Replace right front axle seal, 1998 Dodge Ram 4X4, part 2

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@greeves380
@greeves380 7 жыл бұрын
Actually its a good video, well done. By the way, for those with the Dodge Ram 2500s, the quickest way to tell a Dana 44 from a Dana 60 front diff is the hex size of the front cover: Dana 44" is a 1/2" hex bolt, the Dana 60 is a 9/16" hex bolt. Also, for those that are curious about the death wobble syndrome, we are using Hellbent racing steering box sector shaft stabilizer kit, and also weld-boxing the control arms, with energy higher duromoter bushings. Also purchase the best track bar you can afford, like a moog problem solver, or if you are lifted, an adjustable track bar. Lastly, do not use any ball joint except Moog Problem solver. The rest are junk. These front ends can suck up thousands of dollars of excess cash, so plan well from the beginning. Just our 2 cents worth here. Thanks
@isaakteichroeb1175
@isaakteichroeb1175 Жыл бұрын
I know this was posted 6yrs ago, but I'll try anyway lol. do you know if the 1500 4x4 came with the dana 44 as well
@herbb8412
@herbb8412 Жыл бұрын
@@isaakteichroeb1175 the underhood sticker on my 1997 1500 4x4 says front “Dana 4”. Rear “Chrysler 9.25”
@isaakteichroeb1175
@isaakteichroeb1175 Жыл бұрын
@herbb8412 awesome good to know really appreciate your replie
@dannylaronde2354
@dannylaronde2354 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, sure appreciate the work you have done to get us through this pain of a task. I finished the job in about 10 hours changing the front left and right seals of a 1998 2500 with a DANA 60F diff. Removed the ring gear without a case spreader and used a socket from my tool box to drive in the left seal and an Oreilley's rental seal driver kit, ready rod and a piece of PVC tube called a 1.5" Terminal Adapter costing $1.99 that I found wandering Ace Hardware to crank in the right seal. The right seal was a do over with success on the second attempt. I did it on my driveway and am very happy to have an extra grand in my pocket to play with. Thanks again!
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
The problem is permanently solved, no issues now. I still drive the vehicle daily. Thanks for watching.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
The driver I used was made by Quad4X4, you can google that name. Other competitors may be more cost effective, or you could try the hole saw idea that some readers describe in the comments. The latter option seems like a reasonable plan if you are willing to try to make your own.
@tuffy16
@tuffy16 2 жыл бұрын
I found that if I tried to keep rod centred I had trouble I let it kinda wander within reason and boom! done . Thanks! O I used a big washer instead of channel Update seal failed and 3D printed driver failed. Got one machined out of steel gonna try again soon. Ok steel one worked (I think) had to use a square tube instead of the washer, washer couldnt take it. Let you know in a day or so. Great video!!
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
With part one of this video, I show how to replace the left axle seal, which incidentally requires removing the right side because you need to get the diff out, and the only way to do that is by removing the (right) intermediate axle. So, a video showing how to do the left will show how to do both. It's the only video described as "part 1" on my channel.
@pauljanssen1184
@pauljanssen1184 10 жыл бұрын
I made a seal installer from a 1/2" sheave center I picked up at a supply store, the inside shoulder is 1 1/2" diameter which holds the seal. I also used a piece of 2" muffler pipe about a 1/2" long. The outside of the sheave had to be ground down to fit in the tube and the piece of muffler pushes the seal into place using a 1/2" length of redi rod. The sheave cost $7.99, the piece of scrap muffler pipe was free from the local muffler shop. Worked very well. Axle was a Dana 60 (not a 44).
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 10 жыл бұрын
I always like it when somebody comes up with good ideas like this. Thanks for posting it here, I'm sure others will appreciate your contribution!
@briansmobile1
@briansmobile1 13 жыл бұрын
Great video! If possible it would be a good idea to put a link in the description of where you bought the seal driver. I just finished filming the posi-lock kit install video that replaces that vacuum pod. Again great video!
@doubteverything
@doubteverything 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I changed my right front seal today and couldn't have done it without watching this first. I used a seal driver with a length of ready rod and it did set the seal in place. Thanks again.
