RetroTink 2X Pro M Review - 480p/720p Support - Adam Koralik

[@LordRayken]

I remember asking you for like 3 years in a row what component to HDMI converter to get and you'd always say there really aren't any. Looks like there's finally one

[@zacharyrios398]

Literally the best explanation of what it does and what the demographic should go for, I was so confused on which one I needed for my 6th Gen and no one was giving straight forward answers until you came along! You are a life saver man

[@ZonicMirage]

I have component cables for my GameCube, PS2 and Wii, so this is actually relevant to my interests. Been tempted to pick one up; thanks for clearing up some confusion I've been having.

[@retroandmoderngaming493]

a dam coral lick making a review of a cable that makes consoles look better

[@justachu5521]

you say that like it's a bad thing

[@retroandmoderngaming493]

@@justachu5521 nah, i'm saying that like a good thing

[@bushidoblues9302]

Great review, exactly what I was looking for 👍 I'm loving how retro gaming has become really popular lately.

[@iliketurtles4869]

I like turtles

[@orosales7021]

Turtle turtle 🐢 Am I turtley enough for the turtle club???

[@iliketurtles4869]

@@orosales7021 sounds turtley enough for me, welcome to the club!

[@Punisher1_1995]

I own a turtle so can I join? Please

[@iliketurtles4869]

@@Punisher1_1995 all turtle lovers are welcome!

[@Punisher1_1995]

@@iliketurtles4869 sweet. Thanks!

[@genesisblock962]

6 degrees of Kevin Bacon... Glad you are back. Wishing you well through the holidays. The first holidays without a parent is the hardest.

[@DraggadonsDen]

I find it hilarious that nobody noticed the 720p problem until you had to test all its features.

[@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct]

11:32 "and even I was like…" *Homer Simpson taking a nap on the couch, occasionally scratching his butt*

[@spencercrutcher5851]

Always look forward to your new videos!

[@retropulse03]

This had me confused for awhile, so using this review I was able to figure it out, but I still had to listen closely to really get what I was trying to understand. This isn't what you need if you have 6th gen consoles. The RetroTink Pro will work great with 6th gen consoles, if my understanding is correct. The ONLY difference is that the M supports 480"p" instead of just 480i, which all 6th gen consoles do, and thus should work fine on the Pro. -- Just seemed like talk about this device is overly focused on which console, instead of which signal. Luckily this went in depth enough I was able to figure it out.

[@davidrato2947]

I am going to gift this retrotink 2x M to a friend that has all Nintendo consoles from NES to the Wii and can't connect anything to his new hdmi only TV. It might not be the best for the composite of the older consoles but it works and the Wii can connect with 480P making everything work with one upscaler witch is great !!!

[@lindblumpickles3407]

Well, how does he like it? Lol

[@davidrato2947]

@@lindblumpickles3407 I gave it to him on Christmas and he seemed very happy! I also included a simple 8 way AV switch. But with the covid thing I still haven't been able to go to his house check it out with him. And I'm not the type to force the question trough the phone to check if he is using it or not hahaha I have the retrotink 2x Pro and I like it very much!! The only thing I miss from the M is the ability to have multiple inputs connected at the same time. Specifically s-video and composite. That on the M works fine, but on the Pro reduces the brightness.

[@SlickEd91]

Another excellent video explaining the product. I was about to buy the pro but now that I saw your video I'm now getting the pro m since I mostly use it for my ps2.

[@grabbity]

Not sure where the metrics land, but was nice that this wasn't done with the premier feature. Sometimes I'm unable to start watching for a few minutes and I either rewind and miss the whole point of the chat or wait til it's over to avoid said happening. Loving all the content this year Adam. Hope you're staying safe and doing your best to heal from your family issues.

[@kusanagistyle7581]

Great review Adam as always!

[@cax1175]

6:50, So basically get the Multiformat for 6th Gen and the normal 2X for Gens 3, 4, 5.

[@ozzyozcorn]

Yes

[@acebobbomb]

It looks interesting, Mr. Koralik!

[@johndee759]

Thank you for making this video. I look forward to buying the OSSC Pro. The prototypes are out.

[@MaxaMillion711]

Needs more eyes 👀

[@MaxaMillion711]

Just watched, great video Adam. Gonna try this out with the PS2 today.

[@DraggadonsDen]

Noted.

[@jeff97ish]

Needed this video! I have the OG Retro TINK 2x and am ready to upgrade. I will get the Pro. That's all I need.

[@CCH3900]

Good to see that these issues are addressed. Something for the PS2, even though those games that use this are few. - Gotta make sure those Nuon users are looked after.

[@AdamKoralik]

#NuonMasterRace

[@castleranch738]

Excellent video! Do you need to purchase one of these for each system or can a Component Switcher be used?

[@AdamKoralik]

You can definitely use a component switch box. The problem is finding a good one, most of them degrade image quality

[@GaZlovesGames]

I can't wait to get this. Its on its way from LA as I speak!!

