RetroTink 2X Pro Review - RGB to HDMI - Adam Koralik

[@jamespaxton6395]

This summerizes the 12 hours of research I've done in just 27 minutes and explains it better than anyone else I've seen. Hands down. Outstanding. Thank you sir.

[@AdamKoralik]

Happy to help.

[@CMC6996]

Its always a good day when we get a new upload from adam. One of the few ogs who hasn't went down the switch news rabbit hole lol

[@Ji99i3]

Agreed

[@MrPotteeMouf]

Cant understand why anyone watches beatemups, rgt or spawnwave. Thats all they do

[@robd9921]

He also hasn't hopped on the PS5/Series X rumor mill that contradicts itself every day.

[@terrencecoccoli524]

@@MrPotteeMouf rgt85 and beatemups are lowrent talentless hacks. spawnwave has some technical skills, but his news stuff is just him being lazy.

[@robd9921]

@@terrencecoccoli524 I still laugh at the amount of negative comments RGT got on his video where he was complaining about the fact that KZbin demonitized him over his Mortal Kombat 11 video!

[@rein5728]

Would love for you to do a comparison between the RetroTink 2X Pro and RetroTINK-2X Pro Multi-format for mainly PS2 use.

[@richardfosterII7575]

Yeah I would love to see that too.

[@cax1175]

You've been borderline giddy when discussing the nuon the last couple of videos. It pushes the sixth generation over the edge as your favorite generation now, no need to hide it Adam.

[@retrosoul8770]

Hell yeah, best gen imo (at least for 3d gaming)

[@MrMario2011]

you put ROTTEN EGGS

[@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct]

9:39 in my very very long time gaming on CRT's, I don't ever remember seeing scanlines on my TV, so the nostalgia is lost on me 🤷‍♂️

[@DarDarBinks1986]

I never thought of the scanlines as being there. But when I plugged my old consoles into a flat-panel TV using composite, the flaws in the technology became obvious. I've switched to component and haven't looked back since.

[@johnhealy3671]

It’s an American thing, here in the UK our PAL tv’s had higher resolution so no scan lines, I had the best set up, US 60hz SNES and Japanese 60hz Megadrive with RGB Scart cables on my 14” Sony Trinitron CRT, still have the consoles but not the TV, picture didn’t get better than that, full speed 60hz consoles, no borders!

[@c0rpse1]

you most likely used 480i on a smaller set or even semi large. You cant even really see scanlines that well on a 13 inch 240p. people who like scanlines mostly used s-video on a larger tv like 20-32 inch with a 240p source. CRT is literally a superior technology. no motion blur, no input lag, and every resolution is effectively native.

[@mistersurrealist]

That's because you haven't played your games on a 30 inch+ CRT. Trust me, you will see scanlines on a big CRT, especially if you're relatively close to the screen.

[@cax1175]

Watched on the patreon but re-watching. Yeah, if this is essentially just rbg scart in component form, it would be the most cost effective to get the retrovisiob component cables for my consoles. Whenever you get the RBG 3DO mod, definitely make a video on it. I'm looking at buying a Japanese Panasonic FZ-1, as it has a 240p mode switch, no mod required.

[@studiokadaver]

I have the Retrotink 2x Pro. Love it. I sadly have too many things on composite. I’m trying to upgrade as much as possible to RGB component. I’m still working on cables for as many systems as possible.

[@ianeons9278]

20:45 You where being so sarcastic I literally thought you where talking about the PS2 lol. Can't wait for the Nuon episode because I know barely anything about it and you always do the best console retrospectives as always.

[@cax1175]

2:40, worst way? Challenge accepted, rf to composite adapter to hdmi adapter.

[@chrispuhara8934]

I don't know why but I think that the time code being "2:40" is a funny coincidence

[@ianeons9278]

18:30 Scientists use Shenmue II to confirm multiverse theory.

