RetroTINK 2x Pro: Classic Consoles on Flat-Panel TV's

[@Aberusugi]

Sold mine to a friend at work for a big discount who expressed dismay that their old N64 won't work on their new tv. I still have an RT5X pro and works great. No reason for me personally to get an RT4k but I can see it being useful for content creators and such who want high quality reference footage for b-roll and stuff like that.

[@196cupcake]

Exactly! If you're interested in upgrading to one of the older RetroTINK products, just stay on the look out for deals over the next few months/years.

[@HadesHotgun]

This is such a refreshing video. I got a ton of use out of my RT2x and it's an even better device now than it was back then.

[@jessek8137]

Retrotink products are amazing. I have the OG Tink2x (the acrylic sandwich model). After getting out of the Navy and finding all my old consoles, it was (and still is) an excellent solution to connecting a pile of game consoles to a modern TV. I've since upgraded my TV, have a Retrotink 5X, and upgraded my video cables to component, but the 2X is a fantastic way to just get started when you have a bunch of composite video game consoles (and a VCR). No new cables to buy, no hardware mods, it just works great!

[@emrexis]

For people that mainly deals with 480i input (like ps2, gamecube) for IPS / OLED panels I strongly suggest other scalers that have motion adaptive deinterlacing (such as GBS Control) as Bob deinterlacing that 2X Pro has can cause SEVERE IMAGE RETENTION. It might or might not be curable depending on the severity but I would not take my chances.. Bob deinterlace doesn't cause image retention on VA and TN panel though, so just take this into consideration.

[@MrAlexmbat]

that was a very rough lesson for me to learn, IPS displays won't retain it for more than a couple of hours on older models, but I'm not gonna test an OLED with it given they have a lower expected life span.

[@emrexis]

@@MrAlexmbat yeah.. it happened on my IPS panel too and I also heard horror stories from people around the net :') such a shame since Bob deinterlace cause no lag and produce sharp image

[@ashcliffeable]

What do you recommend? Retrotink 5x? I’m just diving in and looking for recommendations. It’s a lot to take in.

[@emrexis]

@@ashcliffeable as I said, GBS control or retrotink 5X is also much better if more expensive (or anything that have motion adaptive deinterlacing)

[@Ichabod_Jericho]

Explain this in dummy terms for me😂 does severe image retention mean if I leave it paused for hours and come back to it the image will be burned into the pixels? Or if I’m playing a game that has a constant heads up display of health and ammo that will burn into the TV?

[@sonicpelaaja]

I had no idea it doesn't accept 480p input. I always learns something new from your videos.

[@TVsBen]

The discontinued RetroTINK 2X Multi-Format accepted 480p signals and just passed them through, and even 720p with experimental firmware that technically overclocked it. It became unnecessary with the release of the 5X Pro.

[@ps3inquisition441]

I wasn’t aware of the firmware update for the 2X, guess I’ll be updating mine today

[@coffeecuparcade]

100% agree with you! We still use 2 of the Retrotink 2x Pros and 1 of the Retrotink 2x SCARTs. I love them so much.

[@sixtyfps]

Great follow-on video to your previous introduction to scalers

[@76_SPZL]

I have an LG C1 hooked up to a Super Famicom w/ HD Retrovision cables. It looks incredible. I love my 2x Pro.

[@Gumshoe21]

I just ordered this from Mike Chi a few days ago. My 2x-Mini's microUSB port kinda bit the dust so I opted for this one as a replacement (great product, gamed on it for 2-3 years). As someone who uses mostly S-Video and sometimes composite and may upgrade to RGB in the future, this one's perfect for me. Reasonable price to boot. Glad you made this video, perfect timing!

[@Chilakilman]

I just got a RAD2X for my JVC X'EYE, and I'm very pleased with it. Great video. Cheers from Mexico.

[@RetroRGB]

The RAD2x was also made by Mike and is essentially the same thing...so excellent choice!! :)

[@MarkCurtis-u6o]

I still use my OG 2X daily. It was and still is a great value.

[@DeathMetalJedi]

This is my first time coming across this channel and that intro is fantastic. The video was great too lol

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks very much!!!

[@niklinders1579]

My favorite part of the video is where you’re slightly lifting all of the consoles and scalers a little bit, and then putting them back down, for no reason whatsoever 🤷. Seriously though, awesome and really clear video - as always. Thanks, I think this video was needed, and can’t think of anyone better to make it.

[@RetroRGB]

Lmao, I never know what to do for these b-roll shots.

