Requiem for Vengeance Surprised Me [Spoiler-Free]

[@kakarot197]

I really liked Heaton.

[@nitev4407]

Dude I initially thought that was you....

[@GBStudio0]

Heaton is amazing, but honestly Alfee and Leesean are my favorites

[@androyus]

LeSean ma boi.

[@GaiaGaiyus]

I recommend you rewatch the series in German. I found the voice acting of the German version was somehow a lot more cohesive with the emotional tone that the series was aiming for.

[@kenjiKoroko_ENVtuber]

I feel like if it had 2 studios one for the gundam and one for the human sprites. Might have better or easier to watch it more

[@RedHornSSS]

Lmao the ending is indeed a wtf > I have a child in space > Imma stay on earth and play guerilla warfare

[@icdeadpipol]

reminds me of Thalia Gladys abandoning her son in favor of being crushed with her lover.

[@RedHornSSS]

@@icdeadpipol I don't remember this exactly since SD is so far back, did Gladys yapped about her often?

[@HMSleifer94]

​@@RedHornSSS yep she mentioned her kid a few times during the show, but hey her ex was more important. Mother of the year

[@RedHornSSS]

@@HMSleifer94 dang. Wahmen

[@JohnnyBurnes]

I initially thought her kid was dead already, and she was putting on a face. As the show went on, I guess not. :/ I guess she's "fighting for a better future" for her kid, but eh.

[@Sta_cotto]

The extreme irony of joining remnant groups in Africa is that there's really only three known ones; the forces that carried out Operation Stardust, Desert Rommel's team, and any leftovers during the Laplace incident who went to Torrington. The first leads to more genocide, the second gets murked by a bunch of kids (oof), and the last ends up just being more wanton slaughter before dying for nothing.

[@rogue_newtype4364]

She went to join the base from 0083 but probably moved on before operation stardust if they are going to continue her story

[@DIEGhostfish]

Desert Rommel doesn't reach africa until after the entire war ends, before that he was in Australia. She apparently reached Africa in November, so Zeon isn't TECHNICALLY a remnant for 2 more months. She may still respect the surrender.

[@justincholos.balisang6884]

Remnants can be a lot of things, they could be just survivors trying to live another day while stuck on Earth, wether they'll become terrorists or not is up for speculation as well.

[@jaderabbit898]

Oh, but it gets even worse before she even started. Because remember, the Guinea Pig team was sweeping Zeon remnants after Operation Odessa and so there's a high chance she might be killed by the Blue Destiny 1 before making it to Africa.

[@cdyjv118]

She also couldve joined Midnight Fenrir as they stayed on Earth after Odessa until the war ended. That was a nice bit of fan service including that faction for us longtime Zeonic Front fans

[@SenshiSam]

> Zeon would never try this again > Gato enters the chat Also, I really dislike there's no Sieg Zeon on the whole show.

[@JediSSJ1]

Would have been hilarious if they had really played up the Zeon troops as the good guys more ham-fistedly at the very beginning, right up until the lead guy ends his speech with a "Sieg Zeon!" and salute. Would love to see people who don't know anything about Gundam reacting to thinking these guys are clearly the good guys when suddenly Nazi salute.

[@RexMidnem9976]

Considering this is a western audience focus show, and the fact their really went for a more human and tragic side of Zeon soldiers. It makes sense no one says it.

[@SenshiSam]

People after watching Netflix Gundam, let's see more a about this universe. - 10 minutes later - "They're not even subtle about it, isn't?"

[@cdyjv118]

None of the characters were Zeon zealots or aristocrats like the Zabis or Ral. They were basic units doing their duty and just wanted it to be over

[@SenshiSam]

@@cdyjv118 And yet she joined the extremist.

[@blackbird7781]

In their future they are gonna quite literally kill those they swore to protect via operation stardust

[@CrazyPlatinum92]

Or Unicorn probably the one that got lost on along the way.

[@DIEGhostfish]

It doesn't dpecify if she just stayed in Africa the 2 months till the surrender or if she stayed after.

[@dmf4254]

Oh my God someone finally agrees to me. How the feck at the end does she say that she wants to go back home to see her kid but then immediately after she got the Gundam killed she’s like yeah you know what I’m gonna stay and fight and don’t go back to space. It sounds like she’s just trying to duck child support.

[@GundamExplained]

Because she's a Zeon through and through.

[@dmf4254]

@@GundamExplained spacenoids man

[@ivanj46]

I saw someone said that it might've been for the better. Otherwise, there's a chance she might not survive A Baoa Qu. I don't know tho, I'm not exactly an expert in UC lore.

[@justincholos.balisang6884]

​@@ivanj46that was me and my main point there is to prolong her chances of survival, long enough to get her back to Side 3 or see her son again. It's speculation of course but you can't dismiss the possibility of dying in space, a much more horrible fate than dying on Earth imo.

[@JoshuaVariell]

Squeal Bait? Feels unnecessary to me.

[@MSGSlayer1]

In my opinion, they should've kept Not-Amuro's identity secret until the final battle. That the Zeon only saw the white giant trying to kill them and not the boy forced to pilot it added to the show's element of terror. And his last-minute revelation, regardless of his ultimate fate, would've been what breaks Solari, like that Zanscare pilot from Victory Gundam.

[@darkhorse744]

@@MSGSlayer1 How would she see the boy's face?

[@MSGSlayer1]

@@darkhorse744 Instead of the Gouf impaling the Gundam, Solari could've cut into the cockpit with her heat hawk, just enough to see the pilot inside. Gundam characters do that all the time.

[@sadierobotics]

​@@darkhorse744newtype magic

[@Barkbatosu]

@@MSGSlayer1would have made it more impactful but would have been stupid if she beat it. The fact it got one shot the way it did was slightly silly anyway. There’s definitely ways it could have been done and I think your way is better; but I see why they did it. It humanised the kid a bit and made it hurt more when he died.

[@Gadlight]

the author said his favorite gundam show was Victory, so probably that was the intention he was going after.

[@spartan576]

Gouf custom chads simply cannot stop winning.

[@dannyrodriguez9966]

If this is cannon to the original timeline of the universal century, that means she would’ve died in the events of stardust memory if she didn’t get to her son in time, honestly this should’ve ended with her reuniting to her son and becoming a reporter

[@yuzeles]

i dont think it is, honestly due the worst back to space chapter of any zeon side stories lots of stuff lacking

[@kahniceay0]

I 100% agree. I loved the show overall for what it was, but the ending was... just confusing. Its like someone sat down and wrote 95% of that episode with the rest of the team. Then they all got up to get coffee and someone else sat down and scribbled in the last bits. it was too damn much of a disconnect from the rest.

