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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers - loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.
“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”
The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on KZbin. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.
“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”
But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news - the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.
It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.
“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”
With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on KZbin, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do - even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.
While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.
But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks - who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago - the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.
Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king - the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.
I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”
And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”
Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”
It’s probably for the best - the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all - class issues,” he said on a recent episode.
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[@veddyveddygood]

"Land of the free" my ass - an absolute myth

[@Ellieempress]

Always has been a myth . Free to force one’s religion on others to the point of violence and death maybe .

[@Iloveswedes]

This shows the priorities of Republicans.

[@arandomlemon6707]

Welp remember the phrase then, "the 2nd was made to defend the 1st"

[@qjtvaddict]

How many countries have no fault divorce???

[@eragon78]

@@qjtvaddict not enough

[@buddyman1990]

If you need a law to force someone to be with you, you don't deserve to be with someone to begin with.

[@19Marksman79]

I'm lost. What does this have to do with at fault divorce?

[@FazeParticles]

people need firm guidance. don't make excuses. also it's still legal to not get married. consider this option you chumps if you're scared.

[@isasooner5]

In Islam, this is not a govt or legality issue. There is evidence that in Islam no fault divorce is permitted! But Kyle proves he’s naive and a feminist! THIS IS NOT JUST A WOMAN’S ISSUE! IT’S MENS ISSUE AS WELL! I this is why I can’t stand the secular, atheistic, progressive left! I’m a Muslim and I don’t even necessarily agree with the legality or illegality of this issue! Forget about the govt. The fact that you people don’t even bring up the fact that men shouldn’t be getting divorces for no reason as well! And many women do screw over their husbands and get a divorce for a frivolous reason and take half his money and the children!

[@jedahn]

Women are not entitled to relationships.

[@beel8436]

@@FazeParticles If you don't want your wife to leave don't be a chump. Don't run to the government to make it so that she can't leave. You're pathetic.

[@RicanNY7]

More women won't marry if this passes.

[@kekistani_meme_farmer7242]

Good People should be less willing to marry and the divorce rate proves it.

[@Andy.Smurphy]

Next step will be to ban women working and make them stay at home, ban then from having bank accounts leading to women having to marry to survive ... just like the good old days ...

[@josephstalin839]

Marriage is outdated and doesn’t mean as much as it used to. Weddings are just ways to show off to all your friends and family.

[@liphrium9858]

​@kekistani_meme_farmer7242 your the reason birth rates are declining bro

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

@@RicanNY7 where's the problem?

[@almosthelpless9374]

Imagine being such an alpha male that you want to force the state to prevent your wife from leaving.

[@bfizz1e187]

no fault just means your wife can't just cheat on you divorce you and take half your money. it would make it so if your wife leaves you for no good reason she can't take all your money

[@mollyshine20brown65]

Did these Republican idiots forget that a former Republican made divorce legal? Ronald Reagan. So, why would they want to take down something that their party made into law in the first place?

[@nickthompson1812]

Imagine thinking women are angels and aren’t subject to greed and indecisiveness.

[@OBLIVIOUSKARI]

@@bfizz1e187that’s why they use irreconcilable differences

[@indiigo14]

​@@nickthompson1812 Bro shut up with that. Stop acting like men aren't above that too and I'm a guy saying that. You better also hold men accountable for doing the same too.

[@Kalepsis]

Nothing drives people away from conservatism and religion more than the Republican party. And that's great.

[@seand.g423]

And nothing breaks more progressives than the DNC myth of the "sane Republican"

[@frederikmarohn6358]

State with the lowest divorce rate: Massachusetts State with the lowest religiosity: Massachusetts hmmmmm

[@AZ-hg6kw]

❤️

[@user-wl2xl5hm7k]

You _have_ to distinguish between just religiosity and punitive-state religiosity aka religious-authoritarianism. You have to make this distinction clear. Every time.

[@spencer_jackson542]

It’s Vermont for both. Not Massachusetts.

[@kethanraman944]

But to be fair this doesnt really mean anything, because there are a lot of cultural reasons that lead to high or low divorce rates. For Example India has one of the lowest divorce rates and is a very religious country whereas Sweden which is one the least religious countries has one of the highest rates of divorce. Confusingly, Gulf States like Kuwait and Saudi Arabia have a very similar divorce rate to the USA and other western European countries whereas Ireland has a very low rate.

[@andyd568]

Marriage rates might be lower ?

[@burniejarvis9298]

They literally want to roll back the clock and turn women back into property. How women are republican I'll never know.

[@ItsAllCulturalMarxism]

Why are for no fault divorce?

[@burniejarvis9298]

​@@ItsAllCulturalMarxism Why am I for it? Because people should be allowed to divorce if they want.

[@Ruby_Eve]

​@burniejarvis9298 exactly. If you don't wanna be with someone then you shouldn't be forced to stay

[@Ifoughtpiranhas]

Women's party allegiance to the GOP is just another form of Stockholm Syndrome.

[@PromiscuousBoy]

I think Some of the #s can be attributed to the Same “ Anti Gay “ yet VERY Clearly Gay “ Conservative “ Men , they’re to Fn Afraid …. Sadly and of Course Hypocritically Showin the World how the “ Strong “ Conservatives are in Fact Actually the WEAKEST

[@WilliamBrowning]

This isn't just bad for women. Without No Fault divorce, a man who wants a divorce would also have to prove infidelity or abuse. What if she isn't abusive physically but financially or emotionally. Men will have to go to the hospital and have physical abuse documented which is already something men don't do. Men will have to testify in court 'my wife bears me' and this is already a problem for some men to be able to admit. This is bad for EVERYONE.