[@gaetan4164]

I have one for my N64 and it's gold. It just fucking works. This plus a good S-video cable and the output is CRISP. I simply don't need anything else. 100% worth the money.

[@ZakkHung]

I'm ordering the RetroTink 2X for my Saturn. I plan to use S-video to it and am looking forward to the results. 😊

[@_BELMONT_]

What a pleasant surprise! Thanks for some great content this morning, your videos are a great escape for me! :)

[@chrisfullerton7266]

got a 2xpro on the way.....im excited

[@AdmirtheSableye]

I have a 2X-pro that I use for content creation and it's perfect. I use S-video and it looks great to me. Even if it was an accidental purchase. I would recommend it if you just want to use S-video for old consoles.

[@MrMoroPlays]

Oh no that bit about combining the 2x pro to the OSSC pro is going to open the floodgates for people who want to use scalers into the RT4K 😅

[@RetroRGB]

I mean, no need to, since the RT4K has every input you’d need. But I do think it’s helpful for other scalers.

[@MrMoroPlays]

@@RetroRGB I wholeheartedly agree, but the amount of times that question has come up on the RT4K discord makes me think it’s probably going to happen more than everybody thinks

[@iroquoispliskin155]

That intro is criminally insane

[@bowi1332]

Great video, as always. I'm happy I bought the 2X-Mink while it was available. 🙂

[@TheBroz]

What a great video. I love your presentation style and tone, it's really welcoming and informative.

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks very much!!

[@mpxz999]

Whoa whoa even if I lived in a billion dollar home, I'd still have Ikea Kallax shelves! Great video! Super informative

[@RetroRGB]

:)

[@64bitRewind]

I love playing my N64 with my Insurrection S-Video cable and the 2X-Pro!

[@timneumann7184]

Appreciate the segment on computer CRT's. Just got a Gateway EV700b for free the other day. While it was awfully dim at first switching to a different VGA cable to the PC and playing around with the dos game settings helped quite a bit. Like you're Gateway 2000 crt better though, it looks brand new!

[@TruGamer128]

What a great video dude. Very thoughtful of you to include the different consoles people might be buying for. For my Wii I think the 5X Pro will work best. Happy gaming!

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks very much!

[@jbates237]

glad theses are available. I own 2 RetroTink2xs and they have surpassed all expectations and @mikechi and his fam definitely have a definite eye for detail.

[@xXhikashiXx]

The 2x pro has been an amazing device i just sold it to upgrade to the 5x still reccomend the 2x for snyone who wants to get an entry point

[@zachtaylor9817]

very interesting and useful video don’t stop making these man you’re the best

[@JD3Gamer]

There was also a, I believe, limited edition 2X Pro that did support 480p pass through. That’s what I use for my CRT computer monitor setup.

[@RetroRGB]

Yup, the 2x Multiformat. That was a bit of a nice product and discontinued...but it was great and it was a necessary step to get to the RT5x, so a win overall! :)

[@Sayajiin2]

Really interesting video Bob!

[@Shinya_]

Want to say if you think you are in an area that that doesn't have crt's just be patient like Bob said. I was walking to work last week and one of the nail salons put out an old crt TV for some one to take so I did had to go into the service menu to fix the image but now looks just as good as my old family crt we still have

[@Oni64]

This thing with S-video for the N64 is enough i'd say.

[@rossgirdeen3247]

S video look good. Get a high quality cable though.

[@chaseaustinmusic]

Thank you for your content, keeping coming

[@CollinKenny]

Thanks Bob!

[@locked01]

I remember you suggested me to use the VCR trick for my Master System II PAL. I still have to try it, but, before modifying it to RGB. Maybe I will just like the AV signal.

[@jpb7875]

Best value for money by far. Seriously. Thanks Mr. RGB Bob and Mike Chi.

[@ZeroUm_]

I'd go: - RTK 2X, if you own a pre-1999 console, and you just don't want to bother tinkering or you can't use one because of the reasons in the video; - RTK 5X, if you can step up, buy nice cables, tinker around with the settings, go beyond the basics, buy a medium to high-end OLED; - RTK 4K, only if you offer professional services, like digitalizing VHS tapes with the maximum quality you can achieve, if you earn money off consoles(not even old, like the Switch) streaming personally/in events, of if you are willing to spend thousands on high quality PVMs.

[@jakesteel2423]

Hopefully getting the rt4k next week, just gotta figure out what to do with my original retrotink 2x and mclassic

[@RetroRGB]

Sell them on eBay for a fair price. People seeing this video might be trying to pick up a 2x Pro on a budget, so you could help. And, everyone wins: Mike get's a new sale, someone else gets a cheaper RT2x and you get some cash back :)

[@jakesteel2423]

@@RetroRGB will probably end up doing that! I've got the old style 2x so I'm thinking that may only get 40$ but it still helps towards the 4k!