@mikeherbert8764
@mikeherbert8764 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the information, your video was spot on , it helped me with the process of seal installation. I got educated.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 13 жыл бұрын
@briansmobile1 Hi, Brian. Thanks for your comment! The company is 4X4 Tech Inc, and I found them to be friendly and helpful, based out of Montana. It took about 2 weeks for the driver to arrive by regular mail here in Alberta, but I am sure they are faster inside the USA border or for special orders.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
You make a good point, and if I ever have to do it again I'll do it dry. The first two times I installed the seal on that side I did it dry. But this time, out of frustration, I put a thin film of Permatex on the outside surface, since I wondered if fluid leaked around the outside of the seal. Of course there is no Permatex on the inside. It worked, and I doubt I'll ever have to do that side again. But if I do, it will be more work to clean the old gasket off. Thanks for your contribution.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 13 жыл бұрын
@gravity006 That is an interesting idea. However remember that the intermediate shaft would have to be reinstalled after the seal is in place, and it doesn't slide in very well, possibly dislodging the seal as it is put in. Also, the big problem is the unfriendly shape of the seal, with the soft rubber parts vulnerable to damage. The best way to install the right seal is the way I've done it here.... Thanks for your creative and thoughtful contribution.
@paulwiney7313
@paulwiney7313 11 жыл бұрын
great videos and explanation. Another thing to do is not overfill the differential. this is cause of >90% of "leaking seals". As you found, your one seal was in good shape. Too many fill differential up to level of fill hole. Should be about 3/4" below. Many seals done unnecessarily. Still, great write up, thanks. Need to do a R&P replacement and will freshen seals while in.
@babybrafa
@babybrafa 12 жыл бұрын
great video you just saved me alot of head ache ,i didnt know there was an inner seal i was just looking for info on the outer seal
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 13 жыл бұрын
@4g63junkie Yeah, It's pretty simple. The CAD is vacuum driven, and when actuated it pushes the fork, which slides that nut over to mesh with the splines of both the intermediate axle and the wheel axle at the same time. When disengaged it only rides on one axle, and the other axle spins independently. The principle is very similar to that of the Chev, that I showed in a different video. Thanks for your comment.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
It's OK to watch for a week or two if leak is small and you keep an eye on the level. There is a chance it is just fluid in the tube which will settle. But, more likely you will be doing the seal. Good luck!
@johnanthony8375
@johnanthony8375 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Your video allowed me to replace my seal on the first try. Couldn't have done it with out you. Thanks again :)
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
I'll do it if I can find it (moved recently). Note that the size of the driver is reflected in the size of the seal, and you can buy a seal at any autostore. The national seal that I bought locally was a different size than the OEM seal, and so if you are designing a driver to fit your seal then you need to machine it to the brand of seal you're using. Also, you want it to fit your exact vehicle. I gave you a pretty good view of the driver in the video. Well designed.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
I just reviewed your channel. You do some serious off-roading! I can't say my truck has seen so much mud, but I'm sure it wants to. Nice to meet you, and thanks for your contribution.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
I love to meet people who think with creative flare, and so it's great to meet you. In this case I'm not sure it would work, since the edge of the seal is so narrow that it wouldn't have enough contact surface area to match up and bear the pressure needed to pull it in. The seal is designed to be squeezed radially inward, so the old seal will have a slightly smaller radius than the new seal. You might try using the hole saw drill bit trick, described in the comments....
@ZukiMan
@ZukiMan 3 ай бұрын
I very much appreciated this! I am about to replace mine
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment. If you try using a modified circular hole saw rather than the custom tool, please let the rest of us know how it goes.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
Hi, Chuck. Mine is leaking at the front seal between the trans and the case, and I'm planning to pull it off to have a look. Probably needs two seals, hopefully that's all. The case itself seems to be OK. I did do a transfer case job on a suburban, though I asked a pro to do the technical part. If you are interested in how the suburban case came on and off you can find it on my channel. It is quite a bit of work just to take it on and off, with some heavy lifting in awkward positions. Good luck!
@andyharter6563
@andyharter6563 12 жыл бұрын
If you don't have the special seal tool, you can use a shallow 2 or 2 1/8 inch hole saw (about 1" deep) and grind the teeth flat. it is the perfect size to install the seal using the same basic method with the threaded rod and it is much cheaper.