[@grim524]

It's bad for the kids too. A lot of unhappy couples stay together "for the kids", but that does more damage than divorce. It teaches the kids very bad lessons about relationships. Only an authoritarian would be for this.

[@funandgames4645]

Not only do men not do it. Men aren’t believed when they do

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

@@WilliamBrowning that's not how it works, you wouldn't have to prove anything in divorce court the same as you would in criminal court. They're just trying to prevent people from divorcing for no real reason and taking half of their partner's assets.

[@sewdramatic5587]

unfortunately in this scenario where a man simply wants to end his marriage, many men will murder their wives if they can't get a divorce.

[@19Marksman79]

If the wife has a child that's not his, the husband would be off the hook for alimony and child support. All it takes is a paternity test.

[@andyackerman7132]

I’d like to apologize as an Ohioan. I did not vote for him.

[@cydonia3167]

Same! But at least we have legal weed now?

[@dirtabd]

Its not your fault, its the Boomer majority's fault this country will fail soon. MIT says 2040, I'd say if it keeps heading towards oligopoly, it gets updated to the 2032-2036 range.

[@Theressomethingwrongwiththem]

You're forgiven. We know the election was rigged. 😆🤣

[@Theressomethingwrongwiththem]

​@cydonia3167 😲 WHAAAAT!?!?! You have legal weed? I escaped the Midwest, and shit goes progressive. 😂 Fascinating.

[@cydonia3167]

@@Theressomethingwrongwiththem Try as you might, you will never really escape the Midwest.

[@masonmcswain4347]

As a child of divorce I can say that without no fault divorce my mother would be dead.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

You can die from not being able to steal half of someone's assets? I learned something new today.

[@asande7126]

abuse is at fault dummy

[@jmsmys13ify]

​@@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231

[@meghan42]

@@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 oh shut it!

[@TakarieZan]

@@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 Stop being brain dead.

[@russlcorey]

Next step: mandatory marriage between unmarried people that birth a child.

[@bobbun4369]

Good to see democrats openly admitting to not being able to fulfill a commitment

[@wolfpowers2867]

Another possibility: The state assigns wives to men. Some MRAs have been discussing that one online for a while.

[@19Marksman79]

Yes, a woman with 4 kids, 4 different fathers, is assigned a State appointed husband to support all of them. It goes both ways.

[@FazeParticles]

well depending on who's in charge. lol

[@FazeParticles]

@@wolfpowers2867 that's only acceptable if they're fit and friendly.

[@saraa3248]

They will discourage marriage altogether

[@kekistani_meme_farmer7242]

Maybe that's a good thing. People should put more thought into what is supposed to be a commitment that transcends your lifetime.

[@19Marksman79]

What's the difference with how things are now?

[@dennarddancer1960]

GOOD. MARRIAGE IS OBSOLETE ANYWAY...!!!

[@Hustle-Man-ForLife]

Good, because most of them are marrying with the wrong intentions

[@devin3607]

Thats the intention. So put an end to bs marriages where women are just using them to cash out

[@Airith4]

Small government except when my spouse wants to leave me waaah.

[@JohanDanielsson8802]

Small government would mean, no legal concept of marriage whatsoever.

[@OldCleisthenes]

Sharia Law -> Christian National Edition

[@DuaYafai]

I am Muslim and sharia law u can get a divorce but it should be for a valid reason so if he doesn’t please you in bedroom that’s a acceptable reason, if he is cheating, if he is abusing you, if he very stingy not broke but stingy like has money and doesn’t buy u anything or insulting u disrespecting you it had to be a valid reason basically 2:26 lol Christianity you are not allowed to have a divorce at all even if u get beat up if you see real Christianity they just changed that part 😂 to suit there selves but anyway all I’m saying is that’s dumb that they can’t get a divorce and sharia is not like Christianity even abortion we can have an abortion but it is very found upon, but the thing is only in certain circumstances so basically if you get raped, and there is proof and everything then yes, you can get an abortion or if the child is going to be severely disabled, and the doctors have told you the difficulties with that child or you have have utierus issue that you can lose your life then also you can have an abortion, but you can’t have an abortion because you feel like itlol that’s not allowed because that’s a human life and I know people say my body my choice but it’s wrong So sharia law is a lot flexible compared to the Christian and Jewish law there way more strict then us but media makes us look strict or maybe cuz we are more religious and we take religion serious that’s why they assume it’s worse lol this is the reason why God made a system for us that we only sleep with our spouse that’s it so if our spouse gets pregnant, they won’t be abortion because the man is with his husband and with her long-term because she’s sleeping around with Tom, Dick and Harry how much abortion she would have. That’s so messed up human life every time because you decided to open your legs all the time come on it’s ridiculous. I agree with the last things. This guy says, but this just don’t agree with. I think abortion should only be allowed only in those circumstances my body my choice is anoying yeah so I can fuck men and kill a baby everytime come on have a heart that’s heartless most heartless thing ever but like I said in my religion, they are exceptions so by the looks of the Christianity is a lot stricter than us😂 it’s old because majority of Christians have abandoned their religion that we look way more religious than them because we teach our kids, modesty and chastity life is not all about desire, desire desire if you cannot control your desires you’ll be an animal lol you might aswell be an animal nower days they teach kids do what makes u happy no bro not happening if sex makes unhappy when ur 7 go fuck someone ?? If drinking is what makes unhappy go do that if having drugs makes u happy go do that if watching porn makes u happy go so that like come on u can’t have a system like this without good laws everyone wants there desires life’s a test although many people deny it it’s the truth but oh well I guess everyone thinks it’s ancient myths and tales like Allah says in the Quran when they see our verses they say these are tales of the ancient .. how he is correct and our means about himself god cuz he is not a human being and us and we he uses those words to talk about himself cuz he doesn’t have a gender he isn’t a human and Allah says in the Quran I am time so do not play with the time you have Allah created time space everything look at the universe atleast believe in one god only who created this all let’s atleast agree on that

[@SkyeSage17]

Patriarchal society

[@azouitinesaad3856]

fun fact sharia law allows women to have a no fault divorce

[@AbubekirYalcin14]

​​@@azouitinesaad3856 no it does not, where did you get that from.

