Mondeo ST220's And Moosing Noise Proof

In this video we prove that the Moosing noise on my Mondeo ST220 was down to the Air Idle Control Valve by fitting it to Gary's st220 and seeing it we can recreate the Moosing noise on his car. We also look at some differences between both our cars. I also fit a new stereo.
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[@craigjarvis9489]

Hi Martin. For future reference, there is a very quick and cheap fix to cure the moosing. I've had my St220 for almost 8 years and in that time, i've replaced the idle control valve at least 3 times. After about every 2 years or so, back comes the moosing again. I got fed up of paying out £67 a pop for new valves, that essentially worked fine other than making the noise. I found this fix on Ford Wiki and it works fine. Moosing gone forever. You just need to get hold of a standard 15mm copper pipe, soldered end cap. And drill a 6mm hole in the centre. On the engine, there is a breather pipe, that goes from the air intake bellows, to the uim. Just behind the throttle linkage. Pull the uim end off and put the copper cap in the metal outlet from the uim. It is a perfect fit and the raised part around the outer on the copper piece, stops it from going all the way in to the uim, ie getting sucked in. Refit the pipe, start the engine, no more moosing. Total cost about £2.50.👍

[@anthonyfairbanks1387]

Hi Martin I recently purchased a st220 petrol in Blue it had engine management light on (purge valve) and it was moosing really annoying...after watching your videos on both these issues I replaced both parts same as what you did and both problems have been rectified so thanks to you and your channel I'm really happy so keep going mate us blokes in our 50's can still do it mate 😀

[@dalethomas360]

Subscribed, purely for the proper music on the intro. Following for Mondeo content. Thank you 👌

[@retrorestore]

Can't beat a bit of Ska bud, thanks for the sub.

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

They're good guys, Martin often responds to questions on old videos too, he actually cares about us fellow DIY people! 😃

[@TheSavageGarage]

Your calliper/Disc setup looks the same as mine, off a focus st225

[@retrorestore]

Yes James, I think it is. Nice set up.

[@scorcha100]

Is the st225 a straight swap?

[@retrorestore]

@@scorcha100 i think so

[@paulcarlin6789]

Yea it’s a popular upgrade. Standard set up was always very soft because of the weight. It’s callipers and carriers you need and it’s a straight swap.

[@scorcha100]

Paul Carlin cheers for that. Id better get on the hunt 👍🏾

[@davidharris328]

Glad you proved the cause of the moosing noise i.e ( tried the suspect Idle air control valve on a Known to be Good ST220 which did not have the moosing problem) The radio fit / cables look interesting. Why do people leave a thumbs down??? Its a perfectly good video, that proves the moosing noise fault. Keep up the good work on the ST220 videos, ill be watching them all.

[@danbarnes4069]

Thanks matey, referred back to these vids of yours as I had a bout of moosing!

[@Kacpa2]

Happy days!

[@just_budha212]

Luv these sleeper cars

[@jonost24]

When I had my ST24, it moosed, but I put a plastic tapered domestic radiator valve cap in one of the pipes. To make it work I had to drill a small hole though the centre. I started off small then slightly enlarged it until the moosing went. I think I ended up with about a 4mm hole in the centre. That fix worked on the ST24, might be different set up on the 220

[@Deere2450]

Got a ST200 that wants to be one with the Norwegian forest. Put a bong in and that helped stopping it, but now I struggle with coldstarts in wintertime. Will try taking the bong out and replacing the valve 👍

[@damienobrien1463]

i love my mk 3 mondeo(1.8) is absolutely love to get my hands on an st 220

[@Britec09]

I do like the blue colour Martin, I tried to get rid that moose in mine, but she won't leave me lol

[@Charlie_Crown]

Silly old moo 😅👍

[@retrorestore]

Yes Bri, I like it too.

[@vijayantgovender2045]

Thank you Martin and Gary enjoy watching the car videos I am from South Africa

[@superseven220]

I've been buying that Mannol oil for years in my MK4 Mondeo tdci and I do around 25,000 miles a year. It's OEM spec as you say. It's on 210,000 miles now and still runs great. They also do one for Volkswagons and other manufacturers

[@D3f1anCE]

couple of things...on the silver 220, move the intake down to the lower grill. will eliminate heat soak and improve performance...calipers are focus st225 asbos on the blue 220.

