Viewer Request - Reman Scimitar VS Jem'Hadar Battleship - Both Ways - Star Trek Starship Battles

[@s.patrickmarino7289]

"Several bad puns later." I loved that line.

[@TrentonBennett]

Also the Scimitar has primary AND secondary shields....not to forget it can fire WHILE cloaked. I believe the Scimitar wiped the floor with Jem'Hadar battleships and cruisers. If the Scimitar in this game was EXACTLY how she was in Star Trek Nemesis there'd be no chance for any ship... That would have been a major plot twist if a Jem'Hadar Battleship showed up to help the Enterprise. I bet between the two and possible with Commander Denotra's two warbirds they would have destroyed the Scimitar. That was AWESOME seeing you blind firing and hitting the Scimitar. Never really seen you do that very much. This was a fun matchup.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Thanks Trent! Yes, if she was cloaked, it would have been a lot trickier. Amazing how it has shields whilst cloaked. 🖖

[@Katvanished]

​@@RetroBadgerGaming if my memory serves me right, the game shuts down your shields anyway, and you have to restore power to them right? also probably the most frustrating thing about the scimitar is the fact that she's only mounting pulse disruptors, which are touchy in BC. and RE: hitting them while cloaked, that's exactly why KM has blindfire. have you ever tried KM multiplayer? it's quite fun, although the people I introduced to it weren't that interested

[@anthonylasalle7392]

Shinzon's engagements against the Dominion were all successful.

[@DavidEvans_dle]

Would love for a movie of the Scimitar fighting in the Dominion Wars. Would be the equivalent of The Tuskegee Airmen!!

[@rarevhsuploads4995]

I’ve wanted to see this match up for ages. I always thought the Scimitar would have the edge but it would take some serious damage before taking down the Jem’Hadar battleship.

[@retluoc]

Oh yes! This is why I requested this. Both ships are evenly matched (more or less). The Scimitar has such amazing regenerative shields... that's what gives it the edge. The Dominion ship has the firepower edge, but its maneuverability sucks 😆. That was so close when you were in the Dominion ship. The Founders would have been ashamed 🤣. If it didn't take about 10 minutes to prime, Shinzon should have used the Thaleron emitters. I suppose it would work on Jem'Hadar. They are organic. 😀

[@tigerlilly4712]

Was my request too :)

[@retluoc]

@@tigerlilly4712 Cool! Great minds think alike 😀

[@enterprise-h312]

I was watching an older video of yours featuring the Scimitar where you asked whether it was the only ship of its class. In a novel the Scimitar was created by the Romulans to fight the Dominion and Shinzon destroyed all of the other, unfinished, ships. It certainly makes more sense to me than the Remans building it.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

That's cool! Never knew this. Thanks for the info 🖖

[@RobBreckenridge]

RB there is another factor you are missing about the weapons. Jem'Hadar like many species use beam weapons. A single short focused beam. The Scimitar uses cannon type weapons. Yes short single shot but rapid fire, if you look at the rate of fire, for every one shot of a beam weapon the Scimitar fires 4-6 shots from a single cannon, multiply that by say 5-7 cannons in a single volley. The effect may come down to roughly the same damage but it's down to durability, think of the old saying "a thousand stings can kill " I believe that this was Shinzons idea from the start. Shields are good but how long can they last before the short out from such a barage?

[@davidprinzing8059]

In my mind, firing lots of individual burst shots probably does more cumulative damage to shields over time, similar to how pulse phasors work. Polaron beams were essentially leveraged because they can penetrate most conventional shields. Once the Federation (and other species) adapted their shields to block them, they probably aren't much more effective than your regular phasors.

[@kellyevans3254]

If your mod allowed the scimitar to fire whole cloaked and gave you the secondary shields you could probably take on 3-5 jem-hadar battleships at once while sustaining minimal damage.

[@ralfhtg1056]

The Scimitar has 27 torpedo launchers, not 21.

