So I tried playing PS2 Games on PS5...

PlayStation has really turned up the heat on PS2 and PSP games ported to the PS5. With trophies and added features like rewind, save states, and more, is this worth the money or subscription?!
Retro Rewind: • So I watched FIGHT CLU...
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[@RenegadePandaZ]

We really need to stop calling this kind of thing 'backwards compatibility' because it isn't. There are bespoke PS5 games that you have to purchase on PS5 and can only play on PS5. It's a port. Backwards compatibility means a system is compatible with the same media from an older system, which PS5 is only truly backward compatible with PS4.

[@retrorebound8887]

Very fair point and noted for the future. Will keep that in mind moving forward!

[@bannankev]

💯 percent. Thought the same thing. This is not backwards compatible. This is just a port. The problems from the previous games with the same problems are things ports have ALL THE TIME. Backwards compatible is me taking my ps2 disc and putting it in my ps5. That is backwards compatible with the ps2. Idk if devs know what backwards compatible means? 😂

[@Xerodm]

Exactly if they'd listened to fans, I'd be able to pop in my copy of Burnout 3 the same way I can use KOTOR or Ninja Gaiden on the Xbox Series X.

[@naruhearts1]

And even then its through emulation so even more minimal effort.

[@mariuane11]

tbf almost all "Backwards Compability" on console works as emulation/ports, especially on Xbox so it shouldn't be a big deal

[@draculaman]

Being able to flip the controls around is a solid feature I think. Its actually surprising just how many action games on the PS2 have the horizontal camera inverted and there is no way to change it, its weird because I somehow just don't really remember it being a common thing at all, but it's actually borderline the standard camera controls its so ubiquitous. Will definitely make some of those old games a lot more approachable for people who didn't necessarily grow up on them I think

[@ChrisWTube]

Yeah this is a big plus for some games. On Xbox you can’t flip the horizontal axis which is really frustrating

[@TheNintendoDScollector]

Something about childhood games having trophies that the kid in me feels I have to fully accomplish

[@-Down-D-Stairs-]

Loved that they went back and added Trophies to Toy Story 2

[@TrueGameFreak]

They did? Goddammit, I just finished it earlier this year.

[@Louts]

And Toy Story 3

[@iEastsideJones]

They did?👀

[@itsdeonlol]

This is cool, but this is not the real backwards compatibility because I should be able to put in my PS2 Discs and it should just work.

[@TheSoulWithin7]

They could give u free download maybe if u insert the disc, but simply being able to put ps1,2&3 discs in an expect them to play off the disc is over. Its a hardware thing

[@megadeth8592]

@@TheSoulWithin7 the fact that you came up with a solution pretty much instantly yet Sony hasn't tells all.

[@Vulpas]

​@@TheSoulWithin7 PS3 had the hardware to play PS2. It isn't difficult, companies are just greedy and lazy.

[@xsts420x4]

That requires sony to be consumer friendly that will never happen

[@newjackgaming88]

its trash an 440p emulator is not it fam

[@TheSoulWithin7]

I'm SO GRATEFUL for sly release. I dont have my old consoles anymore and im sick of paying for Playstations streaming service to play the collection, can't wait for 2&3 🙏

[@newjackgaming88]

thats why i like xbox 20$ for dev mode i can run any ps1 ps2 psp gamecube wii and more in 4k

[@MacyP]

@@newjackgaming88 I’m not even joking that’s literally the only reason I’d buy an Xbox just to play older games 😭

[@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu]

Enhancement is the rewind feature. You can turn it off because it causes some framerate dips on ps4

[@Dinobolt1]

This week Gamestop had a sale where you could get 4 games under $10 for $20, I ended up getting 3 PS4 games as well as a copy of Wild Arms 3 because there was nothing better for me to get. Until this year I've only owned the original PlayStation and didn't buy a PS4 but rather was given one by my manager after she got a PlayStation 5 for Christmas. This really made me want to get a PS2 even more to try it out, as so many great games are still stuck on that system.

[@thirdsupernova]

Wild Arms 3 is on the PS store. Same with Wild Arms 1 and 2

[@Dinobolt1]

@@thirdsupernova I always prefer to play physical copies of games whenever possible.

