Rented house Pt1- Bodged front door turned around & fire doors

This is just work, more like a Vlog, a rental house that I've been working on, minimal money & time to be spent, very badly fitted front door to be turned around, 2 fire doors fitted & a new cheap kitchen,
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[@goatsears]

You can't polish a turd but you can roll it in glitter and that's exactly what you have done. Good job !

[@Gidjoiner]

Yep 😂 Thanks 👍

[@beckjumper5787]

I’m just happy because you seem to teach me your problem solving abilities and that’s what makes a good joiner. Thank you

[@Gidjoiner]

Good, sometimes it's not easy explaining what I'm trying to achieve when sometimes I'm working on instinct/experience myself, I'm glad you like them n find them educational, Thanks Beck 👍

[@bigbazz1993]

These sorts of videos are why I like KZbin, the little tricks that I would never have thought about. Great job fixing the mess.

[@Gidjoiner]

Yeah, that's what i try to show, 36yrs of experience,😉 , a lot of other channels either don't know or don't share, without being too bitchy i suspect the former 😀 Thanks Mr Anderson 👍

[@paulwhitting4953]

I don’t know what you’re charging these people, but it certainly isn’t enough. 😃 These maintenance & alteration job vids are the best. This is what we want to see. Keep ‘em coming. 👍👍👍

[@Gidjoiner]

😂 I got paid ok on this but it's not always the case, I'll keep posting Thanks Paul, 👍

[@ChronoVersatur]

Impressive how you sorted that front door mess. Not only turned the door around but the job as well.

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks 👍 I did what i could to polish this with the limited effort requested of me 😉

[@jamesosullivan6722]

🤣🤣 that's probably why i love your channel, your very down to earth, no poncy airs and graces, your smoothing plane says it all. You've managed to polish a turd there my friend, good work.

[@Gidjoiner]

😁 Thanks James 👍 It's been with me a long time that plane, it's had a lot of use n works as good as the polished ones on other channels 😉

[@ask234b]

the best educational videos on youtube thanks again Gid

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks , 👍 😊

[@psymon25]

best channel around thanks Gid and absolutely love the explanation of the door 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Gidjoiner]

👍😂😁🤣 Thanks psymon 👍

[@paulwhitting4953]

Love what you’re going. This is real work. Making a silk purse from a soa ear.

[@paulwhitting4953]

Sows ear. Anyone can do workshop stuff, but site work is the real world & that’s when it’s really difficult to do a quality job. 👍👍

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Paul 👍 yeah it looked ok in the end but it did take the whole of my 35yrs experience n it seems every tool i have to fix this shit,

[@simdog635]

and like magic, we get 3 in a row, thanks Gid good job with the doors

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks steve 👍 yep all 3, I hate waiting for 'part2' or 'comin up next week' 😂

[@Lyndalewinder]

Great to see you back with yet another fantastic video Gid. Its great to see how you put right the errors of others and make something eminently presentable out of a compete disaster. Looking forward to the next two in the series!

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Andrew 👍 I posted them all at the same time, I hate waiting for 'part2' or 'comin up next week' 😂

[@fredjrodgers]

Brought back memories to me, I did a lot of refurbishing in my day, shit work but it paid the bills. Good job mate

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Fred 👍 yep work is work 😉

[@tc3rs4]

I love you gid. By far the best tuber in the scene

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Harry 👍

[@powderpuff1964]

very good job

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Colin 👍

[@brianoneill350]

Great video really instructive. Many thanks

[@Gidjoiner]

Good 😉👍Thanks 👍

[@oldschoolengineer58]

Welcome back Gid, Great video, you saved the customer a good wedge of cash re fitting that front door. it initially looked a lost cause, nice save. The taper on the planner was good thinking gluing a strip of sacrificial wood to give the required angle, very neat. i always use hinge tite screws as the ones that sometimes come with door packs a crap.