[@Forge17]

The battleship design really is gorgeous at that scale. The smaller variants don’t work as well

[@brucebrannon7251]

I would also love to see the USS Vengeance against the scimitar

[@maestro-zq8gu]

If Scimitar can disable the propulsion and use it's super weapon, it's game over.

[@stevelapierre4776]

😲Nice job with the Scimitar Admiral.. and hmm well forgot to cloak lol. Just the size of the Jem'Hadar ship in insane. gosh.. all those windows.. ouff. Well, the said in the Dominion war, the Remans were wicked warriors.. hmm. In this case, too bad could not open the wings of the Scimitar lol. just saying.. that would take out the Jem'Hadar... eeh.. Gosh that was a battle for sure.. jeepers.. Yes, I would say.. need a ship with teeth and stealth.. the Scimitar.. and it as all those Scorpions fighters too.. hmm both can launch. wow. nice battle Admiral!!!😊🖖

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Oooh, totally forgot about the Scorpion Fighters. Imagine if it could launch them. The Scimitar is an absolute Machine! If the Jem'Hadar battleship had the giant torpedo weapons though, it may have been a different matter 🖖

[@stevelapierre4776]

@@RetroBadgerGaming Yes while you were playing I had a flash.. with the Scorpion fighters.. if other ships can launch , this would be amazing.. I forgot the Battleship giant torpedo.. hmm gosh.. !🖖

[@MAZE4]

The Jem Hadar battleship is huge, but not one single chair on it!

[@sharonec5419]

Or replicator lol.

[@MAZE4]

@@sharonec5419 thank god, there peskey little buggers.

[@scottpdogwsp]

Not bad battle. Would love to see the Simitar vs Dominion fleet and Dominion Battleship vs Star Destroyer

[@UncommonKnowledge587]

Computer has the RBG cloaking technique, pretty spot on 🖖

[@michaeleaton222]

Great matchup. Grudge match! I was thinking at the start the Dominion ship would be the overall contender. It does pretty much show how Shinzon, as he asserted to Picard, could have obliterated the Enterprise E if he had gone full force.

[@Exaris79]

When the ST: TNG Nemesis movie was released, it was rumored that the Scimitar is actually a Dominion Battleship that was captured by the Remans. It was then rebuilt to look like a Reman ship.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

I really like that theory. There are some serious similarities between the two! 🖖

[@tisFrancesfault]

The Scimitar, is peak balls to the wall, Praetor/Consul ordering (possibly while drunk) "I wanna a ship that can kick the sh*t out of 3-4 1st rate ships alone, with enhanced cloaking and a super weapon!" Engineer "but sir, it be massive and only a few could be built; they'd cost fortune an..." Praetor/Consul: "...Did I stutter?"

[@tisFrancesfault]

Seriously though... Some dont like the Scimitar, but imo, its fantastic; and within the setting. Yes its very powerful, But its very big! first, the Fed have ran into a fair few were their ships are smaller and or less powerful (even the Galaxy classes). But its not a OP ship, a ship that's really more than a match for a galaxy class or 4 happens to be like, three - Four times the size of a Galaxy. And we didn't even see the fighters deployed!

[@ShamelessMcBundy]

The Scimitar just does not stop firing. That's amazing.

[@Skirne]

That was a GREAT match-up,

[@PREPFORIT]

I luv these what-if battle scenarios.

[@argonunya1543]

Aww thanks so much RetroBadger!❤️👊🏻

[@patryn36]

The thing that made the scimitar so deadly was the battle cloak, it allowed for full weapon useage so the scimitar to play with immunity.

[@77zarick]

Shinzons ship i think has 27 torpedo bays if i remember the movie

[@jirkasirka3949]

Yep. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGKln6yLdrOiftE (tactical analysis)

[@StephenPitter]

This the fight I’ve always wanted to see

[@Bu2Spike]

Same here

[@ThatMetalheadMan]

Nice,this is something I needed to see lol.

