Reverse Flash/Professor Zoom: Unpopular Opinions/Hot Takes

[@thesausageman5388]

I love the little snicker at my name 😂

[@mactcom7887]

😂😂😂😂

[@webslinger4733]

I think the “Reverse Flash killed Barry’s mom” retcon was unnecessary. Not only did Barry not having a tragic backstory make him stand out from other superheroes, but the retcon & Flashpoint basically got flanderized as Barry’s defining story/character arc and that sucks imo.

[@kameronbailey6939]

I always forget that there was a time in Flash comics where Henry and Nora were alive and well. Actually, wish that was kept ngl. Would be interesting to see where Flash stories would be if that was kept.

[@srstriker6420]

Yeah because it’s completely frustrating that this is canon as if I was writing the Flash I would to write this as it’s rushed and with Time Travel it’s hard to explain

[@kameronbailey6939]

@@srstriker6420 honestly agree

[@daraghokane4236]

@@srstriker6420 For New 52 they should have given Barry a normal childhood as Zoom was removed from the Timeline.

[@jaegerwhatifs4679]

I think that's exactly the best thing about Reverse Flash. He does screwed up stuff throughout time and he's just a hater.

[@daraghokane4236]

There is a Flash without Professor zoom, I think in zooms first timeline Barry did everything he did in silver age but I don't know Mirror master was his arch enemy. And when Zoom went back into to met the flash he added himself to the Flash lore and it went from a goffy brave and the bold silver age Flash, to a more Darker version of DC. I think Zoom knows this and he wanted to force himself into the flash lore.

[@emperoranime4885]

Thawne is absolutely my favorite Villain in the DC universe

[@UniverseChronology]

I have a couple, so this will be a long one: I think Hunter Zolomon (Zoom) is a better villain than Eobard Thawne (Professor Zoom/Reverse Flash). Geoff Johns really had a talent for reinventing Flash rogues and it shows with Zoom. Instead of being another dude from the future or having a connection to the speed force, he was a former ally and friend to Wally West, working a forensic scientist, before a tragedy led him to try and use the cosmic treadmill to alter time but it literally exploded in his face, causing him to be disconnected from time itself. This makes him more unique than other speedster villains, as this disconnection allows him to basically be as fast as he wants, able to be faster than literally any speedster if he wants to, Wally literally had to absorb the speed force from other speedsters just to keep up with him. This makes him probably the most dangerous of any speedster villain but his powers also make him way more unstable. His obsession with Wally is also deeper than just pettiness like it is with Reverse Flash and Barry, Zoom views Wally as someone who isn't good enough to be a hero, someone who isn't willing to risk it all just to save someone like how Wally refused to risk the timeline to help Hunter. Zoom's entire motivation is to make him experience a big enough tragedy to turn him into a more effective hero, basically becoming his worst enemy in order to make him a better hero which is a way more interesting motivation to me than what we get with Thawne. Another hot take is that I don't like the retcon that Reverse Flash killed Barry's mother. It was introduced after Barry's return and serves really no purpose outside of giving him a closer connection to Barry personally and lead to the Flashpoint storyline but it all just feels pretty unnecessary to me, he was already a brilliant and brutal nemesis for Barry without the retcon, so I don't see why they felt the change had to be made besides the late 2000s constant push to make comics more edgy. It also was a retcon that I feel damaged Barry's character, it made his heroism a result of tragedy instead of him just being a guy who wanted to help people, was a fan of superheroes, had a love of science, and an optimistic outlook on the future. We don't need more heroes born of tragedy, we can just see good people be heroes.

[@viaisagirlkisser]

I really like him as a character but Captain Cold feels more like an arch-nemesis to Flash to me. He has more come-backability, if that makes sense.

[@tyrellmultimedia]

Agreed. He has too many powerful abilities and his plans are too wide scale to have him as a common/recurring villain.