[@retrorestore]

Nice tip, Yes, I know they are from the ST225 now. Nice calipers.

[@dillon02]

Hey martin i just wanna point out very quick at 1:27 in the video you can see garrys address. I thought id make you aware so he dont get unwanted stuff sent to his house 👍

[@dillon02]

@Ellis The DJ i know but it just the fact that if the right person sees it and they can make it more clear to read

[@-EC002-]

@Ellis The DJ Actually that's pretty clear, I could read all of it.

[@dillon02]

@Ellis The DJ i was able to read it fine but it doesn't hurt to make martin and garry aware of it bud

[@dillon02]

@Ellis The DJ I know i want saying you was thats all bud atleast martin and garry are aware of it

[@gulfstream7235]

In fairness, who gives a shit

[@scottstrails9369]

Top Tips from top guys....knicked our Scott’s trails plates...keep them vids coming 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💥💥💥

[@roguetrooper1000]

I just got 1 ..54plate in performance blue ...so we need more st220 videos

[@billywhizz98]

Great advice in using the manufacturers oil you cannot go wrong mondeo STs road springs are 10mm lower than standard cars and where factory fitted as standard

[@singh-sks]

The stuck cd in Sony stereo is a easy fix , if you take the cover of stereo small screws then you can just move the cd that’s stuck up and out of slot, it happened a few times on my one

[@roystheboy]

both cars are coming along great

[@BrewabitRick]

Brilliant you have saved so many ford owners trouble. Nice work guys 👍👍 £90 to put it on the computer 😢

[@ChazzCoombes]

I use Mannol stuff for my oils and fluids. Nice little video, guys. Thanks for the stickers Martin.

[@retrorestore]

Glad you got them Chazz

[@barbarawiddowson635]

Very amoosing video Martin! lol.I loved the number plate change on Gary's vid and your reaction.Stay Safe.

[@retrorestore]

Thanks Barbara.👍 I see what you did there lol

[@flynnpaterson5604]

“Got more moose than a reindeer convention” 😂😂

[@StevenSmyth]

We can get the OEM oil from Germany here in the US, it’s only $55, but it’s over $200 to ship. It might be less for folks in the East, I live in the northwest so that’s a non-starter for me.

[@moonmoo5181]

Gd work mate

[@andrewwoodward6560]

You guys are having fun, very cool ! ✌️

[@paulillingworth1242]

Rear lights are different, the blue one has the face lifted rear lights 😁 both look nice 👍🏼

[@PurpleHelmet]

Lovely pair of Mondeo's fellas!

[@anth0ny1990]

Gary needs change his rear lights to the facelift ones like you have makes a huge difference on appearance, used own a 2002 st220 loved it mine had full miltek exhaust running 265bhp it went well got video of it on my channel of the exhaust

[@grahamevans9606]

Martin. I would look at a Head Unit that looks OEM. The operating system can either be Android or Wince6. I fitted these in my girls Focus Cab, my Rover 75 and her new Audi TT MK2.. You get sat nav, usb etc and they intergrate with your steering controls nicely. Ebay or preferably Amazon...plenty of choice. Just type in 'Mondeo Mk3 Satnav head unit'. The Android units are more expensive, but the WinCe versions are plenty good enough and cheaper....say £150 to £200. They are a very simple fit.

[@retrorestore]

I've already got one Graham, i'll be doing a vid on it soon.

[@Dazza2292]

The blues probably on the eibach sport springs. I fitted them to my st when i had it and it dropped the same. The brakes looked like focus St fronts

[@haydenuk02]

I like the blue st looks better in my option than the silver. Keep up the hard work and thanks for the content

[@petefroud5308]

The chuckle brothers are back.

[@davesempire8287]

Going to be very nice cars when you two are done with them. Ill take the blue one

[@DiecastPowderCoating]

Nice relaxing video, after a day at work. Take care Jeff

[@retrorestore]

Thanks Jeff👍

[@stuhollyhead4294]

I knew u would of thought of the moose check but i did mention it to u.. great vid as per both..

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

I don't really like lowering, but at least there's no induction nonsense.

[@lazylolski]

Mine moossed brought a second hand IAC and that moossed as well (buy cheap buy twice,) So i fitted a moosing pipe. problem solved so the pipe does work as well

[@callumlazenby5544]

Been and subscribe and also the savage garage love his videos

[@stanelder9995]

I would have tried to source another (working) OE stereo along with a bluetooth adapter to keep it looking standard!