[@deepdivedylan]

4:38 this version was supposed to launch Jem Hadar fighters, but it doesn't work. Must be a bug! 😾

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

😂😂😂 The Jem'Hadar have a lot of bugs!

[@deaks25]

It's rare for the Scimitar to look small. Puts the scale of the Dominion Battleship into perspective!

[@hunter7]

Nice battle for 2nd place behind the GRAND NAGUS!!!

[@XHunter442]

Ty for the video and LLAP Great video on both ends.. alot of weapons and shield! >.< Turn so slow lol

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Thanks Mate 🖖

[@adcraziness1501]

@6:50 Seems this would be the time to bring that "repair" subsystem online. Was that available to the player?

[@SupCom78]

that was a fun battle to watch the dominion how things have to be done make it touggggghhhhhhhhhttttttt as a titanium nail.

[@jcrichichi]

Considering you won each round with each ship, it does mean the CO makes all the difference when the ships are evenly matched. Personally I would give the edge to the scimitar due to her firepower and maneuverability.

[@leman761]

Odo's Dominion would definitely help Picard. Only reason I replayed STO is when the dominion episode came out and to help Odo's task force help the federation. Wish that game was actually as good as this one. Or good at all

[@sharonec5419]

That was a good battle that. The Schimitar defintely the better ship.

[@dinodesantis2976]

what about the Star Trek version of BSG and the Reman Scimitar or Jem'Hadar battle ship or all three at once ??

[@johngalt4657]

Great Matchup!!!😃👍💛

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Thanks 🖖

[@johngalt4657]

@@RetroBadgerGaming You should do Dominion Battlecruiser vs. Borg Cube. Or Doomsday Machine vs. Borg Cube. You should create Nomad!!! And put him up against different ships!😃👍💛

[@johngalt4657]

@@RetroBadgerGaming Yup!🖖

[@Boseeinsteinshake]

I noticed, the siege cannons of this Dominion Battleship never fired. Does this mod not have them? They might have been quite the asset!

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Sadly not 🖖

[@martinjaser2725]

Is there a reason why you haven't mentioned the Apollo class again?

[@MRFESTA1991]

You have to remember he could fire when cloaked 😂

[@johngalt4657]

I want to see Borg cube vs. Doomsday machine.

[@scott3002]

It all went well on the Dominion ship until the critical power drain from the shields of the washing machine and microwave combination.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@rabmelvin1701]

Didnt the jemhadar battleship have the big siege cannons? They would have been a good way to pummel the scimitar

[@Jarsia]

I thought the battleship had these big siege cannons, or is that only in KM. Those were what I was betting would make the difference.

[@DerDrecksack87]

Nah i dont think the mod version has the two polaron pulse canons, it seems to only have the beams & torps.

[@Jarsia]

@@DerDrecksack87 Yeah, I've seen them before, just don't know which version.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

I think the Kobayhasimaru version has them in. Unfortunately the Scimitar in Kobayashimaru can be defeated with a shuttle craft...

[@scpguy1381]

Haven’t you done this video before?

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Not with these versions of the ships. This is the latest currently under development Remastered Unofficial Expansion 🖖

[@scpguy1381]

@@RetroBadgerGaming cool

[@SlabBulkhead166]

Can you see how many Scimitars the Enterprise-F (the real one) can take on at once?

[@dwreckd1836]

Where were the dominions large siege weapon cannons

[@ts757arse]

Please modify an Enterprise E to fire androids. Every shot sounds like a different Picard impression. After a few of those, Shinzon the silly name will have no chance.

[@dougsmith6262]

The Scimitar is certainly no joke, but it made quicker work of the Dominion ship than I expected it to.

[@PKPhoenix83]

The BC Dominion Battleship is way too weak.

[@dougsmith6262]

​@@PKPhoenix83Yeah, I got the sense that it went down easier than it should have.

[@Nicolas_Cage_Bees]

@@PKPhoenix83 Yeah but this isn't just a vanilla one, it's from the Bridge Commander Remastered mod I think, which would have been rebalanced.

