiofosu9051]

Had a 997 years ago and saw a 912 put put beside me, and I fell in love. Several years ago I let the 997 go, and bought a 964 in spite of people telling me it wasn’t smart. Now some of those people want to buy it off me. Best decision ever.

[@Rennthusiast]

Yes the people who got into the 964 a few years back are smiling. Take it from someone who just bought one a couple of months ago.

[@Blrmkr]

Spot on with every point. Your final comments are the big takeaway. Enjoy the journey you have on this earth and leave with no big regrets. The air cooled cars just have a personality that cements a bond with the earlier days of Porsche.

[@oibal60]

I've a 1996 993 C2 iris blue metallic. Six speed manny tranny, LSD. Perfect running condition, no CEL or SAI issues, zero oil leaks, 64,000 miles. I've owned it for 15 years. I'm never selling it. I've had people wave me down, so to speak, at a red light, and say, matter of factly: "Name your price."

[@Rennthusiast]

Iris blue is one of my favorite colors. You’re a lucky dude. I would never sell it either. Congrats.

[@arjenboekema8063]

PORSCHE. I love the soul of the brand, the history of it, the racing pedigree, all the successes it has had in racing, it fit’s me, it’s where i recognize myself in. Each Porsche i have experienced gave me the same smile on my face in their own way. I think i could own each type and love it because of it’s specific characterisitcs. So i don’t need to comvince anybody what type of Porsche it’s best, it’s a personal opinion based on the type of car that unleashes the most emotion.

[@vindame]

I ordered my 993 when I was 42, with all the features that I wanted (including full leather interior). The car is worth more today than what I paid back in 1994. Ok, I did have a few expenses, but overall, this car was the best investment I ever made in a car. My kids urge me NOT to sell it, ever. And I won't. It's just a wonderful car.

[@Rennthusiast]

I agree with your kids. But if you ever do want to sell, let me know 😉

[@steveo85]

I was in college when the 993 was introduced and still vividly remember the first time I started one. The sound, smell of the leather, the ancient ergonomics but perfect driving setup, and envisioning the 12 quarts of oil circulating through the flat 6. Quite the experience. Don’t let yours get away. Hopefully in a few years I’ll be in the same financial situation with my first edition Cayenne S ;)

[@johnyoung1606]

how many miles do you have in it

[@vindame]

@@johnyoung1606 around 135.000 km. The car is stored in a garage in Switzerland. I drive it only occasionally but it is always a pleasure.

[@Nobody-dc8dp]

Yeah because they want it when you die lol

[@ricardocarrero442]

As I have learned, MINI, Porsche, and McLaren are the same kind of people just with different budgets. I have participated in Porsche and MINI events and I have worked for both brands. Both crowds are just as enthusiastic about their vehicles and everyone loves events and drives.

[@amac8487]

Same with Jeep wranglers

[@Solarship_Radical]

I’ve wanted one my whole life. I think it’s time to start getting serious before I never get one and regret it for the rest of my life. There’s just something so special about vintage 911s

[@Rennthusiast]

If you can find a way to make it work, you should definitely do it

[@melsilva9158]

Here I thought his most important reason was going to be "financial misery loves company". LOL

[@roccol5360]

Great video man! So true what you said about being in your 40’s, life is short and you need to experience all you can….keep up the content! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@gregwolfe540]

I agree with everything you are saying. NOTHING like an air-cooled Porsche. I have been through so many sports cars (new & old) and keep coming back to the older, more analog cars. I have an 87 BMW e30 with an M62 V8 swap, an 06 BMW M3 Competition with 29k miles, and a 94 Porsche 964 factory widebody that I drive 90% of the time. It is the slowest car I own, but by far the most rewarding. I will always have at least one air cooled.

[@claudiodiez55]

I bought a 1995 993 Polar Silver Coup with 42K Miles in 2014 before the Market went up, I can double My Money but have no desire to sell it. I never Dreamed I would ever own one.

[@Rennthusiast]

Same year and color I have. I couldn’t imagine selling it.

[@eddieajami007]

Plus the fact that every new car sold will be electric in the next 5-10 years, the mechanical sound of the engine, and exhaust, will be cherished for eternity!

[@claudiodiez55]

1% of cars in Europe are EV , They buy eco gas cars

[@Millsprinkles569]

Completely related to this video. Personally I'm a 997.1 Turbo guy haven't had a ticket or accident in many years, "knock on wood". I couldn't really care less about thing like original paint etc. This car is my daily driver, its about enjoying the car as long as God will bless me to do so.