[@ichrismoku]

Hol' up. What about emulating stuff on the OG xbox? OG is an emulation monster, I love playing SNES etc on the OG. So in that case would I need the newer Retrotink or the older version?

[@AdamKoralik]

That probably boils down to opinion. Good question. Personally, I'd go with this as most of the emulators on the Xbox run at 720p.

[@MegaX50]

A scenario, at least for me, where having the PS3 through component would be handy is trying to use it using modern capture devices like an Elgato hd60 s... without having to buy multiple splitter/hdcp stripper boxes to figure out which ones actually work with the damn thing. A VERY SPECIFIC scenario, but knowing something would work out of the box when I wanna record/stream some PS3 game would be a nice bonus. Unless someone can actually recommend one and save me the trouble. Lol

[@oogrooq]

Just want a rad 2x cable version for the PS2. Thanks for review.

[@Malinkadink]

The PS1 cable works with the PS2.

[@SuperNicktendo]

Planning on getting the component to rub converter mainly because I don’t want to get rid of my HD Retrovision cables for my PVM

[@EmeraldLavigne]

"Rub converter?"

[@SuperNicktendo]

@@EmeraldLavigne rgb. Not sure why it said rub

[@WhiteJarrah]

I can't help but see a missed opportunity. SCART can literally support composite, S-video, RGB and YPbPr. Why not just release a Pro version of the SCART model that supports all these formats plus all the features as the Pro M? The lack of a passthrough option and lack of support for non-RGB sources is a glaring omission on the SCART model.

[@sarahrose5997]

Hey, Adam! Thanks for the awesome review! I am trying to connect my Wii to HDMI TVs. I currently have the traditional Wii AV Cables. Do you recommend I invest in Wii Component Cables and the RetroTink 2X Pro M? Or should I buy one of the cheaper Wii to HDMI devices? Thanks!! 😊

[@AdamKoralik]

I can't in good conscience recommend the Wii to HDMI devices to anyone. But honestly, it depends on your budget and how much you care about it.

[@JL-vt5uo]

This is exactly what ive been waiting for.

[@EmeraldLavigne]

Comment for engagement for the algorithm. Engagement. I have engaged with this video to appease the algorithm and boost its potential for being viewed favorably by our corporate masters. I like Adam's videos. I want more people to watch him.

[@AdamKoralik]

The algorithm gods are satisfied with your offering.

[@SYIBOI]

So I run all my Wii U and older consoles (Down to PS2 but not Gamecube as mine lacks the digital port) through component, for the simple reason of I've had very bad experiences with HDMI switchers and I got good deals on component gear from both the internet and from goodwills. This was all fine and dandy on my 2012 TV that had native component inputs and only did up to 1080p anyway, so running everything at 720p through these leads made things easy, plus I didn't have to worry about bypassing the PS3's HDCP. So alls good right? It was until that TV died on me about two months ago, I was paniced and searching every online review for new tvs that still had component inputs and found that, those ports are becoming more and more of a niche feature by the year. I did mange to find one, but the whole experience left me thinking about the future for a lot of these systems that I don't really want to risk damaging the cases to install HDMI mods when these outputs work just fine, so something like this in a way helps future proof my specific set up in a way that the RetroTink 2x Mini does for my older retro systems but for the newer ones. I should also mention my capture card does infact natively capture component video so no messy conversions needed there!

[@KatsuyaTheFuuk]

I actually use component on my 360 Elite cuz the HDMI port on it stopped working after a power outage. So for that and recording PS3, this would actually be pretty good for me

[@RastaJediX]

Adam, my mClassic is not working with my newer Samsung TV. It'd mostly an issue with 480p. The TV supports 1440p, so it is being upscaled to that, but there's all these lines tearing thru the screen and sometimes it loses signal. Is there a way I can fix this? Marseille won't respond to me.

[@AdamKoralik]

Uh, is it connected directly or through some other device like an HDMI switch?

[@TorriK0_tv]

Getting a new 4K tv on Friday, I’ll make sure to pick this up when I can to breathe some life into my small PS2 library

[@ScottCastle]

After listening to the podcast with Leafy I think I'm finally going to pull the trigger next pay check. I have 2 out of the three amigos for my PS2, and plan on getting HD Retro vision cables for my OG Xbox (I have really crappy component cables currently). I'm hoping it is worth it since I mainly just use PS2 and Xbox from that generation and my Wii for the select GameCube games I have. I don't have anything decent to help modernize my GameCube currently. Thanks for the videos Adam. You rock.

[@ScottCastle]

Well unfortunately, I haven't gotten 480p pass through to work. Kinda bummed out because I spent just over 2 months trying to understand and make sure I was making a good purchase. I've reached out to Mike to hopefully get some insight to what I am missing.

[@Klippenschubser]

A day were a Video from Adam drops is a good day. So, if I want to play the few PS2 480p games with the RetroTink I need the 2X Pro M?