[@PKPhoenix83]

@@Nicolas_Cage_Bees Just because someone says it's rebalanced doesn't make it so.

[@Nicolas_Cage_Bees]

@@PKPhoenix83 the point is that it's not just a base BC ship.

[@forMacguyver]

Like the bad guy vs bad guy vids.

[@tundatime]

I think the scimitar is a lot more nimble than the Jem hadar. That is a definite edge, allowing you to dictate where you hit and get hit.

[@JoseMoreira-vo8cu]

The HUMAN factor WINS!

[@darrensmith6999]

Fire up the Thaleron Radiation emitters !

[@2000toinfinity]

Is there a graphics upgrade patch for this game?

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Yes, bridge commander remastered vastly improves the graphics 🖖

[@2000toinfinity]

@@RetroBadgerGaming is what is shown in the video the remastered version or the regular version?

[@reubenmorris487]

All these big ships have the same problem; their turn rate is too slow and their size makes it easy to focus on one shield facing. I know this isn't about the D'Deridex but same problem.

[@mogs23]

Try them both ships against the borg and ori battel cruiser

[@davidread83]

They missed?! It’s broader than a barn! Is it a die roll?

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

🤣🤣🤣 That's the last time I buy torpedoes from Quark 🖖

[@jessiethompson9038]

Do the reman scimitar vs enterprise e and f

[@tonyhall555]

Should do x2 shinzon vs ds9 :) both versions of ds9

[@Bu2Spike]

I saw a video earlier that showed that the Jem-Hedar Battleship was bigger than the Enterprise 1701J. Does it look bigger on to you? Also have you tried putting the Enterprise 1701J against the Jem-Hedar Battleship? I'm pretty sure who will win but I'd still like to see it

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

WOW! Really? I think in Canon the J will definitely be bigger, I'll have to see if there is a version of the J in Remastered, if there is I'll definitely do the battle. The Jemhadar Battleship in Kobayshimaru is very underpowered.

[@Bu2Spike]

Awesome i can not wait to see it, i would think the J is alot bigger. ​@RetroBadgerGaming

[@stever3832]

I think my request got lost :D

[@sqequTheHunter]

Chciałbym obejrzeć bitwe Voth vs federacja/dominium, może kiedyś nagrasz :)

[@Alyeska23]

Battleship fire rate seems too low. It should be able to fire multiple beams simultaneously. That thing is gigantic.

[@DojhromTRW]

OK, you boosted the weapons power on the Scimitar during the battle but not the Battleship. I think it can be extremely even. The true Scimitar can fire while cloaked, so without escorts the Dominion is toast.

[@MisterMarin]

I want to hear those bad puns you skipped out. Thank you. 🙂

[@scpguy1381]

put 2-3 Romulan Warbirds against a Dominion battleship

[@robertbeidler3765]

Hey it was 52 disruptors 27 photon torpedoes not 21 torpedoes lol

[@RoadHead62]

Too bad the Scimitar doesn't have the Thalaron radiation weapon.

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

Bolt weapons do fixed damage. Beam weapons lose potency at range. Get closer.

[@darkmatter1152]

USS ENTERPRISE-G ECLIPSE CLASS VS. SCIMITAR. G WINS

[@cosmeticscameo8277]

so the scimitar is more superior both are superior to any starfleet ship. it's kind of scary that even during the DW era starfleet had no ship in their catalog to actually go toe to toe with these ships... even by picard era IM not sure the Enterprise_F (odyssey class) could take on these ship 1 v 1

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Indeed! The Enterprise F is no match for these ships. The Federation lost a lot of ships during the Dominion War. I suppose starfleet focus was mainly on exploration. Of course the Borg changed things, but the other races put all their development into warships. 🖖

[@chromemox3319]

The scimitar is post Dominion war right? Scimitar should be more advanced

[@dekorexpert]

I was hoping for that battle