[@arjenboekema8063]

PORSCHE. I love the soul of the brand, the history of it, the racing pedigree, all the successes it has had in racing, it fit’s me, it’s where i recognize myself in. Each Porsche i have experienced gave me the same smile on my face in their own way. I think i could own each type and love it because of it’s specific characterisitcs. So i don’t need to comvince anybody what type of Porsche it’s best, it’s a personal opinion based on the type of car that unleashes the most emotion.

[@whitefrog1974]

Hi, thanks for this GREAT overview of the air-cooled 911! I've previously owned 997.1 Carrera, 996GT3, 996GT3RS, went to Ferrari for a while, spent quite a bit of time on the track, etc. Now, I have a 964 Carrera C2 in my garrage, and guess what? Just driving up and down the twisty hills at 40 mph makes me grin all across my face EVERY TIME! It's not the speed, it's that RAW experience that the air-cooled Porsches gives us that makes them SOOO special. Unfortunately, with all the fancy electronic devices that modern cars (i.e. 997.2 gen onwards) have, that's hard to expect. Huge thumbs up to you from Japan👍.

[@Rennthusiast]

Thank you. Sounds like you and I see eye to eye on this. 🙌🏼

[@eduardoortegajr.6300]

I owned a 78 SC Targa for 11 years. I also have owned a 99 996 for 6 years. I had to sell the 78 SC 1 month ago. It was very hard to do. For my situation, the 996 is my daily driver and fit me more for the lifestyle, specially having the AC is a super hot place where I live. But I agree with your video 100%. Only truly loving these cars you can elevate yourself beyond the "Benefit to Cost" Ratio analysis. I was 41 when I got my 78 SC. Now I am 52. If I have the money, I will get another Luftakuhlt (probably wrongly spelled in German. Air cooled in English) car. I can careless what the market is or will do. Life is truly short brother.

[@RunnerArch]

All 7 are spot on. I am in the process of buying my first air cooled 96 993 C2 Polar Silver, black interior, 6 speed manual - 100% original with 105,000 miles. Thanks for the 7 reasons. I am looking forward to adding this car to my small collection of P-cars (986 Boxster S and 718 Spyder). No better place to have your money to enjoy.

[@EmmettF.W.]

I just recently got the bit by the Porsche bug and have been deep diving into all the research about 911s. This channel has definitely been a wonderful resource and greatly appreciated.

[@benbottomley1234]

This is your best video yet! It's about all seven things and maybe more. This is the essence of life. Passion, art, beauty, design, that perfect apex. And yes, the electronics and nanny systems are out of control. I don't own a Porsche but I admire and get them. I drive a BMW and it's quite a good fit because it doesn't have all the nanny crap of the newer cars. Also, I don't think Porsche prices are crazy, pricey but not crazy. The average car price is over $50,000. If you can pick up a clean 911 for around $75,000 this isn't insane. That $50,000 new car will loose value while the 911 will maintain or rise. Besides, it's not all about money it's about living life and passion.

[@hollywinsman9464]

I love analog. Your brother did the right thing by turning his "robot" back in early.

[@tockingwatches2377]

I’m hoping to pick up my first Porsche, a 1982 911SC this week! Thanks for making these videos. I live in Banner Elk, so hopefully I’ll get to know folks in the PCA community soon!

[@DonBMW]

Have always been a BMW guy and love my E46 M3. Have been looking at the 911 and these prices are astronomical. I think i'm going to wait for a recession and market correction. The sweet spot for me would be $60k. But at $250K and $499K, that's just madness!

[@tomrojas6459]

I have a 1988 930 Cab, and a 1997 993 Carrera S. I've had my 930 for 25 yrs, an my 993 for 17. Love them both!

[@trevormacdougall9385]

Another great video, Will. Thank you. I agree with all of your points. I wish we had a deeper community where I live. It is meaningful to connect with others around these cars. I also recently bought a 968, which is a different experience, but is still a really fun classic car to own. And, perhaps with the air cooled prices rising, we may see some demand pick up for these great transaxle cars. Anyway, thanks again. Would love to drive with you someday!

[@SAMMYJR00777]

What are u talking about lol most of transaxle porsches are already offff to the moon and they will only go up

[@trevormacdougall9385]

@@SAMMYJR00777 In relation to air cooled 911s, they are far more price accessible for most. That was my point.

[@James_Sovereign]

I feel my 996 Turbo is a nice compromise. Sure, many people hate the headlights, but I like them.