[@arashitendou5941]

So like many Shonen manga Great story throughout, most of the time, REALLY questionable endings That can be confusing, barely acceptable, or just plain bad

[@androyus]

Talia Gladys: "I left my beloved son to die with my ex boyfriend who I broke up with for said son to begin with." Iria Solari: "Hold my Heat Hawk..."

[@marcosdheleno]

in talia's defense, she at least went that way out of the heat of the moment top stay with the man she loved. and everything was done and over in less than an hour. Iria had time to think things through, and made that decision out of nowhere.

[@arashitendou5941]

Talia also has two factors in her favor besides that: First because Seed had to make us feel more pity for Coordinators, Destiny added the caveat that only bodily compatibility Coordinators can have kids, even if you don’t even know your compatible partner Which was the case with Talia, she love Durandal but they were incompatible to have any kids so she had to leave him to have one with her arranged husband ….as if Destiny wasn’t already throwing in more Deus Ex crap, cause that brings to question if Kira’s “Perfect” nature means he’s not got that issue or not, and we are never told this detail will affect the main cast’s pairings outside of Mu and Murrue The second factor is Durandal playing manipulator with EVERYONE throughout Destiny even her which no one realizes till Terminal started messing around and he pulled his assassination attempt on Lacus and her double HE MADE

[@lucasgoncalves1390]

Funny fact is she could return to space if she wanted, cuz the Goufs pilots were talking in the end with some other Zaku pilots, and they ended saying a Zazimbar was waiting for them before take off to space (while I genuinely think she would die in A Baoa Qu battle if she returned to space, I still hated the reason they gave us for her to join the Zeon Remnants)

[@Barkbatosu]

They didn’t give us a reason. Her logic is unreasonable they gave us a through line to a potential sequel that Netflix will inevitably make that will suck. Like they did with several series that required one season only.

[@lucasgoncalves1390]

@@Barkbatosu yeah, unfortunately

[@bcom693]

It's possible that the Zanzibar class ship that the gouf pilots were discussing was the Kergeren in 08th MS team. In which case, those pilots probably died when it got blown up by a GM Sniper in response to a certain idiot violating a temporary cease fire.

[@lucasgoncalves1390]

@bcom693 you have a nice point bro, so yeah, in order to expand her history, she would remain in earth anyway. Just needed a better reason for that

[@holyordersol2668]

@@bcom693The Kergeren was located in South East Asia, wasn’t it?

[@BigWired]

Of all the things this series did, and did successfully, was to show the absolute horror of fighting a war where office building sized mechs were stomping around. In the escape, the Gundam is out there like a slasher horror villain, like Jason Voorhees, and it's scary because they don't even need the weapons, they can just step on you. This was strengthened by the amazing audio of the series, which made the weapons of the mobile suits sound large and heavy, like they took it off a World War 2 heavy battleship. It also did a great job of showcasing just how strong and ahead in terms of tech the Gundam was compared to the Zaku. Not ridiculously so, as the Solias was able to hold her own against the Gundam quite well, but enough so that this thing was a beast. That first beam shot stunned me, absolutely FLOORED me because yeah, the beam rifle IS that powerful, and seeing it shoot through a zaku and a whole building before blowing up a hill was frightening. Finally, for as bad as that ending was, I did love that we had a series where we followed adults around instead of teenagers. I understand the anime is a shounen and thus aimed at that demographic, but I'm 46 years old, so I like watching shows with people around my age more now. That, and to have it centered around a female protagonist who is a mom, a musician, who i struggling not to lose herself in this war made for a great character to follow.

[@aPopcap]

i think one thing that hit me majorly... the Jason Vorhees moments, where it stared menacingly... tormenting and playing with the soldiers and such, seemingly prolonging finishing it's prey.. was actually just the pilot grappling with if it was okay to do or such, questioning their actions and being trouble by their conscience... but we only usually see that from the pilot's perspective.. but we got those moments from the people who are at the mercy of the gundam

[@wingshad0w00982]

Honestly Requiem for Vengeance is pretty solid. The ending is rather *eh* but its not awful, and fits into the cannon. But everything else was between 'pretty solid' and 'hella neat'. I liked it a lot.

[@SoladB]

I liked that all mobile suits could actually hold their own, when in hand to hand combat, and the GM’s actually got a chance to shine

[@Gadlight]

still, that GM was a bit suped up, its designation its GM-EX, just like the gundam, probably they were designed to work as a team of 3 GM-EX and as a vanguard the Gundam-EX

[@holyordersol2668]

⁠@@GadlightAgreed. The GM EX suits took FAR more damage than any normal GMs in previous works. The first one that appeared got shot with a Zaku Tank cannon shell and dozens upon dozens of 110mm Zaku Machinegun rounds without losing even a limb. Then the GM EX hijacked by the engineer guy was shot by the Gundam EX’s **beam rifle** and i didn’t penetrate through the suit. Overall, durability of the Federation mobile suits was wildly suped up, even the Gundam EX, who was able to eat bazooka shells without either the shield or its armor taking any damage; while the OG Gundam is shown to take damage from explosive rounds and regularly lose its shield to bazookas.

[@mechapunch]

I felt like if there were a few more episodes or if the episodes were a little longer, they could have (and should have) ironed out Solaris' motivations more. I agree the ending was super abrupt, and we don't feel the sense of why she feels she and the Gundam should stop fighting. Where did her change in view come from? I would say though, and I'm trying to think why I feel this way, I do like how we never really seem to learn the Gundam pilot's name.

[@Thabooka]

its just a 1 hour 45 minutes movie cut into 6 - 20 min episodes

[@tylerdeskins1397]

Literally one extra line about the Republic of Zeon leaving the Earth Attack Force remnants out to dry in the treaty, or even rumors of the Federation Newtype Labs screening surrendering Zekes and black bagging anyone with potential would have made that ending at least somewhat work.

[@Sa3vis]

Why though? There is still two months left in the war with Zeon's major battle in Africa still about to occur

[@austinhuitrado6819]

The ending aside Because I agree full hearted that she is either on that High Grade Copium or she huffed some Jet Fuel too many times (Or those fumes from the Zaku Cockpit earlier those can't be good for you). I think this movie gave us Two to three things. 1. Fantastic CGI Realistic Robot fight scenes. With a even better idea of how it could look 'realistically'. It's why I appreciate MS:IGLOO. 2. A better understanding of how it must feel to be in a Zaku when *SUDDENLY* Beam Rifle. That was my favorite because of the suddenness of it. 3. More Goufs. Didn't get to see my boys the Doms, but all the Gouf customs? Loved it. Overall it gave me a similar feeling that The 8th MS Team did when I watched it on Toonami in elementary. Loved it. But this? This is a good step for CGI Gundam things. Can it be better? Of course! But overall? I think this is solid. Especially after Gundam REDACTED from 199X. Can't wait to see your review on the RX-78 [G] Gundam EX! Cause OH BOY!!! Toss another Gundam on this list of OYW Gundams! Does this also make it more cannon since it is in a visual media form of cinematic?