[@TheHistorianKing]

Oh wow I was just wondering when are you going to review the Retrotink 2X Pro, then you uploaded it today. Coincidence. Anyway yes great video with details. I mostly want to get this for the PS2. Though what I need to make the PS2 video quality great is that I need the HD Retrovision (PS2/PS3) component cables (switch from RGB to the other on the system configuration), hook it to Retrotink 2X Pro, turn on smoothing, plug in an MClassic to the Retrotink 2X Pro HDMI, then connect an HDMI cable from the MClassic to the HDTV. Got it. Thanks again for this. Looking into the Retrotink 2X Pro Multi Format...seems like the best to go because of the 480i/480p content. Great video.

[@DrClaw77]

I have found the transcoding feature very useful in my setup. I have both the 2X and the OSSC. For S-Video sources I have paired this with a no-lag HDMI to Component converter (Mike Chi has used this in a demo video) to get those sources into the OSSC. Now I use the transcoding feature to tame the 240p coming out of the SNES HD Retrovision cables, which cause a blinking image on my TV directly. Using the same HDMI to Component converter, no more blinking. Seems roundabout but it's working great.

[@John-po1es]

Love the Nuon clip lol. Really interesting PS2 set, for me the line doubling introduces a flicker which I guess is a capture shutter issue maybe? Great video as always Adam!

[@AdamKoralik]

Yes, it's more accentuated in the capture process.

[@unkono]

Bought this device during the pandemic. Best purchase ever.

[@HedgehogY2K]

I bought the DCHDMI service and he's getting my mods done right now, actually he might be sending it back already. I can't wait to test it all out.

[@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct]

16:30 I was hungry for breakfast until you mentioned the composite cables 🤣

[@WhiteJarrah]

1:16 I haven't used the Super 64 or RAD2X cables myself, but without even using them I see a serious design flaw. Despite using the same technology of the RetroTINK, there's no passthrough option. If you're playing a 480i or 576i game, that forces you to play with that terrible bob-interlacing that sacrifices half the resolution.

[@chchris25]

Adam, the PS2 looks best with HD Retrovision cables + DVDO iScan + mCable. The iScan is the fastest and best de-interlaser I have ever seen. It also lets you upscale, overscan, and add additional image enhancements. When all 3 are combined, 480i content looks like native 480P content. Similar or better than the PS3 60gb can handle PS2.

[@CCH3900]

Great little device, but the fact that we need to supply Component cables may be a problem if those cables become scarce. Hopefully these cables stay in production long enough for the people that want this for years to come. Also, nice Nuon troll.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

Dang it, I saw "2X" and thought this was a video about Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2X, which is the OG Xbox version of PS2... THPS2. Yeah. :P

[@robd9921]

Adam I feel like it's so difficult for you to REALLY show us these gameplay comparisons. It seems like it's always either the capture process doesn't do what you want it to do, so you have further explain why the capture looks the way it does, or KZbin compression is affecting the footage.

[@AdamKoralik]

Welcome to the fun of KZbin.

[@Ballowax]

@@AdamKoralik that's youtube compression, degrades shit out of the original master video

[@darionovello6886]

one of these popped up locally for $50 I'm glad I watched this video thanks I was planning on playing GameCube Wii Xbox and PS2 with component Cheers :D

[@millymoody566]

i might pick up since i love retro gaming

[@petropolis87]

Always informative. Keep up the good work.

[@retrosoul8770]

19:16 I love the Ps2 man, I really do, as of now Ace Combat 5 is my damn thumb picture. But that's the worst thing about the system, it's biggest flaw. It's the reason why I keep a Sony Trinitron, a JVC I Art, my Toshiba etc, for their glorious 480i. Not just for Ps2 obviously but it's nice being to able to preserve the crts for the 240p systems, instead of the 6th gen 480p ones.

