Replace spokes in 'no hole' rims

[@emmieandpinky]

I have been building wheels for over 30 years. I have never seen a more helpful presentation.

[@user-nt8sv1gk7m]

Awesome job, now all I have to do is make my small tools and get to replacing spokes. Thanks Mark in GA USA

[@stuartdryer1352]

I'm never going to do this myself but it's really cool to see how it's done.

[@oliverd81]

Dear all, i am not sure if this concerns countries with hot and dry conditions but in europe we have experienced several cases of alloy corrision with "no hole" rims in which case alloy nipples and steel spokes were used. After one year of use the nipples corroded to grey-ish powder. Spokes would pop from the wheels while riding! The reason is mostly the lack of the steel washer that avoids direct contact between the carbon rim and the alloy nipple. In the case of "no hole" rims these washers are often not installed (For obvioues labour reasons). One should always use brass nipples in this case! The rim manufacturer (a big known brand) and the european spoke manufacturer that resides in a small country, famously known for its beer and fries, were involved in this case. They would first argue with resons like "seawater" and "sealant fluid" but at the end the design flaw was clear and they replaced the wheels. Although several people were complaining about the webiste information of the rim/wheel producer they still offer "no hole" rims with alloy nipples not mentioning the design flaw in this case. Wheels from the same manufacturer with holes in the rim bed that used steel nipple washers are fine after several years of use under the same conditions. Intrestingly DT Swiss does not seem to have these issues of internal nipples (alloy) combined with steel spokes. This could be because they use a different grade alloy. However, with brass nipples one should not experience any of these problems.

[@davidwilliams8223]

Brilliant video , Thanks so much . Just waiting for replacement to arrive . Really didn’t know what to do when I saw “no hole in the rim “.

[@frangonzalez6511]

Great to see you again, and as always a great and useful vid!!!

[@ivanm1018]

Thank you! Now I know which rims never to touch.

[@maxab7e63s5]

I knew you needed a magnet but got confused on how to remove. Nice instructional vid

[@santiagobenites]

Another great and informative video! Thanks, and cheers from Toronto.

[@tobingj]

Great video and tips. Amazed how difficult some bit of cycling repairs can be. 👍

[@hermesperezd]

Buen dia, eres un Maestro excelente. Saludos desde Venezuela....

[@fucktheworld1207]

The Master Machanic of Australia strikes again 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@wiggettyg2732]

So what I’ve learned is to ALWAYS get holed rims.....

[@philippbeckonert1678]

: Also, holes save weight :D

[@PeterMooshammer]

@@philippbeckonert1678 but you need a rim tape…

[@DominikLoeffler1]

Nah, more dangerous than it's worth. Sealant can leak into the rim cavity, causing very difficult to diagnose slow leaks at best, and sudden flats at worst. Plus you'll have to mess around with the tubeless tape when replacing a spoke or rebuilding the wheel

[@TC-hl1ws]

I just had a custom carbon mtb wheelset built and also opted for the brass nipples. Not only for strength but mainly for longevity. Galvanic corrosion between aluminum and carbon is well documented especially when water is introduced.

[@swray2112]

I’ve built about 20 pairs of wheels in the last decade (all aluminum rims), and found this video after wondering how to get nipples in a rim without holes. No way in the world I would have the patience for that. I don’t care how much stronger carbon is, it would be destroyed when I threw it in frustration. Props to you, your ingenuity & patience!

[@stevenleffanue]

Understandable. Patience required for integrating cables thru bars too.

[@paulf8286]

Great job on putting this video together. Thanks mate

[@Trisomethingnew]

Great vid, I always wondered how this is done since I have this type of rims.

[@garethhelliwell9736]

Mavic MA40. Now that takes me back to my days working in a bike back here in the U.K in the 90's. I but many of them as well as open pro's etc.