[@marcosdheleno]

my biggest gripe with point 2 is that, war in the pocket exist. and it did that really well.

[@Plaprad]

I've huffed more JP-8 than is healthy for any human. That's not it. Sounds like she found some funny looking mushrooms in the forest.

[@KionKamon]

@@marcosdhelenothe Alex didn’t use the beam rifle though as it was always inside a space colony. Beam sabers were used, and so were the hidden Gatling guns.

[@marcosdheleno]

@@KionKamon and that gatling melted the kaempfer just as quickly as a beam rifle would. also, the gatling used AP rounds, which would pierce pretty much anything not using luna titanium/gundarium.

[@arashitendou5941]

@@marcosdhelenodo note the Kampfer is a hit and run unit with lighter armor That’s part of the reason he gets to ANNIHILATE a seeming crack squad using high grade suits without ANY damage and so quickly only to get annihilated in return by Alex Not helping is said stomping of Feddies was to explain his resorting to close in attack with a single beam saber since he burned out ALL his other weapons on said “Elite” Squad and his single chain mines on the Chobum Armor

[@midknightfenerir]

I think Zeon Remnants she is referring to at the end are Zeon soldiers and Mobile Suit Pilots who were either left or trapped on earth after there escape from earth in Odessa during Earth Federation operation. the war is still continuing in space but she can't join them in space since they have no ships or HLVs left anymore unless they want to hijack and hitch a ride on federation ship which could make good 12 episode Gundam series.

[@marcosdheleno]

if that's the case, they goofed hard by name dropping the remnants, as that a VERY specific infamous group. they could've done it far better. they had the time. they could just done what you said, have her talk about how ironic it was that her fight was over, but her only way out and the only way she could go back to her child would be to go with the people still wanting to keep the fight going, since that's the only route that could let her escape.

[@midknightfenerir]

@@marcosdheleno I always thought Zeon Remnants is a general term for all Zeon Guerrilla Groups that are operating on earth and Space. All leftover Zeon groups that were fighting on earth and space only became the remnants after Zeon surrendered and signed the peace treaty with the federation. There are many Zeon Remnant groups operating on earth and space some working together and many others working independently with whatever resources they have. Yes I agree that Show did a terrible Job at the end with name dropping “Zeon Remnants” since the war is still going on so technically they are still the soldiers of the Principality of Zeon not rebels. She is just operating with a leftover Zeon unit in Africa and her ending speech was also dumb and didn’t make much sense.

[@marcosdheleno]

@@midknightfenerir the thing is, that term is used for the people that kept the fight going after the war was over.

[@ArlindoBuriti]

You can't use "the remnants" if she is not a retard that keep fighting after the war ended, to me she is just coping hard and at the end of the day she is just another Zeon crazy.

[@cyruschu9225]

I really enjoyed Requiem for Vengeance quite a bit, because we actually get to see how much of a nightmare Gundams and their technological superiority are for regular Zeon soldiers (or whatever faction they are fighting against, depending on the series), which is a perspective we rarely get to see in the Gundam series.

[@waldorfthepig1431]

“That we rarely get to see” brother did you watch 0079 at all? Was Char panicking and retreating after being evenly matched in combat by an actual child with around 15 minutes of flight time not enough for you?

[@marcosdheleno]

@@waldorfthepig1431 not only that, but fighting the gundam is such a minor thing in the overall war. if anything, series like MSIGLOO do a much better job at showing what it was like for zeon grunts. with them going overboard with nonsensical "super machines" and the politics from the development of such. hell, the first part of seed, while they are in space goes really hard in that aspect. with us seeing how brutally effective ms are against ships and fighters. and then zaft gets their hands on gundams, and it just turns into a literal massacre. if anything, in the original series, the gundam wasnt that special. it almost got destroyed multiple times. and by zeta, they are just slightly more mobile suits(pun intended). finally, it was only at the end of the oyw that the gundam really became infamous for zeon. after it got its magnetic coating joints, that gave it more mobility. and zeon being just a bunch of badly trained kids pushed out fast from boot camp.

[@Gadlight]

@@marcosdheleno also, you gotta consider that oyw the communication aspects of the war were really scarse, because of minovsky particles shenanigans. Some people though there was only one gundam slaying everyone everywhere, some thought there were mass producing gundams (good psychological warfare tactic used by the feds when introducing the ground gundam, who was more like a suped up GM than anything) so, the mere thought you were facing something even resembling a gundam made zeon panic

[@darkhorse744]

@@waldorfthepig1431 Did the Gundam ever scare you when you were watching 0079? Cus I can tell you it never scared me.

[@darkhorse744]

@@cyruschu9225 Definitely, other series usually talk about it, but this one was the only one that made me actually scared whenever it appeared. I was extra terrified when it appeared with the GM. Never thought I'd say that.

[@noranomics]

Gosh what a tragic thing to happen to her. It sucks that her only choice to keep fighting for her ideals was her getting roped in with blood thirsty killers. You know, if only there was a place she could go where ex-Zeons who wanted peace could go. Like if only there was a group which wanted political change but also wanted to achieve it as peacefully as possible could go, where her piloting talents would be put to good use. If only there was some kind of ANTI EARTH UNION GROUP out there she could join. Oh well too bad that will never happen

[@marcosdheleno]

right? you know, the worst part, all they needed to do, was force her hand, into joining the remnants because she has no way out of the planet. and them being her only choice of not ending up into a military prison or something of the sort.

[@darkhorse744]

@@noranomics Do they actually exist yet? Could she actually go to them even if they did? How is she going to find out about them?

[@lucasurquiza554]

@@darkhorse744 no, they don’t. I’m not sure when they were founded, but certainly it was after the Titans, which was three years later. Still, they could have had a prologue that mentions her joining the AEUG or Karaba later instead of joining the remnants now.

[@wasdwazd]

I'm headcanoning that she fell out with the remnants and joined AEUG.

[@darkhorse744]

@@wasdwazd That definitely seems likely. Depends on how extreme they are, I can see her leaving if she can't abide with them any more. But this is UC though, so she might wind up dead in a tragic encounter with some kids or even Amuro or another Fed Ace. Hope that doesn't happen though.

[@SoladB]

I wish they atleast mentioned the other stuff from the war more clearly, like the colony drop, because it makes the Zeon soldiers seem purely like the good guys of the war.