[@Hobojoe4464]

​@@jakesteel2423that or gift it to someone in your life will who will appreciate it. Either way it's better then it collecting dust instead of being used.

[@strictlynineties]

If my TV already has component in, would a 2X Pro and mclassic actually do anything positive, or would it just pass through the signal and be a waste of money?

[@kdkseven]

mclassic lol

[@craigachuff6087]

I have the 2x multiformat mainly for PS2 and Original XBOX. Works great.

[@RetroRGB]

I didn’t mention it, because it’s discontinued…but that’s a GREAT choice for those two consoles!

[@PureWickedAU]

Great product, bought for my Japanese import Pioneer LD-S9 Laserdisc player, looks amazing on my 4k LCD, compared to no upscale, would also be great for VCR etc.... also I might hook my Sega Saturn up to compare it to Saturn running onmy Mister fpga

[@nvc.]

I have the tink2x multi (the smoke black one) that can handle 480p for the same price has this tink2x. In fact i have all of retrotink products and love them a lot.

[@RetroRGB]

Yeah, that one's perfect for PS2. I didn't mention it, cause it's no longer being sold...but if you already own one, hold onto it!

[@strictlynineties]

​@@RetroRGB Why particularly the PS2? The PS2 had the least amount of 480P games of the 6th generation consoles.

[@jengelenm]

It’s a shame is still don’t have an upscaler, after all these years of retro-gaming. And now that all the high-end stuff is out, i don’t have the money, cause my car broke :( i’m curious when the morph reviews will come, cause it’s already sold (as pre-order i believe)

[@jocool7370]

Yep, just because the newer model is damn good, doesn't mean the older model is trash.

[@Chris-Courage]

They need to restock the 2x-scart version.

[@Wobble2007]

I was just watching a couple Simpsons season 4 eps from the DVD on my Sony E530 CRT monitor, by default it doesn't look to bad at all, ovviously much better than on an LCD, but when I fired up the Tink's scanline generator, it really increased the fidelity of the 576i video quality, it actually got rig of any image noise, gave it at least 3x resolution perception, so given how big of an improvment that was, I tried rendering it at 240p72hz (3x24hz), and it really took it up another notch in terms of IQ, the Simpsons DVD's @ 240p72hz look amazing, and I really like the scanline image qualty, it makes The Simpsons feel so much more authentic and nostalgic to watch, of course I could just watch it on a consumer CRT in 576i RGB, another great option, I even have a late 90s V-Flat curved Sony Trinitron 25" that can downscale/transcode RGB 480i/576i to 240p/288p on the fly, and it really does a nice job of it, it looks stunning, I love using it for DC and PS2 (those awsome M2 ports adn compilations look so much better in 240p vs the otherwise locked @ 480i NTSC or 576i PAL), but the scanlines are no where near as prominent as the E530 monitor with a SLG.

[@brendanlafferty9814]

Do you recommend a good hdmi switcher if I wanted multiple retrotinks? Thanks!

[@yournightmare86]

Great video, I purchased one from one of your links. What are the wires that I will need for NES, SNES and N64? Where can I buy them?

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks! For NES, any composite RCA cable will work. N64’s need a mod for RGB, but if you wanted S-Video, all you’d need is a cable. …and for SNES, you could use whatever you’d like: Composite, the same S-Video cable as N64 or RGB. I link to all my favorite cables here: www.retrorgb.com/systems.html

[@RenegadeX28]

Wish the Retrotink Mini was still a thing. It's hard buying them from Ebay.

[@RetroRGB]

Yeah, the part shortage killed that :/

[@joeybauer720]

Have one, for my nes,super nes .its great,don’t have any more room for a crt

[@196cupcake]

Back in the day we'd just put the new one on top of the broken TV.

[@rescuecomplex5115]

Hi. Why when connecting the Seiki U-Vision cable to the 2x pro i don't get any image? The Seiki cable accepts 576p.

[@BrianBorkowski]

Idk why Mike stopped selling the Retrotink 2x Pro Multiformat for 480p signals. That was a great one too.