[@chris-sc]

Made the same choice. Bought 996TT sold 911SC. Air-cooled technology now getting rare and replacement parts / service knowledge scarce and expensive. Time to move on. 996TT is a brute, reliable, and the new sweet spot.

[@nydental]

993 is simply the best made for everyday use.

[@UmpireFred]

Have seen your video again and understood more about „what you said“; due to language barrier. The term „care taker“ sticks with me. After buying a 964 jubilee edition I started to realise this. Over the years my fleet grew with a 997 4S more or less as daily driver and a 996 roadster and the latest addition had to been a 356 speedster (replica due to the super high price of this one). Enjoy your Porsche days!

[@Rennthusiast]

Thanks for watching!

[@TxGerman]

I agree with you 100% on all points, ESPECIALLY #7! The Pcar community is so diverse and welcoming. Met many new friends at various events. I bought my first Porsche 911 last year (air cooled) and have since picked up a couple more modern Pcars, but nothing replaces the feeling of driving an old school, no-nanny manual. Driver and machine in an orchestrated dance through twisties.

[@chrismatthews2347]

Another great video, Will. Looking forward to the summary of the 964 expense. I think your transparency will be valuable info for new to the experience buyers. I think 10-20% of purchase price is accurate. I spent 15% out of the gate to get my 92 964 back to health. And other than adding some H&R sways, most of the $ was spent on deferred maintenance. And it still needs a weeping steering rack to be addressed. Misery likes a little company but I think your honesty will help best prepare a new buyer. Again, I always look forward to your next video.

[@Rennthusiast]

Thank you. I have discovered these vids do help the newcomer-to-air-cooled understand what really goes into the ownership experience. It’s totally worth it in terms of enjoyment but it’s not for people who spend their entire budget on the car only to be shocked it needs more $$$. One disappointing thing I’m seeing in this market is sellers who see an opportunity to cash in on bad cars…I hate to think about someone who knows nothing getting popped.

[@Ninedetails]

Hi Will. I would apply simple economics to your question, and use history as part of that. Globally countries have amounted a lot of debt through the pandemic, and much like the last recession, all the stimulus pumped in to the economy has to be paid back by tax payers. Not only does that give people a lot less disposable income, but naturally people lose jobs and businesses fail. It can take a little time to show its face, in the same way mortgage backed securities were an issue way before the catastrophic failure of the US housing market and banking stock. So right now the financial stimulus is masking a lot still and in fact some people have benefited artificially from business grants and loans used to buy cars, which also drove the market up. As I said, that all needs paying back in some form or another, so the economy will contract and cars and house price will ‘correct’ from the increases during the pandemic. I know my 964 is worth it’s peak right now, and I could sell it and buy better at the end of the year, but I won’t sell it as it’s a project. So buy with open eyes right now :)

[@gregs8685]

A very realistic viewpoint, as opposed to some others.

[@Rennthusiast]

All sound logic and you may be 100% correct. Time will tell and I’m not an economist. All of this boils down to being responsible. I’m not saying “go broke to buy an air cooled Porsche.” What I am saying is “life is short, if you can afford it, do it…because for true enthusiasts the ownership experience is worth it.” As I said in the beginning of the video, money isn’t always the most important thing, but basic financial planning is just prudent. Thanks for watching and for commenting 🙌🏼

[@lovetoride9646]

I agree with all seven points. Point one is my favourite - there is so much pleasure driving these cars at less than ridiculous speeds.

[@hallamring2036]

Thanks Will for the video. The comment about being a Care Taker is so true. I've only had my 993 a couple months but I understand this comment well. Congrats on 10k subscribers.

[@videoconcierge]

I agree w your brother on the BMW. I received a new 5 Series as a maintenance loaner, a while back. The Auto "Lane Correction" nearly scared the Hell out of me. LOL

[@wickedcitywoman]

Ya know, I’ve been fighting with myself over one of these for 3 weeks. I’m an admin assistant, 40-something (cough) and maybe I have no business buying this car but you’re right-life is short & IDC- I w a n t i t

[@Rennthusiast]

🙌🏼

[@wickedcitywoman]

Rennthusiast 😇

[@mikemcginty5973]

Buy it. 56 years old. Air-cooled 911 owner since I was 27. Had my 3.8 litre Carrera 2 with lowered suspension, RSR mufflers, close ratio box, Polar silver and full blue leather (including headline) for 22 of those 29 years of 911 ownership. #noregrets. Can‘t remember any bills, but remember every great drive!