[@Gidjoiner]

🙋‍♂️Hi, I sometimes use the thicknesser but this method is quicker if absolute accuracy isn't necessary , The screws on these fire hinges are normally stainless so a little harder but not with this pack 🤷‍♂️ Thanks Roy, yep it turned out ok in the end 👍

[@darwill7834]

Made my Sunday evening even better and love it's just normal stuff. The door was a right mess but you did a great job with what you had to work with . Did laugh tho when u said using those worktop joiners was a step to far as I do work for a property company and they want things done cheap and quick but I can't lower myself to fit the filth collecters which is what they do collect crap anyway great job and thanks for the vids mate appreciate all your efforts 🖒

[@Gidjoiner]

Yep, normal stuff, the door worked out ok in the end 👍 n yeah those jointing strips are crap n collect water helping rot the cut end of the top so unless they're willing to replace the worktop each yr... Yep couldn't stoop to that level, Good glad you like them, 😉 Thanks alf 👍

[@robertwright4491]

Haha! " complete bollocks" shambles of a job whoever did that before. Been watching a few of your videos and liked the porch build. Us joiners know how to improvise when we dont have tools to hand so fair play! 👍

[@Gidjoiner]

👍😬 That door was a mess 🤷‍♂️ Thanks yeah if i had every tool I'd need a bigger van & a bigger overdraft, when i started, working on site i had a tool box, a level & a bag with a few basic powertools in, you had to manage with what you had 😉 Thanks 👍

[@musakavalci9470]

Watched a good few of your vids now. Love the way you problem solve and explanations are. Great stuff and good luck

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Musa 👍

[@paulmcgeoch2603]

Hello Gid,just made my night getting a notification 👍🏼😎

[@Gidjoiner]

Hi, 🙋‍♂️. Good, 👍 I went to bed after uploading,

[@dansmith1100]

I've got to do some fire doors in my house. I never thought of trimming the linings back to take the thicker door. That brilliant as I didnt really want to replace linings again as I've done all the rooms leading to the landing

[@Gidjoiner]

👍 Yep, i didn't explain but i just screwed on a straight piece of ply, OSB in this case, 😉

[@worldadventureman]

Genius! To hell with messing with screws and nails to fix my doors in, I'm just going to foam spray fix them in. :)

[@Gidjoiner]

😂yep sprayfoam'll do 🙃🤷‍♂️ Thanks 👍

[@jabaralanzi9849]

👍👍👍👌❤️welcome come back

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks jabar 👍

[@kevinbenstock8116]

another great vid gid, not everything is straight forward but you always get round any problems, it gives me inspiration to try even the shit jobs i dont want to do. l look forward to your next project mate..........brill as usual...!!!

[@Gidjoiner]

👍 Yep crap jobs sometimes but a little part of me relishes the challenge to sort this bodge out n work is work, Building a pine hall bench storage thing this week, need to tidy my shed first so not sure if that'll get posted next weekend. we'll see Thanks kevin 👍

[@sweenep86]

that fooking door had me in stitches, what the hell was they thinking !

[@Gidjoiner]

👍🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤣

[@Madmax-iy8fi]

Hi mate,I have to do these type of jobs all the time and the thing I find hardest and most annoying is trying to get the customer to actually pay out money for decent materials

[@Gidjoiner]

Hi, yeah it's hard enough doing cheap work but using the cheapest materials as well makes it worse, luckily the kitchen was fairly good & cheaper than the B&Q n IKEA shite & the front door needed little spending on it, This Landlord i work for on their house n get paid ok, some landlords in the past have been dickheads but none of them want to spend money on their properties,

[@Rickblues46]