[@Hobojoe4464]

In a a interview with Bob, Mike said it was missing a key part and probably won't come back in the foreseeable future. Clip about the minis but if you jump back in the full video a bit to the 1 hour 45s mark, Mike talks about it kzbin.infoUgkx31hExAEptJRD1ujdKeMwSDXLBPEptsNO?si=zzMR5Msx0PBYc17k The M was the first Tink I got. It's great for what it does but it unfortunately doesn't have the smoothing or sharp function. Where it sort if sits between the Sharp and Smooth of the Regular 2x Pro. I ended up just using it for my 6th Gen consoles for it's 480p pass through and ended up buying the regular 2x pro down the road for all my 5th Gen and earlier ones because of it. What is really weird is how it's product page has been removed from the Retrotink website and you have to go to a separate site if you want the firmware update files. Or you have to use the Wayback Machine if you want to get it from its archived pages.

[@dullah1434]

I have a Toshiba regza 52RV530U LCD TV from 2008. I has all of the inputs I need for my consoles old and new. What kind of scaler would be good? Would the Retrotink 2X be good enough?

[@RetroRGB]

Yup, as long as the RT2x has the inputs that match your consoles, it’s a great choice.

[@Prime-1111X]

9:07 Hmmm..... passthru with the OSSC Pro. I wonder if I can do the same with my RetroTINK Scart and Framemeister? If not, then I'm going to wait until the RetroTINK 4K release date.

[@marinab8205]

Liked this video! Are you going to do a review of the OSSC Pro? I'm finding it really hard to find detailed information on it

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks! I did a full overview with the creator of the OSSC Pro. Once it's back in stock, I'll probably do a full video, but this has a ton of info and tests: kzbin.infoQqhnW6B1D54

[@300bhpton]

You mention consoles. How about an Amiga 600. Would it be a good choice for that too?

[@ITISWHATIS]

0:06 I got one of those!

[@SLICK8116]

Whats the best power supply to use with the 2x pro? Using a regular usbc charger creates wavy lines

[@RetroRGB]

The RT2x is a very low power device, so you can even try to power it from the USB port on your TV. Also, Mike added protection, so if there isn’t enough power, it just won’t work…but no damage will occur. So use anything and see what happens :)

[@flecz4h]

great video!

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks!

[@BEN_HARDY]

Instead of using a VCR you could use a RF Modulator or RF coaxial to RCA Converter

[@RetroRGB]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpnSe6OBqrFme7c

[@duhmez]

If I set passthrough on 480i, together with decomb, will it send a pure 480p signal to the tv? Dont want 480i to hit my tv, big lag

[@RetroRGB]

No, passthrough will send whatever it receives. So 480i in = 480i out when in passthrough mode.

[@trigger796]

I have a splitter box that I connect all my consoles to, then it goes out to one composite set of cables. This is probably a stupid question is it fine if I run the composite cables coming from the splitter to the Tink?

[@RetroRGB]

As long as the splitter is powered, it's totally fine. If it's just a "Y circuit", with no active buffer then it's not. I don't think they sold many "bad" ones though, for this exact reason.

[@tmarioman]

You should review the GameStop HDMI Component Converter and the GameStop Universal RCA to HDMI Converter. they are from GameStop themselves.

[@RetroRGB]

It’s the exact same garbage, with a GameStop logo on it.

[@JLocke573]

I'm a little confused on the resolution with the Ps2. Does the 2x output 1080p? I'm also trying to understand the benefit of the 2x or similar product compared to a much cheaper ps2 to hdmi adapter that utilizes the component signal.

[@RetroRGB]

2X only outputs 480p. Cheaper HDMI adapters are REALLY laggy. Check out this video for more info: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipXJd6GIYs2CgZosi=9E9_EgvpBg41cTBu

[@DexTepa]

Yeah, I'll be needing one of these once my current TV (Sony KDL-32WD753) dies, since new ones don't have SCART. I don't get the obsession with raw pixels, though. That stuff just makes my eyes hurt. Sorry if I don't have thing for rectangles, I guess. I don't think PAL GameCube does 480p, so that should still work on this? What about games that swap resolutions (Chrono Cross, etc.)? Will those be an issue? Edit: Oh, some TVs have a "mini-composite" input (TRRS). That'll have to do.

[@hollowsephiroth]

So random question: I bought my Tink 2x Pro back in 2020 and never once upgraded the firmware. Just recently I decided to take the plunge and I upgraded to the most recent HEX. When I updated, should I have upgraded incrementally through each HEX or does the most recent version have all the updates of previous versions included?

[@RetroRGB]

Great question, but don’t worry, just loading the last firmware gets you everything :)

[@pawned79]

(Born 1979) My 7yo is starting to play my consoles, and I have the NES, SNES, N64, and PSOne (small) hooked up to my Yamaha RX-V657 A/V receiver. I hooked up the receiver composite video to my Sony XBR-75X850D, and all the characters look like they’ve gone through a bread slicer due to interlacing. Since you said the Tink 2 doesn’t work for 1999+ consoles, my question is do we believe it will NOT work for the A/V receiver?