[@borano2031]

Good performance. Same idea that Fulcrum used on their Racing 1 wheelset almost 15 years ago. Rgr

[@theunknownunknown3007]

Greetings from the other side of the world (Germany)! Learned a lot from your videos. Didnt you use a tension meter for the wheel building? I'm jealous of the good bike weather with you.

[@rourose]

He does, he also did a review on an aliexpress one some time ago

[@stevenleffanue]

I often use spoke tension meter when building carbon rimmed wheels but don't think I've put it in a video....yet

[@bsimz008]

Thats a lot of work! Your typical LBS will just say get a new wheelset.

[@stevenleffanue]

Haha , maybe. Total repair cost was only AU$100

[@bsimz008]

@@stevenleffanue it pays to know and ride with a great mechanic like you 😁

[@bsimz008]

What's the reasoning behind this rim design?

[@bsimz008]

@@DanTuber not too practical then .considering how much trouble you go thru lacing them

[@bsimz008]

@@DanTuber not too practical then if thats the only reason

[@wayneyoung146]

You need to make more videos please. Enjoy watching your channel

[@diamondmine67]

That looked like a 'bike hand' 4 sided spoke wrench. Thought about getting a set of those..

[@patrickparisienne1917]

Great advice as always!👌

[@knife1406]

an idea for a video if you wanted to make it, pedal technique or maybe bike position? or anything like that. I've heard people say do just what feels natural but I've also heard that there's drills or technique people do to better better/more efficient. Or maybe bike handling control. Just if you had any insight on the matter!

[@JogBird]

how do thye lace these wheels at the factory, seems like labour costs would be so high

[@stevenleffanue]

It is labor intensive. So many bicycles now have internal cabling and wiring which is also labor intensive. Brake/gear levers are especially complex to manufacture.

[@snafujag100]

Labour costs are not an issue in China😂

[@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834]

@@snafujag100 thats why we cant compete. And thoses girls hands are so small and they make us look clumsy .😄

[@gianpaolocunha]

Amazing!

[@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834]

Steven you are amazing

[@dcercado100]

Amazing! 😮👍

[@sless6928]

I learned something today.

[@qibble455]

Very helpful. 10/10

[@geistbike]

That`s a absolute, awesome idea.....

[@compassionsix]

Wow. I always wondered how to get them in there.

[@sabamacx]

It's possible to lace a wheel without holes in the rimbed while using nipple washers by threading a fishing line and magnet to every hole, then passing the nipple and washer along the line to the spoke hole, holding it with a clamp while threading a spoke, and cutting+extracting the fishing line afterwards. Repeat for every spokehole. Never again.

[@knife1406]

I was debating getting some lightbicycle rims without holes but im not sure its worth the extra work lol, I was wondering if it made the wheel a bit stronger or something but I'm not sure it really matters. Plus I don't plan on going tubeless on my road bike.

[@stevenleffanue]

Now you know how to replace spokes with or without spoke holes. Either wheels can be fixed.

[@MuckingMunt]

@knife I think these rims are only 'hole-less' through some manufacturing expedience to make more to sell cheaper. Think about it; drilling the holes all the way through, would remove more metal (i.e. weight) but would require extra factory tooling to enlarge the hole slightly on the tube/tyre facing portion of the rim floor. The factory would obv. have some cost-to-manufacture trade off where they can lace these rims as they are.

[@BogdanDulgheru]

How cost your work and the materials ...?

[@robertmcfadyen9156]

Calvin Jones from Park initiated this topic . Let's see who can build one of these "WITHOUT" magnetism reliance . That would be a real conversation . New design self locating nipples are pending with the U.S. patent office .

[@stevenleffanue]

There are multiple methods you can use. ...fine fishing line is one example.

[@Ad-wv8zt]

very helpful .. thanks

[@damiengill7014]

Jeez, you love a challenge 👏👏

[@mrT-gx5bq]

you are a legend

[@FGIRAFFE]

Oh god! Houdini brass nipples getting out of the whole all by itself!