[@thirdsupernova]

@@Dinobolt1 Ok

[@jermaineeghan1675]

If it weren't for Valve's Steamdeck I don't think Sony would have taken steps to make PS2 games playable on PS5.

[@nicholasbullock1709]

That’s why competition is good for the industry. The loss of any of the major platforms would be bad for the industry and customers.

[@ali8283]

Tomb raider legend and Sly were really fun. I’m glad they have trophies 🏆

[@RemoWilliams1227]

That's the thing I like about playing retro ports is you can get achievements now lol

[@tresxlord]

I always wondered why the older titles used inverted controls by default. dont remember it bugging me back in the day but now it drives me a little crazy haha

[@wmv8996]

It would be really cool if xbox added achievements to original xbox games.

[@MacyP]

No fr like the OG battlefront, Black, Splinter Cell, etc. but at least Sony has had these for years but sadly not on native hardware

[@newjackgaming88]

use retro achievements in dev mode u can play ps1 ps2 psp gamecube wii and more in 4k

[@SamiAmYoutube]

I bought Sly as soon as I saw him. One of the Playstation OGs.

[@Batman-mg8wm]

Simpsons hit & run we need it we need sly 2 and 3

[@newjackgaming88]

i got them on my xbox series in dev mode over 730 ps2 games

[@copingflower1909]

I wouldn't get your hopes up with getting Hit and run as one of the emulated titles since that game is in licensing hell, but on a lighter note we could very well see the other 2 Sly games so at least you got something, I'm more so hoping for some old Sonic games to get added since theres still quite a few that are in desperate need of some sort of rerelease

[@RemoWilliams1227]

Pretty affordable to get a ps2 freemcboot setup going just fyi.

[@happyjam92]

I bought it for my ps2 last year. Still holds up today as a brilliant game.

[@H1ghY3ll0w]

Your wait is over for Sly 2 and 3 🔥

[@valiantjay10]

I had no issues with the star wars the clone wars emulation; now I need revenge of the sith.. lmao

[@UsernameInvalid48]

When I bought The Clone Wars I was initially dissapointed there wasn't much Jedi combat but it slowly became one of my favorite Star Wars games of the era. Excellent unique combat for sure.

[@spongebobfan78]

8:52 "Enhancements" is the option to rewind. It's off by default on PS4 (you can still turn it on) since having the rewind function available affects the emulation's framerate. About trophies, it's a big sell for me. It adds something that is not something I can easily get with emulators, which is achievements that are officially tied to my account. It also adds more to do with the game than just playing it.

[@BigBoyYoder]

The enhancements option turns off the rewind option and all those enhancements, so nothing gameplay or visually related

[@retrorebound8887]

Thank you! I couldn't figure that out, so much appreciated on the info!

[@Ifeoluwaogunnusi]

​@@retrorebound8887retro rebound please do Dance Central triology Xbox 360 reviw gameplay tomorrow

[@dominicsawicki6943]

To add to this, I believe this option is turned off by default on the PS4 versions. From what I understand, if you enable them on PS4 it causes performance issues and instability. It's not an issue on PS5, so they are enabled by default. The decision to include the enhancement option in the menu for both versions is likely for feature parity reasons.

[@Easelgames]

@@dominicsawicki6943 enhancements are actually off for ps4 by default, so this is a direct choice!

[@WllKiedSnake]

​​@retrorebound8887 Turning enhancements off also improves performance. You use save states still though. Also Clone Wars is the only one which uprenders to 1440p. Sly Racoon and Tomb Raider Legends uprendering isn't working correctly.

[@wachinimagaming4898]

1:43 when I heard Toy Story 2 now has trophy support, I went to go and buy it for my PS5 only to see it was free? I don’t pay for any of the PlayStation subscriptions, but I bought it digitally on the PS3 a few back, so I wonder if that’s why. Can anyone else let me know if it’s free for them?

[@nicholasbullock1709]

It’s ridiculous that it took 30 years for rewind features to become available when games like Tekken, Virtua Fighter and especially Gran Turismo were displaying replay footage on the PS1/Saturn. All this time the framework was there and no one thought to use it for gameplay.