[@azouitinesaad3856]

@@AbubekirYalcin14 it does if a woman wants to divorce it can do it she doesn't need a reason.

[@Artak091]

Do this or make prenups mandatory. Why should I work hard my whole life just to be lied to and have half my money taken? Naw fam. Marriage in america is a scam. You get to enjoy my resources while we're together, you shouldn't get to take it with you when you leave.

[@bobbun4369]

How about just fulfill your commitment?

[@Artak091]

​@bobbun4369 how does this opinion of yours account for lying gold diggers? This white knight assumption that women are always innocent is the reason we're even debating this.

[@Artak091]

​@@bobbun4369the assumption that women are always innocent 100 percent of the time is the reason we're even debating this. Sometimes they lie too

[@Anti-CommunistCommunitarian]

@@Artak091 You are also making some strong assumptions about the spouse in your original comment yet are mad when the same is done to you. Interesting.

[@19Marksman79]

@bobbun4369 what if she will not fill her commitment?

[@AmyBauer-ql7dw]

If they had their way girls would be forced to get married and have children as soon as they are childbearing age. It would be a federal law.

[@azouitinesaad3856]

bruh wtf does that have to do with no fault divorce.

[@belladonna5012]

@@azouitinesaad3856 Long-term agenda. This is happening at the same time as attacks on abortion, attacks on IVF, attacks on LGBT people, screeching about "but our birthrates," and Republican politicians who can't keep their mouth shut about wanting to go after birth control next. These things are not separate from each other; they all have something in common.

[@davidlane1248]

​@@azouitinesaad3856it's what the right wants. To control women. Go back to when they were little more than property. They don't want them to divorce, they don't want them to have reproductive rights. I wouldn't be surprised if some Republicans straight up want to end women's suffrage as well Stop pretending this isn't about control over women. They're absolutely related

[@justsomeguy6336]

Based

[@19Marksman79]

I am all for at fault divorce if a man is not required to pay alimony or child support after his wife has a baby that's not his.

[@cementbox4430]

They wanna time travel so bad for no good reason.

[@PNX034]

I do too, but so I can like buy stocks or delete hitler or something like that

[@paularroyo3450]

Another reason God didn't make time machines

[@nickthompson1812]

Have you tried dating in 2024? Monogamy is a pipe dream.

[@trappedinamerica7740]

@@PNX034you’re failing the hitler thing right now

[@Helios--]

It's to waste everyone's time and energy on stupid shit. Keep people distracted and tired when there are issues of actual importance to attend to as a race/species.

[@21phive]

Remember this is the guy who compared trump to hitler and now is trying to be his running mate

[@justinpedersen9519]

Domestic Violence is going to skyrocket with something like this. Terrible move.

[@shelbyonehalf]

Smart women won't get married. 4b is just starting here.

[@conorflynn6666]

Conservatives want that

[@theBear89451]

I can't believe this has any thumbs up. Domestic violence is grounds for divorce, so fault.

[@FNLNFNLN]

@@shelbyonehalf Don't worry, the next step is making it illegal for women to work or open bank accounts without a husband's permission.

[@FNLNFNLN]

@@theBear89451 "Hi, my buddy the cop investigated and found no evidence of abuse, therefore, no divorce" You're making the same kind of BS excuse as the forced birth advocates insisting "don't worry, you can still get abortions if the life of the mother is in danger"

[@jefflayton153]

They are exposing how undateable they are

[@cierralowery7096]

Love should always be freely given, it is a choice. Remove choice and it is not love

[@19Marksman79]

Some women choose to marry for financial security. Is that love?

[@KidKID-sv8sv]

​@@19Marksman79What about men that marry a woman just because she's hot. Is that love.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

I think people need to know the sensation of chosen before to understand that. The difference between trying to convince someone to like you vs someone liking you out of nowhere.

[@19Marksman79]

@@KidKID-sv8sv that's lust. It's not love. with financial security, it's not love either, it's being a gold digger.

[@KidKID-sv8sv]

@@19Marksman79Exactly. Both men and women can have their own selfish reasons for getting married. Hold both genders accountable, not just women.

[@MiguelPerez-zx2wg]

They should realized no fault divorce help lower spouse murder case.

[@GuiltySpark347]

That’s nonsense. No fault means divorce for no reason at all. Abuse is a legitimate reason for divorce whether it’s for men or women

[@MiguelPerez-zx2wg]

@GuiltySpark347 dude look at the spouse murder rate before and after no fault divorced. But also why did you get married in the first place.

[@connnnnnor]

@@GuiltySpark347 and every conservative wants to end that too. they think battering women is cool as long as the woman isn't jewish

[@IonSquared]

​@GuiltySpark347 Banning no fault divorce makes it much harder for women to leave abusive relationships, and the abuser can drag out the legal process much longer. This is simply about wanting to control women bruh.

[@TravelLoverForLife]

​@@MiguelPerez-zx2wgOk, now look at the male suicide rate

[@biscuitNmusterd]

As a divorcee from VA I can say that no fault divorce is absolutely essential to living a healthy life

[@bobbun4369]

What a meaningless comment

[@indiigo14]

​@@bobbun4369Your existence is meaningless.