[@RetroRGB]

Using an A/V receiver is the same (or worse) than plugging directly into a flat-panel TV. Please check out this video for all the info: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipXJd6GIYs2CgZo

[@pawned79]

@@RetroRGB Thank you for the reply and the other video. Very helpful. I just consulted the RX-V657 manual, and the only pertinent info is that composite/S-video monitor out is 5Hz-60MHz w/ -3dB. Given what you said, and what I have seen, it looks like it is just passing-through the 240p analog to the TV input. I will go ahead and get one RT 2X Pro and see if that elevates the bread slicer effect. I also happened to own one of those “scam” composite-to-HDMI converters from Amazon, and sure enough that looked even worse!

[@Shadowwolf-1337]

the s-video cable that came with my retrotink fails to display color unless the wire is bent in very specific ways i am furious that the cable is already broken when i JUST got it especially when it's from a reputable source such as mike chi

[@jimmyrcg4966]

For reasons I'm locked to composite only so for the genesis and ps1 composite I'm worried the 2x won't like it Besides the long time and money investment to use rgb or component what should I do?

[@RetroRGB]

That’s a tough one. If you have the room, you can try to look for a small CRT. I still get them free a few times a year and it’s a perfect match for those consoles.

[@retrogametech1626]

I bought mine tonight but I got old crts with no imputes but cable so I’m still looking for Better ones I told my wife not to sell the two I had but she didn’t listen so now I gotta search garage sales this summer

[@RetroRGB]

You can get an old VCR and use it's composite video input to those RF-only TV's. I talk about it later in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpnSe6OBqrFme7c

[@196cupcake]

Ahh, heck yeah. One great thing about the RetroTINK-4K coming out is - most likely - a lot of used, but perfectly working upscalers - e.g. 2X-Pro - are going to be for sale, due to some people upgrading to the rt4k. Ebay / Facebook Market Place / Craig's List, etc. You'll be able to get one at a price lower than if you bought it new, there will be greater availability (no need to wait for them to get restocked!), and there are a ton of decent retro-gaming nerds who, no offense to anyone in particular, but people who probably won't try to scam you. So, I think RetroTINK-4K coming out is great news. With any luck, more people are going to get into the hobby, and that's a good thing. Great work, Bob, keep it up! (Just, please stay away from my dressage horse) ... /s

[@rickalbuquerque1205]

What would you recommend for connecting a PS2 to an OLED?

[@RetroRGB]

A RetroTINK 4K is best. But the TINK5x is also excellent

[@BobbyJoeLIVE]

i noticed my nintendo switch looks kinda pixelated and blown out on my 4k 55 samsung hdtv. would it look better or at least smoother on a 1080p?

[@RetroRGB]

Maybe. If you're an enthusiast that's really into this hobby, the RetroTINK 4K will make the switch look amazing on a 4KTV. If you're on a budget, you can always try the 4K Gamer Pro. Links: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2TIoWmprJWWbrs / kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5axopmZYtFjiJo

[@squidwardtentacles2736]

question here. I've learned there is a big difference between a line doubler and resolution upscaler as I thought it was the same for a while. Does the tink2xpro upscale the resolution or just line double or both? I'm looking for something to upscale ps2 and/or gamecube games and from my understanding line doublers wouldn't help anything as it's for 2d pixel games.

[@RetroRGB]

You’re mostly correct and on the right track. For those consoles, you’d want the RetroTINK 5x or 4K, the OSSC or OSSC Pro, or make a GBS-C if you’re on a budget. More explanation in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipXJd6GIYs2CgZosi=I29zn3s2XuRGSEqz

[@squidwardtentacles2736]

⁠thank you! when it comes to some tech, I feel like I have a good enough grasp b4 a new piece of info has me doubting myself lol. Great video BTW! Not too long or short but packed with good info 👍

[@hitman2393]

Is there another less expensive alternative to the Retrotink 5x Pro to use 480p with PS2, Xbox and Wii? I was thinking of buying the Retrotink 2x Pro but the fact that it doesn't support 480p via component cable is a bit disappointing. I'm looking for an entry level budget alternative to be able to use PS2 and Wii but also older retro consoles like PS1 or N64.

[@RetroRGB]

Yes, the GBS-Control - Just use quality component video cables and it'll look great: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJ7Jg2OOfpqWsKs

[@tech-ryze]

Is there any way to get a Retrotink 2x SCART in 2024?