@4g63junkie
@4g63junkie 13 жыл бұрын
great video very helpful i was wondering how that cad worked and if i ever need axle seals i know how to put them in thanks
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an interesting plan, good luck! Be sure you can still service the seals and axles after you're done.
@matthewkohl5970
@matthewkohl5970 8 жыл бұрын
I must say, that is a brilliant idea. I need to change mine, and have been dreading it. but u made it look much easier.
@Rickdamm
@Rickdamm 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video , nice Job,,,I may have to replace my seal, I just changed my u joint ,rite side, but now theres a small leak from the axle area ...
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
That's an excellent point not to overfill. These days, the first thing I do is to check it is not overfilled (at the same time checking the vent).
@kenman1717
@kenman1717 10 жыл бұрын
That tool is a great idea. I have something similar, homemade. I use a cup one one end, fits inside the seal, pulls on the metal part, long rod with a nut, but I use a slide hammer on the other end, but its a 2 person job. But with your set up, definitely a one person job.
@danielrone9417
@danielrone9417 5 жыл бұрын
Tip from one who had to deal with this same seal problem . Use the old seal turned back to back to the new seal with a washer and nut with alltread just as you did on the inside. The old seal fits perfectly on the back of the new one , for cheap just a stick of alltread and your old seal . 7.00$ old school . I do like your special seal puller though . It looks like it works well .
@DNALawyer
@DNALawyer 5 жыл бұрын
I tapped in the passenger side seal of my 1997 RAM 1500 using a 4 foot long 3/4" pipe with a cap on the hammering end and a coupler on the impact end that I put on once the pipe was already inserted from the driver's side. I wrapped the pipe with Teflon tape to protect the roller bearing that is just inside of the 4WD activator. I used a 2 1/8 " hole saw with the teeth ground off and smoothed to place on the seal to drive it in. Rather painless. It did take 2 of us to do this.... one at each end.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
I found kits for sale just by using Google. The seal driver that I eventually bought came from a company called quad4X4. They were good. But if I were to do this again I would probably try to save the cash (nearly $100) and make my own. Andy Harter in the comments below suggested using a circular hole saw, which sounds to me like a good idea, though I've never tried it. He ground the teeth off, choosing a size that just fits inside the seal so pressure is on the strong inside metal flange.
@waitingforparts57
@waitingforparts57 Жыл бұрын
Very nice. Just found your video since i hsve s leaking front right seal. I am impressed with your work snd the presentation of the vudeo. I still don't know if i can do the repair although you provided all the needed details to be successful. Thank you and be well
@tatertodd641
@tatertodd641 11 жыл бұрын
Doing this again at my shop due to failure on round one. Thanks for the vid. This helped me to see the depth desired. THANKS!!! Can I borrow your custom seal driver??? LOL
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
I got the seal wrench from quad 4X4, search their name with Google. Don't forget to read all the comments on this thread for other options. Regarding the front axle, that sounds like a transfer case problem to me, maybe a problem with the encoder motor. I don't consider myself an expert in that area, but encoder motor problems can be electrical, mechanical, or malfunction of the encoder motor itself.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
Quad4X4. Expensive. Other options? I'm intrigued by the idea one viewer described, using a circular hole saw....
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
You're welcome -- there's just one seal on each side, but they are not easy to get to. Also take note of the suggestion made by Andy Harter, below, for a DIY alternative to a custom seal driver. Sounds like a good idea!
@jeepinjake
@jeepinjake 12 жыл бұрын
This really isnt a bad "junk yard joe" way of installing axle seals but people plz do not apply permatex to the axle seal. ANY seal that is coated with an orange,blue or any color coating is a dry install seal.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Check out the links and the discussion in this thread for more options.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 13 жыл бұрын
@GoldenRamMtlmstr And thank you , Kathy. Glad it helped, though I feel the pain of doing it on a different vintage.