[@blastechee-3546]

Great review as always Adam, the best I believe on these devices. Tells you flat out if it worth buying or not. I got one because I have the PS2 Sony component cables, Gamecube Nintendo component cables, and the XBOX Microsoft component cables. The Dreamcast I have the Beharbros Akura device. The Wii I do not own. Great content as always Adam. My best source on console gaming on KZbin. Thanks

[@MrFox-gf2vz]

Excellent video and info. Would like to see how you connected each device to the systems.

[@epicstacker413]

Got one for my wii and I love it. 480p goodness in wii, gamecube, and n64 VC games. I use the regular pro version for my pre-gamecube consoles. :)

[@muzzynat]

Hi, I know this is a comment on a months-old video, but I have a project and I'm looking for advice. I'm going to be putting together a gaming area at our family's cabin to combine all of the various consoles we have (NES, SNES, Genisis, Xbox, PS2, Gamecube, Wii, Dreamcast, Xbox 360, etc. ). My current plan is to run all the composite (NES) and Component systems into a gCompsw, with one output going to an CRT, and the other going to a scaler and into an automatic HDMI switch with the more modern consoles, displayed on an HDTV. I know that the Retrotink pro-m isn't ideal for older consoles- but given the goal of the project (Turn on a console, and play, minimal fiddling, to make it easy for nieces/nephews to play retro games), do you think it would work? OSSC is out as it can't take composite(unless the pro is released sooner than I expect), and the Frameister is crazy expensive, do you think the Pro-m is a reasonable solution?

[@AdamKoralik]

It might be, but your particular set-up has pieces I'm not super familiar with. If it's meant for convenience more than performance, it should work.

[@benrlego]

Thanks for the vid. I'd be curious to see how Gran Turismo 4 looks using one of these, that game looked great on certain LCDs but the newer ones look muddy over component IMO. Still searching for the best looking solution for GT4 on a modern LCD.

[@cax1175]

11:00, so would this work with something like an elgato, in the normal pass through mode?

[@AdamKoralik]

Depends on the supported resolutions of the El Gato.

[@cax1175]

@@AdamKoralik I have the older one that accepts composite and component as inputs, so I'm imagine this would be fine.

[@AdamKoralik]

@@cax1175 Can't say for sure, but you'd be surprised. I tend to avoid El Gato stuff. It tends to suffer from a lot of compatibility problems.

[@richardbastuck3902]

I could be wrong, but my 2x Pro (not M) seems to support my PS2 in 480p but not my Wii. I'm using component cables for both consoles and the PS2 works but not my Wii. Is that weird or am I missing something?

[@AdamKoralik]

Guaranteed your 2X Pro doesn't support 480p. Your PS2 is outputting 480i and the Pro is line doubling to 480p artificially.

[@GADG3Tx87]

Hi Adam. Thank you for your videos but I still need some help. I will be using a PAL region PS2 with HDRetrovision Component cables. To my understanding this should usually display PAL region games in 576i. I found a 2x-M for sale on eBay since it's no longer available on the RetroTink website. Should I go for that or the 2xPro? If I chose the 2xPro will ALL PS2 games work on it and simply just display interlaced instead of progressive? This is where I get confused. I 'MIGHT' use an actual PSone console with composite for PS1 games despite the PS2 being able to play those because I just like to, but would use the PS2 for them if I must. What would you suggest would be the best scenario for me? I thought about the 5xPro but not sure I can justify it for just a PS2. Thank you.

[@AdamKoralik]

I suggest the 5X, it's the latest one. I did a video about that should help a bit.

[@Retro-Fez]

Would the pro M work with an amiga cd32 in the uk

[@AdamKoralik]

Funny enough, I did a video on exactly that.

[@SilentShad0W679]

I have 6th gen consoles as well as the older ones which should i get? Is how the 2x pro looks vs the pro M with older consoles worth the trade off of not having a 480p option?

[@AdamKoralik]

It largely depends on the specific console. But even Mike doesn't recommend this model for anything before the Dreamcast.

[@Sonikks]

Hey Adam, outside of the internal HDMI mod, what would be the best way to get the best out of the N64? It needs to go into my Elgato. Cheers, love the videos.

[@blabo6427]

I use an N64 with the Tim Worthington RGB mod, RGB cable from RetreGamingCablesUK (the best RGB cables), a Framemeister and finally a Mclassic HDMI and the result is similar to that of an N64 with the HDMI mod so the best option for N64 according to my humble opinion is ... ... A CRT TV. With other consoles the framemeister is the best but in the case of the N64 not even the HDMI mod can match an old CRT.

[@AdamKoralik]

Depends on if you're only willing to use a stock unit or not to be honest.

[@FlyingV555]

The thumbnails are getting progressively creepier. All we need now is Adam to be staring right into your eyes zoomed in on his face.

[@Shinynyancat213]

Does the retrotink 2x pro multiformat have smooth filtering like 2x pro?

[@AdamKoralik]

Yes, though only certain resolutions support it.

[@Shinynyancat213]

@@AdamKoralik for ps1 240p and ps2 480i?