[@WhiteJarrah]

23:07 *Facepalm* With due respect Adam, anybody who recommends linedoublers for interlaced content should have their hands chopped off. The reason the RetroTINK looks so good on things like the Supper Nintendo and Sega Mega Drive is because you are primarily sending progressive signals to it. With 240p and 288p, the device has all the horizontal lines of each frame to work with right from the word go. But with the PS2, the output is primarily 480i or 576i. Interlaced means the odd and even lines that make up each frame are displayed separately. So 30 frames per second is actually 60 half frames per second, half as in half the lines that make up the image. That means at any even time, the OSSC only has half the picture to work with, linedoubling that means half the vertical resolution is sacrificed to make a pseudo-progressive frame. And because each field shows different parts of the one image, the resulting picture seems to continuously bob up and down to the point it becomes a distraction. Some people appropriate call this mess "bob-deinterlacing". If you must upscale PS2 content, you should deinterlace it properly. You can clearly see that the component passthrough looks substantially better because the TV or capture card is deinterlacing it properly so that there is no vertical jittering. Hell, even your old SCART to HDMI with the PS2 connected via RGB SCART looks better than the sample you show at 23:08, aside from being stretched to 16/9. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2qYfWeBaNOIf7s

[@acebobbomb]

Mr. Koralik is back with a VENGEANCE!!!!

[@califaern3sto]

I might get the 2x pro to hook up my ps1 with sony brand ps3 s video cables, I wonder how that will look

[@chchris25]

I do use it for my Wii for 240P content only. However I do use a component splitter, one goes to the Retrotink Pro, and the other straight to my TV for 480P content.

[@theshadowman1398]

Really want to get that S-video version. But not really financially possible now

[@flagshipbuilds]

I TINK Adam's made some good points in this video.

[@AdamKoralik]

Heyooooooo.

[@PsychoVision19]

The US did get an RGB format it was called VGA (RGBHV). Component is not RGB, it's a completely different color space.

[@AdamKoralik]

I believe that was my reference to broadcasting.

[@WhiteJarrah]

4:59 I beg to differ. The RetroTINK generally is a great device. But would you believe that my SONY HDTV would not accept any PS1 resolutions coming off the RetroTINK. In fact, it didn't even accept 576i from the PS2 in passthrough mode. Which is really weird, given that it supported a passthrough signal coming off the PS2 to HDMI adapter. And my Elgato HD didn't support anything coming off the RetroTINK, that's despite accepting the OSSC's 2x mode. As was the case with the OSSC, the only use I got out of the RetroTINK was feeding it into the HDMI input on your old SCART to HDMI box so that my display and capture card could accept the output. I've tried the mClassic, but the picture looks way too blurred on 2D games.

[@WhiteJarrah]

14:38 Ironically the SCART version of the RetroTINK seems rather stripped down and inferior. It only supports RGB, which seems like a missed opportunity given that SCART can also carry composite, S-video and YPbPr. There's also no passthrough option. If it had those functions, it would have been hands down the ultimate RetroTINK.

[@atomiswave1971]

The reason its important to have scanline capability is because on 2D sprite games the sprites were not meant to be seen with twice the line resolution. By doing that your effectively filling in gaps with color and it loses the look of the original sprite. On 3D games its probably not worth it. I have to say the scan lines look pretty dire on this box, they are more like blinds. Scanlines are not supposed to be the same level of depth as the field which is turned on. On all my devices the scanlines are beautiful and colorful and the brightness drops about 3-5%, not 40% like in your demo. Since I have 3 arcade cabinets in my garage I know what 240p should look like. Just watch any youtube video about scanlines and you will see that games actually look beautiful with scanlines. Its the way they were intended to be played and true RGB signals accentuate the look very well. Thanks for showing the scanlines, I don't blame you for not liking them.

[@tybread2997]

PS2 with the retrotink pro looks the same to me on running PS2 games on the PS3. Does a great job with s video for other consoles as well.

[@JolliAllGenGamer]

If I didn't have HDMI solutions for the Pound, Hyperkin, and Levelhike cables I got for a lot of the Sega and Nintendo consoles I would consider this.

[@AdamKoralik]

You should still consider this.

[@scottythompson940]

Cool video tech talk Adam

[@gamingsincethe80s60]

Why is the environment vibrating? Looks best in Component, imo. The line doubling makes the image look brighter, but the environment shakes.

[@AdamKoralik]

Deinterlacing, the capture process has an issue with it. Doesn't appear that way on a TV, at least not nearly as obviously.

[@gamingsincethe80s60]

@@AdamKoralik Brilliant device. Thank you for the education.