[@markogsm5633]

Buy it man. I am 46 and recently bought Alfa from 67 just on blind call on the phone. Alfa was coming in boxes (buckets) nto my garage almoast 2 months....:)

[@DeadSkinMask32]

Love my 76 911S Targa. Been in the family since 81.

[@dougdicks6152]

I know what you mean by "caretaker". I dont mind giving her what she needs when she needs it.

[@davidsherley2652]

Another excellent video Will - very well thought out and presented! As I’ve moved across the country, I’ve been actively involved in three PCA clubs. As you say, it’s always the same - an accepting group of people, highly involved with their cars, who love to interact. The cars serve as a catalyst to interact with interesting folks you’d never come across otherwise. I love that I’ve been able to make my 964 uniquely my own, it offers a wonderful driving experience. But modifying one’s Porsche is a slippery slope - the costs add up very quickly. It’s also can be difficult to determine when is enough good enough. Although I completely agree in general that air cooled Porsches deliver a magical driving experience at lower speeds, certainly on the twisties that’s true. On the other hand, my 964 will be up to 100mph on a highway before I know it. Radar / laser detectors are a prudent investment.

[@Rennthusiast]

Amen to the radar detector. My 993 can hide higher freeway speeds as well. Literally just got back from blasting some backroads in my 993. So. Freaking. Fun.

[@zactastic4life]

Hey, thanks for the videos, really helpful in deciding which models to get into and overall showing the community is great. great tips for buying!

[@lawrencefilippelli323]

This is really spot on. I have an 85 Targa that I bought right 3 years ago and it has appreciated by about 40% of purchase price in three years. It's a nice example. And as a long time (27 years) BMW owner, I sadly agree with the modern feel of BMWs. That's why I have an 84 E30 too!! Can't beat the driver interaction of analog cars. Super video! Thanks!

[@Rennthusiast]

Thanks for watching. And yes, I also really enjoy the older BMW’s.

[@neilfisher7999]

Great video Will! All very valid points. I just got back from PCA Porsche Parade, and looking at all the displays of classic Porsches really makes me want one again. I drive an 09 Boxster which gives me a great deal of pleasure since I enjoy driving the back roads and doing driving tours. Like the older cars, it is not super fast, but is super fun on the twisty roads. I did have an 87 Targa once and I do miss that car. Right now it is just more feasible for me to have a car that doesn't require as much maintenance and upkeep. But hopefully down the road I can find another air cooled car again. I just hope that by then the prices aren't so ridiculous that I can't swing it.

[@Rennthusiast]

Nothing wrong with a boxster. I watched the “what’s your Porsche worth” video they did from the parade and they had an early Boxster they were talking about. I am glad they’re getting the respect they deserve. Don’t wait too long on air cooled though!

[@jamessimon2002]

I'm trying to save up for a 911. In the future I want to own a 930 turbo, 964 turbo, and a 993 turbo. That's my dream. I have never been able to drive porsche before.

[@Rennthusiast]

Visualize and execute and it will happen for you. Good luck!

[@steveo85]

Every time I see a video titled like this I think “Alright, another KZbinr is getting ready to put their air cooled 911 up for sale in a month or so.” 😂 I totally agree with the driving a slow car fast versus fast car slow concept. My old air cooled Ducati Supersport is more fun than my liquid cooled modern ones were and also the only vehicle that was more thrilling than my 3.2 Carrera. I’m never selling the Supersport.

[@Rennthusiast]

lol that’s fair but in my case I ain’t selling! 😆

[@brandonfloyd2061]

Wonderful videos! I have yet to become a Porsche owner but have driven many over the years. I've been obsessed with 911s since I was a kid and had a red 930 Turbo on my wall (as many boys did)! I have been thinking about what I eventually want to get. I agree 100% with you that the air cooled 911s have a connection to there owners that very few cars have. That may be the direction I take!

[@Rennthusiast]

Thanks for watching 🙏🏽

[@kriskalpa]

Thank you for the great video, am considering a white 993 cab atm.

[@VanaConn]

Totally can relate to some cars being too fast. I loved my controversial 996 /4 cabrio but I was a bit out of control with it sometimes. I have a CDL and drive 250k miles a year. I also didn’t love working on it. I’ve always owned air cooled VW’s so a air cooled 911 May just be in my future. Same with complexity of some cars. I had a basic bmw 330CI that didn’t have all the electronics. Enjoyed that car a lot.

[@brianbearden3791]

I got into the club for less than I thought I would! 1977 911 Turbo Flachbau conversion

[@markogsm5633]

U r so right about soul and presence of the classic 911...i am the owner of 928 and Alfa GT junior ( curently.in resto mode) but looking for G model....