[@ThomasCassonActor]

Have you reviewed the Kaico Adam? I have swiss on my Cube now and looking into that vs.. the mclassic, Eon etc.

[@AdamKoralik]

Kaico sent me a bunch of those things. Long story short, they're basically just the European version of the Pound stuff.

[@ThomasCassonActor]

@@AdamKoralik what's the pound stuff?

[@AdamKoralik]

@@ThomasCassonActor I've done videos on a bunch of them. They're basically cheap HDMI cables for specific consoles. I can't recommend them, same goes for Kaico.

[@SlaterNoSkater1295]

I have a Wii with component and PS2 with composite. All my Wii games are 480p but the one PS2 game I play is 480i only. Does the multiformat support that one 480i game?

[@AdamKoralik]

Short answer, yes.

[@SlaterNoSkater1295]

​@@AdamKoralik Perfect, thank you for the response!

[@Iashuddra]

How is the 2x Pro M with N64? I'm new to "modern retro gaming" and have a 2x pro M on the way. I was told it is better for 3D graphics. Will it be much different for games like Mario 64 and Banjo Kazooie compared to the standard 2x pro?

[@AdamKoralik]

As I said, it's not ideal for anything prior to the Dreamcast, which would include the N64. The N64 is a nightmare to modernize, unfortunately you can't make it look good, just....less bad. See my N64 HDMI mod video for a breakdown about it.

[@Iashuddra]

@@AdamKoralik thank you for such a quick reply. It’s a shame it’s not ideal, I guess Reddit isn’t the best source of info! At least the PS2 will look better. So long as it’s functions that should work for the time being and maybe I’ll switch to the pro when I have the cash. Thanks again!

[@AdamKoralik]

@@Iashuddra Ha, PS2. You literally picked the two hardest consoles to get decent video out of. Wait a bit before pulling the trigger. I got something new I'll be doing a video on that should be helpful, hopefully.

[@Iashuddra]

@@AdamKoralik just my luck, damn nostalgia! I’ll keep an eye out, hopefully it’ll help me in my search!

[@dangr3957]

Nice video! Personally I use component cable with an 4K LG LED tv with extremely good results. My 2015 UF850 even has a scart input!

[@dangr3957]

Actually I use the scart input for my Ps1 and I am mind blown by the visual quality especially the 2D to 3D mode on with full sharpness on and this equals to the component port with ps2 and Xbox. I am strongly recommend to anyone to check this TV out.

[@psycomutt]

I run a 60gb PS3 for all my PS2 needs. A comparison between the two would be awesome. I would love to switch to the PS2 and put that PS3 up before it kicks the bucket, lol.

[@RatedMJ]

Hey, can the Retrotink 2xM work with Elgato? I have both an Elgato HD and HD60S+ and I just can't get the Gamecube capture to display on my laptop. it will freeze, say it can't display a 1440p resolution, or it says the capture is being used by another device. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

[@AdamKoralik]

I haven't used the Elgato HD60, I've heard that have a lot of compatibility problems, which sounds like what you're describing unfortunately. :/

[@RatedMJ]

@@AdamKoralik Okay, is there any type of capture device/software that you can recommend with the Retrotink?

[@AdamKoralik]

@@RatedMJ Personally I use the Flint 4KP Plus by ClonerAlliance.

[@RatedMJ]

@@AdamKoralik Okay, thanks Adam! Yeah I thought with the GameCube component cables could do progressive scan, but the it's the same issue with PS2. I'll look into the Flint 4K. Appreciate the help!

[@AdamKoralik]

@@RatedMJ GameCube will support 480p in a lot of cases. Though I don't know if the Elgato HD60 supports 480p.

[@mydude2473]

My mClassic does not work with the 2xproM...i get a bunch of lines at the bottom of the screen😤

[@AdamKoralik]

That's probably a timing issue from your TV. It's probably trying to support 1440p but can't.

[@charvelgtrs]

Why would you buy an Retrotink 2x Pro over an OSSC for component/RGB use, especially considering the prices are pretty similar? OSSC can take those signals up to 1080p vs 480p.

[@AdamKoralik]

Personal preference mostly. I'm not a huge fan of the OSSC due to its poor compatibility with complimentary devices like the mClassic or capture devices.

[@cyo_corner]

I use the normal retrotink2x with my FM towns marty since it caps out at s-video. I think the pro is good for people that don't have a retrotink2x already and want this plug and play solution. It's also helpful for guys that don't have s-video on their new TVs. Just my experience.

[@Kashes_]

do you know of anywhere we can get one from?

[@AdamKoralik]

I think Mike stopped producing these in favor of the 5X.

[@ozzyozcorn]

Do I plug the mclassic into the retrotink if I'm using a ps2?

[@AdamKoralik]

Yes.

[@ozzyozcorn]

@@AdamKoralik gracias brother

[@ozzyozcorn]

@@AdamKoralik can you help me figure out why the lines are still so bad ? I thought this was supposed to make my games looks good.... I posted a video on my channel

[@AdamKoralik]

@@ozzyozcorn So I watched your video, as far as I can tell, that looks normal for the PS2.