[@marcosdheleno]

i said this before, but MSIGLOO pulled off the" the war through the eyes of a grunt enemy soldier", while also starting the series with operation british, and the people in the ship condemning zeon's actions as despicable. it also never stopped showing how, even though the zeon army had many good people, zeon was not above doing atrocities and forcing literal children into the fight.

[@Gadlight]

when i said that i didnt like this show because of the glorification of zeon (again) people didnt understand me, but i think a lot more people got that point across. Zeon started the war with a big crime against humanity itself and that justifies everything that came after that for them. True, the job of a soldier its to obey orders, but even in real life WW2 (which OYW is inspired) lots of regular german army forces the more the war became a lost cause tried to stop the bloodshed in different instances, it was the other more "extreme" group that kept the suffering up until the very end of the war.

[@arashitendou5941]

@@Gadlightnot helping is the overly humanization of certain antagonists Dozed is given his scenes with his family and all his positive interacts pre-Big Zam battle But then there’s all the post stuff showing HE directed Operation British torn into multiple surviving pilots for there anger over being duped regarding what happened (like Cima) or questioning the point of it like Ral Gato gets obnoxious levels in my opinion even though he’s shown to be almost nothing but a pawn to Gihren loyalists even though he was a Dozel one Basically saying, to me, he’s a great soldier and leader, but sucks when it comes to picking who he should be loyal to Also writing sucks in that regard because where suppose to have some positive opinions on Gato though he’s ultimately just another war criminal and only got in good because he had Delza backing him for the major Gihren loyalists at Axis While Cima had none of this and was made a scapegoat with no one defending her but SHE’S the bad one of the bunch because she “turned her back” on Zeon Regardless of any prior reason for her to have ANY prior loyalty after being so aggressively screwed over

[@joshiditesservellonacles7819]

I, for one really liked it a lot. It was very captivating, the story was interesting, the Characters that we got to know were likeable but, yeahhh. That last part didn't make sense. She literally could've dropped the whole thing and gone home to raise her son so that he doesn't end up like the Gundam pilot and by not doing so it kind of makes her a selfish person and neglectful mother

[@fanofeverythingsinglething1000]

FINALLY SOMEONE TALKS ABOUT THE DUMBASS ENDING like I kind of get where she’s coming from but at the same time the entire series, she talks about how she wants to go back home and be with her kid and then proceeds to stay on earth to be a part of a Zeon remnant group it genuinely feels like they had no idea what they wanted to do for the end of the series so they just came up with that last minute. I felt like they could’ve kept the pilot of the Gundam the very end so then it would have more shock value, but it kind of killed me inside when I called it being a kid (I don’t know the suit was giving me pale rider vibes lmao) but yeah, the show was like a five out of 10 for me

[@JC-cv3up]

I thought the ending was stupid too! So the bish got him killed after making a sob story about going back home to her son and then the bish goes back to war to continue her stupidity! Lesson learned. Never listen to woman’s soldier sob story because she will get you killed 😑

[@marcusbarboza7805]

Can some of y’all take a step back for a sec. The ending made sense. It make sense she joined the Zeon remnants because 1) like other soldiers, she was abandoned along with other zeon soldiers on earth. The Earth Fed closed the door to space, how was he going to get home? As a soldier, she’s suppose to surrender to the Feds hoping they let her go home, really? 2) she stated she’ll stay behind to prevent anymore child soldiers (her success is questionable). 3) For the OP, Gundam Origins already showed that Zeons demanded independence, the Feds cracked down and found out. The Zaku (new tech) gave them the edge until the Fed threw the Gundam at them.

[@jbkillinem2360]

The war wasnt over when she joined the remnants. The whole space battle arc is still going on. Shes basically stranded on earth and meets up with the only zeon forces left who were abandoned as they were getting no further orders or supplies. Im sure season 2 is going to be her realizing how bloodthirsty the remnants are, because theres no way she would know that ahead of time

[@fernadogonzalez2940]

O yeah by that point she is one of the few zeon pilots who isn’t a psychopath (at least on earth) they most likely want to show the bad side of zeon next season

[@juliusd3th3r4t7]

I dont think we need a season 2 , we already can picture her fate literally sleeping in the dirt

[@sadierobotics]

If the war isn't over then they're not remnants.

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

Hope it's something like that and she heads home safe. Maybe missing an arm or something. This series is nice about how few get away without physical and paychological damage.

[@cdyjv118]

It would be cool to see a S2 featuring various side characters/MS like some of the pilots in Zeonic Front and Blue Destiny. Hell they could even throw in cameos of 08th and Burnings’ team on the Federation side for fan service

[@E36Variance]

One of the things that bothered me the most throughout the entire series was how contrived various characters' survivals ended up being. Solari and co. should have died 5 times over with the fights they kept getting in, but rather than actually write believable scenarios for their survival, the writers consistently fell back on "Oh, you got lucky and the Gundam got distracted for long enough for you to escape." There were so many times where the Gundam was seconds away from destroying a Zaku, etc. only to get conveniently distracted by incoming fire from another Zaku, a tank, or something else, giving time for the downed unit to get up, or for the pilot to exit the unit and escape on foot. You're really going to tell me that, instead of taking 5 seconds to stab your active beam saber into the downed Zaku that you were literally already standing on top of, you're going to turn around and run off towards another target that was shooting a weapon that can't even damage you? It was established early on that essentially NONE of the Zeon forces' weaponry were capable of damaging the Gundam from anything other than point-blank range. One other random plot hole that annoyed me was during the raid on the recycling center. At one point the Gundam dropped its beam rifle, eventually picking up the bazooka that the GM had dropped. The Gundam then leaves with the bazooka, seemingly leaving a sample of the Federation's single-greatest technological advantage: miniaturized beam weaponry.

[@arashitendou5941]

I mean gotta follow the trend…as in no Gundam EVER uses his head mounted Vulcans Even when a single burst of fire could get the job done at such close range on a heavily weakened Zeke But nope they are just head ornaments to differentiate from most antagonist suits since they DON’T have them

[@SpikeSlania]

I more thought the Gundam pilot was going way beyond taking out enemy mobile suits. Like what's the point of making sure the pilot is dead when you're in an active war zone and just crippled a Zaku 2 beyond repair/movement. I know some pilots have blood lust but this was a scenario were the Gundam was the only federation mobile suit and the main target, just take out the enemy mobile suit and move on

[@davidsamet6969]

The people moved so awkwardly because the mobile suits moved so well. It’s like they just took the models of how the mobile suits moved and then just pasted onto people not realizing that people do not move like machines.

[@bruticus1496]

Eh the people were passable, I was excited for the fights. The pink hair was fairly crap as a character, don’t know how she got in with all those tattoos, I think she was a self insert or it felt like it

[@Gadlight]

@@bruticus1496 since the main creators worked in W40k, she seems like a sister of battle character put into the zeon frontline, its unnecessary.