[@rulez-sm9je]

Great video Will, I would subscribe every its point. I also had a 997 turbo, but it was too brutal. I traded it for a 964 (mods on intake and on catalyzer) and I enjoy every meter of this ride! Recently I added a 3.2 Targa and I am hardly waiting for the spring on curvy roads in Slovenia.

[@brooksm3552]

I've had new and old. There is no doubt that the new reach higher performance levels. But unless you spend a lot of time at the track you really can't use the car to anywhere near its limits unless you're crazy or have a death wish. A 993 or 962 are more usable by far.

[@thomasprince4113]

Very well done. Perfect presentation 🌶

[@blakesimmons2639]

Great video! I have been fascinated with the 993 and 964 for years! Hard to watch them go up so much in price but someday I will have one of each. Just waiting for the right opportunity!

[@Rennthusiast]

Thank you for watching 🙏🏽

[@Asifalirahman1]

I really enjoyed this video. I wanna buy a classic Porsche 911 in the next year or so. Let's see ...

[@bobbygfl]

Great video. Subed!

[@Rennthusiast]

Thanks! I’m almost at 10,000 subs so every new subscriber is huge for me. Love the name by the way. YOLO is my core philosophy.

[@Knowledgedad]

Thanks you made me want to search for my first 911

[@Rennthusiast]

You’re welcome. Good luck!

[@A_Treat]

A few things - The haters that gave you grief about selling your 'too fast' car either don't have the brains to understand what that means, or are just jealous - F them! I regret selling my 964 and wish I hadn't every time I think about it. Yes, prices are high, but if you have a passion for anything, then price really doesn't matter. The classic 911 culture (Yes, different from Porsche culture) is great, a little single minded, but you will find others that share your passion ;)

[@busalmanalsubaie4276]

My dream car 🥺👌🏻

[@TeamPavlik]

Old 911’s have character.

[@GeorgesMiniatureCars]

I love Porsches, always have! Definitely a dream car to get when I can afford one!! Just subbed.

[@Rennthusiast]

Thanks for subscribing!

[@samdelcioppo586]

I've watched a few of your videos and I can see you are really deep into your love of later models of the Aircooled 911's as am I, but in your urging people to get in now I feel that many cars that are being offered up for sale today at these prices are financial ticking time bombs, having had restored a 67S some years ago to absolutely new condition and after buying a 84 M491 that I knew needed what I thought would only be a paint job and some interior work I think I can say that unlike buying certain types of classic cars Porsche owners like to really get out and drive their cars and that means keeping them in tip top shape, the biggest problem is everyone thinks paying for a PPI will save you from thousands of dollars of repair work but the sad truth is many Times it dosen't (unfortunately I can attest to that) buying any 20 to 40 year old high proformance sports car and not thinking that your not singing up for thousands of dollars of maintenance and replacement of worn parts costs is either being very naive or just being plain stupid, buying cars today is so much different then it was twenty years ago, people are buying cars that they can't personally inspect and you can't take to a mechanic you know and trust, things happen to cars that are driven hard and parts wear out faster on a car that's driven hard, I'm not trying to scare anyone away from buying a classic aircooled Porsche just do the research and know what it's really going to cost before you jump in,

[@Rennthusiast]

Yes yes yes! Set aside up to 30% of what you pay for an air cooled 911 for preventative maintenance, deferred repairs and mods.

[@horologie]

I love this video, but man, prices have gotten to be absolutely unreachable for even successful people. I had the chance to buy a 1997 C4S with 14k miles for 115k in 2020... that same car is worth over 200k now. I wish I would've bought that car when I had the chance, but I can't dwell on the past. I might have to look at other generations as the air cooled market is not for enthusiasts anymore... that's an investors market.

[@Rennthusiast]

I agree. The values definitely are a cause for pause. But I say just up the stated value insurance and roll on.

[@jasper-en-Jannick]

Just bought a 993 cabriolet 🥰

[@gregs8685]

I love the validation for overpaying for a 911. Yes, paying 2x last year’s prices in an obvious bubble is called overpaying. If you’re ok with that it’s your business. Just don’t pretend you didn’t overpay.

[@Rennthusiast]

No argument with your point from me but I would be curious to see a couple of auction results supporting 2x price increase compared to 12 months ago. They’ve gone up without question. However, I haven’t seen that kind of increase but maybe I’m missing something. Have any links to share?