[@TheArtOfTechSupport]

Pal gamecube and OG xboxs are locked to 576I without mods so the retro tink would be a good choose for those

[@DARTH-REFLUX]

Nice video Adam! I'm so fed up with trying the $30 price point PS2 to HDMI converters. I've tried Levelhike, Hyperkin, and the Amazon's choice one, and I've had either sound buzzing issues, or intermittent black screen issues with all three of them. I'm thinking about entering the RetroTink product line for my PS2 and the RetroTink 2X Pro looks like probably the smartest option. Aside from the RetroTink 2X Pro, what other cables/products would you recommend to complete the connection/setup with it?

[@CaiadoFC]

Adam , can you please do a video, comparing the retro tink, ossc, and frameister? A video comparing all video scalers you have.

[@clumpyschlipz7571]

The only time I've used scanlines was when using the n64 on the framiester through s video as it actually masked some of the noise and dithering while running in 720p

[@jedimaster12100]

The Retrotink 2x Pro Multiformat supports 480p. I think it is better for the PS2 from other videos I have watched. I am getting both, but the Multiformat first.

[@ianeons9278]

23-year-old in 2020:I want DreamCast,GameCube,PS2,and Xbox in 4K!!! 23-year-old in 2030:I want Ouya,Wii U,PS4,and Xbox One on a holographic display on Mars in 800000000K!!!

[@AdamKoralik]

Hey now....no one will want an Ouya.

[@ianeons9278]

Yeah probably.It sold less than the Virtual Boy.

[@davidste60]

Second planet problems.

[@cax1175]

Adam, have you at least tried all of your Dreamcast game? I only ask because I wasn't aware until recently Atlus released a game on it called Maken X.

[@AdamKoralik]

Yes, I know of Maken X.

[@MegaFinalRound]

@9:39 I would say that some people want the scan lines to get rid of that flickering that may annoy them.

[@AdamKoralik]

The flickering is much less noticable on a TV. The capture process makes it waaaaaaay more noticable.

[@MegaFinalRound]

Adam Koralik oh. That’s good to know!

[@AxelStone]

Watched the video, I might be interested in the RetroTink multiformat. I do still wonder what it does to the aspect ratio for 4:3 games..

[@user-jr1hm3jw2i]

Great video. Looking into this for sega saturn. I went and pre ordered rgb cables to replace the originals. I was told to use retrotink to help it out. Have you tried saturn?

[@AdamKoralik]

Yes, I believe I showed it in my original RetroTink video.

[@WhiteJarrah]

Have you considered getting an OSSC 1.6? Judging by your videos you seem to run everything through the mClassic. Given that you're retro setup is either RGB SCART or YPbPr component and you seem content with the 2x mode, I think the OSSC 1.6 might be what you're looking for. The mClassic only seems to support the 2x mode on the OSSC and the OSSC supports 240p, 480i, 480p, 720p and 1080i, plus the PAL equivalents.

[@AdamKoralik]

The native HDMI version? I have one.

[@WhiteJarrah]

@@AdamKoralik That's the one. Can we expect a review in the near future?

[@atomiswave1971]

Your explanations are a bit over done. The reason the pro doesn't work with 480p is because its upscaling to 480p max. Its designed to upscale 240p to 480p. The tech inside that does that does not allow pass through which is a shame. If you plug 480p into this device you see 2 images, one on the left for the odd field lines and one on the right for the even field lines. All these filter/smoothings and such and it doesn't have a passthrough switch.. I was going to buy one of these, but since the scanlines are a bit over done I think i'll wait for a later model that does them better. Or just get an OSSC, which does them brilliantly. I think you have one, so if your knowledgeable you should know how to get the best from it.

[@dlang6487]

Honestly the GBS-8200 with custom firmware and the mcable looks great on the PS2 with the motion adaptive deinterlacing. If you get a chance, try it out.

[@nerdyneedsalife8315]

I agree but it is not plug and play. You have to mod it with firmware, mod with a resistor for certain consoles for sync, and not many cases are made with it. I want one but I'm willing to do some of that dirty work.

[@dlang6487]

@@nerdyneedsalife8315 Never said it was plug and play; just said it looks great on PS2.