Great vid fella ... you know your stuff ... not overly fussy but a workman like attitude and professional pride ...still with the “ let’s just get it done attitude which makes for great value and earns a crust ... Happy days all round 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Rick, 👍 I have some of this saved so sorry it's long & for the copy n paste 😉👍 - In my mind i want it to be perfect, but i've learnt there's a balance between getting it done & doing a decent job. I've seen people fannying around on a piece that should've only taken a sort while, those people don't last long & quite often don't do a good job in the end anyway 🤔. At school i did metalwork & tech drawing, I wanted to be an engineer but my Maths let me down in aptitude tests for jobs so i went for a joiners job n haven't looked back, that was 36yrs ago, I did my apprenticeship at a joiners, we did both onsite & workshop/bench hand, all kinds of joinery, making stuff to go to site then going & fitting it, sometimes just working on site, sometimes the opposite just working in the shop, good old fashioned joiners that was well equipped with big Wadkin type machines, after 5yrs i was made redundant, I then worked through the agencies for a couple of yrs n did everything, mainly on site stuff, the good & the bad, after a while i got to know some good firms fitting pubs, shops & offices... they'd sub me in when they needed extra hands, doing that sort of work you have to be able to turn up on site & do anything they ask, joinery related, so it was a steep learning curve at the beginning but it did me good, with the good firms I'd got to know i dropped the agencies n i was able to pick n choose a bit n just do the good stuff, just make a call or 2 if needed & was never out of work, 😊 I think looking back being made redundant was good for me, sometimes working for the same firm people can get institutionalised, only learning one way of doing things n not learning that there may be a better or easier way or even if they're doing it wrong, I got to work with many many different people & a wide variety of jobs 👍👍 Just one for instance was hanging 750 doors on a student housing complex in the mid 1990s, 6 of us hung those over a few wks, I don't have to give much thought about how to hang a door now 😂 I've been working for myself for 20yrs, never advertised & i've always got work 😊 most of my vids are of my work, filmed with my phone because my work always has priority over filming but I try to share as many of the tips n tricks I've learnt over the yrs, the jobs are discussed with the clients reg all different designs & different options of materials but in the end it's their decision/choice & how much they're prepared to spend, I have to get these jobs done within time n budget so things aren't always perfect, i stick to my orig agreed quote providing they don't change anything so it's in my interest to crack on with the job but i don't rush a job n bodge it just to get the job done within time, I'd prefer to take that little longer n do a decent job, occasionally there's vids of me playing with my welder & i was trying to keep my van going for as long as i can, it's my 4th transit & i was sick of throwing them away because of rust, car bodywork, it's just joinery wi metal init 😏 but this one's just died because of rust, again! 😒 it's too far gone for me to fix, I make my vids how i would prefer to see/watch a vid, they don't have a long pointless intro, no bull, i don't stand n front of the camera waffling about unrelated crap, it's eyes on the job pretty much start to finish, i try to fit as many of the steps i take building something into the videos & there's no promotion crap at the end, I also don't mind showing any mistakes or hurdles, getting over them is sometimes key to being able to get a job done & ya also learn from mistakes 👍

[@mikeclewlow6510]

Looks like the desirable place called Armley

[@Gidjoiner]

Yep just down from the nick, 😇

[@l1verm0m]

Another good one Gid... complete bollo##s in the first 2 minutes made me laugh out loud and made my day

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Mike 👍 The only suitable words for this mess 😂

[@darrenpaulgreen]

Not the most glamorous work, but pays the bills. What's the router bit yo use for the hinge rebates?

[@Gidjoiner]

Yep, work's work 👍 The cutter I normally use i've had for yrs n still works well, It's not the one i used in this set of videos, I think it's this one www.axminster.co.uk/axcaliber-milling-cutter-with-top-bearing-952561

[@109cheekymonkey]

I hate rectifying cowboy work gid. Fair play to you

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Brian 👍 yep, but works work n sometimes it's taking the rough with the smooth, Later this week I'm making a Pine hallway bench here at home n got a couple of alcove units in nice houses coming up 😉

[@stevestarkey5293]

Was making rebates deeper in student accommodation made me quit working for my old firm and go self employed was so many nails in way of router by boss said chisel em deeper lol

[@Gidjoiner]

😂 yep you did right but work is work, that's what killed that router bit, paint n nails,

[@sicpac66t]

Wow that front door was atrocious. Good save.

[@Gidjoiner]

Yeah it was a complete mess, Thanks 👍

[@TheMatthew93mt]

Hi gid, can you remember what wood you used for the lipping? I’m working in an older property. The rebates are 35mm so I managed to find a 35mm fire door that is 2’8 by 6’8 however the opening is 2’9 so I will need to as you have done in your Video add 1/2 inch lipping either side. Thanks for your time.

[@Gidjoiner]

You're welcome 👍 Unless i made them It was an off the shelf lipping from /Milford's, Huws Gray they call themselves now, I think these lipping are only about 10mm thick, might be able to get them from other merchants. You could maybe reduce the opening by adding wood & a new stop bead?

[@TheMatthew93mt]

@@Gidjoiner Thanks for the info. I think time wise adding thicker lipping would be more efficient. My only worry is whether removing the old lipping and replacing it will compromise the fire certification. Maybe I’ll give the fire safety officer a call to be on the safe side.