[@sk84lyfe1211]

Just bought Sly today and I love the varied trophy list compared to the ps3 hd collection

[@MiguelRodriguez-lp9et]

I recommend everyone use the classic arcade filter, it makes the games look sooo much better. I own Clone Wars on both the series x and ps5 and the performance is poor on both.

[@ToTheMaxGaming1]

I’m so glad I got a series x instead of a ps5. REAL backwards compatibility and if you can’t find it on back compat, then you’ll be able to emulate it on dev mode. You can play any ps2 game on Xbox but not on PlayStation anymore, it’s sad

[@solidkwon]

I think the pricing is about prestige. Tomb Raider Legend is the iconic to the point that regardless people like me will pay $20 for it. You can put ridiculous amount of effort into Clone Wars game but nope, aint no way u can convince me to buy that at $20

[@newjackgaming88]

right u can pay 20$ for dev mode on xbox series x and s and run every ps2 game

[@solidkwon]

@@newjackgaming88 someone needs to do that for me 😅 Cause i have no idea how and I’d imagine the average consumer probably dowsnt either

[@Gr00t]

​@@newjackgaming88 or easily emulate PS2 on even the shitest pc around. These prices are absurd, $5 each would be fair imo.

[@JoaoVictor-hn8ht]

I finished Rift Apart a few weeks ago and I've been itching to play the original Ratchet PS2 games (never played them back in the day). Really hope they add them all soon!

[@threefiveseven]

Get a PS3 and the HD collection.

[@Vj37-42E_U]

Ratchet and clank is ass compared to Jak and Daxter

[@sumojoe1188]

I platinumed clone wars it was pretty mindless but had a good time with it. The story was actually pretty cool and it was like a prototype for battlefront. As a huge trophy hunter I cant wait to dive into sly and tomb raider and all these other classics getting trophies

[@Fonzflicks]

There's so many PS2 games I missed and would like to play again. I honestly would not mind just getting them as they were when they released. That's what it would look like if I went and bought it on eBay anyway. The save state and rewind feature is a game changer. No more having to restart at your last save on your memory card. It's like Edge of Tomorrow and Ground Hog Day. Just keeping rewinding until you get it right. Why waste time making a game look slightly better when you could have used that time to release more games. I think the more games the better, at least with legacy titles.

[@ericdraven7857]

TR Legend I loved back on the 360 days. Loved it so much I got 100% of the achievements. I hope to do the same here.

[@Movienerdnation]

This is an awesome feature. Even though I have a ps2, I would definitely be getting this if i didn’t have one.

[@MisterReginald141]

You left out the fact clone wars has a unit viewer, full soundtrack player and 20min behind the scenes how the game was made all as unlockables

[@James-gj8rn]

I actually wouldn’t mind the original version of Yakuza 2 being added, I always wanted to play that back in 2008, even before Yakuza Kiwami 2 came out but I never got the chance and now that Kiwami 2 is my favourite in the franchise, I really want to play the original version of Yakuza 2

[@dominicsawicki6943]

PS2 Yakuza games have their own charm! There's actually a lot I prefer about them to Kiwami, especially with 2 removing some locations. I hope they add em too, everyone needs to experience the English dub for Y1 haha

[@James-gj8rn]

@@dominicsawicki6943 haha Mark Hamill doesn't remember voicing Majima apparently

[@spacedoge6540]

​@@James-gj8rn oh god, don't remind me of that haha

[@RetroCharged]

2:05 Deathrow! What a game

[@WideOldDan]

The main back compat I want is Assassin's Creed 1. So underrated

[@TrueGameFreak]

Sure would be nice if they'd fix Ape Escape 2 so it doesn't give people a seizure.

[@TheHudsonPhoenix]

And access to the US version instead of just the EU one.

[@poy110]

@@TheHudsonPhoenixUbisoft published the us one that's why they didn't add it

[@TrueGameFreak]

@@TheHudsonPhoenix The EU one has better voice acting and the translation is more faithful to the Japanese version. At the end of the day though it doesn't matter that much, I just want it work properly.