[@HybrydATP64]

Spoilers: The way i see the ending is that knowing Zeon’s lying tendencies Solari may have joined the remnant forces under false pretenses like being told that they’re just there conducting cleanup operations before heading back to space and maybe later realizing what is actually going on

[@marcosdheleno]

if that's the case, they could literaly shown that to be the situation. the truth is, they wanted her to be a tragic figure who wants to stop fighting but keeps getting dragged into conflict. but that's now how it ended as. she looked like either an idiot, or a hypocrite.

[@dylanwight5764]

The ending was _almost_ excellent. Just change one thing and it all comes together. Instead of remaining on Earth as a Zeon insurgent, have her stay on as a Medicines Sans Frontieres (or whatever it's called in the series) guard. That scrapyard Zaku II lends itself well to the idea of a politically unaffiliated group working to rebuild villages and smaller settlements in the aftermath of the war, using anything it can to aid its mission.

[@wzx6x6z6w]

This show is just a clear sign that most writers nowadays can't write a good war story anymore. They either write over the top cheesy drama or shit that tries to paint one side of the war as the "bad but cool guys", which this show narrowly falls into.

[@-mcpie-6802]

They should make a sequel where her son turns against her for abandoning him for a pointless cause she has chosen or retcon her existence by saying that she was one of the Zaku pilots who died in 0083 stardust memory

[@thomasammon2580]

Eh. I think if they do a sequel, they have to have her son drafted into the NeoZeon, and have her die pointlessly trying to save him from fighting ZZ with Desert Rommel's guys. That way we can watch both her and her son get toasted by other little kids flying suits, showing how exactly fucking stupid this ending was.

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

I did like the ending. The beginning showed she was a soldier and did not ascribe personal meaning to the conflict. Some of the process showed her motherly side. The ending brings a synthesis. I think a one-off line was about the empathy of the newtypes or their ability to feel true intentions. But it might have slipped my mind she joined the Remnants in Africa, when I thought she joined a division and the war hadn't ended just yet. Because if so, she'd eventually go home, maybe start an orphanage, whatever. But if it was the remnants and the war ended, then we have a minor AU on our hands. I think it was more that the budget was spent making the sleek and blocky Zakus of the past slightly panel-lined, and that there were so many grunts moving around in some shots to establish some realism as a conflict. It was weird here and there but fine. Honestly my bigger questions ended up being things like the TOW missiles on the Zakus and the probably stolen gatling on the Gundam, as well as its weird name.

[@JordanFromJersey]

I really dug the series. Yes the ending is weird, but I was dialed in for the rest of it and the run time flew by. And hey, maybe we could get a sequel where the character goes where it says they’re going… only to learn exactly the things you were talking about. Could be compelling.

[@CJ-442]

I’m assuming that the ending was either supposed to be tragically ironic (like when she joined up with them they weren’t actually true “hold-outs” yet since the war was still going on when she gave her speech, and she has no clue about how bad they’re about to become) or they’re just trying to set up a sequel/second season.

[@achunguyen3147]

I feel your anger about that ending man haha. Totally lowered my opinion of the entire series unfortunately.

[@vustvaleo8068]

Solari makes Gendo Ikari look like a loving parent, mom of the year indeed.

[@ronnieman87]

Damn son! shots fired!

[@nightwolfnordberg9476]

Are you kinding me. She just abond her child not whatever the shit gendo put shinji threw.

[@midknightfenerir]

Gendo Ikari and his wife are way way way worse than Iria Solari.

[@arashitendou5941]

I would say Shinji’s mom isn’t to bad, if only cause she literally eats Gendo after all the crap he’s done Mind you many, including myself, would say she’s to little to late by freakin YEARS

[@blackmanwithcomputer]

They have to use mocap for this, and treat it like God of War, The Last of Us and RDR2. The movements need to be fluid and match the voice acting. Also, they need to dial back on the realism in the design to stop the uncanny valley effect.

[@TomHuynh-x9l]

After consuming so much UC lore, the ending makes sense. We as the audience have UC knowledge of the future, the characters don’t. Solari hasn’t seen her side weaponize kids yet. In her eyes, the federation is the ultimate evil threat toward her son and many other children after her encounter with the Gundam pilot. Zeon forces on Earth after Odessa were screwed. Not all of them can go back to space due to someone having to stay behind to defend the limited spacecraft launches. Plus there needs to be an escort unit in orbit to retrieve the earth forces. Both the EFGF and EFSF are making it difficult for Zeon to reinforce the space front. That basically made the Zeon Australian forces extremely smart for using the HLV launches as a decoy to move mass amount of Zeon soldiers to Africa, where the federation control is the weakest. Let’s be real here, Solari would not survive Solomon nor Abao Qu despite being a newtype. Plus she can’t desert the military either.

[@datvu9537]

I hope they added a sequel about her decision. Could be her convincing everyone to quit it and go home, could be her falling for their lies to started fighting again. The timeline at the end of the series is pre-treaty anyway (even if it's a short time), so there's some option to "redeem" the ending.

[@marioangelini1860]

Kakarot197 What was your favorite moment of the show? Mine is when the Gundam fall back to protect the GM from the Zakus.

[@RangerJackWalker]

The explanation for the ending is simple: practically everyone involved in the production of Gundam UC content these days views Zeon as the real good guys. The lunatics are running the asylum.

[@RexMidnem9976]

I personaly really liked how Solari acted once she knew the Gundam pilot was a kid. It feels like a course of action and attitude I've never seen before in Gundam. (there still are some shows I've haven't watch yet, by the way)

[@kazekamiha]

Given what you said; if they made that pilot her son's age actually BE her son that might have made her 'Imma go get vengeance now' turn more believable.

[@Racicot]

I found it meh at best. I do agree with you on the ending like WTF, I paused the video backed it up like 10 or 20 seconds and had to make sure I heard and read that properly, then paused it and couldn't believe it, I legit was so mad that I screamed into my pillow. The major positive is showing off how scary the Gundam EX was, the battle scenes and the weight of mobile suit can truly be felt, some moments of tactics made me question some moments but either then that it was okay. I did not really care for any of the soldiers except for Iria and that ending made all her motivation to survive this war and return to her son pointless. If I had to give it a score out of 10, it would be a 4/10

[@maximusrotundness2121]

Thanks for actually watching the show lol

[@josepo513]

3:47 that was dirty XDXDXDXD. I was looking forward to your take on this series. levelheaded as always, love this channel.