[@Shadowkiller-dq2ju]

I feel like putting in Reverse Flash in small bits like every time Barry is close to death Reverse flash saves him real quick like a frame because reverse flash can’t exist if Barry dies

[@benparrish672]

Eobard Thawne The Reverse Flash is one of the best supervillains in fiction. The Negative Speed-Force is one of the best powersets in comics

[@THEINFINITEBLACKDYNAMITE]

I like what they did on CW's The Flash, where Eobard Thawne is The Reverse Flash, & Hunter Zolomon is Zoom with The Black Suit. Eobard Thawne/The Reverse Flash is undisputedly & undoubtedly Mount Rushmore Of Villains. I think he should be on The Legion Of Doom as number 2 in command & advisor to Luthor. Lex founds & leads The Legion, but when Lex comes up with thoughts against The League, Thawne just shakes his head yes or no. That yes or no headshake means it will workout historically or not for The Legion or not.

[@Chris1this]

Eobard Thawne is easily my favorite villain after reading Flashpoint and watching Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay. I mean I don’t think there is a villain that’s as devious or petty like reverse flash. Imagine every single bad moment of your life , from birth to becoming a superhero, was caused by your biggest fan turned arch nemesis💀RF is the biggest opp

[@kitebrethren]

They had him on a team in Legends of Tomorrow, which I think was interesting. The other members of the team were acutely aware of just how powerful he was and began to question why they were on a team with him to begin with. The idea that he needs a team because he doesn’t have enough time to do his dirty work since he’s running from Black Flash was kinda cool. That team was called the “Legion of Doom.” I think having Thawne on a team just implies that there has to be weird circumstances for him to be on a team, which can be something to play with in the writers’ room. Even him being on team Flash was because his speed wasn’t all there.

[@jeancaron9325]

I like to see T.M.M Sinister six for Shazam or Firestorm, How would you improved their villains.

[@TrafalgarD.Wat3rLaw]

Great video! Could you maybe add Red Tornado to the list? A lot of people know him because of Young Justice but, he's really a great character in his own right.

[@tyrellmultimedia]

Will do!

[@daraghokane4236]

I have a story for Reverse Flash that hasn't been done. You can do Superior Spiderman but with the Flash Zooms entire Goal was I love the flash I want to be him I want to marry his wife I want to be him and be rembered like he was. Have that happen have zoom get to do that for a bit He is the flash he fights the rouges and mind controls iris into marrying him. Zoom Causes accidents just so he can save the day and have people watch and adore him. hell with the Time travel Gimmic you can go dark and have Zoom actually kill villains. You can have Zoom try to do everything barry did then get pissed that he isn't loved for it like Barry was. He would have to face the fact that he is a diffrent person then Barry and no matter how hard he tries he can never be Barry. His goal is not anoy and ruin barrys day his goal Is I want to be Barry

[@srstriker6420]

Thanks for bringing up my comment because like Endgame time travel rule is the most frustrating as when they change something it doesn’t effect anything and 14:11 it’s something like the Turtle and the still force power that he has? Who’s next for this Riddler,Penguin or Ra’s al ghoul?

[@blurgotron7242]

aye i got in the video

[@theapocalypseishere1465]

Great video!!

[@smargio]

Rip. I was hoping that my comment on the legacy status of reverse flash would be mentioned.

[@JewishSeaslug7575]

I think a good idea injustice had (could’ve happened before knowing comics it probably has but more of a Batman guy) but Reverse Flash coming back in time originally to mess with Barry (personally I’d prefer he gets stuck after he’s fought flash once, not after killing Barry’s mom) but essentially after the first visit you have a justice league story happen something where they change an outcome that was meant to happen causes reverse flash to get stuck in present day since technically he no longer has a future to go back to not his future, so yeah there are definitely holes in this but it’s comics and if you did say he was stuck for whatever reason it would at least give a reason for him to be around and you could go plenty of directions with it, sorry that was long but I remember really liking reverse flash’s dialogue in injustice 2 when he was accusing Barry of messing with history and ruining his life (again)

[@dukeslytalker1192]

You should do this for the rouges

[@tyrellmultimedia]

I'm going to start doing unpopular opinions for groups or teams soon!

[@dukeslytalker1192]

@@tyrellmultimedia great to here!

[@alexandermota4621]

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[@tyrellmultimedia]

Hey thanks so much! I'm glad you found my content and video's that you enjoy!