@THEJMAN1
@THEJMAN1 5 ай бұрын
I just rented a seal driver kit at autozone and bought the all thread😊
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
The main reason for a dedicated specialty tool on the right is the limited access, preventing you from just tapping it in with a socket and a hammer. On the left, you need to remove the diff, so you have lots of room after that is done. I did a video of how to do the left and I showed how easy it is to just tap it in with a socket and small hammer -- check my video. Just remember that to get at the left, you need to remove the right, because the diff won't come out until the right axle is out.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
I've never done a 2500, but I believe the large castle nut on that model may need to be removed. Sounds like a bit more work. If you make a video, let me know and I'll have a look. Good luck.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad it worked out. This is not an easy repair, ha ha.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
I used 5/8" NC threaded rod, which is readily available. You need two seals, one for each side.But, if you replace the right one first, and then the left fails, you have a problem. In that case you may find yourself having to replace the right a second time, in which case you would need three. Hopefully the left fails first so you only need two. It's so much extra work to do the left that I wouldn't replace it as a preventative effort when doing the right.
@ryanm7549
@ryanm7549 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, really helped out a lot changing the front axle seals on my Dodge. Thanks for making this.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, I'm glad it helped.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, the 2500 is significantly different. As I recall, somebody said that you do need to remove the big axle nut on that one. You will want to get hold of a dealers manual before tackling it. Yes, I do believe a bad U-joint is the most common cause of this. Those U-joints commonly go bad, I've replaced both sides -- I should have recorded that effort but I didn't. Usually you get a clicking sound with each turn of the tire, when you steer to one side.
@funshootin1
@funshootin1 12 жыл бұрын
awesome vid..goin to tackle the same seal on my high pinion dana 30 with cad. i welded the diff and run a posiloc cable instead of vaccum setup to engage the axle..a steel fork is goin in too. poor mans selectable locker...kinda.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
Chuck, I posted a two part video of a transfer case to transmission seal repair this week. Cheers!
@Rickdamm
@Rickdamm 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info , ya I ll keep an eye on it like you said. , I think if I have to change the seal , I ll make one of your seal pullers, seems to work well in your vid, Take care .. Rick
@torrieroberts6467
@torrieroberts6467 11 жыл бұрын
WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHERE YOU BOUGHT THE SEAL WRENCH THAT U USED IN THE VIDEO TO INSTALL THE SEAL AND WOULD YOU BE KIND ENOUGH TO ANSWER A QUESTION BEFORE I TEAR A FRONT END APART? THE DRIVE SHAFT WILL TURN TO THE FRONT AXLE BUT THE FRONT WHEELS WONT PULL, ANY IDEA WHAT MIGHT BE CAUSING THE PROBLEM
@michaelgonzalez6692
@michaelgonzalez6692 3 жыл бұрын
I then had to make something work, but would rather have the right tool. I made 2 pieces 0ut of 3inch wide × 3/16 or 1/4 inch thick using a 2-5/8 hole saw for the one piece to pull on the back of seal. The other one the. Can't remember, but it just fits the axel tube on rt side. Basically the smaller one fits in the axel RT tube which I used for the axel tube side of the inner seal snugging them together hand tight with the Seal imbetween them just enough so the seal doesn't get pulled in crooked. Has worked for me.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
I hate to be the person to say something won't work, since history is full of people who in retrospect were closed minded. But honestly I doubt that will work. There are tons of people who have gone through all the work to replace that seal only to have it fail right away, and in retrospect they wish they had done it right the first time. Personally I would try that hole saw trick described in the comments, or maybe borrow or buy a seal driver. Good luck, and please let us know how it worked.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
Search quad4X4 for a professionally made seal driver. But read through all the comments on both videos -- you might be able to make your own and save over $100 by using a 2-21/4" hole saw, grinding down the teeth, and using threaded rod to pull it into place.
@L33CHW33D
@L33CHW33D 5 жыл бұрын
You're amazing. I like how you called it, "trucks of that vintage" :)
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
Google search dodge axle seal installer and various options will pop up. The custom seal is the most expensive and best option. I got mine at quad4X4 but I'm sure there are others.
@G.Harley.Davidson
@G.Harley.Davidson 9 жыл бұрын
I want to try and make a seal driver tool now. The fitted round press tool you paid so much for should maybe be mad from JB welding various diameter washers on top of one another to achieve the same specs as the expensive piece. I may give it a try to see what I can come up with. Thanks for the videos
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 9 жыл бұрын
+HARLEY D have a look at the discussion thread, there are lots of good ideas there. I like the idea to use a cylindrical hole saw. Good luck!
@G.Harley.Davidson
@G.Harley.Davidson 9 жыл бұрын
+spelunkerd agreed ! There are all sorts of clever ideas !
