Review: 2023 Toyota Supra (Manual) - Better than Z?

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Matt Maran Motoring

Matt Maran Motoring

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@S4XNE
@S4XNE 2 жыл бұрын
The most condensed review you’ve put out in years. I know you’ve been talking about moving in this direction for awhile now and I really hope it helps the channel to be as profitable as possible. Nobody does reviews quite like you, Matt. You deserve to make a fortune and I hope this new channel direction helps you attain just that. Fantastic work, as always. Thank you for all of your hard work and sacrifice over the years. I promise it doesn’t go unnoticed.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the comment Shane, I really appreciate it.
@raist315
@raist315 2 жыл бұрын
Before all the fighting starts, look at the cars we're getting lately! Now, continue the Z vs Supra arguments.
@youngbrevy
@youngbrevy 2 жыл бұрын
Journalists actually enable the fighting as well. However let’s enjoy the cars! Z/Supra/GRCorolla/TypeR/GolfR/ElantraN/
@tkelly5422
@tkelly5422 2 жыл бұрын
Who`s getting all these cars? Manufacturers make 10 of them per year and the dealers pit customers against each other in bidding wars to get them.
@mrwhips3623
@mrwhips3623 2 жыл бұрын
@@youngbrevy I only drive Bugatti
@youngbrevy
@youngbrevy 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrwhips3623 I can beat that! I only drive the Euro Accord 6 spd manual 💪🏾 lol
@voss456
@voss456 2 жыл бұрын
No, this is good. The Supra vs. Fairlady was THE rivalry in the 90’s when it came to Japanese, rwd, sports car/sports tourers. One last time we can have the famous Nissan vs Toyota rivalry back, before it’s gone forever by the next decade.
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone saying it’s too late for a manual Supra is just plain stupid. Too late for what? Were you going to buy one two years ago but now your life is way too busy and you’re hosting too many pool parties in Malibu that you can’t possibly be bothered to go to a dealership? Or in two years has your wife spit out 8 kids and you’re stuck to the mini van life? People saying it’s too late have no clue what they are talking about and probably drive Corollas. There’s plenty of people like me that will buy one now that they have a manual
@activeirving
@activeirving 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I think it came at a perfect timing to avoid the 1st year flips and now people can choose a NEW manual or a used Automatic assuming a lot of first year users will be trading it in.
@thisistherealkit
@thisistherealkit 2 жыл бұрын
Mostly, They are the same people that talk trash about Toyota’s choice “I will only buy it IF they offer manual” and then the day came
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 2 жыл бұрын
@@thisistherealkit I was one of those people but I actually am buying one lol
@chrisginoc
@chrisginoc 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota fan here since 1987 here. Ive owned Tacomas, Corollas, etc. Toyota HAD to include a 6MT because of the Z being released. But what nobody is talking about the 2023 M2 6MT is going on April 2023. I wonder where the Supra will stand within the next 12-16 months. Will it go down as an all time classic? Only time will tell
@kobedabest
@kobedabest 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Most of the people complaining about BMW this Automatic that can't really afford it. They should stick to their Civic and keep swapping engines. 😂
@rembo183
@rembo183 2 жыл бұрын
This may be my next car! I love the styling it just needed a manual! Only issue will be dealer MARKUPS!!!
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 2 жыл бұрын
wait like a year or 2.....dealers will be desperate to sell
@bobb.7899
@bobb.7899 2 жыл бұрын
Find another dealer. Called several near me and most would sell at MSRP. Have a deposit on an A91 hope it works out.
@Drupra88
@Drupra88 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobb.7899 any idea when yours is coming in. Im on the east coast waiting for an A91. Called the dealer today and it went from end of this month til mid December now. Apparently they’re holding it 45 days before they ship it. Bummed
@bobb.7899
@bobb.7899 2 жыл бұрын
@@Drupra88 It is in NJ waiting to ship. was built 7-7-22. Going to call dealer tomorrow and check on status. I am hoping they released them now that Toyota had the big press and driving event in Utah.
@Drupra88
@Drupra88 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobb.7899 thanks for the reply. Thats cool yours is almost here. I think mine is still overseas. Hopefully you get yours soon and enjoy
@mistamaog
@mistamaog 2 жыл бұрын
First Supra manual review on my feed 🙂
@刘钇辰
@刘钇辰 2 жыл бұрын
Good review. I just purchased the manual Supra, arriving in Dec. It will be the very first manual Supra in Singapore. I use action to save the manual and my support to Toyota.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats, and thank you for helping to save the manuals!