[@gabemyers4516]

Clone wars makes sense bc they just brought back Phantom Menace earlier this year

[@Edgeyboy]

Hope we get a port of the og battlefront 1 and 2 games. Oh wait

[@BenHDR]

Can't wait for all the people who call him an Xbox fanboy to completely ignore this video like they ignore anything and everything positive he's said about PlayStation in the past

[@KyleMcGee4772]

We need a Bioshock series video next on here or other channel! 🖤

[@andyhansen5905]

It’s good that Sony is finally adding any significant number of PS2 titles to their premium tier but I feel like there should be some kind of case for false marketing on their part up until this point. Many people paid for premium when Sony first introduced the new tier system expecting PS2 games they didn’t really get for years (and no, I don’t think PS4 remasters of PS2 games count as much as Sony probably think they do). I also don’t think passing the blame on supposedly foolish early adopters who trusted Sony to give them a robust service should give them a pass. They knew the capabilities and state of their PS2 emulation the entire time. Selling this service the way they have is incredibly scummy.

[@twynstyck7807]

Tomb Raider isn't stretched, the PS2 version was already supporting 16:9. Look at the button prompts, they're perfect circles.

[@STOPTHECLOWNS581]

The PS2 version was known for stretching the assets when played in 16:9

[@keithdeibert2978]

Still no X-men legends, I’m glad they added these classics but disappointed with the ones they chose

[@BenHDR]

It may be more likely that X-Men Legends appears on Game Pass first. It was developed by Raven Software and published by Activision, both of which are now owned by Xbox

[@shaikshaik1180]

I really hope they would go for X-Men Legends and Marvel Ultimate Alliance. 😤🔥

[@johnpameh6748]

As many people that like these games, I have the ps3 sly Cooper collection. I have been hoping to play the discs, or import the disc to my ps5, the way ps4 discs, and get a minor upgrade, and add ons. I can play my ps3 console, with the ps5 controller ( I have a video on my channel, playing some).

[@itstowersss443]

Found you from your “PS Vita in 2024” video, love your stuff so far! I was on the fence about these ports because of how awful Ape Escape on PS5 was. A few of the already-ported games have really bad texture glitches. The “new” games look more promising though, looking forward to trying them.

[@zelloguy]

I'm gonna need Def Jam FFNY, Scarface, Godfather, True Crime, GTA LCS and GTA VCS. The Getaway and The Getaway black monday. Need for Speed Underground 2, Most Wanted, and Carbon. Sony better find a way to get them all playable.

[@PS2GAMER100]

Alot of those are not gonna happen due to insane license issues but I just play those on my phone with a ps2 emulator since sadly they won't come to ps5

[@newjackgaming88]

def jam fight for ny is not coming yall can hang that up i do got 740 ps2 games running on my xbox series even def jam fight for ny

[@jordandaguio]

Immediately liking this video just for your shirt (good job as always)

[@barrydude9719]

That mace windu walk got me feeling a certain way

[@troyhymesjr]

It would be a lot better if we can just use our physical discs into the PS5. That's REAL backwards compatibility

[@midnightstrike3625]

They have been putting PS2 games on modern consoles since 2015.

[@dominicsawicki6943]

They stopped in 2019 though. This is a new batch on an improved emulator. The old releases had tons of issues.

[@ericww32]

If they do the same thing with PS3 games, I’d hope that they would keep the same trophies so that if I was halfway done with a game, I would already be halfway done on the port. Basically sync the trophies 🏆

[@MrInuhanyou123]

They are probably going with what publishers are willing to license out and add trophies to. This is not just a Sony initiative since it depends on the devs. It's unlike Xbox where they have no input from devs and pubs besides getting permission

[@m1lehighmagic]

Man, I wish we could get Trophy Support for The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion! I’d 100% that game again

[@shindotgeek]

But wasnt there already ps2 games on the psplus extra tier??? And available to purchase ?

[@MrLordjordan]

Yeah like the other commentors have said this isn't backwards compatibility, this is merely streaming. And if I'm not mistaken most of the titles you can't even download that are worth a shit.