[@davidlane1248]

​@@dsgantzerlol people never change. EVER. YOU SHOULD BE LOCKED IN WITH ME IF YOU SAY "I DO" BECAUSE I'M NOT A CONTROLLING ASSHOLE HOW DARE YOU ASSUME I MIGHT TURN INTO ONE

[@Helios--]

@@davidlane1248 No see, if other adults don't think and live _the exact same way they do_ than they're wrong and should feel bad lol. Fascistic control freaks the lot of them.

[@raylemar2386]

@@bobbun4369 , meant something to you, because you took the time to read and comment. And check back after notifications.

[@AZ-hg6kw]

Crowder's "pregnant" wife, btw. In a relationship with ONE fucking car.

[@nonenone5387]

Also let's be real they have one car when he is a multi millionaire. He chose the problem. If he can turn down 20 million he could have bought his wife a Honda Civic.

[@trappedinamerica7740]

That’s for control reasons.

[@SteveStevens-uv2px]

Can't she buy a fucking car?

[@meewec2091]

@@SteveStevens-uv2px she probably didn't have access to money unless he allowed it.

[@07Flash11MRC]

@@SteveStevens-uv2px She's providing him with kids and domestic labor. he can buy her a car for that.

[@jarvisaustin6955]

You should be able to leave, but not also with my money.

[@bobbun4369]

So what’s the point of making g commitments if you can just break them for any reason?

[@jarvisaustin6955]

@bobbun4369 ask women who leave 70% of the time for no reason and takes half his retirement and alimony depending on the situation.

[@jarvisaustin6955]

@bobbun4369 just woke up one day and didn't love you anymore. So I'm leaving. That happens OFTEN. I won't say child support because you need to take care of your kids anyway, but supporting someone who walked away from you is WILD

[@bobbun4369]

@@jarvisaustin6955did you even read my comment??

[@jarvisaustin6955]

@bobbun4369 yes. And the fact that you think it's ok to make someone stay with you by law is so asinine I decided to ignore it. Commitment is fine, but there is a thing of not loving someone anymore. Why would u want a woman who don't love you

[@ajkulac9895]

I called this yesterday 🤣Next up: contraceptives ban. Nothing new, this is straight out of Catholic Church playbook, now copied by American conservatives.

[@RobertGuilman]

They're probably aiming for the 20th century Ireland divorce law, where its ILLEGAL to divorce your spouse

[@DavidWerking]

You keep scraping your uterus you're going to become infertile anyway (PID) problem solved but how do you really feel about it? How are you defining this as strictly catholic? Confession booths? Masses in Latin as part of the court hearing? Please be honest.

[@Ahzathoth]

The red pill and MGTOW communities have wanted this since 2014 and probably earlier.

[@19Marksman79]

If a wife has a child, that's not the husband's, then he wouldn't be legally required to pay alimony or child support after he divorces her. I am all for this bill becoming law.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

@@19Marksman79 the fact that this would even be controversial is mind blowing, it's unbelievable that men are being forced to financially support bastard children from their cheating wives.

[@elmoworld850]

I understand that MGTOW wanted no fault divorce to be abolished because they don't want to pay for alimony. I don't know why they want women to be shackled to their husbands. I thought that they hate women and want to get away from us.

[@KidKID-sv8sv]

​@@19Marksman79How many times are you going to repeat this comment.

[@FazeParticles]

true i was MGTOW for about 5 years. i'm still pro patriarchy but i'm not MGTOW anymore. but these movements are definitely a threat to progressivism. good.

[@KKFCLIPS]

If it wasn't for no fault divorce , kyle would still be unmarried and with dark hair 😂❤😅...jk

[@MC-ep8cu]

His dark hair was so much better tho.

[@aSimpleTailor]

Adultery would still be grounds for divorce.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

Doubt that woulda stopped them, prob would just made it hotter actually.

[@tinkleshartzinpants4221]

This guy literally lied the entire video, propaganda

[@GuitarBrew]

This might totally kill marriage. But marriage is doing a pretty good job of that on its own.

[@kethanraman944]

I think it cuts in both directions 7:03. There are plenty of cases when a partner is in the wrong(for adultery for example) and files for divorce and then takes 1/2 of the other person's assets. Its not just the case that people want people to stay with each other it is also that people do bad stuff and get away with it and then ruin others lives financially. I am not saying we should not keep no fault divorce but we should probably try to address this other issue rather than pretending it doesn't exist.

[@19Marksman79]

I agree. Why is a person paying alimony to a cheating spouse after the divorce? Why are men ordered by the court to pay child support for a child that is not his? Something needs to be done about these issues. The victim gets punished in these instances. Ridiculous!

[@tomlabarb2640]

This is 100% spot on !!!!!

[@namangoy]

They'd never make an exception for domestic violence, if they got their way they'd probably love to make spousal abuse legal again

[@bobbun4369]

Is making up bs all you have to offer??

[@kalebk9595]

​@@bobbun4369I mean religious conservatives in Russia managed to get it legalized as long as it doesn't result in severe injury or occurs more than once a year

[@bobbun4369]

@@kalebk9595what the piss are you babbling about??

[@belladonna5012]

@@bobbun4369 A contemporary example of a government legalizing spousal ab.se at the behest of religious conservatives.

[@alerian4752]

One possible reason is that a lot of these guys that don't want no fault divorce also believe that their wives are not allowed to tell them no in regards to having sex

[@clarkkent8765]

Or that women shouldn’t be incentivized to cheat and steal your money.

[@musicman9945]

Man I had a peaceful divorce with no fault. It was the best thing for me, my ex-wife and my kids. This is ridiculous

[@DavidWerking]

Cool story bro. Where are the bodies?

[@jules720]

Don't end divorce. End marriage

[@kekistani_meme_farmer7242]

​@@treesoul00 I could never trust the government to decide who can and can't have kids.