@G.Harley.Davidson
@G.Harley.Davidson 9 жыл бұрын
I made a press circular special tool out of a Hole Saw and put some plastic circles in side it to replicate the tool that you buy. Im anxious to see how it works!
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 9 жыл бұрын
Please stop by after you're done to tell us how it worked out.
@G.Harley.Davidson
@G.Harley.Davidson 9 жыл бұрын
+spelunkerd wish I could put a picture on here. It holds the seal perfectly straight. If it works, I'll do a write up on dodgeforum additional to yours with some pics.
@MrDragonfighter67
@MrDragonfighter67 11 жыл бұрын
nvm i found it tyvm you been very helpful with your 2 video's, you aren ot going to make a 3rd one i hope you corrected the seal leakage problem?
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
quad4X4 -- it's expensive. If you read the comments you will find other options. I like the one where guys modify a 2-21/4" hole saw.
@korn111685
@korn111685 2 жыл бұрын
This was worth the watch .
@j85ace
@j85ace 9 жыл бұрын
id just like to know where the tool was purchased spelunkerd
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
No, the diff can stay in place for the right side, it's a far easier repair. Just beware that when the right goes, the left may soon go as well. And if the left goes you will have to go back into the right to release the diff!
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, very funny! He's a couple of decades younger, thanks for the complement.
@speedingn61
@speedingn61 12 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! My friends and I have been scratching our heads over this all night. Can you PM me the link to the custom tool that you used to install the CAD seal? We have tried everything and I have to agree with you that this is the only way to accomplish such a goal.
@FragEightyfive
@FragEightyfive 11 жыл бұрын
Hole saw should fit against the 'metal part deep inside' @ 2:05 ? I haven't bought the seal yet to look at.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
(continued) So, to answer your question (grin), I think they are different size, but it doesn't matter because you don't need a special tool to do the left. Such tools are sold and you could buy one, but I wouldn't bother.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 12 жыл бұрын
I've never faced that problem so I won't be much help there. Presumably you need to pull the bearing and replace it. Which bearing is it?
@djcc1733
@djcc1733 4 жыл бұрын
take the old drivers side seal and use it as a press with threaded rod works perfect take sping out of new pasenger side seal and reinstall it after press proceder
@Stang97
@Stang97 12 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on taking the old seal, turning it around backwards, and using that same washer to press on the inside metal ring of the old seal? It would pull so that the old seal presses out the outer ring of the new seal. Is this plausible? Thanks a lot! ~Jason
@Breacher1371
@Breacher1371 13 жыл бұрын
i went to quad 4x4's home page and found full kits. I called them and tried over the phone to order it and it seems that they don't carry it anymore... do you have a part number that they could look up in their inventory or an exact URL to that part. I have a 99 dodge ram with the exact same leak, I've already tried the washer method and it worked for 2 weeks, now leaking again. Id even buy your seal driver if you would sell it to me. it may be the last one ill ever see.
@jasonthompson8961
@jasonthompson8961 2 жыл бұрын
What is the part number for the special tool to install this seal?
@joshuafoughtatjericho
@joshuafoughtatjericho 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Doing this repair. Do you have the link for the seal driver you used?
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 6 ай бұрын
I used a seal made by Quad4X4, but it was expensive. The discussion thread has many bright options, including the option to make one with a 3D printer. I sent the dimensions to a guy who made a printer file for people to make their own.
@joshuafoughtatjericho
@joshuafoughtatjericho 6 ай бұрын
Ok thank you very much!
@trevorfhe
@trevorfhe Ай бұрын
Does anyone know how much gear oil that Center Axle Disconnect "window" holds in the area that seal was replaced? I had to replace mine as it started leaking heavily and I cannot find fluid capacity for this anywhere. Thanks for the great video! It was super helpful!
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd Ай бұрын
In the smaller axles of this vintage, the fluid is confluent with the diff fluid. If you fill the diff fluid up, gear oil will make its way over to the right axle tube. I put in no more than a hundred cc before bolting on the cover plate so it won't start dry.
@MrAbrink
@MrAbrink 12 жыл бұрын
good video , is the process the same on a 1999 4x4 2500?