[@ozzyozcorn]

@@AdamKoralik I mean i know it's not the best graphically but I've seen other people doing comparisons and it looks better... idk maybe I'm just being picky here

[@GaZlovesGames]

Have you tested 240p on the M against the og Pro? I ordered this M to solve all my issues. Thinking ill need the original pro now also for 240p consoles. Wish these were quicker to travel overseas.. i want to test this now! Haha. Want to see how well this handles 240 against the base pro unit. Great vid btw. Enjoyed this mate.

[@AdamKoralik]

Nah, Mike himself said it wasn't ideal.

[@foreversleepy4379]

Is this still any good for PAL consoles that don't output 480p or for the PAL PS2 that barely has any games that output in progressive mode? Would this be a better choice than the OSSC for the PS2 and Xbox original? I'm guessing it will handle interlaced signals much better but I don't know. I don't really want to mod my consoles, at least, not right away, maybe down the line.

[@AdamKoralik]

I suggest checking out the RetroTink 5X.

[@foreversleepy4379]

@@AdamKoralik Thanks for the reply. Yeah, that looks good but it's also twice the price. Probably worth it, though, since it has an RGB scart input and superior deinterlacer. Saves me having to buy another adapter just for Gamecube stuff too.

[@theshadowman1398]

So this thing should be perfect for unmodded PAL xbox ?

[@AdamKoralik]

Yes, I suppose so.

[@astonmikedelgado]

I could benefit from these products but it gone take me a bit to splurge on this and the m classic. Love the channel, Keep up the great work Adam

[@RonkeyRong]

Hey Adam, I have an extron BNC switcher and want to connect my consoles to the inputs and use two of the outputs, one to a PVM and one to the retrotink 2X Pro M(using BNC to RCA obviously). Would the retrotink be able to accept a signal coming through like that.

[@AdamKoralik]

Honestly, not sure. :/

[@RonkeyRong]

@@AdamKoralik I went ahead and bought the tink pro M anyways, so when it arrives I'll test it out and let you know.

[@rayferrer1709]

For my fat ps2 I will be playing ps2 games and ps1 games. Do I get the 2x pro or the multi format?

[@AdamKoralik]

I suggest the 5X.

[@rayferrer1709]

@@AdamKoralik Thanks!

[@paulhannonthedj]

Does it support consoles prior to the Dreamcast etc consoles.

[@AdamKoralik]

As I said, yes, though it's just a bonus feature. Even Mike, creator of it, recommends a different version of the RetroTink for that.

[@Blink182PunkRocker]

RF is still the greatest way to hook up a console in 2020 🤙🏻

[@AdamKoralik]

#DevilsPitchForksMasterRace

[@velocityrapture7047]

Is it possible to hook up the mclassic with this? I saw a video of someone hooking up the mclassic to the retrotink 2x pro for their sega genesis and it looked pretty good. But when I hooked up the mclassic to the retrotink 2x pro M for my ps2 slim the image became incredibly messed up.

[@AdamKoralik]

Yes, it will work.

[@velocityrapture7047]

@@AdamKoralik do you know have any idea why it messed up the image though?

[@AdamKoralik]

That could be a lot of different reasons, depends on how you have it connected, and what settings you have the PS2 at.

[@velocityrapture7047]

@@AdamKoralik Well I'm using the PS2 HD Retrovision cables connected to the retrotink 2x pro M, I'll check the settings on my ps2 first

[@AdamKoralik]

@@velocityrapture7047 Check to see if the PS2 is outputting via RGB or YpBpBr.

[@TDMicrodork]

Nuon Master race never heard that one Also do they make something like this for rf input or is the second generation just forever needed to be modified.

[@AdamKoralik]

Eh, RF is just so rarely needed. They do make RF to composite modulators. You could adapt that to this if you wanted to

[@tompaquette7138]

On the mclassic have you been using the green or blue mode? I don't have the tink m yet its on the way but with the pro I've kept it on green due to my HDMI splitter also including the Nintendo switch with the tink so then I don't have to change settings. I should try blue on my 6th Gen consoles to see the difference, but I'm curious what you did.

[@AdamKoralik]

I do both, it's console specific. Blue for 4:3 consoles like most 6th gen stuff (and before). Green for 7th and beyond.

[@tompaquette7138]

@@AdamKoralik with 6th Gen's set to output 16:9 widescreen and the retrotink before the mclassic it would still be blue? I have both consoles (ps2 & og Xbox) with open source dashs and digital games.

[@AdamKoralik]

@@tompaquette7138 That's personal preference. In almost all cases, yes. As very few games will actually look correct in widescreen. More OG Xbox games will over PS2 games. Generally if the content is natively in widescreen, the mClassic adjusts accordingly.

[@tompaquette7138]

@@AdamKoralik ok thanks a lot I'll try both and see what I prefer.