[@Ghazghkull_Thraka]

@@treesoul00 yeah tell native people they need a license from the government to have kids. American government have genocide enough people thanks. Preventing people from having kids because they don’t have government permission is actual fascisim.

[@nickthompson1812]

Men are way ahead of you. Why sign a contract with the government that allows your wife to take half of what you have and have clauses like no fault divorce to favor her? Just not worth it. Feminism has ruined dating.

[@luisdavidllense2293]

AMEN!

[@belladonna5012]

@@nickthompson1812 Women are way ahead of men. More women express disinterest in romantic relationships or marriage than men.

[@JackHawkinswrites]

They should be able to leave, the money behind

[@ward1117]

Personally, I would not want to be with a woman I know doesn't want to be with me. Why would any guy or woman want to be with somebody who doesn't want to be with them? It is bad for both parties involved.

[@Laz3rCat95]

You are a reasonable person, but sadly not everyone is. Some people are abusers, gold diggers, etc. and like exploiting others.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

So many people have only ever known coercion. They have never been truly wanted so they lack that sense of security.

[@ward1117]

@@Laz3rCat95 Very true sadly

[@gaberyanstube1]

The chaos is coming from the umbrella of religion.

[@DavidWerking]

what an odd thing to say.

[@SecretumofTruth]

No fault is fine but no alimony unless for good reason.

[@custos3249]

Literally the only intelligent take here.

[@justsomeguy6336]

No alimony AT ALL

[@dennarddancer1960]

No alimony at all. This is the year 2024, and it's time for women to stop mooching off men...!!!

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

@@dennarddancer1960 then don't expect her to have children with you, and if she does, don't expect her to stay home without a career and her own money

[@dennarddancer1960]

@@down-to-earth-mystery-school Who the hell said women have to stay home and raise the kids? Put the kids in daycare, and women can take her asses to work just like their husbands. As a kid growing up, both of my parents worked; there was no "stay at home" mom at my home. ALL of the women in my entire family worked right alongside their husbands, and that's because it took two incomes to make it in middle class America back in the early 1970's. So stop making up excuses. The only reason you women like things the way they are is because it gives you moochers power over men, and THAT'S the ultimate goal...POWER. When men finally get tired of you women screwing over their lives, what do you think will happen? I'll let you marinate on this question...🤔🤔🤔

[@needisaymoore2138]

How do these men not realize that no fault divorce benefits them because then their wife doesn't have to put all their faults out into the streets.

[@brandonfitzgerald-eo3tk]

You keep forgetting these people don't think ahead.They didn't think ahead of the abortion issue and lost so much. And they haven't thought ahead of every time.They try and ban Immigrants in their own state it screws them economically.

[@TheseEyesSeeDarknessClearly7]

What about if a woman cheats, files for divorce, then takes the husband for half his assets? Woman literally get PAID to divorce their husbands.

[@ultimor1183]

Exactly. No-fault doesn’t mean she can’t find fault, she defiantly can. It just means there’s no court case.

[@brandonfitzgerald-eo3tk]

@@needisaymoore2138 prenuptial agreement

[@aSimpleTailor]

Women air that dirty laundry anyways. Do you even date bro?

[@captainloveprod]

It will just make marriage less popular, in the first place

[@kekistani_meme_farmer7242]

Obviously it's too popular anyways since the divorce rate is so high

[@FazeParticles]

isn't that good. most people are not responsible enough for marriage both men and women have proven this. now sure you still got old people holding up the game but they've 10 years left to live if they're lucky. people will just enter LTRs.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

Divorce rate has gone down lol

[@07Flash11MRC]

@@kekistani_meme_farmer7242 "the divorce rate is so high": That's not a bad thing.

[@kekistani_meme_farmer7242]

@@07Flash11MRC Its supposed to be a longer than lifelong commitment.

[@sandrabryant6405]

😂 they want marriage rates to go even lower?

[@mats66]

You think they would hesitate a second from imposing arranged marriages?

[@nickthompson1812]

@@mats66 arranged marriages would work. It’s different from conventional love, but you and your significant other are stuck together; either you make it work or you live in misery forever. People made it work.

[@kekistani_meme_farmer7242]

Low marraige rate + low divorce rate Better than High marriage rate + high divorce rate

[@belladonna5012]

@@nickthompson1812 Arranged marriages wouldn't work here because no one would cooperate with them, and why would they?

[@mats66]

​@@nickthompson1812 Some make it work. Many live in misery. I'd rather not have misery for anyone.

[@DutchVanDerLenin7609]

If restrictions like this existed in 2008, my mother would still be trapped in a loveless marriage with my abusive father. For added context, my mother has her issues as well, numerous issues.

[@DavidWerking]

Truth in a cage! Truth in a cage!

[@07Flash11MRC]

Have you ever considered that being in a loveless marriage cause your mother's issues?

[@Joey-ct8bm]

This is Sharia law.

[@RawiahAlshehri]

Except divorce is actually halal in Islam whether initiated by the wife or the husband.

[@quijybojanklebits8750]

Nope im an atheist and i think it comes down to ones word, marriage is an oath and if you make an oath you should do your work to ensure that oath is worthwhile. Consequences make marriage a decent control on population especially if women have self respect. Showing ones body on onlyfans is a kin to walking around a bar naked for a check, a well payed whoяe is still a whoяe. Tell me the definition of woman and then you have a fucking say.

[@SkyeSage17]

​@@RawiahAlshehri I guess so is stoning... 😮

[@azouitinesaad3856]

it's not sharia law allows you to divorce whenever you want

[@ajkulac9895]

No this is Catholic law. All of these things were banned in Ireland in early 20th century, abortion, gay marriage, divorce, contraceptives. Rules of the Church used to be laws and they really, really want to get that back. Same in my country, we call these people the Catholiban but it's not even funny any more.