[@dodgydruid]

Comma oils, I seem to remember had a thing with Ford as Comma was a stones throw from Dagenham across the water and also Ford Sheppey but Ford Germany became the new focus and Ford UK was demoted to a satellite to Cologne. I love Ford V6's, better than an eight anyday imho, back in me boy racery days my uncle gave me a much loved, used and abused RS3100 from a totalled Capri from his scrappy and I shoved that into Transit's, Cortina's then I made the big mistake of selling it to a brother of a bird I was seeing and I think he put it into a MK2 Cortina estate doing it up like a Savage and made a fortune and the bird chucked me so I came away with a double bad deal. Did you know Aston Martin's have a V12 made by shoving two of your engines together? So you could theoretically fit an Aston V12 in there and really put the frights up the missus O.o

[@retrorestore]

Didn't know that Ian. Food for thought lol

[@Howdedoda]

Martin anything else instead of the St cars??

[@retrorestore]

What do you mean

[@68xperfectx]

Good video Martin, on the cd auto changer on my saab to put a cd in I have to push the button that corresponds to the location that I want it to go ( 1 to 6 ) before the unit will accept it, maybe worth a try.

[@retrorestore]

I have a new system now.

[@ASH.......................1976]

I said I thought it had been lowered when you first showed your car Martin 👍😊

[@retrorestore]

You are correct

[@ASH.......................1976]

@@retrorestore anyway martin,you know you've got the better car ! I do ,you could say ' your the daddy' !!😆👍

[@billywhizz98]

Martin to get the cd out obviously you need it powered up all you need to do is use something like a feeler gage in the cd loading slot put the feeler gage in just under the cd and keep pressing the reject button that’s why they did in the ford dealers when it happened to mine nd believe it or not the car was only 2 months old

[@retrorestore]

I've got a new system now William

[@justinarcher7498]

Well done Martin just proves your not daft

[@retrorestore]

I may be just a little bit lol

[@edd6113]

Won't be for a long time but next time, price check your oil and filters with a Ford dealers parts counter. You might be surprised, always by my oil from them and you get the ford/castrol branded stuff cheaper than off brand oil.

[@classicgamer4451]

Martin the rear tail lights are different as well 👍

[@jaggass]

I'd consider fitting the Mongoose exhausts Gary has on his.

[@matthewcross437]

how do you do an easy fix, the sagging ass rear bumper?

[@RicardoManu83]

Hello, I ask you, have you ever changed the air compressor pulley of a Ford Mondeo mk3?

[@retrorestore]

No I haven't

[@vdubs6068]

Great Vid Martin 👍

[@retrorestore]

Thanks 👍

[@zodiotekgaming]

I've been looking into buying an St220 in black but I'm now hesitant to do it because 2005 reg and 174k miles on it. On the MOT history I bet it was used a lot for motorway driving and it's had the work done that it's needed but is this too high mileage for these?

[@retrorestore]

I would look for a 2004 as the road tax on a 2005 is over £500 where a 2003/4 is £340. I would also look for one under 110,000

[@tddy-pm9cw]

Bye for now Martin👍🏼matey👍🏼

[@darrenpayne2245]

Hi can you tell me what the difference is between mondeo 2.2 tdci and the St tdci thanks

[@retrorestore]

I'm not sure, Sorry. Someone else may know

[@andrewlaw]

Martin, out of curiosity could you clean the IAC valve with some throttle body cleaner or is it totally non serviceable? I'm curious why it makes that sound, it sounds like something's resonating in it.

[@retrorestore]

it wasn't really dirty Andrew. I think it may be the spring had weakened causing the oscillation.

[@mitchellcarter3996]

Hi Martin, thanks for all your videos, really helped years ago when changing my aux belt system, Can you let me know where I can get the radio from as I want to upgrade mine to a DAB but don't want to lose the controls on my steering wheel

[@retrorestore]

I have just bought a new Atoto A Pro Android system. I'll be installing it soon on video.

[@mitchellcarter3996]

Cool, can you put a link in that video for the wire adapter please so I keep steering wheel control

[@csquire3]

Is their a comfort compromise when going for the lower eibach springs?