[@mscottjohnson3424]

Not a RT2X question, but on the topic of not upgrading: I have a RT5X and a 4K TV (not an OLED), but I also have an older TV that maxes out at 1080p. Will the RT5X look any better or have less lag on a TV where its native resolution is what the 5X is feeding it?

[@RetroRGB]

The lag should be within a few milliseconds of each other. And it might look shaper, but that’s totally depending on the panel. I don’t think it would be a big difference in either case. Good questions though!

[@shoked99]

What happens to PS2 games with 480p modes? Nothing shows up on the TV? If the 480p mode is not enabled on the game will it work in 480i? IDK how many games are 480p only. I thought most required a button press to enable it.

[@RetroRGB]

You have to manually enable 480p mode on all PS2 games, so as long as you don’t do that all will work. If you accidentally do, you’ll get no signal. It won’t hurt anything though.

[@shoked99]

@@RetroRGB That makes sense and I think I would try that. Otherwise for 480p games I would want another scaler like the 5X, etc. or a CRT that supports 480p with component inputs. Thanks for all the info and the help.

[@sammorrow7007]

Does this have a scart socket? Our consoles came with RF leads then it was scarts upto the elite 360 consoles

[@RetroRGB]

No, but if you're just talking about composite video over SCART (not RGB SCART) then a cheap adapter can connect it to the composite video port on this. Also, I show an example in the video for RF :)

[@sammorrow7007]

@@RetroRGB thanks for the reply. I should have said rgb scart. You got the best image for the saturn and dc and gamecube with in pal

[@RetroRGB]

If you're using RGB SCART, definitively get an OSSC - It can't handle RF or composite, but it'll be awesome for those: www.retrorgb.com/ossc.html

[@mr.noneofyourbusiness4176]

How would the RetroTink 5x with an HDMI to Component converter look on a Sony Trinitron? I just want to know if any Sony Trinitron with Component input is worth it.

[@RetroRGB]

Do you mean downscaling a modern console to a CRT? I showed that in the RT5x video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKixo6R_n911l6M

[@mr.noneofyourbusiness4176]

@@RetroRGB I mean Retro Consoles that don't support 480p or depending on the CRT with Component 720p or 1080i.

[@RetroRGB]

Retro consoles that don't support 480p will connect directly to a Trinitron CRT via HD Retrovision component video cables. No scaler is necessary at all. Links to cables are on the website: www.retrorgb.com/systems.html ....unless you mean connect it to a VGS CRT monitor. Then watch this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n33Of2V3j7F1g6M I also strongly recommend watching this video, as it might clear up some confusion: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipXJd6GIYs2CgZo

[@mr.noneofyourbusiness4176]

@@RetroRGB What I mean is someone setup a RetroTink 5x to an HD CRT and it looks good. Here's the Video I'm talking about: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3OYlpWrmL9pb9U

[@RetroRGB]

Oh! You should have specified it's an HD CRT. And yes, that's an excellent solution. Light gun games won't work, but if you add basic scanlines, 240p will look exactly as it should. You'd just need the final 1.x firmware for the RetroTINK 5x...but TINK firmware is NOT locked, so even if you get one with a newer firmware, just load the older one and set it to 540p. Super easy. ...but if you don't own a CRT yet, just get ANY regular CRT and you won't need a scaler. This video has tons of info: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipXJd6GIYs2CgZo

[@KYBlueJedi]

@RetroRGB Is that a SVHS deck at 5:25? I see the s-video outputs. What model is it? Does it have TBC?

[@RetroRGB]

Yup! It's a JVC HR-S3800U. No TBC, but I'm working on a video now about external TBC's. Fingers crossed I find a cheap one!

[@vinceruvolo1372]

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question. I have a ps2 with component cables and a gamecube with composite cables. Would the RT2xPro work well for me? Would you recommend it?

[@RetroRGB]

While they would work, the RT2x isn’t the best choice. I’d suggest a GBS-C or RT5x. And I’d also get component cables for the GameCube as most games support 480p. It’ll be a massive upgrade from composite video.

[@vinceruvolo1372]

@@RetroRGB I think for me the GBS-C is above my ability. The Open Source Scan Converter, seemed like an option, but it doesn’t support composite cables. And is larger in size. I’m thinking it would be best to get component gamecube cables and then get the RT2xPro?

[@RetroRGB]

No, because once again, most GC games are 480p. Get a Carby for the Gamecube and just connect it direct to your TV: retrorgb.link/sagcarby For PS2, maybe get a pre-made GBS-C?