[@tompaquette7138]

Recommend this video and all products discussed here, though I have yet to try retrotink 2xm

[@TheAccountant1000]

Question my screen keeps flickering and I don’t know how to make it stop when I insert the RetroTink 2X pro on the PS2 with the MClassic not sure why the screen flickers a lot :(

[@AdamKoralik]

Are you using any soft of HDMI switch box?

[@TheAccountant1000]

@@AdamKoralik yes i am for my other consoles too they are all hooked into a HDMI switch box

[@AdamKoralik]

@@TheAccountant1000 That's why. The signal is getting weakened. Try connecting directly, just for experiment's sake.

[@grayluna3710]

If I play ps1 games on ps2 through component will it work?

[@AdamKoralik]

With this device, yes, because it will adjust the resolution for you.

[@ericcopeland5947]

Hey Adam! Kind of off topic from the video but the guy that makes the wireless dreamcast controllers made a new power supply so you can turn it on/off wirelessly. Will you be checking it out?

[@AdamKoralik]

For the Dreamcast? Maybe.

[@ericcopeland5947]

@@AdamKoralik yes for the dreamcast! He calls it the dream port.

[@nothere6991]

So... which is better, retrotink 2x multiformat or ossc???

[@AdamKoralik]

Depends on your goals.

[@nothere6991]

@@AdamKoralik I just need it for the PS2... Im torn between getting the Multi-format or OOSC or wait for OSSC Pro...... What would you pick? and would you add a Mclassic to it also?????????????

[@AdamKoralik]

Can't say about the Pro since it doesn't exist yet. :/ And yes, I'd always add the mClassic.

[@SanchezS1998]

I tested an mClassic in “RETRO Mode” with a BC PS3 with “PS/PS2 Scaling” set to “Off” and “Smoothing” set to “On”, and the mClassic does such a better job than the PS3’s internal scaler. It shouldn’t be surprising given that the internal scaler is at least a decade older, and I’ve yet to test it in games with a “Widescreen” setting, but it really breathes new life into these older titles. May try this out with my original Xbox if the quality plug-and-play HDMI solutions still have supply issues by the time I’m ready to buy.

[@SanchezS1998]

@@MichaelM28 to each their own.

[@grabbity]

@@MichaelM28 I remember when I had my first beer.

[@thegamewin100]

@@grabbity lol

[@Gmen2010champs]

Hey Adam, when you say not recomended for older consoles like the Genesis/Mega Drive, SNES etc, do you mean its like overkill for them or will it like not work properly? I ask because Ive been looking for a good component to HDMI solution for awhile for the Xbox Original because my tv doesnt have component input and if I could use this as an all in one converter for the Xbox as well as the rest of the retro consoles, this would be perfect for my setup. Thanks man!

[@AdamKoralik]

I mean the way their images look aren't enhanced by the RetroTink M, they're better suited to the Pro.

[@Gmen2010champs]

@@AdamKoralik Oh alright thanks man!

[@kenmorrow86]

I have a PS2 slim, Dreamcast and will eventually get an Xbox og. I also use the RetroTink2x Pro already for my 5th gen and below consoles. I have hd Retrovision cables for all of them except the Dreamcast, should I get the RetroTink2x Pro M or should I wait for new solution or the OSSC Pro? I'm very happy with the 5th gen and below consoles but want a better picture for my PS2 and dreamcast. I'll probably invest in HDMI mods down the road but for now I'm very content with analog. What do you guys think?

[@MarkoPolo8888]

Hello Adam, Okay so just want to get this straight. If I purchased a Scart RGB cable for my original XBOX, would it work on my Framemeister? I planned on purchasing a Scart RGB cable for my original XBOX today but I wanted to ask you this question before I did. Thx in advance!

[@AdamKoralik]

Is your OG XBox a PAL one?

[@MarkoPolo8888]

@@AdamKoralik I don’t believe so. I purchased in U.S. new back in 2001. Is there a way I can find out if it’s a PAL Xbox?

[@AdamKoralik]

@@MarkoPolo8888 Why in the world would you want SCART then?

[@MarkoPolo8888]

@@AdamKoralik well I have 9 systems running on SCART right now and they look great. Was just wondering if I got a SCART cable for my original XBOX It would look the same. Primary I like all my systems running from my Framemeister but I know the XBOX is a little tricky system. I’m aware of the of the MCable, MClassic & the Chimeric HDMI adaptor. Just wanted to know if I can also run my Xbox with Scart RGB cable. Just looking for the absolute best way to hook up my Xbox. So if the SCART cable doesn’t work with my XBOX, I take it the best way to hook up is the Chimeric adapter and the MClassic?

[@AdamKoralik]

@@MarkoPolo8888 Oh man, that's....really not a good approach. The Xbox in particular best with the Chimeric adapter. If you're using SCART with it, you're needlessly cutting yourself off at the knees.

[@nicomassarella8919]

Sorry in cases I missed it. What’s the best on for N64 ?

[@AdamKoralik]

Unfortunately that's a complicated one. Check out my N64 HDMI Mod video for a break down about that.