[@Gms964]

@@Rennthusiast 2 quick examples from Bring A Trailer; a C2S with 73k miles just sold (7/19/21) for $142k. A 70k mile C4S sold for $70k on 4/14/20. An 82k mi C2 sold on 4/9/21 for $78k, a 90k C2 sold for $42k on 5/11/20. I am not saying every car has doubled but many have.

[@Rennthusiast]

@@Gms964 yes but sometimes it seems like there’s no rhyme or reason. I believe it boils down to right bidders, right time.

[@ghowells5433]

I have a 991.2 gt3, Macan 2020 GTS and a fully restored 911 sc from 1982. The sc is great fun for a nice country drive a tactile experience that needs real driver input, great car with real character. The gt3, is a stunning ultra fast road / track car, that’s so special. The Macan a great all rounder

[@Rennthusiast]

GT3 is without a doubt an amazing piece of engineering. I had the pleasure of driving a brand new one as well as an RS recently. Great cars but I would get myself in trouble. Maybe I’m just not mature enough to own one 😄

[@ghowells5433]

You are right they are very easy to go very fast in. I wanted the first drive in an air cooled 911 to be my own so the SC was my first experience after years of water cooled 911’s. It did not disappoint and have watched all your videos before purchasing one a month or so ago, so thanks for all the guidance.

[@jameshollingsworth2821]

Great video and content on your channel. New sub here but have learned a lot from your perspectives. Keep up the good work!

[@berponteberponte3231]

right on point!!!!!Guru style counseling!!!!

[@mohamadjamil3164]

Had a 964 for 3 years. Was a money pit. The car does not drive well, ac does not work, engine cooks itself and the cars leak as if there are no seals. They are the most beautiful to look at and hell to maintain

[@dtb9939]

That will apply to any 20+ yr old car with deferred maintenance, questionable history, etc

[@Rennthusiast]

Once sorted, these cars are quite reliable, at least in my experience. Getting them there can be painful, though.

[@Voncid]

I liked your air cooled 911 channel. please put out more info. videos. I love racing so all my 911s have been race oriented. So far I've done two a 73 "T" to RSR, 77 Targa to track day car. My present 911 is the most beautiful 95 993 cup car in black on black. wish you had an email address to send pictures to. If want the real thrill of early 911 spend a day at autocross/track day sometime. Hope you will join us some time for a day of competition. The enjoyment of the car never goes away.

[@poodmookie8549]

It's easy to play with and enjoy high end cars when you have a lot of cash flow (you obviously do). A yacht and a super model girlfriend would be an awfully lot of fun too. Most Americans sadly will never know what that feels like.

[@Rennthusiast]

I have set goals in my life and pursued them relentlessly. Overcame much adversity and tapped into people who had found success before and then listened closely to them. Anyone can find success…just need to take the actions and be accountable for results.

[@ericmed]

Noticed getting far more comments on my 991 6+ years in than new. Seems like the new ones are less approachable or pompous. And still not even close to the attention of air cooled..

[@soloweed]

Just bought a 993, thanks to your videos, love the car.

[@Rennthusiast]

You’ll like my next vid then. My 5 (or 6) favorite 993 mods I’ve done.

[@slinky702]

I love your passion. U got a new subscriber

[@odellproperties]

I love to join the NC road trip with y’all. Can you share the details of that event? Thanks!

[@guysubmarinerguy9387]

100% truth video. Excellent work! Almost zero interest from banks these days so why not have fun with your money and you never know you may even make a little on your “investment”👏🏻

[@gregs8685]

Yes but money sitting in the bank does not require sales tax, property taxes, registration, insurance, maintenance, repairs, and storage. And it is liquid. People who just paid $80k for a G50 Carrera or a 993 are not going to be making money, especially factoring in the above costs, unless they sell before the bubble pops. IMO of course.

[@Rennthusiast]

I bought my 964 at the top, and no doubt I will lose money if I sell…but the plan is to keep it so not too worried. Another way of looking at this is the percentage of money lost off of the total cost is basically what you pay for the experience. Some pay for travel, services, golf or whatever…I choose to pay money to own and enjoy these cars.

[@guysubmarinerguy9387]

All points are valid but as you get older the enjoyment of purchasing that dream car get less with each passing decades so if you get chance…just do it!😉

[@LeeH-Ranger83]

$140-150k TOO MUCH to pay for a ‘97 993 with 33k miles? It’s Red with tan interior. I have NOT viewed the car but wanted to get some initial thoughts from this group. TIA!

[@tabblakely4987]

Fun facts 👍 Nice Video.