[@HamanLover69]

I feel like this could have been fixed real easily by just making it to where her child had been killed earlier in the war in a federation attack. Then a flash forward where she joins some sort of organization like maybe the AEUG which is a lot more in line her ideals since they're not based on the idea of revenge like the Zeon remnants. This way she's not abandoning her kid at the end of the day and is still carrying on the fight for a better future.

[@HeadCannonPrime]

Yeah i really just wanted her to go back home. Maybe join the AEUG.

[@Plaprad]

I haven't checked it out yet, but from what I've heard it's ok. Not really wanting to see it because the janky character animation is enough to pull me out of it and make it hard to enjoy. But I will say something about G-Saviour. As someone who was there when it dropped, and still has the DVD purchased the day it came out, the mobile suit fights were pretty awesome for the time. Remember, late 90's, there was no mecha action in the West. You had anime, Mechwarrior cutscenes, and films like "Robot Jox". So seeing CG mobile suits duking it out in an actual fight that last longer than thirty seconds was great. Most reviews I read at the time would make a point to call out the cool fights since it was the only good part. As for Doozy Bots, let us weep for the AU where it became a thing and is still regarded as Gundam in the West.

[@thomasammon2580]

G-Saviour: um, sure, except that you couldn't really pick the suits out from the backgrounds (color palette issues), and there were about 5 minutes of suit action in the entire movie. speaking as someone else who was there when it dropped, and still has the dvd :D

[@dy031101]

I came out of the animation a more-ardent Zeon hater than when coming in. Holy Jesus.

[@E36Variance]

Having finally watched Gundam the Origin a month or two ago and having it's depiction of Zeon's atrocities fresh in my mind, every single time one of the characters in RfV started going on about "Federation bastards!" and "We're fighting for our survival!", I was just sitting there thinking "you guys started the war AND dropped a fucking colony on Earth". Cue the one character remarking about how it's completely understandable that the residents of Earth see them as invaders being called a "Feddie Sympathizer" by the others. It makes me wonder if either Zeon's propaganda machine is just really THAT good, or if their intelligence organizations actually managed to suppress information so thoroughly that the average Zeon soldier doesn't even know about Operation British?

[@thomasammon2580]

@@E36Variance it honestly makes me wonder if the show's writers are neo-nazis. They gloss over *everything* Zeon did in the first 11 months of the war, how 50% of mankind is dead now, and their deliberately-shown Nazi imagery and salutes, to make Solari into a hero.

[@RicQuintanilla]

i really like the Japanese dub. also didn't like the same things you didn't.. sigh.... IT WAS SOOO CLOSE!

[@spikmaster18]

You know the reason why Solari joined the Zeon Remnants forces in Africa ? * The Midnight Fenrir, that's it.

[@AlexRoivas]

They actually get defeated pretty early after the one year war ends and most just go back to side 3 and retire. Only a few become terrorist. This is explained in Gundam Legacy manga

[@spikmaster18]

@AlexRoivas Oh yes I know, its just I'm talking in RFV time-frame which is November 0079 not January 0080.

[@NIXproductions]

I'd say the series is very very very biased in favor of Zeon. They are kicking ass and slaughtering without a care in the world and seemingly not concerned about casualties. Then suddenly they get their nuts kicked in repeatedly. Spoilers: The Gundam Pilot did offer to let her surrender so she could live. She refused, got him killed since he protected her and let his guard down. Then her actions after say (in her mind) that its the Federation that will perpetuate war... When Zeon started it. He offered mercy and she refused and is the ironic perpetuator of the wars she wants to keep the youth from. I think the irony is just that she's biased. Zeon are the ones fighting for independence against the evil Federation. Even while Zeon is exterminating them by dropping colonies and other atrocities. She cannot accept any other worldview. A young gundam pilot dies because of her? She might take personal blame but she'll still fight the federation since they deployed child soldiers. Even though they were forced to because her people killed their parents. Zeon caused everything and are blind to the repercussions they sewed.

[@TheMrSwampert]

I really love the horror movie villain angle for the EX Gundam, it was such an interesting take on what is typically the hero of the story. The ending felt very harrowing, it was actually pretty sad, and it goes great with the tone of the story, how it’s all just a violent cycle that needs to be broken, but it’s not that easy. It definitely surprised me, I enjoyed it much more than I thought it would. It’s a solid 7.5/10 entry. I wouldn’t be opposed to more. This felt like a great first step, they just need to refine things and it’ll be awesome.

[@ManaNaito]

I liked how the Gundam kid conveniently forgot that he's a NewType so he can get stabbed in the back.

[@nathanielarthurhardy419]

She killed him with "kindness"

[@darkhorse744]

@@ManaNaito He let his guard down. Newtypes CAN and have died.

[@viperson9818]

He did say “mother” so his mind was definitely heavily clouded.

[@noneedtoknow07]

Personally I just enjoyed it for how it showed what the Gundam looks like from an Zeon POV. That first episode was done well in that regard. See Zeon marching proudly to retake a base. See them walk right into an ambush showing how the EF is good at conventional warfare. See how Zeon has the advantage of the Mobile Suits and how much of menace they are. Then the Gundam shows up. They no longer have the advantage and are very outclassed.

[@RagingWaldo]

Absolutely Spot On with the ending. It was the exact reaction and same thoughts I had watching the ending.

[@Alpha_Digamma]

I find it rather interesting the show simply did not address Zeon killed like half of humanity early in the war, making them way more sympathetic than they should be. There was so many time alocated to Zeon grunts talking about the sense of the war and their role in it and still this topic didn't get a single second of screentime? Like what the hell? Aside from that show itself was suprisingly decent.

[@blk_sheep]

A character in a gundam ip doing a complete 180 against all logical reasoning. Definitely treading into new territory.

[@traphimawari7760]

she literally works for the same organization that enabled a kid to pilot the shamblo. I was appalled by the ending, and thats an understatement, she could have went home maybe change zeon from within cause they too have been sending out younger pilots and even experimenting kids on their own newtype labs till they figured out they can just clone kids as newtype weapons, yeah her concussion is not an excuse this us just bad writing.

[@SkullArrol]

Didn't think anyone wanted to compete with Talia Gladys for Gundam's Deadbeat mom of the year but here we are

[@Keix707]

I’m not gonna lie, the scene where they were rallying up I think Ronet was giving a speech I forgot but they were cheering but upset that they did not went SEIG ZEON being socially conscious or something

[@Omnipotentkami]

My reaction; "So that's all fine and dandy with Zeon winning the battle. Still wondering where the 'Vengeance' part kicks in--" 3:49 "Oh s*it! There it is!"

[@Justin-Ver-Ka]

Had to have a drink in remembrance of my boy LeSean. What a legend.