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Alright. This is my suggestion to clear up all of the Speedster issues. All Flash villains should become extremely dangerous.I'm using a concept based upon the lore of the Flash type Characters and the different types of forces like the Speed Force, Strength Force, and Slow Force. Turtle should master the Slow Force. Gorilla Grod and Trickster should tap into the Mind Force. Mirror Master taps into the mirror dimension. Captain Cold becomes such a master of thermodynamics that he and Heatwave control the atmosphere itself in opposite ways. Reverse Flash should become the Master of the Negative Speed Force, which should draw its origin from the Dark Multiverse. Have him learn more and be connected there by travelling there. Barry Allen should become one with the Speed Force and its Avatar. Wally West should be a conduit of the Speed Force. That would separate them. Jay Garrick should be like a battery for the Speed Force. He can run out if he sustains its use for too long, which could age him faster. Bart Allen should be someone who was born with access to the Speed Force. Wallace West should be based upon acceleration and velocity instead of raw speed. It would require different training. Savitar should simply be a God of Speed from the God Sphere. Godspeed should be an example of someone fully giving into the Speed Force without training and the Mental Health issues that come with it.

[@michaelpasalic2380]

Greate take on the Flash/Reverse Flash. I agree with the comments sent in by one of your fans. Thawn needs to be a more pivotal villain and not the first one for the Flash. He's got a great story line, and would be an end to a season with a cliffhanger, or have his demise (or the uncertainty of his death) be the season finale. Too bad Zach wasn't able to create a movie for this story, I would have loved to see it on the big screen

[@danielendless]

Mainstream isn't gonna buy Non Speedsters as threats to Flash anymore. Madvocate definitely woke me up

[@dukeslytalker1192]

Same 😂

[@daraghokane4236]

Mirror master and Abra Kadabra can cast Illusions no matter how fast Barry is that would distract him. Mirror master can be in more then one place at the same time Barry can't, the Top can make Barry dizzy and disorientated , Cold and the Turtle slow him down to a crawl, And you know what In the CW show it makes sense for a ton of these Villains to beat Barry that guy who can multiple should be appeal to overwhelm him, the stupid bad guy going look over there barry, barry looks away for 3 seconds dam there gone thing is stupid in that show I believe Barry will look over there But I have no idea how the villian ran away and hid so fast

[@xD3viLxlI]

Black Canary next or Captain Cold?

[@alphawilliams7923]

Tbh: I like how the CW did with Hunter Solomon and Zoom. Most People these days don't like him more than the reverse flash.

[@Leptitsingerouge]

Make a flash series. Write a lot of side characters, barry's friend, family, even the nice hot dog guy he met everyday. Make the flash hold a strong link with his city. Even the rogues are a part of this ecosystem somehow. Then Zoom appears, he beats flash, incapacitates him and then. Kill. Everyone. And then kill him at the end of the story. Short. Game changing. A little too dark maybe

[@WeebGuru6]

Bruh the cw flash did us a favor when making these 2 different and it worked

[@kitebrethren]

I think the Flash is a lot more interesting slower. His powers are kinda boring if they’re only being scaled against speedsters, who are just arbitrarily extremely fast beyond all comprehension. I’m not sure if it’s ever been used as an idea before in regards to the flash, but wouldn’t running at the speed of light or even way slower than that with his mass just be heating up the air around him to the point of vaporizing whoever he’s running past? I mean I guess the speed force prevents stuff like that. But what if it didn’t? What if the speedster villain wasn’t faster than the Flash, but instead more willing to cause damage to the general public by running full speed past them?

[@tyrellmultimedia]

Its true... We've seen what A-Train could do 😂

[@SpikeyXSTheRedHood]

I think Reverse Flash is overrated, I like him don’t get me wrong but he’s way more overrated than half the villains in DC now he’s not even petty he’s just evil, Petty is Lex Luthor not Thawne I hate when people say he’s being petty that’s not being petty it’s being evil

[@alexkunce2002]

Professor Zoom is kinda a dumb name, for one because professors are known to be smart/learned, and that's not part of his powerset. Yeah, he's good at planning, but so is the Joker, and he's not Professor Joker. And the onomatopoeia is just a little silly. Zoom as a name works because it's short and fitting, but putting it at the end of the name just...ruins the effect.

[@prosperotorres7965]

Zoom is a better name than Prof Zoom or Reverse Flash

[@GhostfaceGil]

First!!!