[@chriscarbaugh3936]

Prices seem to have “corrected” to a point. At least they seem slightly cheaper on this side of the pond; I moved to the UK from the states a few years ago. Mind I do NOT believe they are as well maintained. Folks here stick to a recommended service plan / interval rather than “over” maintaining as we do in the states. Ask about oil analysis and you merely get a blank look. Also cars tend to have been a daily driver at some point and well used; so the tin worm is an issue. The question should I have my boosted 930 prior to moving here? … I dearly miss her! Managed to hang onto the Longhood! 👍

[@jayaychare7318]

964 are crazy prices and the 993 is still looking like it hasn’t blown up yet. I blame singer ! I’m looking at selling the rs6 for a 993

[@Rennthusiast]

993's are jumping up also

[@maxalwaysgoesbyboat7715]

all car ever made have been made...new money will come , new cars wont...if you own a porsche in any capacity...well done!

[@vancityflyguy]

awesome cars! thanks for sharing them!

[@landonbarretto4933]

My first brand new 911 was an '88. Cost me $50 thousand. That car today is $100 thousand at least and it's a bad ass. I just ordered a 2022 911 - all in it's close to $200 thousand. I also had a turbo once which is not a good use of money because you can't drive it the way's it's intended to be driven. I got a ticket 5 minutes after I drove it off the dealership.

[@Rennthusiast]

Regarding the turbo point you make: you might appreciate this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJmnqpmtnriHa9U

[@landonbarretto4933]

@@Rennthusiast - dude - I watched that video. You got it - too fast and moves up on other cars too quick. Regular 911s are fast enough. You and I could probably compare how many tickets we've had over the years. I was pulled over twice in a week in my Cayenne and both times I was let go without a ticket because the 2nd cop told me if he gave me a ticket I'd get my license suspended from all the other tickets I'd gotten. And you know, driving at 80 or 100 miles an hours in a 911 feels like you're standing still. Shit. In all fairness to me, a lot of cops see me in one of my red Porsches and assume I'm speeding.

[@Rennthusiast]

Radar detector is a great friend of mine. I had to do a 12 hour class with test the last ticket I had. I *might* have had enough time go by that I could get away with another one without serious consequences but I can’t stand the thought of sitting through another long course. Either way, I’m just not responsible enough to have a stupid fast GT3 or turbo. Too tempting to tap that gas and get to 120 instantly.

[@landonbarretto4933]

@@Rennthusiast - I'd probably get caught with a radar detector 😂

[@Rennthusiast]

You were the kid who always got caught growing up, huh? Haha

[@gregbattaglia9121]

Nice Job !!

[@waqarghulam3548]

997 turbo , turbo s, gt3, rs etc are the best investment

[@Rennthusiast]

Perhaps but air cooled can be good too

[@formulasaltythunder4806]

If I can only make my garage look like that. Nice vid bro.

[@jekutube9]

Garage 🤔, I thought that was his living room!

[@713vinh]

I own a 997.2 and I do get the visceral experience out of it even though it's considered a modern 911. The 997.2 to me brings you the best of both world and the reliability and low maintenance cost that my car possess makes it a no brainer.

[@Rennthusiast]

The .2 is a good car. The motor needs a good exhaust in my view but outside of that the reliability is there and it doesn’t have the usual fatal flaw that so many of them have.

[@thedudeabides1443]

Good video and points well made but it’s not possible to look past the current sky high price of these cars. We are in the very definition of a bubble right now and it WILL correct itself. When that happens, who knows but it WILL happen. I am happy to be patient for now.

[@Rennthusiast]

Maybe. Maybe not. We will see.

[@roninsc]

Another great video!

[@genesmith4019]

The PORSCHE '69S long hood 911 has so many unique engineering advantages it is in a class by itself. What other classic 911s have factory supplied sodium filled exhaust valves? Lightweight Magnesium engine and transmission cases? Lightweight flywheel and copper plated pressure plate for heat transfer? The HP rating is 190- not the lesser number sometimes published. 190 HP/6800 RPM, around 2000 Lbs, and 2 Liters. That's a recipe for fantastic driving. What 1969 2 Liter car could run with this? Not one under Ten Grand 1969 dollars... Remember what was out there then? Triumphs? MGs? Fiats? Alfas BMWs? 9.9-1 CR wouldn't be be seen again for a long time. And while displacement kept creeping up to try and compensate. It never did. It would be a very long time 'till Stuttgart again matched that power to weight ratio for a "pick a color and drive it out the dealership" car. The ’69 911S was first year for 250 PSI Bosch Mechanical Fuel Injection, first year for longer wheelbase (note PORSCHE never went back to the shorter wheelbase) “S” alloy disk brake calipers and ventilated disks. “S” gauges. “S” oil cooler and cooler lines protected and hidden in rocker panel. “S “ high lift and duration camshafts. FUCHS Forged alloy wheels. When that 2 liter whines past 4500 to 7300 it is heavenly. The 1970 world champion 911S rests on the shoulders of the '69 giant killer. Some folks say the 'E' is faster... Some say the 912 handles better... Did the Factory park the "S" and race either instead? Not that I'm aware of. HaHa. SURE- would I trade my S for an E or 912? Not for a dozen. I wouldn't trade my '69 for any other car. Slower traffic please Keep Right!