[@gospelnote20001]

Good evening. I am just now getting into retro gaming and looking for the best set up using the retrotink. The consoles I purchased were: 1. N64 2. SNES 3. Game cube What else do I need to purchase cable wise? I have a 4k LG OLED tv.

[@Becko1]

As for Wii it works really good if you setup the Wii on 480i signal

[@AdamKoralik]

...Why in the world would you intentionally do that?

[@danielposey0620]

I’d definitely turn the line doubling off when using the Ps2 cuz it was making the graphics all super jittery. It actually looked better just through straight composite or component.

[@AdamKoralik]

That's more of a byproduct of the capture process, you wouldn't notice that on a TV.

[@gregjarvis1232]

@@AdamKoralik You never said that in the video!

[@AdamKoralik]

@@gregjarvis1232 Some stuff gets left out.

[@clonusmaximus4600]

Would this solution work well with the Saturn? I bought component cables for my Saturn but my Vizio can’t read the 240p signal. I’m assuming that this will line double the Saturn to 480p and make it look pretty crisp

[@AdamKoralik]

Yep, that's pretty much what it's for

[@clonusmaximus4600]

Adam Koralik awesome, thanks dude

[@audiogear474]

Hey Adam-I'm pretty sure you can output 480i over component for wii and wii U. You just have to do it in the settings.

[@AdamKoralik]

...Good God...why would you want to do that? That's like making your cereal with urine instead of milk.

[@audiogear474]

@@AdamKoralik Well you had mentioned for the Retrotink that it did not support the 480P from wii/U and if you run 480i through component to retrotink you get all the features of the retrotink and output through HDMI vs just using the composite or s video to input through the retrotink.

[@AdamKoralik]

@@audiogear474 No no no, trust me, that's not what you want to do. It goes back to the rotten eggs analogy.

[@audiogear474]

@@AdamKoralik Well i dont have one to experiment with but just assumed the video scaler in the retrotink might be better than the one in wii and plus the ability to do HDMi. I personally use a wii dual but was just throwing that out there.

[@Maidvelia]

If the multi-format existed before I got the OSSC, I would've got that instead probably. It's most likely going to be cheaper than the OSSC if I had to guess.

[@tattooedmillionair]

If anyone whom noticed can help me out: at what point in the video does he talk about the s-video? Early in, it (the s-video) is recognized as a feature and he says he'll get back to that... Did I miss it? He dose compare component to composite, so basically "only use component cables" is the message I'm getting.

[@williammoore1030]

Which of the up res devices do you use?

[@AdamKoralik]

Depends on the console, there's no universal solution.

[@lpfan091989]

Why is the ps2 image flickering when using the retro tink 2x on component? How does this setup compare to like ps2 on scart?

[@AdamKoralik]

Deinterlacing, the capture device doesn't like it. But on a TV you wouldn't notice nearly as much.

[@Riful]

So 2x Pro or RetroTINK-2X Pro Multi-format for PS2 use? Or at that price point OSSC?

[@AdamKoralik]

I'm not really a fan of the OSSC to be honest.

[@Riful]

@@AdamKoralik Oh really? Why is that?

[@AdamKoralik]

@@Riful It's really only good at RGB signals, and the output tends to be incompatible with things like the mCable, mClassic, capture devices, and so on.

[@Riful]

@@AdamKoralik Ah I see, makes sense. And thoughts on the 2X Pro Multi-format based off what you've read/seen?

[@AdamKoralik]

@@Riful Too early to form a legitimate opinion.

[@angeles2425]

PS2 can look great. Try this setup Adam. ps2 component - XRGB mini, 480P, Game 1 - mCable - Scanline generator - TV. You need scanlines to hide stuff you dont want to see. Try bouth P and I content.

[@AdamKoralik]

I mean, that was the sample I used in the video. I stand by my position on scanlines. The problem is how few games support 480p.

[@angeles2425]

@@AdamKoralik I use to hate them too. But much like with the mCable, It grows on you. Now I cant Play anthing with out those 2 things.

[@zanychelly]

Without scanlines some games outputs flicker a lot.