[@nicomassarella8919]

@@AdamKoralik thanks for the reply. I should have noted I will playing N64 as well and ps2.

[@AdamKoralik]

@@nicomassarella8919 The two most annoyingly complicated, good luck!

[@maxlepord]

If I only care for the n64 should I get the mini version ?

[@AdamKoralik]

Mini version?

[@rdaws73]

Yes

[@velocityrapture7047]

So you recommend updating the firmware? Or does it depend on what console you're using it for?

[@AdamKoralik]

Always update the firmware.

[@p00pdragon]

Was this product discontinued ?

[@AdamKoralik]

Probably, Mike focuses on the 5X now.

[@ToyvilleMoviesCo]

Would this work on PS1 games run on a PS2 with a component cable? Natively those have issues on certain TVs.

[@AdamKoralik]

Hm, that's a really good question. I wish I had thought to test that....I think it would. When I'm home I should test that. Can you bug me about this on Friday?

[@ToyvilleMoviesCo]

@@AdamKoralik Hey Adam I'm bugging you

[@AdamKoralik]

@@ToyvilleMoviesCo Thank you, I totally forgot. I just tested it. Yes, it totally works. :D

[@CalebUncut]

I had exactly the same question, thanks for answering adam :) Want to buy one of these for my ps2 but I also tend to play a lot of ps1 games on it. How does it look? Also do you think this will look good with gamecube games being play on the wii? I also play a lot of gamecube games on my wii xD

[@AdamKoralik]

@@CalebUncut PS1 stuff looks good with this, but that includes an mClassic. I can't in good conscience recommend a Wii for GameCube playback, so I can't say.

[@nitr0ry]

Hey adam great video! I'm looking to buy either the retrotink pro 2x, the scart one or the one here you reviewed with the pro m, I mostly want to know what one would be the best to buy if my main consoles I'd want to use these with are the saturn, N64, dreamcast, PS2, OG Xbox & Wii! Oh & what would suit best for streaming these as well thanks!

[@AdamKoralik]

Well, if I'm honest, based on that list you'd need both. If you can only get one, then it depends on which consoles are more important to you.

[@nitr0ry]

@@AdamKoralik Probably the later ones as I'd play them more than the older stuff! I was hoping for the all in one fix but if that's not possible I'll just pick up the other one at some point in the future! Thanks for the advice man!

[@AdamKoralik]

@@nitr0ry I mean, the N64 and Saturn will work, this just wouldn't be the optimal choice for them.

[@sabrearashi302]

Adam, do you know if the 2X-M will work with the PSP component cables? That's a big reason I'm interested in this. You should try it out if you can. Thanks.

[@AdamKoralik]

I assume so, the PSP video output is something weird right? Like 540p or something?

[@sabrearashi302]

@@AdamKoralik I don't believe so, just 480i and 480p via the PSP component cable. I'm interested in pairing the 2x-M up with the mClassic to give PSP games a nice visual boost. Or maybe not, who knows.

[@AdamKoralik]

Apparently it is odd: junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php?title=Playstation_Portable#:~:text=When%20using%20the%20PSP%20with,480)%20resolution%20used%20for%20output.

[@ians_parks]

@@sabrearashi302 I'm unaware how the Pro M handles the PSP in 480p but the original Pro model works just fine with the PSP when its set to 480i. I'd assume it would work no issue just now in progressive instead interlaced.

[@JG-lt3ew]

How noticable is the flicker for 480i (PS2)?

[@AdamKoralik]

On a TV, it's present. In the recording, way worse.

[@JG-lt3ew]

@@AdamKoralik Thanks for your reply. What would be the go-to upscaler in terms of as less flicker as possible. Framemeister?

[@AdamKoralik]

@@JG-lt3ew With the PS2? HD Retrovision component cables ---> RetroTink 2X M smoothing enabled ---> mClassic ---> TV. But again, it's the PS2. It can't look good, just less bad.

[@rickvince]

So this is just for 480p instead of 480i? Is it that much of a difference?

[@AdamKoralik]

As I said it does work with 480i content, it's just compatible with 480p content as well. And yes, the difference is substantial.

[@rickvince]

@@AdamKoralik Any chance that in the near future there's going to be a Retrotink that combines the best of the Pro and the M? I'd love to avoid getting both of them.

[@AdamKoralik]

@@rickvince You'd have to ask Mike to be honest.

[@rickvince]

@@AdamKoralik Of course of course but let me rephrase that. Would it be even possible? I'm assuming that if it was then it would be more expensive..

[@seanpaul3954]

Just wanted to add that in my experience the retrotink pro and scart do not achieve the same results on PS2, with component on the pro being far superior. Thanks for the great video,btw

[@ChipMunkGuerrilla]

My tube tv only takes component. Can I plug a rbg cable into the genesis to the retrotink and then connect to my tube tv via composite?

[@AdamKoralik]

I'm confused by what you're suggesting. Your TV has component inputs or composite inputs?