[@susanna8612]

Backward compatibility means that you can play your allready bought old collection of games with your new gen console. Matty should know better. People would rather pay for remakes/remasters than pay again for outdated looking games they already possibly own.

[@PackAttackProductions]

the enhancements tab seems to be more useful on the ps4 versions of the games, It is off by default on those versions and when turned on has noticeable frame drops and other issues from the videos I have seen but have not checked out those versions myself, I've also heard the ps4 has been one of the issues with getting their ps2 emulator up and working consistently with many games running fine on ps5 but having issues on ps4.

[@ridensroom6957]

I really hope lego star wars 2 won't have the no death trophies. Those flying level trophies were so hard

[@sleepyagent821]

Was wondering if you'd be down to discuss Final Fantasy Tactics any time soon since there have been lots of talk about that game on Twitter lately because it's been unofficially confirmed to be getting a remaster soon.

[@PotbellyPunch]

its kind of insane that you cant select 4:3 or widescreen and widescreen is being forced in some games I know that probably some games had an anamorphic option on PS2 and will attempt to scale the hud properly for 16:9 but you should still have the option to play it in 4:3.

[@apeskullgamer]

We need maximo ghost to glory,maximo vs army of zin,gauntlet dark legacy,ape escape 2&3, legacy of kain games

[@RedSox90]

Can you do a review for Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit?

[@bkdris]

Without disc compatibility what's the point? Sony just want you to rebuy these games at their store, to them it's new money. Corpo trash.

[@DecimatedSoul]

If we add Sly 2 and 3 im gonna be hyped

[@OhhTier]

I'll be buying Sly 1 instantly because its just so much easier than having to set up my ps3 again and play the Sly Collection 😂 Here's to hoping that they port the rest of the franchise soon 🙌

[@Cyberbrickmaster1986]

LEGO Star Wars 2 on PSP was an interesting decision. But how about LEGO Star Wars 1 & 2 on PS2? Also, out of all of these announced games, I'm the most excited for Sly Cooper and Daxter. Would be great if we also saw the original Ratchet & Clank and Jak & Daxter on PS2 as well, since the reboot of Ratchet & Clank is a completely different experience and the PS4 remasters of the Jak & Daxter series suck!

[@grizzlybearking1878]

Hi ya Matty, i think we should eventually stop calling this and what xbox does backwards compatibilty because it's not. They are emulations and for xbox, they are legitimate ports. They all through recertification which objectively makes them not "backwards compatible"

[@newjackgaming88]

i have 730 ps2 games in dev mode on my xbox series s

[@grizzlybearking1878]

@newjackgaming88 OK. Not exactly sure what that has to do with my comment.

[@Dalton_Boardman2000]

Games I'd love LOVE LOVE to see get in on this trend. -Tony Hawk's Underground 1+2 -Nicktoons Unite and it's sequels and while we're at it the original version of Battle For Bikini Bottom -All the classic Lego Games but specifically Indiana Jones -Bringing back the GTA PS2 games would be a real consumer friendly move after the dogshit replacement failed

[@luckylag360]

I wanna put my PS2 disc in and it play. This is not backwards compatibility.

[@greedyjoker15]

Glad that Tomb Raider came out but really bummed out that it's kinda the worst port of the three and also being the most expensive.😞 Still gonna play it and go for the trophies but sucks it's very meh looking.

[@Celestialmelody9]

Tomb raider is more expensive because it’s a better game…it’s really that simple. Being an OG tomb raider fan from the very first game in 1996, the reboot trilogy was an absolute masterpiece. If they released anniversary and underworld for the same price as legend, and don’t do anything to the graphics ill still gladly pay that small price of $20-$30 per game, simply to experience the beauty that is those games. I actually was contemplating investing in a backwards compatible ps3 simply to play the reboot trilogy of TR. imagine what the fans would willingly pay to just have those classics available on our newer systems, If we’d be willing to shell out for a ps3 just for them.

[@STOPTHECLOWNS581]

Maybe you will 😂

[@WVRLORD]

Just got the Plat on Sly Cooper, tried playing Tomb Raider Legend it was horrendous… Ill stick to Xbox backcompat for that lol.