@oneguysopinionyup7252
@oneguysopinionyup7252 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome 🥳 but where do I find this item to purchase 🤔
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 3 жыл бұрын
As I read this again, I'm guessing this is actually a real question. The seal driver I used was from Quad4X4, but if I were you I'd read the comment by Daniel Stevens, where he made one himself with a 3D printer. Much cheaper, he included the details needed in that thread.
@oneguysopinionyup7252
@oneguysopinionyup7252 3 жыл бұрын
@@spelunkerd thank you 🥳👍
@Stang97
@Stang97 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply! Do you think using the old seal facing the same way as the new seal would work?
@precinct1baltimorecountyre588
@precinct1baltimorecountyre588 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks ill buy this tool. Cause Saving a dollar ain't worth the frustration and time. When u figure time into it it's worth having the tool thanks for your help
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 8 жыл бұрын
+precinct 1 baltimore county residents Yes, if the shaft dislodges the seal when you reinsert the shaft, the seal hasn't been adequately seated first. The right tool makes this go very easily, but I certainly understand the motivation to make your own seal driver. Many guys in this comment thread have said that a hole saw can be ground down to make a good seal driver, although you have to factor in your effort and time, as well.
@andrewchan9925
@andrewchan9925 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, just curious...my collar would not just come out like that. Although I ended up replacing my seal without removing the collar but just curious if you had to do anything else to be able to remove the collar? Thank you
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 2 жыл бұрын
If you're talking about what I called a 'nut' at 5:07, perhaps your vehicle is designed a little differently. In the end it sounds like you made it work even without removing that piece. You can slide the whole intermediate shaft out if need be, it has to be removed to get the differential out.
@funshootin1
@funshootin1 12 жыл бұрын
should all pop apart, i removed the carrier when i weldedit. been running the setup 2 years. this will be the first seal issue for it. lotta water were we wheel and sandy gritty soil too. eats up seals..unit bearings..ujoints.t.ugh.. rears get contaminated regardless of extra measures. the price of fun i guess
@BurntheStealerships
@BurntheStealerships 10 ай бұрын
Do you have a link for that seal driver? Thank you for what you do- your videos have helped me immensely!
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 8 ай бұрын
I got mine through Quad 4X4 but I'm sure there are cheaper options.
@BurntheStealerships
@BurntheStealerships 8 ай бұрын
@@spelunkerd ended up purchasing the Wahlstrom tool. At your cost estimation it was only about $10 more. Worked like an absolute charm.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 13 жыл бұрын
Their website is quad4X4.com. If you get one of those custom seals you need to order an OEM seal, because the fit with generic seals is not exact. I had an old National seal and that one doesn't fit very well.
@openmind9555
@openmind9555 3 жыл бұрын
Question. When you remove drive shaft. No differential fluid should follow correct? Even if it was not leaking before removing it. I might have moved seal removing hub assembly
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the time I don't get any oil draining when removing either of the front outer axles. For the right front axle seal, you'll get about 50 cc of gear oil dripping after you take off the shift housing shown at 4:54, so use a pan for that. It doesn't drain a lot, but if you don't get any fluid out the shift housing plate you should check your oil level in the main diff housing to be sure you're properly filled up. Guys with newer models sometimes add gear oil back in through the sensor port of the shift housing when they are putting it all back together, but I've never done that. My OEM manual doesn't mention it, but newer models may have more of a seal, so check your manual. In my Ram there is no seal separating that cavity from the main front diff, so gear oil will find its way over the the shift housing fairly quickly. If the outer seals fail on either side, you'll get a characteristic oil drip pattern on the inside sidewall of the tire on that side. It leaks especially with a hard turn to the opposite side.
@openmind9555
@openmind9555 3 жыл бұрын
@@spelunkerd great info thanks. Looks like im good. Picking up rebuilt driveshaft tomorrow. 👍
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
That's a great story, thanks for the feedback.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
It depends on whether you are going to use an OEM seal or an aftermarket seal. The seal made by them only fits the former, there is quite a difference. If I had a lathe, I would get the actual seal I would be using, and design he driver around that. I'll see if I can find the one I have again, we've moved and it might be lost. If I can find it I will give you some rough dimensions.
@FragEightyfive
@FragEightyfive 11 жыл бұрын
Ok, nevermind, I found Jmwtedder's video on it. 2" hole saw it is.