[@maxidzikowski33]

What do I need to convert PAL to NTSC? I just got a 2x pro thinking it would let me use a PAL Atari XEGS on my Bravia. If anyone sees this and has advice, I’d be very grateful.

[@RetroRGB]

They make specific converters for that, but all add lag. You can try looking for an RGB mod, as RGB is the raw colors with no regional colorspace applied.

[@maxidzikowski33]

@@RetroRGB Thanks for the response. Are there modders that offer this service if you send them an unmodded system?

[@julianB93]

So i own a Snes and a N64 but the 64 doesnt have RGB support. I have no space for a big crt TV even if it would be the best choice. I was thinking about buying either the 2x or 5x. Is there any reason to get the 5x over the 2x for those two devices?

[@RetroRGB]

My opinion: If you’re on a budget, get the 2X Pro and S-Video cables (the same set will work with both consoles) It’ll be great. …but if you have a bit more to spend, get the RT5x, S-Video cables for the N64 and RGB SCART for the SNES. The output is beautiful and you can leave both connected at the same time. Cables: www.retrorgb.com/snescsync.html

[@bowi1332]

Insurrection Industries makes too-quality S-Video cables for the N64. That's all I needed. (That, and the 2X-Mini.)

[@SpookySkellyGurl]

My honest opinion, I actually kind of prefer how my LG C1 handles 240p over HDMI using the 2X's passthrough compared to the line doubling. It still isn't nearest neighbor and the scanline simulation doesn't work, but it looks better to me. Same with a cheap TCL that I don't recall the model number of. I'm sure there are flat panels out there I wouldn't feel that way about and I have a Dell CRT monitor that the line doubling works great with, though.

[@RetroRGB]

If the C1 is treating 240p like progressive, then it's not adding any lag...so it's a complete win! If you have the ability to run the 240p Test Suite, I'd give that a try to double check, but if it looks good, keep doing it :)

[@SpookySkellyGurl]

@@RetroRGB well at this point it's academic since I have the 5X, but at the time I used the info button on the remote and both TVs said they were receiving 240p instead of 480i. I might try the test suite if I think about it when I'm not busy though.

[@RetroRGB]

That’s actually normal - Even PVM & BVM CRT’s say “480i” when a 15KHz signal was detected. The RT5x is such an awesome solution, direct 240p doesn’t matter anymore though :)

[@SpookySkellyGurl]

@@RetroRGB I think you misunderstood, I'm saying it accurately reported 240p instead of 480i.

[@RetroRGB]

Oh shit, really? I think my LG OLED says 480i. That's really cool, I didn't know the newer ones showed 240p. Thanks for letting me know.

[@antonioruiz8506]

I recently picked up an LG C3 and I want to hook up my ps2. What converter would be best for this setup?

[@RetroRGB]

"Best" = The RetroTINK 4K. No doubt But if you don't want to spend that much, the RetroTINK 5x can do a spectacular job as well. Links to everything are here: www.retrorgb.com/retrotink.html

[@antonioruiz8506]

⁠@@RetroRGB I’ll go for the Honda, Acura is out of my budget 😂

[@RetroRGB]

Totally fair. You won’t be disappointed. The PS2-specific features are nuts. The newest update can turn 480i, 30fps games into progressive. That alone might justify the price of the RT5x! :)

[@antonioruiz8506]

@@RetroRGB thank you for your time and suggestions. I’m definitely subscribing

[@nickwalters6649]

For Ps2 mainly, is there a need for an rgb cable with a 480i/480p switch on it similar to the retrogamingcables dreamcast cable? This is the other problem console (not as bad as Dreamcast). I know the retrotink 4k fixes this, but it seems you are out of luck if you want an all in one solution that is affordable for Ps2 only.

[@RetroRGB]

The resolution switching is done via software in-game, so there's no switch needed on the output side - Just pick up these cables and you're good to go with ANY scaler: amzn.to/47f3Pb8

[@nickwalters6649]

Thanks for the response. My issue with the ps2 is I have a 20m2mdu pvm that only do 240p/480i. So, there is a few 480p, 720p, and 1080i games that I am out of luck on if I want to keep playing on my pvm. I feel like ps2 looks crappy upscaled, rather go backwards to 240p than forwards to 1080p, 1440p, 4k with black bars on sides. So, is tink 2x pro line doubled into the gbs aio to 480p, then downscaled to 240p, my best affordable option to cover most ps2 games on my 20m2mdu pvm? Or should I just accept 480i for ps2 and climb out of this rabbit hole in this case?