[@gertjanvandamme2068]

Astounding that all this happened after steven crowder got divorced

[@jedahn]

You'd be giving him too much credit.

[@gertjanvandamme2068]

@@jedahn nope, it really just got on their radar after the whole crowder debacle. Shows how terminally online the current crop of rightwingers is

[@FazeParticles]

Crowder has pull. his supporters are more extreme than he is. how do i know? because i was in the chat and comments the entire time and we got at least 50% in favor of stricter laws against women. NGL kinda based. patriarchy is based.

[@Ghost-airlines]

Based

[@lastnamefirstname2390]

These people have lost their mind.

[@conorflynn6666]

They need minds to begin with

[@justsomeguy6336]

What is a woman?

[@Joshua-eo5hr]

You have

[@phantomchef2217]

Personally, as a divorcee, my wife filed after things came out. I wouldn't care for the no fault part. But! I think some time to really have couple's therapy to ensure you're serious about each other beforehand. In the forcing thing, I wouldn't force her to stay but the courts force me to pay alimony. Divorce laws make me lose a paycheck every single month.

[@trappedinamerica7740]

Things came out?

[@kekistani_meme_farmer7242]

Alimony makes no sense when women can work too. Should at least get rid of that.

[@phantomchef2217]

@@trappedinamerica7740 irreconocible differences. She had a kid, I didn't.

[@phantomchef2217]

@kekistani_meme_farmer7242 lol judge said cause I made most of the money in our marriage I have to continue paying. Been 10 months. Still waiting to the confirmation of the divorce. Been 9 months. Started paying 9 months ago. Edit for the sake of clarity. Started the process 10 months ago. Been paying and waiting for the confirmation for 9 months. Cause if we're no longer together but for the benefit of the child, my money is good for it.

[@chandlerfelty1284]

@@phantomchef2217she cheated on you and you have to pay alimony? Fuck that. Divorce laws really need to be updated but not like this.

[@danielmikula1375]

Having no faith in finding another person is likely a huge part of it. Society's expectation for masculinity tends to include being completely emotionally isolated except for one's intimate partner, which is all kinds of unhealthy for everyone involved.

[@nomnomm2322]

exactly

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

if men want friendships, they should find ways to initiate them, just like women do.

[@Joshua-eo5hr]

​@@down-to-earth-mystery-schooldumbest comment of the day

[@hlaulis]

This will prevent people who shouldn't be getting married from getting married. Done.

[@crobinson2624]

Okay I’ll say it, “Stop shoving your bad policies down our throats!”

[@terminatorxp2007]

incel behavior

[@knivesmillions2913]

Using that word in the wrong context buddy.

[@kekistani_meme_farmer7242]

What do you think incel means @terminatorxp2007?

[@TheRogueEmpire]

@@knivesmillions2913 incel is a state of mind. context works fine.

[@terminatorxp2007]

involuntarily celibate, pretty self explanatory, nothing wrong with the context

[@kekistani_meme_farmer7242]

@@terminatorxp2007 How many married incels do you know? If they aren't banging than why would they need a no-fault divorce anyways? Isn't "lack of intimacy" good enough for a regular divorce?

[@checo8187]

Easy problem to fix. Dont get married. Pump dump and move on to the next.

[@steveraimee486]

This take is completely disingenuous. It means if you do leave, things like infidelity and abuse count against you in the settlement

[@AlsanPine]

also, granted conservative men are the ones messing with this but let us not forget that women are not all angels either. many divorces are caused by women. let us be really free of sexism and not fall into stupid stereotypes and fall for false dichotomies.

[@dannytheman1313]

We're like a year or two away from Handmaid's Tale like I know that's been said before but we're in the flashback segments

[@j-fo4753]

This will backfire when the reasons for *their* divorces are published. They haven't thought it through, once again.😅😎

[@PromiscuousBoy]

They Like Learnin from Andrew Tate 🤦🏻 If they Cant Love you Force them Still I wonder Somethins A .) Would the Same Apply if the WOMAN had an Affair , can she Force the Man to Stay even if the Man didn’t ?! And 2 .) in a More Logistical Mindset , well I hope Women Learn the Truth of the Republican Party and STOP VOTIN FOR EM alls together

[@kekistani_meme_farmer7242]

If they don't love than they shouldn't have married in the first place

[@kekistani_meme_farmer7242]

They aren't getting rid of divorce completely, affairs are irrelevant to this topic

[@dcc9345]

If these men say they don't need women, why do they need to keep one at their side at all costs?

[@lax4352]

The issue with "no fault divorce" is the government taking half a man's stuff when he didn't break the contract/vow. Either only punish the people who break the contract/vow or get money out of marriage altogether.

[@FazeParticles]

well this would discourage women from marriage so you're wrong.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

It's only love if I'm wanted, not if I'm needed. Need implies coercion

[@JohanDanielsson8802]

Is it the same men, who say "end no fault divorce" who also say they need no women? I would rather assume, that men who say they don´t need women would argue against the institution of marriage altogether. Which a significant number of men clearly do in this comment section.

[@veibz684]

In a few years (and i really wish, this does not happen to you), when Krystal divorces you out of the blue, because she got bored, or she just doesnt feel it anymore, you will think differently about this important law.

[@shawncudjoe9584]

I don't think Kyle understands what no fault divorce means. In Steven Crowder case the wife does have reason to divorce. I personally would not get married if there is no fault divorce.

[@giwingnut8856]

As of 2015, 1 in 8 reported Domestic Abuse cases were men. So, this would effect men as well. Sometimes, divorce saves lives.