@johnpancoast7766
@johnpancoast7766 11 жыл бұрын
Did u have to drop the diff out when you done the passenger side or just the lil plate
@georgevalencia1713
@georgevalencia1713 6 жыл бұрын
A condom on a porn star, had me laughing for awhile. LOL!
@HeartyRapier
@HeartyRapier 4 ай бұрын
Same! Didn’t see it comin from this fella, made it so much funnier!
@willpartch09
@willpartch09 12 жыл бұрын
yeah i got a long rod like in the video an some washers an nuts but on the out side of the axel i put a plate an a bolt to tighten the rod an pull the seal inplace but iv just crushed the steal plate lol
@KANSASIOUX
@KANSASIOUX 4 жыл бұрын
Guys you can rent the seal driver plates at oriellys, jus buy the nuts and 17” thread.
@KANSASIOUX
@KANSASIOUX 4 жыл бұрын
Plate on each end followed by nut
@williamdownes8541
@williamdownes8541 11 жыл бұрын
So would that be a total of 3 seals that would need to be replaced of just two? ..And what size or guage threaded rod did you use?
@G.Harley.Davidson
@G.Harley.Davidson 9 жыл бұрын
I see now why quad 4x4 uses grade 8 hardware . One of my zinc coated 1/2" nut got jammed on the end of the thread rod. Screwed my whole project up. The seal press special tool worked alright, but then I got stuck dealing with that nut.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 9 жыл бұрын
+HARLEY D It's good to have remarks like yours here in the thread, thanks for posting. Makes people realize that any job has potential for complication. I also noticed that their custom design has fine-thread rod, in contrast with the coarse thread found on typical rod off the shelf. Fine thread would definitely give more leverage to translate rotational torque into axial pressure on the seal. I just found their prices to be too high for amateur use, especially if you buy the rod as well.
@G.Harley.Davidson
@G.Harley.Davidson 9 жыл бұрын
+spelunkerd I was happy to see my homemade press tool working and then that happened with the rod and turned my 1 1/2 hour job turn into an all evening absolute cursing marathon . That nut jammed and I bent my press tool all to hell trying to get the nut off the rod that was on the CAD side of the seal. I think my seal is good though, I hope at least .
@Ltacuara
@Ltacuara 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Excelent video and technique.. Maybe you can help me. I have to replace the inner bushing in te axle. Is the bushing in the other side of the 4WD shifter housing, the one that goes to de differential side. The axle goes up and down there, and I belive thats the reason why my seal gets broken. How do I remove the old one? Do you have any experience on that? Thank you Domingo
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 5 жыл бұрын
I'd pull it apart and find out what is wrong. That said, it is not uncommon for that axle seal to fall apart if you haven't seated it correctly, especially if you didn't use a dedicated seal driver to place it.
@Ltacuara
@Ltacuara 5 жыл бұрын
@@spelunkerd Thanks for your rapidlly response. I live in Uruguay and here only a few people know about this Ram model. I just finished taking all passengers axles and it seems that in a previous owner repair they didnt put the bushing, now I understand why every time I engaged the 4 x 4 i hear an ugly noise "clang", that was the inner axle hiting the house of the diferential. I will put a new one. Thanks
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 13 жыл бұрын
@cleaninhouse1 I'm sending you a personal message since I don't want my video to become a corporate advertisement. The seal is still for sale on the page I found, and if they don't have it somebody else will -- it would be easy to make on a lathe. I hope it works out for you. Dave
@willpartch09
@willpartch09 12 жыл бұрын
hey were did you find that custom seal driver you showed us in the video
@traviscavage7689
@traviscavage7689 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MrDragonfighter67
@MrDragonfighter67 11 жыл бұрын
were did you get your axle seal driver i cant seem to find one on amazon or ebay!! i need one to replace my seal on my 97 dodge ram 1500.
@micheallang7515
@micheallang7515 2 жыл бұрын
How do you remove the inner and outer seal on the right side of the front axle on a 99 ram 1500 4x4
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that it is very similar. The 98 was a new model year, and that axle has been around for decades. Newest models switched to electric actuators but these old trucks were vacuum actuated.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that technique seems to have promise. Notice that he had to cut it down because the first effort was too big to fit inside that small space.
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