[@Rennthusiast]

Love this write up. Thanks for commenting!

[@genesmith4019]

@@Rennthusiast My pleasure. You may like this- kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn7ElYyPaq-Eo6M

[@lazyrider6918]

Love the older 911s over modern ones. But if you want the same kind of analog PURE driving experience, get an s2000. Cheaper, more reliable and just as pleasing to drive.

[@Rennthusiast]

I had an AP2 S2000 for awhile. I definitely agree they are fun. Gorgeous too. Loved the handling but found it to be underpowered. The high revs were interesting but felt like it was a lot of noise without corresponding excitement. GREAT mountain road car for sure.

[@jeffryrosen3438]

Another great video. You are a bad influence my friend 🤣

[@Rennthusiast]

🙌🏼😂

[@panthepchamrasromran1033]

I am running a 997.1 Targa 4S

[@jeffreyb.1657]

Had a 993..then a 996 gt2....got tired of the porsche tax and hidden quality issues and costs.... And the way you are percieved. It is not as bad as a BMW but close. Good video quality but do realize that these are just things.... I drive a JDM car now....far more reliable and inexpensive. And it is nice flying under the radar. My whole engine replaced is less than a 993 top end rebuild....and in theory can be done same day. 400hp...think about it.

[@Rennthusiast]

Cool cars and I’m not gonna knock what you’re saying but I just really enjoy the overall experience these cars provide. And yes; they are only things and it’s important to check motives when acquiring things. It’s about making sure to identity whether it’s an intrinsic enjoyment or something that provides external validation. Thankfully I just love the experience of these cars but don’t substitute them for what really matters in life 👍🏼

[@kickazzz2000]

I’ve noticed cabs dropping a bit. I’ve always wanted the Coupe but may have to settle for a cab…coupes just aren’t coming back to earth

[@Rennthusiast]

I would wait until I could pick up a coupe. Don’t settle. You’ll regret it.

[@dukebadboy]

993 Porsche is the sweet spot.

[@alexrodriguez40]

New subscriber achieved.

[@tkerkhoffdus]

Hey, you made the 10k! Congrats from Germany (993 C4 1996)

[@ryanriley181]

Great points!

[@Sethddad]

Hi Will, Is this video taken in your garage? Very cool

[@colink33]

Enjoyed the video and gives a good insight I cant help noticing a colour difference between your silver 993 cars front wing and door

[@Rennthusiast]

Thanks for watching 🙏🏽 The 993 has had a respray at some point I believe. No matter to me…it’s a driver. Original paint isn’t as important to me as a straight body and no accident history, which it has. You can’t see the color differences with the naked eye though. Camera does strange things with silver and how light interacts with it. The front bumper also looks off on camera in certain angles but thankfully it’s not noticeable 99% of the time in person.

[@colink33]

@@Rennthusiast thanks for the reply great for quick interaction with viewers I appreciate your comments on the colour and bodywork and history of the car but to me it deserves matching paint with such a fantastic trio of cars It would drive me nuts even though I would not see it much if I was driving it Enjoy your content and this was not a cheap dig at you

[@Rennthusiast]

Oh no worries…no offense taken. Thanks for watching 🙏🏽

[@toddadale]

Great list - I agree 100%

[@gaffle-411]

If it doesn’t have a manual transmission, dismiss it… The classic units must be driven though. Those rubber components dry-rot if you let it sit.

[@chrisnash7903]

Great video, thanks for putting together. For a first time Porsche owner who is only interested in the 993, what would you say is the AVERAGE cost of ownership annually, just to have a general number baked into the purchase that you know you're going to spend, more or less?

[@Rennthusiast]

Tough question. I did a video about some of the cost of repairs. It’s an oldie but goodie. Forgive the video quality but maybe it has some useful info. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bX_Je5t4bdythZY