[@bobdole3251]

Choose better L holders deserves what they get if they r dmb enough to get married

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

abuse against any gender is wrong. Men should be able to come forward to allege abuse as well

[@TravelLoverForLife]

Kyle should want divorce restrictions given Krystal's relationship history

[@Airith4]

Kyle isn't a piece of garbage is the fault in your calculation.

[@TravelLoverForLife]

@@Airith4 Well, since Krystal reportedly got rich from divorcing one of her prior husbands I suppose perhaps Kyle considers himself a rare male beneficiary of the unjust divorce laws. I think his tune would be different if he was super wealthy and risked having his assets expropriated on the whims of his wife and a family court harpie judge.

[@Airith4]

@@TravelLoverForLife tell me you are out of touch, without telling me you are out of touch.

[@BorgesianDream]

​@@TravelLoverForLifeyou explaining what Kyle should want sounds exactly like how you would treat a spouse. Are you a travel lover because you have to go to a poverty stricken land to find a woman who will tolerate you?

[@christophergreen6595]

​@@TravelLoverForLife you can get pre-nups you freak

[@williechase1]

No religious beliefs should influence policy

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

Is that possible? I feel like people are beholden to their gods before the law.

[@peehi2]

Lol nice clickbait. No fault, can you read?

[@bigreg4096]

I agree with getting rid of no fault divorce. Because it's a hustle for some women. But not all women. My cousin trapped this dude by marrying for his money. She gave him 2 kids on purpose. Stayed with him for 10 years and 6 months and bragged about how she used him for his sperm just to alimony and child support. All along she was with another dude the whole time. She and the other dude live in the house with the kids like one big happy family. Guess who paying for it all you got the ex husband that she never physically was attracted to or even wanted in the first place. She said she use take long shower after sleeping with him because it was so disgusting to her. But she did what she had to do and its better than punching a time clock

[@DavidWerking]

better to her or you?

[@susanelizabeth1724]

The underline message here is I OWN you. I am in charge and I have power and control over you.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

Have you ever been to a wedding. They always say the quiet part out loud.

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

@@banquetoftheleviathan1404 I refused to say obey, and I didn't

[@anneminehart5784]

Then they shouldn't be assholes

[@OBLIVIOUSKARI]

I’m not a red pill dude, but it’s usually the “good” dudes who are complaining they lost their wife, kids, and half their money because “she’s not happy”

[@kingokafor6215]

Women leave good men when they're bored with them, especially if they know they're going to get a big payday

[@SkyeSage17]

This thinking is wrong. The women u know are materialistic. Not all are. 😢

[@kingokafor6215]

@@SkyeSage17 the percentage is high enough to be relevant. All financial gain should be voided in no fault divorce.

[@IntensePeppers]

@@SkyeSage17 His thinking isn't wrong. It happens all the time. The fact that it's a possibility at all in the first place is driving guys away from marriage

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

@@SkyeSage17 it doesn't matter if all of them are, some of them are, and they shouldn't get a free payday just because they were a bad partner.

[@SkyeSage17]

@@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 🤯

[@GeekCredTrivia]

Alot of it has to do with money, a guy could use it as leverage to get a better deal on splitting assets, alimony, and child support by holding it up and not agreeing.

[@TriViuM2k22]

"unfair to men" These "alphas" are so pathetic.

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

the not-alphas more like.

[@vehnashur2771]

I wouldn't want to force someone to stay married with someone. However, if someone chooses no fault divorce because they just want out, they should not be entitled to money from the spouse they left.

[@spicymemes7458]

That's going to be inevitable because of assets and wealth accumulated while together. They allow for joint tax filing, but for divorce, yeah it's messy because you invited the state in.

[@vehnashur2771]

@spicymemes7458 Acquired things definitely. Alimony, spousal support should not happen in no fault divorce.

[@AlexanderSkinnerVids]

If I were married to one of these folks pushing for no more no-fault, I’d be filing for divorce. Promptly.

[@cincinnatias]

Folks are really trying to dismiss the fact that ending no fault divorce stops thieves (women) from marrying just for money and divorcing the husband with no reason at all to collect on all that she awarded from him in the divorce from simply acknowledging to the judge that there are "irreconcilable differences." Now she would have to prove that the husband is at fault in order recieve monetary gain. You folks are really weird

[@nocheckmarkgames]

Another Great reason to just not get Married, LoL.

[@kingokafor6215]

What they should've done was end alimony and 50/50 split. With the exception of custody which should be automatic shared custody

[@augustodelerme7233]

Yes!

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

@@kingokafor6215 I agree, our current position with divorce is absolutely insane and needs to be changed, but I don't think no fault divorce is the problem, the problem is bad spouses making out like bandits through a corrupt system that encourages and rewards that behavior. If we take that incentive away, no fault divorce would dramatically decrease, and even in cases where couples do want to divorce for no tangible reason, so what? It's only harmful if someone is unjustly financially destroyed, like what happens so often.

[@margaretjohnson6259]

so the woman who is a trad wife leaves with nothing, not even the clothes on her back.

[@kingokafor6215]

@@margaretjohnson6259 all those women leave with money

[@margaretjohnson6259]

@@kingokafor6215 she put her life on the line having babies, did unpaid 24/7 labor in the home, put up with a king baby spouse. why shouldn't she walk away with half. she contributed more than half to the marriage.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

Kyle underestimates how much of his audience is lonely single dudes.

[@EVIL-C]

Stop projecting. If you're lonely, make yourself more appealing, without resorting to controlling women. That's why they don't like you, boy.

[@nbaldo003]

single or not why would you want to force someone to be with you? if you’re a bad partner they should have the ability to leave you.

[@EVIL-C]

Lonely dudes, like you. Classic projection, lol. 🤡

[@Ifoughtpiranhas]

That's pretty much every dude subscribed to MGTOW channels.