[@AdamKoralik]

That's just from the capture process. It's deinterlacing, the human eye is less sensitive to it than the capture devices are.

[@Ballowax]

@@AdamKoralik no that's just you uploading this video in 30fps. If you uploaded in 60fps, the 480i flicker would have been a lot faster

[@TheUpliftingGuy]

The only down side for me would be that there's no 4:3 & 16:9 switch on it.

[@frankwhite2072]

The line doubling creates visual issues on shinobi.

[@MadWinter889]

Waiting for Adam's omelet cookbook.

[@Deanster101]

Came for the omelette recipe, was not disappointed.

[@vickitreloar7797]

they have stopped making tvs with component inputs where i live i managed to get 2 lg tvs before they stopped producing them dont know about other consoles but my 3900 fat ps2 looks good through hd retro vision cables the tv does a lot of processing almost looks hd no need for enhancement

[@dahjord]

i dont know what to use the 2x pro for anymore everything looks better with scart cables anyways for old consoles

[@majinvipergaming]

So the one box with Scart, Sega Saturn to RetroTink2X Scart to TV = Saturn RGB on a modern display?

[@AdamKoralik]

Saturn ---> RGB SCART Cable ---> RetroTink 2X SCART = Yes, Saturn RGB on modern display. Though I recommend adding an mClassic.

[@majinvipergaming]

@@AdamKoralik thanks bro I appreciate it.

[@Rotoid]

Oh man why the picture in this Shinobi game is flickering like crazy? I guess it looked the best way with just component in this example, all the other devices & filters just killed it.

[@AdamKoralik]

Capture device is more sensitive than the human eye. So it brings out the flaws your eyes wouldn't notice on a TV.

[@FloStudios]

One thing I'm not clear on: Is it meant to take RGB signals over the component cables, or YPbPr signals? Or can it understand either/or without inaccurate colors?

[@AdamKoralik]

It can support both.

[@Orpheusftw]

Not that you didn't explain it thoroughly, but I'm so ignorant to this stuff that I'm still confused. Been using composite the whole time not because I'm satisfied with it at all, but because I don't know where to start. I'd like a solution that would work for my PS1 and Dreamcast as well, but this doesn't seem to be it. Would the scart version work with all three? 🤷‍♂️

[@AdamKoralik]

I wouldn't recommend it for either of those consoles. There isn't a universal answer unfortunately. Short version, with the PS1, if you're using original hardware, then yes this works. But I recommend using a PS3 for PS1 games. Dreamcast, lots of options here. Best of the best is DCHDMI (DC Digital) plus an mClassic. But if you want to go without modification, use an Akura HDMI box, and an mClassic. I've done a lot of videos on the Dreamcast addressing this.

[@Orpheusftw]

Appreciate it matey. 👌I'll look into that.

[@ChrisEvans66]

Hey brotha. I can't get a signal from my retrotink 5x pro to my elgato hd60. Is there a fix for this? Thank you in advance

[@lenincardoso621]

do you want the Commodore 64 game console 3rd Generation console???????

[@AdamKoralik]

It's really more of a home computer.

[@alexisaguirrevazquez7900]

Best solution for ps2. Get a CRT with component.

[@alexisaguirrevazquez7900]

@Ryan Vetter It's a 20 inch Trinitron. Kinda heavy after a while, but I had it in my car for most of the time, so I didn't have to walk around with it much.

[@iM16A1Detroit]

Man said he was tinkering with it 😂😂

[@armorwolf7934]

Shinobi was actually gonna be on Dreamcast but then they made it ps2 exclusive when sega discontinued Dreamcast also what you think about ossc with ps2 plus I’ve noticed some games look more clear then others on ps2 and I have component games like tekken 4, burnout revenge and Tenchu 3 actually look decent just with component crt is best tho with ps2 looks the most clear

[@AdamKoralik]

Most of the Sega games of that era were intended for the Dreamcast, yeah.

[@mexia1213]

So I just purchased the Genesis model 1 Version. Haven’t purchased any of the needed cables yet. You recommend the HD Retro Vision cables to go along with the Retro Tink 2X Pro and nothing else needed?