[@Highestwingzero]

Your take on the ending, I 100% agree the decision at the end was so bad

[@rockybirdy1529]

The most annoying part about the ending is that they could spin it like a million other ways that still conclude with "she's not going home". But nooooo, gotta end with heroic bgm and weird speech about fighting on to protect kids. They could probably just leave it open-ended, and people would come up with conclusions on their own that is satisfying enough. - Something something guilt about not able to save a child soldier, can't bare to see her own son (put in some nightmare scene of her son's face shifts to John Gundam's face...idk...there are already 2 of these nightmare scenes). Also survivor guilt kicked in, and she decided to stay to help evacuate soldiers from more base. And one thing led to another, and now she is stranded on earth with the remnants she tried to save. We already seen her having savior complex, going against order to build junkyard Zakus to protect a base. Heck, throw in the fact that she accepts that she is a newtype, and feel responsible to stay and help now that she knows she can predict dangers. With the ending we got, it felt like ss2 got cancelled, and now they speedrun her heel-turn conclusion she would have at the end of that season in a 2 minute speech in ss1.

[@hungryhungryhobo196]

Wonder how many kinds were in Australia when the colony dropped.

[@opswhyyou7216]

This show has a fundamental sin: feels like it wants to glorify Zeon...who is basically space fascists. Like that infamous Zaku quote. I know the Earth Federation has its own share of problems, but this is not how you fix those problems. This show probably just make people want to join Londo Bell more and execute every last Zeon hypocrite.

[@Odihmantich]

My take on her staying on Earth is two reasons: first. She brought a similar child to death by her actions and that traumatized her deeply enough for her to understand that she would be no good as a mother to her son from now on. May be the guilt made her join one of the guerrilla groups because she was hoping to be killed or something and not live as the monster she became. I dunno Second. It is a common trope in anime to show the utter unpredictability of life. And how it takes just one moment for things to go 180. And I think they included it here as a tribute to that. Although it would be more intertwined with the plot in Japanese anime. (Sword Gai is a cool example of this). Plus as I understand now they have material for another season

[@MGBandit75]

Good points. I guess she would be better off joining that Japanese medic guy that also stayed behind on Earth.

[@ChadScott-m4w]

At first I was actually very shocked and dumbfounded at the ending, but when I thought about it a bit more, it makes sense. This story is NOT a happy one, and people are often misguided by their own feelings and convictions, a theme throughout the whole series. I think it wasn't that Iria wants vengeance - she wants *agency.* Yes, she COULD go back to her son, back to her normal life, try putting it behind her, but she CAN'T. She feels too much guilt about the deaths at her hands, either with her at the trigger or someone else dealing the killing blow. She feels a need to somehow atone, to silence the ghosts haunting her through any means possible, and she feels this - with her actually being able to do something on the battlefield - is better than being a bystander unable to do anything at all. Add to this the tragedy we know will likely happen - Zeon will do the exact same sin as the Federation is by recruiting the Zeon Youth, of which her son has a high chance of being one, doomed to pointlessly die as Zeon desperately grasps at straws at the end of the One Year War. She believes fighting for her cause can be done, because she doesn't have the full picture and is blinded by grief, which only resonates with the tragedy of the Universal Century.

[@darkhorse744]

Here's hoping Iria winds up with some not crazy guys, maybe AEUG or something. Karaba? Maybe Londo Bell? Man, the UC is messed up, I can't even really thing of any "Good enough guys", Londo Bell is looking like the best choice right now.

[@spartan576]

@@darkhorse744 I mean, londo bell pretty much ends up as a federation unofficial spec ops/clean up crew later on, so, not even them

[@darkhorse744]

@@spartan576 Maaaaan. Living in UC is hella ass. Maybe a faction of the AEUG that breaks off and keeps trying to fight for people or something like that. Cus UC just doesn't get better.

[@spartan576]

@@darkhorse744 yep, it sucks, and that's pretty much how the argument as to how char was kinda right and amuro was plain wrong goes, considering everything that happens beyond UC 100

[@Gadlight]

she could have been ended working for anaheim electronics, like the uc engage MC

[@darkhorse744]

@@Gadlight The girlfail? I can see that, but how would she get in contact with them? Also, Anaheim are black Merchants, so there's that too.

[@DIEGhostfish]

It all hinges of the definition of "Remnants" between those who are merely the "remnants" of existing military units without a solid command structure, or actual post-treaty capital-R Remnants.

[@haotehmao]

I like how the Midnighters forgot they have the 3 barrel machine gun after losing their gatling shields.

[@LOH3NGR1N]

The audio/ sound stage were amazing. All the steps of the Gundam in absolute silence is horrifying in a mini home theatre as if you're hiding. Downside it really made the English voice acting clear and it was very average; not trash but diffidently could of been better.

[@elite393]

Yeah. That's about my feelings on it, spot on everything. Excellent presentation of the mobile suits, hit or miss character animation/vo, story is perfectly serviceable until the ending jumps off a cliff.

[@amayobidjo]

8:38 I think that's pretty much it. Search, rescue, and destroy. As for what happens next, if there's a continuation, it'll likely focus on the Fed's perspective and their attempts to stop her.

[@gzsprout]

Definitely liked this and will watch more. I understand following the people, but if it was 86% mobile suit action and 14% human characters, theyd avoid the uncanny valley stuff.

[@cd5sircoupe]

I think the best way to put the visuals is the characters are PS3 Unreal Engine and everything else is PS5 Unreal Engine. I wish they had used the original sound effects for at least a few things like the monoeyes though. 5:45 Not just the Nokia, pretty sure the newtype kid was using a PSP too. I quite like how they've "updated" this period by introducing semi-dated tech like that which wasn't present in the original 70s and 80s animations because they hadn't been invented, yet they keep the feel of the original intact while making it more relatable to the current audience. The EX Gundam felt like a goddamn monster in this show, no wonder they call Amuro's the "white devil". I'm in agreement on the ending, Iria's character motivations don't align with her actions in the uh epilogue or whatever. What she chose to do afterwards was completely counter to what she had just said in the previous scenes. It would've been cool if they could have extended the dock fight scene to involve some of the amphibious Zeon suits, or perhaps a Dom or two at Odesza during the evacuation... Hey at least we got more Gouf Customs! Easily one of my fave oyw suits. Oh G-Savior... I remember buying a bootleg of that from the local import shop in my mall when I was a HS freshman back in like 00. I was like what is this steaming shit pile that I wasted my money on? I got a lot more mileage out of the DBZ bootlegs back then considering we were currently stuck at the end of the Namek/Frieza saga reruns. Oh man, I even remember friends buying stuff like the original MG Dom, Hyaku Shiki, Sazabi and others from that place. They often ran $100+ since nobody imported them like they do today, it was HLJ or whatever limited stuff they had at Walmart & Toys R Us to coincide with Toonami.