[@Gidjoiner]

Fire doors regularly get cut to size & re-lipped so i wouldn't worry about that, you can buy fire door blanks that are unlipped, that's why they sell the lippings, there's so many details that wouldn't pass the test when putting fire doors in an older house, if you check ½hr fire door specs & check the depth of the rebate it'll be nowhere near deep enough in the old frames in that house, the position of firedoors & the direction they open, how close they are to staircases.. every job i do on rented houses putting firedoors in, they go into the old frames, fire/building reg people know it's just impractical to replace the frames, so there's always a bit of compromise, re-lipping doors normally states that the lipping should be hardwood, .. but yeah if it's poss spk to the man ,

[@oldschoolengineer58]

i came across metal doors opening outwards on some maisonette type apartments 4 stories blocks, whilst doing the electricity disconnections prior to demolition. they had about six bolts on the inside. the previous occupants were drug dealers. so the police would take for ever to take out the door. wonder if your previous occupants might have been dealers?

[@Gidjoiner]

😂 maybe, this is a new owner/landlord n there was a string of bad previous tenants, the neighbour def smokes weed n it's just down the road from the nick 😎😂

[@tomnikesb]

Hello gid, what timber did you use to re-edge the lippings on the firedoor? I work for a housing association and this is the kind of work on a daily basis. Nothing spectacular but pays the bills and my tools ;)

[@Gidjoiner]

I think they use Sepele, It's been 20yrs since i worked for a firm but I think the main point is it has to be hardwood, I used what i had which was Beech, If there's to be an inspector check with them.

[@SuperTannoy]

Wow you had your work cut out with that one, great job though, Do Fire Doors not need to have a 1" rebate ?

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Brian, public & private have different rules & existing structures as in these frames compared to new build have different rules too, the inspectors/rule makers understand that ripping out in some case nice moulded frames just isn't practical so allowances are made, but i did say in the vid that if i need to i did allow for a deeper rebate to be created by fitting a latch with a deeper back step. I don't think it's 1" tho, ½hr fire door casings are only about ½".

[@SuperTannoy]

Thank you for your reply Gid, much appreciated, I do remember the comment about the latch, after 15 years retirement from the building trade, I still like to watch good tradesmen. and you're one of them.👍🏻👍🏻.

[@paulwhitting4953]

Did you make the stainless weather mould or is that something you can buy off the shelf? 🤔

[@Gidjoiner]

Hi Paul, no a local sheet metal firm cut & bent it for me £25 for both pieces, in retrospect the one on the front the weathermould one could have been a little narrower but.... 😉

[@paulwhitting4953]

Quality solution. 👍👍

[@Gidjoiner]

👍👍

[@allanstephenson3083]

How do Gid, who do you use for your doors ? Have you tried Don at Metco 2000 ? Just off Dewsbury Rd. Great bloke. LS11 5LP

[@Gidjoiner]

I quite often fit the doors people have asked for so they've already done the research, these came from Milfords where i get a small discount but I'll keep Don at Metco 2000 in mind Thanks,

[@paulmcgeoch2603]

Who hung that door?Stevie wonder? 😂😂😂

[@Gidjoiner]

😂 Yeah him n Ray Charles 😎

[@physicsguybrian]

My guess is that either Stevie or Ray would have hung it better than the first character who tried!!! Seriously that was a horrific install attempt. Excellent save on the spin!

[@balke7935]

only 80mm play 😂 jesus

[@Gidjoiner]

I'd have to watch this again?, I'll have a look when home later

[@balke7935]

Just made me laugh how wrong that door was! They absolutely butchered that

[@Gidjoiner]

Yeah it was wrong in so many ways 🤪

[@johncole9964]

bet you don't like those jobs, "just make it cheap". Looks like you need to spend ten bob at a car boot sale and buy a new plane. :)

[@Gidjoiner]

Swings n roundabouts on jobs like this, often you're trying to make good with minimal spend yrs of bodging, on this kitchen i could gut it n fit a new one, this front door was a task i felt i needed to rectify but still within a given time n budget, & off course the door had to come off n go back on within the day to make it secure, Yeah it's hard to do cheap work, you try to do it quick but like the worktop joint i could've just bought a metal jointing strip but there's a limit to how low to go. Bit more tape n that plane will last another 25yrs 😂 there's a couple of better ones rusting in the shed i think but i like this one 😉

[@powderpuff1964]

if in doubt use expanding foam

[@Gidjoiner]

😂😂👍👍

[@powderpuff1964]

it will be locked open self closer will never be used

[@Gidjoiner]

Or disabled, the closing arm just pops off 👍

[@powderpuff1964]

palm trees sun your in spain

[@Gidjoiner]

😎 Felt like it, too bloody hot 😂

[@powderpuff1964]

there are somecowboys outthere

[@Gidjoiner]

Yeah looking at this i think this one was done by the cows instead 👍