[@trevoranderson1692]

The PS2 Tombraiders are awesome and I hope they bring Anniversary over next

[@phantinoO]

This would all be cool if I can go ahead and put my ps1, 2, and 3 discs in my ps5. So annoying that we can’t do that

[@antiquecardboard]

The stretched UI on the Clone Wars really bothers me.

[@too-bright]

I just wanna be able to play any old games I want . there is no reason that cant happen with todays technology. NFL Street, SSX Tricky , the ATV Offroad Fury games etc

[@abm2027]

I really want the original crisis core to be purchasable on ps4/ps5... I know they have the remake but I want the original too.

[@WllKiedSnake]

It is odd that only Clone Wars seems to be uprendered to 1440p and Sly Racoon and Tomb Raider Legends uprendering is not uprendering.

[@Sauce06]

Jiggle physics...unneeded hand stands to get on the ledge....classic games at their finest.

[@mrgriffin6807]

I am wondering if he knows that you can change the camera controls in the pause menu of Sly 1

[@martinidream100]

So, does putting in the disk count as having the game?

[@ChrisMaxCisneros]

Nope

[@Louts]

No

[@WheeledHamster]

They should just hired the PCSX2 and make a version for PS5.

[@TylarScott-Tate]

I wonder if they will do the same for ps3

[@Louts]

I wish. They won’t tho because the PS3 was running different chip architecture.

[@TylarScott-Tate]

I ment downloading

[@williamwhitehead4859]

They're not done yet they're going to do more

[@Netami923]

I hope they add more games like Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven or Bloody Roar 3

[@Dimez757]

Keep em coming PlayStation! This is awesome! Finally these companies realizing we all love our older games more than the crap that’s getting put out now.

[@packers4life21]

@retrorebound8887 LEGO Star Wars didn't get trophies. Are they coming later? Or do you know something I dont?

[@lonreed9743]

I’m loving the classics but, my trophies don’t always pop on PS4. Replaying on PS5 usually works fine.

[@perceptionist7]

Hopefully they’ll release Sly2 and Sly3 too.

[@TheNawaf258]

Don’t forget about ghost hunter also coming to ps plus

[@arthurmaxson9698]

Really wish they would fix the limited input controls for the anolog stick. Only 8 directions really sucks and ruins these games.

[@mjdf122]

PS3 is the real console that’s backwards compatible with PS1 PS2 CD DVD Blu Ray and Region Free

[@josesalgado1870]

Can I restore ps2 games in my ps5 from my old ps3 purchases? Or have to buy same games again

[@bobafettjm]

Hey Matty, have you ever dove in to Retro Achievements?

[@adroharv5140]

rewinding and save states are a fantastic feature but they do destroy the original feel because it becomes just part of the game choice ie it effectively is a means to cheat. The argument used that you don't have to use them is a daft one because while certainly true, if the options had been there originally then people would have used them. The point is it destroys authenticity of the original intended experience. And that's fine if you don't care but plenty do so it's a shame you can't disable them as part of the initial save select so to lock their use, meaning you can't use them no matter. That way you truly don't have to use these but also can't if you so desire. Simple

[@Ding-2014]

Or ya'know just don't use them...

[@LOSTMEDIASPAIN]

They should add the DLC for ToyStory3 for Psp too (for free please) the ps2 version is the same but with all the dlc included. In my opinion, the Ps2/Psp is a way better game, great 3d platformer.

[@heartlesslucas7781]

Unfortunately there's a lot of terrible ports on the PS4/5 such as the Jak & Daxter trilogy being buggy, glitchy messes. Really wish they didn't do the Jak series so dirty.

[@Lots-Of-People-are-Saying]

Now if only I could change the inputs on Star wars bounty Hunter. It's unplayable for me without it.

[@Tamikiry]

July 4 here and they havent anounced anything ps2 for this month guess they already got tired of the project i hope im just impatient

[@Kickoff324]

Where is half life 1 on ps2

[@ASLTheatre]

I have a few PS2 disks! Can I get them to work on my PS5 some how?

[@newjackgaming88]

nope

[@ASLTheatre]

@@newjackgaming88 sad day :(

[@243Abolerz]

WE NEED SOCOM