[@davidlenneberg4303]

Great video but I don’t know why they just don’t put holes in the rim 😳

[@RodrigoSilvaRocha]

Maybe so you don't need rimtape to get a tubless setup and applying sealant is easier. Honestly IDK

[@MuckingMunt]

@@RodrigoSilvaRocha its more a manufacturing expedience for some reason with these narrow, fast road rims where tubeless hasnt established itself.

[@thediscoman2001]

you got any videos on how to build and true a wheel, as i would be intrested in having a go at wheel building

[@roneysilveira7606]

Congrats Steve: never guess how was made, thanks 🙏🏻

[@rul3272]

Hello! Very like Your instructions and explanations! Now I'm try mastering chain wax lubrication, by Your tutorials) Sorry for my english, it's not my native language. I have questions about maintains of rear and front derailleur: 1) how to clean them 2) how often 3) what lube to use on pivot points 4) can cleaning be done when cables is instaled - mouting points of cable housing (cable jacket) of rear derailleur, allow me to take rear derailleur away up to 1m. from bicycle without disconnecting cable. 5) cable - cleaning, lubrication, ways to protect, which better to choose. Can cables be reused? What need to know about that? 6) maybe any other important moments? Thank You for all!

[@stevenleffanue]

Silicone spray lube for pivot joints. Use teflon coated inner wires for gears....no lube required.

[@rul3272]

@@stevenleffanue Thank You for answer!

[@fjp2000]

Amazing

[@seanwil545]

Oh Yeah, I'll definitely stick with rims with Access Holes.

[@vd0o666]

What do think of Cam Nicholls review of his Winspace Hyper Wheels?

[@chrisbliss2034]

What an arse of a job! But I understand it's part of a stronger wheel. Well covered. 🚴

[@wjlaird86]

Legend 👍

[@rauleduardo8020]

Where can I get the magnetic screw? I also have Yoeleo with the DT Swiss

[@stevenleffanue]

It's just an ordinary steel screw...steel is magnetic

[@bob-ny6kn]

Whut? No blood? Surely that no-holer must have caused blood to shoot from your ears. I wonder if twenty little fish tapes would have facilitated the fastener placing.

[@Evaso_CC]

Intrigued by how they get all the nipples in, in the first place. Can’t be quick for mass manufacturing?

[@WowRixter]

What a nightmare

[@death2pc]

Tell everyone about the supposed benefits of bladed spokes. What....... "Aero".........?

[@Lacking_something]

What a faff! How do they make these wheels!? Surely not with bits of steel spokes and magnets!

[@leifcian4288]

... Through the valve hole? What?

[@leifcian4288]

Why is this better than rim tape?

[@mydearriley]

wow, what a faff! all because rim tape can't be trusted?

[@MrGarycoww]

What an awful design. I stick to standard with rim tape thanks

[@Megadeth6633]

GOD id rather have holes in my rims.

[@ministryoftruth8588]

Is it JUST ME or this WHOLE PROCEDURE of 'Extra Steps' in the Wheelbuilding Process EARILY Similar to the Frustrating Crap us Guys Do and PUT UP WITH When Dating and Trying to get Laid?! (BTW No Offense on my Last Comment in your DurianRider Video. My 'Sense' of Humor Just seems to work in a 'Freudian Way' and is SOMETIMES 'Interpreted' the Wrong Way). BTW COOL but PITA Hack you figured out there ... Guess there's Really No NON-PITA Way to go about building up these "Spoke Hole-Less" Wheels. I'll 'Stick' with Tape with Tubeless and Rim Strips with Tubes and I'll INSPECT Any Future Wheels I buy and MAKE SURE they're NOT THESE TYPES of Wheels. I REALLY DON'T Even have the "Patience" to 'Date' Anymore. I can just IMAGINE The "EXPLETIVES" I'd be Yellin out Working on THIS Project! This would have me Pullin my Hair Out! You're WAYYY More "Patient" than I AM there my Friend!