[@ChipMunkGuerrilla]

@@AdamKoralik only composite and I was wondering if somehow I could tap into the rgb signal of my genesis and output it via my trinitron.

[@AdamKoralik]

No, composite is the problem. You need a better TV to be frank about it.

[@grabbity]

I'd recommend, if at all possible to find a crt that can take component or at the very least s-video while they're still affordable.

[@ChipMunkGuerrilla]

@@grabbity I have one of the best trinitrons out there. Its a mitsubishi but unfortunately there is only composite inputs and a composite output so I guess I’m out of luck.

[@J64866]

Hi Adam, would this work on the OLED LG CX tvs?

[@AdamKoralik]

Why wouldn't it?

[@richardfosterII7575]

So in your opinion do you think ps2 will look better on here or retro tink pro 2x? I would only get it for that. But don't think it is worth it I have the pro. Anyway great video quality like always. Hoping for a better year in 2021 and happy Thanksgiving

[@AdamKoralik]

Personally, I'd suggest this.

[@richardfosterII7575]

Ok thanks for the suggestion. I value your opinion. I had to make a decision between this and the pro when my orginal retro tink 2x stopped working. But one day I will get it for those systems you mentioned. But I use the scart 2x model the most too.

[@AdamKoralik]

@@richardfosterII7575 One little bonus I just noticed is the RetroTink allows PS1 games to work on the PS2 via component. Can't believe I never thought to test this before.

[@MVGkaiser]

I want to get this for my PS2. Though would this work well with the 2D library of the PS2?

[@AdamKoralik]

That might be game specific to be honest

[@MVGkaiser]

@@AdamKoralik Duly Noted, thanks! I tend to play a lot of 2D JRPGs, just got into the whole Retro Gaming rabbit hole hehe Trying to play some old favorites I grew up with.

[@poncho828]

I recently purchased a new ossc from someone local for $50. Is the new retrotink better than the ossc?

[@AdamKoralik]

Kind of personal preference, I'm not really a big OSSC fan.

[@V8RacerGT]

Hi Adam, what do you think about OSSC vs RetroTink 2X Pro M for the OG XBOX regarding picture quality. Are they the same? Thanks.

[@AdamKoralik]

I'm not really a fan of the OSSC to be honest.

[@V8RacerGT]

@@AdamKoralik May I ask you why? I always thought the OSSC is one of the best scalers.

[@AdamKoralik]

@@V8RacerGT Often suffers from compatibly issues with complimentary devices like capture devices or things like the mClassic. I thought it handled RGB signals very well, but the other features were mediocre. I did a review on this years ago.

[@V8RacerGT]

@@AdamKoralik Thank you. I will watch your review.

[@V8RacerGT]

@@AdamKoralik Hi Adam, would you considering re-reviewing the OSSC (maybe the HDMI version with I think a better sound solution), because it may improved in many ways over the years due to added features/bug fixes via firmware updates. It would be really interesting I think. Thank you very much.

[@Confruggy]

I ordered mine specifically for the Wii. You mentioned that you can use the Wii U for Wii games but there's actually an issue with the Wii mode on Wii U where the Wii U looks *worse* than the Wii with component cables due to how the Wii U upscales Wii games to 1080p, causing some colors to bleed. While you can actually set your Wii U to 480p which will fix the color bleeding, this will for some reason zoom the image in a bit in Wii mode, causing the image to look a bit softer. Also the Wii U only outputs limited RGB through HDMI, so you won't get the full color range with Wii games.

[@AdamKoralik]

I recommend setting it to 480p and adding the mClassic, it's pretty amazing.

[@joem6142]

Does it work for PS1 games to play on the PS2?

[@AdamKoralik]

Yes.

[@joem6142]

Awesome! I’ve been researching a lot since component cables suck! I may have to buy both Retrotinks - one for PS2 and then one for my sega and SNES. Now I need a solution for my Atari! Thank you!

[@AdamKoralik]

@@joem6142 It's a complicated issue, but basically this is how it works. PS2 component cables DO work with PS1 games. But they output in 240p or 360p a lot of the time. The problem is, most component input devices (TV monitor) don't support that. But, the RetroTink line does.

[@lENIIGMAii]

So this and gold plated Sony composite cables and the mclassic would be good

[@AdamKoralik]

Composite? Absolutely not.

[@lENIIGMAii]

@@AdamKoralik what then what’s the exact best set up haha

[@lENIIGMAii]

@@AdamKoralik sorry component I mean to say

[@AdamKoralik]

@@lENIIGMAii PS2 HD Retrovision component cables --> RetroTink 2X M with smoothing enabled ---> mClassic. Be warned though, the PS2 can't look good, it can only look less bad.

[@lENIIGMAii]

@@AdamKoralik ok thank you is that your preferred way to play ps2 games? Or do u use the PS3 launch model and m cable is that the best way maybe?

[@FoxbatStargazer]

Note that all you need for turning 480p/720p component into HDMI is a component to HDMI converter which are very cheap (

[@AdamKoralik]

To be fair, most component to HDMI converters aren't very good.