[@RetroRGB]

My opinion: CRT’s are the only displays that can properly show 480i. So I embrace how PS2 looks on it and only enable 480p on PS2 games that natively support it. Another (strong) opinion: That’s an AWESOME PVM. Enjoy it :)

[@angeel0891]

Hello! I tried to play my N64 on my 55' inches smart tv i set it up in game mode and 4:3 aspect ratio, but the image is terrible i do use a hdmi converter but still really bad image, so basically this RT2X with the Svideo cable will fix that problem? Thanks in advance

[@RetroRGB]

Yes, but the better the scaler, the better it will look. I love the RT2x - It might not be the best scaler, but it’s zero lag and that smoothing option looks great for N64. The RetroTINK 5x and 4K are better, but cost a lot more. Maybe take a look at the price and features of each and see which fits your setup and budget best?

[@chaddross1920]

What other composite cable can I use with this besides the original ones?

[@RetroRGB]

All will work. But the lower quality the cable, the more interference.

[@divyenjoshi1168]

If I only own a PS2 when it comes to retro consoles and already have a GBS Control, does this have any benefits over my GBS-C or provide anything of value over it or is it not worth it?

[@RetroRGB]

GBS-C is better than RT2x for PS2. The RetroTINK 5x and 4K are better…but at much higher cost. So I’d say stay with the GBS-C.

[@TheDumontShow]

Guys, which RetroTink should i get if i want to play Saturn and PS2 and have crisp visuals

[@RetroRGB]

The RetroTINK 5x or 4K. As shown a few times in this video, the RT2x is fine for PS2, but not as good as the others: www.retrorgb.com/retrotink.html

[@Siknik64]

Do you have a recommended link for a zero-lag HDMI to VGA cable? I'm trying to use a CRT PC monitor with my 5x. Thanks.

[@RetroRGB]

This one should be good for your needs: amzn.to/44HsIu0

[@Siknik64]

@@RetroRGB Thank you for the recommendation.

[@Tarragod]

Whatever happened to the 2x mini? If you only use composite/s-video, that's a much cheaper solution, but it's been out of stock since forever

[@JCPMK]

6:45 So if my N64 is RGB modded I can connect it to the 2X-Pro only using the Retrovision cables or is there anything extra used here?

[@RetroRGB]

Nope, that's all you'd need :)

[@JCPMK]

@@RetroRGB Oh nice, I didn't know about that, thanks!

[@TVsBen]

The one downside to the 2X Pro is that some TVs have lag at 480p even in game mode. A couple different cheap LG TVs I have exhibit this with the Carby and the RT2X Pro. Not the RetroTINK's fault of course, but it is a caveat for some cheap TVs.

[@RetroRGB]

True, but it's not that common. This video shows a few examples out of the 100 or so display's I've tested (including cheap TV's) and you rarely see any difference in 480p: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHvdf5KPfb-YsLs

[@strictlynineties]

Say my 720p HDTV already has component in, would the 2X Pro give any benefits or would the device simply be only passing through the signal?

[@RetroRGB]

This video answers that in detail: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipXJd6GIYs2CgZo

[@nickwalters6649]

Is there any benefit of line doubling 240p consoles such as rgb modded nes, snes, genesis, ps1, saturn, n64 using retrotink 2x to 480p, feeding to a dac into retrotink 5x outputting to 2560 x 1440p? Does a 240p signal or 480p signal work best for upscaling with retrotink 5x? I am curious if there is a noticeable difference or advantage of one signal versus the other.

[@RetroRGB]

You’d want to go direct into the RT5x and used its advanced analog video processing. Going to the RT2x first would actually lower the quality, as it couldn’t do custom timings properly.

[@nickwalters6649]

You guys are quick, said same thing on retrotink 5x discord a little while ago. Thanks for the update. Trying to button up my console setup.

[@modulusshift]

I wish I could get one of these that outputs to component. I have a TV with a busted jungle chip, so all of its chrominance decoding has severe ghosting and instability. I just want something that'll take my composite and S-Video signals and feed them in the component slot for me. That *should* be easier than modding component output into all the consoles...but we'll see I suppose

[@RetroRGB]

This is exactly what you need: Koryuu Transcoder - 1st Look kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGTceoqag5Wagac

[@CurrentGenGamesWithNick]

I have a question how do you set up the capture card to all your consoles do you need to switch her for the capture card to go into switcher and then the console is going to Switcher?

[@RetroRGB]

www.retrorgb.com/hdmi-2-0b-1x2-splitter-audio-extractor.html

[@CurrentGenGamesWithNick]

@@RetroRGB did you try retro gem ?