[@EVIL-C]

@@strandedstarfish He can't, because he's a serial abuser who tries to control women. He fails because he's a dick, yet blames them for everything. He sounds just like my far-right uncle, who ended up losing his mind.

[@Kiwiakatarawa]

Just don't get married!

[@dalegg66]

Hell yes. Get rid of it. The only way I can see a man supporting no fault divorces is that he’s never been through a divorce.

[@cpnd]

That's why I like you Kyle. You are based.

[@justsomeguy6336]

Leftism is not based

[@RobertGuilman]

​@@justsomeguy6336nah, wokism is cringe, lerftism is based as fuk

@@justsomeguy6336 Neither is the right.

[@benjaminkilmer]

The point of this isn’t to force a woman to stay it’s to change the laws so if she leaves for no good reason she doesn’t get rewarded for it

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

she doesn't even need a reason, if she doesn't want to stay, she doesn't have to. She is a damn adult.

[@nUmBskulLL]

Just stop giving people half of other peoples money for no reason. Keep the divorce tho. Fuck being stuck in a marriage with some lunatic. But you dont get half of the lunatics stuff!

[@dennarddancer1960]

Now this is the best damn comment I've read thus far that sounds sensible. Hell, if women can't take shit after divorcing a man, they don't have a reason to get married...!!!!

[@19Marksman79]

I am all for at fault divorce if alimony is canceled in the event one spouse cheats on the other.

[@G.Bfit.93]

This is a good policy

[@nomnomm2322]

i agree

[@BigBrotherGnE]

Christofascism at its finest. This is absolutely abhorrent and i live in one of thosr deplorable places.

[@chrisgross2043]

I'm surprised that they didn't say that only men can seek a divorce

[@DavidWerking]

why?

[@1OnlyGot7]

Literally no one is saying that lol

[@andyd568]

Current divorce laws are anti-men tbh.

[@spicymemes7458]

Anti-shitty ones maybe?

[@deanrao4805]

Steven Crowder, J.D. Vance, Matt Walsh endorse this? Well then, enough said.

[@lotusson]

So they want biblical marriage? Got it.

[@Mrmedia046]

I’m not a fan of no fault divorce. But doing something like this will be no good for anyone involved. Making wives prisoners in their own homes is not the way to win hearts and minds. But look at my dumb ass. Hoping they actually give a shit about winning anything but absolute power.

[@DavidWerking]

Shouldn't have touched the AC.

[@mblazin1532]

I can care less about divorce because I'm never getting married. Marriage isn't about love it's a business transaction.

republican women are cool with this too? so weird

[@WalesTheTrueBritons]

Now I’m pro life but this goes beyond insane! The idea that you can force women to be with people they don’t want to be with is Dark age sort of thinking.

[@macosauruscheese8766]

Lmao, so is forcing them to give birth

[@azouitinesaad3856]

​@@macosauruscheese8766 so is forcing a man to pay child support for a child he didn't want.

[@trappedinamerica7740]

@@azouitinesaad3856that will happen a lot more without abortion

[@shelbyonehalf]

@@azouitinesaad3856 How about you keep your pickle in your pants or at least used birth control.

[@azouitinesaad3856]

@@trappedinamerica7740 if the woman decided to keep the baby he will be forced to do it.

[@mikerotonda6264]

I never was in favor of the state being involved in a marriage... I still don't agree with it.....the state in my opinion should have no say on a persons private relationship matters

[@Ghost-airlines]

Next step: men pay for kids that aren’t their in marriage, cause you’re automatically the father if you’re married…..wait that already IS a reality and alot of women do this, nevermind 😊

[@craigbrowning9448]

I could imagine them forcing single people to get married whether they are in love or not.

[@DavidWerking]

I could imagine a fancy cigar smoking a pot of corned beef hash. Isn't imagination wonderful?

[@bruceleeroy8302]

My issue is when the spouse (often the woman, but not always) wants a no fault divorce and wants the ex-spouse to still support them financially after the divorce. That is bs. if you want out, you shouldn't still get paid. That's like quitting a job and expecting them to pay you.

[@Nun195]

Did you fall on your head?

[@bruceleeroy8302]

@@Nun195 no, your mom was much gentler with me than she was with you! 🤣

[@dcc9345]

You don't divorce kids. You're responsible for them forever. Don't like it? don't have them.

[@bobdole3251]

@@Nun19580% of divorces initiated by females no fault only serves them is that fair?

[@kethanraman944]

@@dcc9345 That still applies even without kids though.

[@VogtTD]

My issue with no fault divorce is that it rewards cheating and other shitty behavior. You can cheat on your husband for years, commit paternity fraud, and still get half the assets while also collecting child support. Or take my ex for example. She was a deadbeat stay at home (no kids) for 13 years, contributing almost nothing financially. If she had asked the judge for it (she didn't, thankfully) she could have forced me to sell the house and ruined me financially for the rest of my life. As awful as she treated me in the divorce, thankfully I was able to convince her that her taking half the home value would have been tantamount to theft (my dad put up the down payment and I made all the mortgage payments)

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

This also happens to women. My name was the only one on our house because my ex couldn't be bothered to work for the last 6 years of our marriage, while I put him through school, worked a full-time job and went to college myself. So tired of men making all women out to be gold diggers, when we aren't.

[@CharlesLee-es8jr]

Childless Cat Dude! 😂😂😂

[@travishylton6976]

Your new vice president called your cult leader the next Hitler back in 2016

[@augustodelerme7233]

This is how you fix the problem the goverment should pay 100,000 to couples to have kids if a divorce happens no child support the state will take care of the child and no alimony and no 50/50 split.

[@NanaelSoloer]

So, in order to divorce yourself, you MUST have an affair. That's funny.