[@retrorestore]

Not really but is handles great now

[@peteramberley9952]

Nice vid mart

[@owenthomas6731]

I can’t find the vactan you used in one of your videos

[@retrorestore]

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VACTAN-RUST-CONVERTER-AND-PRIMER-250ml-RUST-TREATMENT/110979877654?hash=item19d6ea8b16:g:HfsAAOxy79JRg0Fy

[@themowerman]

Was that a spice girls cd in your car Martin 🧚 lol looks like chops for dinner.. nice to see you too working together

[@retrorestore]

No Mick, it was the Nolans lol

[@themowerman]

@@retrorestore lol

[@zdenekoldrichmarek2867]

I think that people who keep a Moose in the car should also kick it out to cure the noise. HA HA

[@billwhitmore3852]

Anyone know if the original sony stereo 6cd has bluetooth?? 2007 model

[@andy_v4443]

was a bit SLY gary getting the reg plate...............oh il get me coat lol..........

[@kevinpratt8122]

The regs are different🤣

[@grahamredmond28]

Hi mate I would suggest a Kayhan as a replacement All Android an a factory fit The company ( founded in Germany in 1997) make replacement radios etc for hundreds of cars Google them up Cheers Graham

[@retrorestore]

I've already got a new unit Graham, I'll show it in a later video.

[@richardrushton7460]

i have a bit of deja vu lol i think there may need to be some scheduling sorted for scrap it mans vids and yours also can i get a link to the led lights that you and gary have the usb powered one

[@retrorestore]

Here's the light link amzn.to/3aJs8Br

[@bumpkinrocks]

1's blue the others Silver🤣

[@mcboney1489]

If the idle control valve is faulty can it cause a lack of power above 4000 rpm? As I've took mine off and the plunger inside doesn't move when you start the car. many thanks.

[@retrorestore]

It should move easily. Maybe get a new one

[@mcboney1489]

@@retrorestore thankyou for your reply.

[@MitchJackson94]

You can get a android double din screen radio thats a direct fit without a cadge and looks more OEM look up xtrons ford on amazon

[@retrorestore]

I've already got a new unit Mitch, I'll show it in a later video.

[@DADSATWAR]

Yours are off a focus st better than the standard brakes

[@DADSATWAR]

Just remember when u need discs and pads to try find a focus st reg to get the right pads and discs

[@chrismatthews6411]

Do track days with them both.

[@jaydakin1098]

Where did you get the spray jets from for the window wipers?

[@retrorestore]

I think he got them on Ebay.

[@edwardthomas9671]

Have you noticed the different colour yet 😉😉

[@minisareus]

You can get oil from Opie oils online

[@billwhitmore3852]

Yeah my strut caps are missing

[@richiedawz2282]

just a thought are the wheel rims the same 18" size on both cars.

[@retrorestore]

Yes bud.

[@Garage1093]

МММ, две STешки, прикольно!

[@mr2madness52]

Are mustangs any good 2005-2009

[@fru1t1]

👍👍

[@AJPsWorkshop]

Great video Martin that proved it was the part in fault making the moosing noise did you get my email thanks

[@retrorestore]

I don't know Ash, I'll have to check

[@user-zj6nq3cm5y]

Почему у нас в России одна шляпа из авто ?!?! Я хочу чтобы у нас такие были авто и много запчастей на них

[@mrrustman1657]

Your ST looks like a boy racer car. Gary's looks more mature!

[@sidthescenic09]

your callipers could of come from a focus st.

[@retrorestore]

Yes, I think so

[@jeffjohnson847]

Your back lights a different mate

[@retrorestore]

Yes they are Jeff

[@butler386]

Excellent moosing proof. You two are very talented. Can you move and be my neighbor?

[@retrorestore]

Haha, its a bit far lol

[@wallacemassey1371]

Martin I might be wrong but your st badge looks to be to far over.

[@retrorestore]

I don't know, Its how it came.

[@stevek3036]

5* result with the moose - age and experience always triumphs - well dun - Top Trumps time - who's is better

[@victor58010]

Bit bloody miserable , your boy - wouldn't hurt him to smile now and again.

[@retrorestore]

There's always a reason bud.

[@3-cpo574]

One won't pass a mot, the other might?

[@retrorestore]

Amazing how you know what the future holds.

[@dmr859]

🤣🤣🤣🤣