[@ToonamiT0M]

Being made in Unreal Engine is what really hurt the character animation, but everything else was gorgeous. And as for that ending, it wasn't a deal breaker for me, but it was face palm worthy. Overall, it was well done and absolutely worth watching.

[@theblackunicorn261]

The end of the movie kinda feela like the writers had a really great day of writing, went out for drinks, and 3 days later they stumbled back into the office, still hungover, realised they still needed an ending, and just scribbled something down

[@WasabiAwesomeSauce]

I think the series needed one more episode to flesh out the ending. So we got a rushed version due to the limited episode count. Overall I enjoyed this show a lot and Im glad it was made. More of this please.

[@MrJulio632]

I was pleasant surprised with the series, was expecting a high budget IGLOO 3, and I received it But for real, some characters doing a 180⁰ in there personalities is really funny

[@cissuperdroid]

My favorite part was in the last episode when a Zeon soldier running toward the camera *DESPAWNED*

[@corvus9359]

They could've had her go back to space, and then later choose to join the AEUG. That was a cause that was more in line with what she said in her monologue at the end. A real missed opportunity. It could've even lined up a continuation of the series that follows parts of the Gryps Conflict we didn't get to see.

[@GundplaHobby]

Can we just talk about how the EX Gundam is more than likely a pre-curser to the Gundams from stardust memory

[@AlexRoivas]

Not even , completely different beast.

[@GundplaHobby]

@@AlexRoivas , double check the design of the body, against the gpo1, it's very similar, almost identical, I'm just saying the design is the in universe precursor

[@DIEGhostfish]

I only switched to English for Yuri's scene to be DISGUSTED by the lack of returning voice talent. Daran Norris's voice was so ICONIC it made it into Toonami promos.

[@Abou77]

I enjoyed Requiem For Vengeance. It's an OK CG Series. The graphics are fine (Bonus point for anything mechanical) but characters animations are clumsy at best (borderline MS IGLOO esque sometime) The story is also OK with some pacing issue. The ending is MEH at best

[@AlexRoivas]

MS IGLOO animations are far superior to this. The graphics might not be as good but all the small details, sounds, story, character designs make MS IGLOO far better

[@Bt3615]

The only way to reconcile the ending to the main characters principles is to have the last part set right after the end of the war on Earth (apparently his dialogue is right after the end of 08MS Team with Zeon being pushed out of Asia) with the fight still ongoing in space. Since she is dutiful soldier she followed the others in Africa, but a good continuation should be after the units stationed there refuses to stop fighting after the treaty is signed, forcing her to fight against the remnants to escape.

[@ChangeOfMemory]

Delusional mode on: the finale makes sense. She got PTSD from the war and cannot goes back to her normal life, add some survivor guilt about being the last red wolf (even more, when she should protect her team), and you got a good explanation of why she joined Zeon Remnants. (Yes I know it makes 0 sense, and I agree the ending is not good)

[@wilfrid-robertdoucet2179]

0:59 as a Canadian I would like to say sorry

[@SoulstrikerV]

"Iria Solari was someone who could've been a mother to him." -the most important thing we need to learn from this show So the Gundam EX was kinda ugly because a handsome Gundam won't make for an effective horror movie monster. Iria's Unidentified Zaku II was kinda ugly because it was built from literal garbage by people who weren't trained to do so (they still did a good job with what they have, esp. w/ the shoulder binder). But those Gouf Customs are handsome and macho! Iria's ending was indeed a WTF moment. A Zanzibar was available after the battle so she 100% can go home. But I think there's at least some reason behind her decision. In fact, she probably chose Africa for her objective exactly because the Zeon Remnants who couldn't let go of the war gathered there. The war was over, everywhere else is relatively peaceful. If the Feds still had children piloting Gundams, they would be sent to Africa for clean-up ops against Zeons who wouldn't show mercy. She's basically making an enemy of both sides when she finally convinces the next Gundam pilot to abandon the war. How she plans to survive with the kid after that is the big question. I think it's noble of her to go out of her way to do that if my assumptions were right, but, what about your own kid? 50/50 the kid now assumes she's KIA, begins holding a grudge against the Feds, and will join Zeon in the next war, possibly becoming a Newtype or pulled into a Cyber Newtype project. And the kid's gonna drown in mixed emotions if he encounters Iria on a battlefield, already a mother to a Gundam pilot instead of him. I wish they'd make a sequel of this so we'd know what she's actually up to and to see her interaction w/ her son. I actually posted a longer comment earlier, but it seemed like KZbin was bugging and didn't post it?

[@SpikeSlania]

It was a decent watch. It had me questioning mobile suit lore constantly though. From what I could gather Red Wolf was an elite Zaku 2 squad but lacked any Intel on Federation mobile suits and was taking place right before Odessa with Gouf Customs flying around. I feel like most mobile suit teams at this point heard about the White Base bogey men at this point. I was also questioning the Gundam's operation time and plot armor when it first appeared taking on countless Zaku 2s, Zaku Tanks, Magellans, and Dopps and showing no damage or slowing down, though later in the series takes damage from a Zaku machine gun. Decent series but I have questions

[@WAMoralesIgnacio]

The characters move like the Tekken fighters endings in the PS2 days.

[@KamarRama]

Wow i agree with the ending opinion and the animation. And I also agree that the series is also quite successful despite the minuses. Now I'm dying want to know how Gundam EX (RX -78(G)E) is developed and how this story fits to the UC timeline?

[@Melvin-belvin]

Just so you know, there was no western studio involved. The only two westerners involved were the writer and director. Sunrise and safehouse are both Japanese studios that were heavily involved, with Safehouse doing the actual animation in Unreal.

[@Felix24148]

I felt the same way about the ending man. I was talking about how contradictory it was with a friend a few days ago

[@DIEGhostfish]

Even Luna Titanium should still get noticable damage from bazookas and 180 cannon shells.

[@tendrix10]

“Video game cutscenes” was my exact thought too! Like the ran a PS2 game through a graphics upscaler

[@Griffon29]

What kills me is they explicitly give her an out. One of the Midnighters says they have a Zanzibar cruiser waiting for them after the Gundam gets destroyed, so the writers gave her a chance to go home and see her kid. I'd be a little more understanding if she was cut off and the only way out was a submarine or something like that, something that would get her out of the area but not to space but this was an intentional, explicit choice by the writers and the consensus I've seen so far across my friend groups and the internet at large is that it was a dumb idea.

[@StrikeAstray01]

It's actually one of my favorites despite the ludicrous ending. I liked it more than the new Hathaway. Reminded me of some of my favorite Gundam series, 08th MS Team.