[@AdamKoralik]

Depends on your budget. Personally I went with the Framemeister, RGB SCART cables, and an mClassic.

[@mexia1213]

Adam Koralik thank you

[@HaroldTheTree]

Do you think that using the Retrotink 2X Pro is the best at achieving the highest quality video & audio feed to HDMI for the PS2? You see, what I'm currently trying to achieve is being able to record PS2 gameplay footage at the highest achievable quality that it can output.

[@AdamKoralik]

I'll have a new video about this very soon. Sit tight, but short answer...wait for the RetroTink 5X.

[@HaroldTheTree]

From the resurch that I've done, I have discovered that it is technically possible to find the perfect capture card, HDMI adapter, monitor HDMI input, usb input, and PS2 video & audio output cables.

[@HaroldTheTree]

@@AdamKoralik Nice! I've heard good things about the brand. If you don't mind me asking, I could use a little help with a couple bits of information about very specific PS2 video/audio output configuration for a specific game for a very specific reason. I am making a educational video for my fellow PS2 enthusiasts, that will explain exactly everything you need to get, and everything you need to do, to get the truest most pure video footage of a specific game.

[@sincityblue03]

Hey Adam, I still have my Genesis Model 2/Sega CD/32X setup connected to my Framemeister via RGB SCART, to my Sony 4K TV. Is this still the best way or should I do the whole genesis component to the retro tink 2 to the mCable to the TV like you mentioned in this video? Thank you, friend.

[@AdamKoralik]

The mClassic would he an option, while it would help certain things, the smoothing effect on 2D content isn't for everyone.

[@chchris25]

I love scanlines!

[@Stevenmelamed]

Hey Adam... I have the otaku scart Switch. Not sure if you're familiar with them. Sure I can get the retrotink scart but It has a component output which my TV doesn't seem to recognize since it's 240p. Do you think the retrotink pro could help with that?

[@AdamKoralik]

Both RetroTink models will output at 480p, so either one will fix the resolution problem

[@Lookwhatthesandsdonedidtome]

Will this gizmo fix the ps2 sound issues (distortion/crackling)?

[@I979WarMachine]

Question for you. If I have the cables from HD Retrovision cables for Genesis connected to my Tube TV, can I still play light gun games? Same thing for the Original Playstation, Saturn, NES, SuperNES? Is it possible to play gun games while trying to get the best output?

[@AdamKoralik]

If you have a CRT that supports component, then yeah you kind of have the best of both worlds. No reason it shouldn't work with lightguns if it's a CRT.

[@josephpiedmonte]

I thought the PS2 composite footage looked way better than what was suggested as best practice

[@AdamKoralik]

You may need glasses then my friend.

[@tattooedmillionair]

I agree with you. Coming thru on my desk top computer screen (Samsung flat screen about 18" wide x 12" tall), the composite footage shown here in this video @ 23:27 is definitely better.

[@RaymondYouTube1]

Hey Adam, are you looking forward to get an 8K TV to play your Next-Gen games on native 8K?

[@AdamKoralik]

I highly doubt PS5 or Xbox Series X will have any 8K content

[@RaymondYouTube1]

Adam Koralik are you sure about that? Because people and resources have said that PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X are capable of 8K.

[@AdamKoralik]

@@RaymondKZbin1 Good luck seeing that realized outside of the dashboards or maybe a handful of racing games.

[@RaymondYouTube1]

Adam Koralik okay, maybe not native 8K, I think they just meant 8K support while playing 4K upscaled to 8K. Maybe 8K video playback is possible. It’s like when 4K support was on PS4 and Xbox One as just video playback. Later on, true 4K gaming was introduced with PS4 Pro and Xbox One X. If it’s possible on those systems then it’ll be possible with the PS5 and Xbox Series X. But the point is are looking forward for an 8K TV for 8K content? I know they’re really expensive, I know 8K is still a new thing. But it’s your decision.

[@HugxoMartinez]

Is the flickering with line doubling part of it or is it a capture card issue?

[@markderoller7645]

Using retro 2x pro, which console will produce the best quality picture for a ps1 game? Ps1 with svideo, or ps2 with component? Thanks

[@AdamKoralik]

It won't work with component. I recommend RGB SCART, assuming you want to use original hardware. Alternative is to use a PS3 via HDMI.

[@munozmm88]

Your omelet explanation was gold lmao

[@chaospoet]

Hate to ask this but after searching I couldn't find an answer. You mentioned that your tv does have component inputs. I have one that does as well (though it's just a run of the mill HD tv I got for like $70 at Walmart on a Christmas sale like 5 years ago). What's the difference between just plugging straight in and plugging component cables into a device like this? I'm just going to assume due to not being able to find any information that there's a reason why you wouldn't plug straight in and would use something like this but it seems like an extra step to me.

[@AdamKoralik]

That's an extremely long answer. But the short version is... Old consoles generally output a low resolution 240p signal. HDTVs can't understand that, and they know they can't, so they just upscale it to 480i, or you just get a black screen. The problem there is that they not only do it poorly, but they also add interlacing to the image. This people need devices like this. There are almost no HDTVs that natively support 240p signals and display them correctly.

[@chaospoet]

@@AdamKoralik Gotcha. Thanks, Adam!

[@crandor6]

23:25 is that........ better? there's so much flickering

[@AdamKoralik]

It's a byproduct of the recording process. The equipment is way more sensitive to deinterlacing than the human eye would be on a TV.

[@dakotafoy1996]

My ps2 is hooked up to a 60 inch 4k tv and using 10 dollar component cable looks like garbage will this 2x pro alone help upscale to at least 1080p and 16:9.

[@AdamKoralik]

PS2 is annoying, you can never make it look good. Just less bad.

[@OGaurabless]

why does line doubling + component make the picture jump around on ps2? is that how it looks in the real world or just on the capture?

[@AdamKoralik]

Because the source is 480i, so it's basically trying to artificially produce 480p without enough data. IE, it shakes.

[@OGaurabless]

@@AdamKoralik thanks for explaining! have you tried the mClassic upscaler combined with any of the devices in the video? does it make any difference?

[@AdamKoralik]

@@OGaurabless Oh many times. The eternal struggle with the PS2 is that it can never look good, just degrees of less bad.

[@OGaurabless]

@@AdamKoralik makes sense, so probably the best way is an actual flatscreen crt with component or maybe just emulating the experience. I recently got a slim ps2 again (since when they originally came out) so I was wondering the best way for it to look crisp on modern displays.

[@AdamKoralik]

@@OGaurabless Yeah, good luck. I personally use a hacked 60 GB fat PS3 that supports PS2 games. Then I add an mClassic to that. It's...presentable. But again, PS2 games just....they can't look good, they can only look degrees of less bad.

[@VicariousReality]

Would this be good for PS1 games and games in collections that were made well before the 6th gen (Like MMX1 - 3 in the MMX Collection)? I ask because every time I want to play these kinds of games, I always have to swap out my component cables for composite ones due to the picture position always being offset to the right-hand side, regardless of any screen adjustment attempts.

[@AdamKoralik]

I'm unfamiliar with that particular problem... Are you trying to run PS1 games on a PS2 with component cables?

[@VicariousReality]

@@AdamKoralik Yup, along with SNES games as part of PS2 collections.

[@michiganjack1337]

Will this work with the PS2 - PS1 back compat? I suppose you would just need to plug in composite for PS1 games?

[@AdamKoralik]

Yes, because it'll fix the resolution problem. But use component, not composite.

[@michiganjack1337]

@@AdamKoralik Thanks Adam. 🖖

[@nvc.]

There is the new retrotink 2X multi. That suports the 480p signal and you can use it for wii, xbox, ps2 and dreamcast and have no problemas.. ok my bad.. put down the comment too soon! Ahahah. I got the 2x pro and ill be geting the 2x pro M when available in Europe with videogamesperfection. Also waiting for retrovision hd cables but i cant find the adaptor for the NeoGeo anymore :(

[@2sallads]

is there a way to fix the micro usb port on the retrotink itself? It seems to be loose and barely reads it anymore unless i push the wire down with an object or something.

[@AdamKoralik]

Not sure, that's the problem is USB micro unfortunately. Bad design.