@Teledible
@Teledible 2 жыл бұрын
Hey can you detail your process of getting the Manual in Singapore? Couldnt seem to get much information on it and would totally like to have someone to talk to about this
@刘钇辰
@刘钇辰 2 жыл бұрын
@@Teledible You have to call Borneo or the big parallel importer dealers to check if they have any shipment of the manual Supra. I’d say do it frequently to try your luck. Since I know the release of the manual Supra, I called many times to show my sincerity to get my one. This is a niche market so very few dealers are bringing in the car.
@Teledible
@Teledible 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats to you by the way cant wait to see it roaming the streets of Singapore!
@Teledible
@Teledible 2 жыл бұрын
Anyway I’m from Singapore too and im a photography enthusiast. With regards to this mk 5 Supra in manual it is something ive been thinking of for a while. If you are looking for some free photoshoots for your new car just hit me up and we can try to work something out
@curttheboywonder
@curttheboywonder 2 жыл бұрын
This video will absolutely get more views than your average video. I think you could talk Supra another 4 videos and it be the same.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah stuff like this is usually a pretty solid guarantee to do well, but amazingly my most popular review this year has been the 2023 Sequoia, so KZbin still likes to throw me a few curveballs and keep me guessing lol.
@gigatron2008
@gigatron2008 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I agree with others too late. This should of been at launch. Glad its here though! These are going to hold value like crazy.
@BitcoinTo150K
@BitcoinTo150K 2 жыл бұрын
Agree they'll kill it in 2-3 years and everyone will be like crap missed my chance then boom 100k manuals
@gigatron2008
@gigatron2008 2 жыл бұрын
@@BitcoinTo150K just like now with rhd gen4s
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 2 жыл бұрын
$100k for a Supra, haha, you must be a bitcoin hugger
@gigatron2008
@gigatron2008 2 жыл бұрын
@@fzr1000981 gen4? Manual.
@BitcoinTo150K
@BitcoinTo150K 2 жыл бұрын
@@fzr1000981 not saying anytime soon but yes in the future. Yeah I likely got more bitcoin/ethereum then anyone you ever meet 🤣
@wackit6756
@wackit6756 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I’m happy Nissan brought back the Z, I was disappointed that it used the old architecture, and an unrefined V6. It’s a good car, just not great. The Supra is such a driver focused, sharp, and rewarding sports car with the added bonus of an epic inline 6. It looks like so much fun to drive with a manual. Maybe it’s time to trade mine in?
@Unxpekted
@Unxpekted 2 жыл бұрын
The Z uses the red sport motor, those Infiniti's can make 600-800 hp. The Z is lighter, it's not going to be a slouch.
@mattyoz0
@mattyoz0 2 жыл бұрын
@@Unxpekted the z is way heavier.
@Unxpekted
@Unxpekted 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattyoz0 incorrect, new Z weights roughly 3,200 and Red Sport weighs 3,800-4,000 roughly.
@mattyoz0
@mattyoz0 2 жыл бұрын
@@Unxpekted I'm talking about the supra.
@mattyoz0
@mattyoz0 2 жыл бұрын
@@Unxpekted and no the z doesn't weigh any where near 3200 pounds.
@Eric-qx7fg
@Eric-qx7fg 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, would you personally take the manual or auto after now driving both? Great review!
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'd definitely take the manual.
@ReaversRespite
@ReaversRespite 2 жыл бұрын
I love that all my favorite rides are coming back with manuals! I'm definitely bummed I couldn't grab one at MSRP. But, am happily awaiting my RWD M240i -- a good option for those wanting to spend around 52k out the door and don't mind that it's a ZF gearbox.
@pepe8196
@pepe8196 2 жыл бұрын
Nice and you have the much better looking car too
@IIIluminate
@IIIluminate 2 жыл бұрын
I like seeing the road in your car reviews like you had around the 4 min mark. Nice touch!
@CarGuy11
@CarGuy11 2 жыл бұрын
Nice really looking forward to getting into this!
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be very curious to hear your thoughts!
@Aguon
@Aguon 2 жыл бұрын
Love it!! Supra still looks so good to me to this day
@pepe8196
@pepe8196 2 жыл бұрын
Looks fun Matt. Keep up the great work
@ychai2812
@ychai2812 2 жыл бұрын
I love that the exhaust doesnt crackle. It only made it sound cheap.
@DrZoomer
@DrZoomer 2 жыл бұрын
I’m honestly just happy that we have this wonderful Japanese sports car battle returning
@sturdyvw
@sturdyvw 2 жыл бұрын
It's german...
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 2 жыл бұрын
@@sturdyvw Agreed, a BMW with a body kit and dampers doesn't make it JDM no matter how may Toyota stickers they put on it, it's a Euro tuner car upgraded by GR.
@pmayo7894
@pmayo7894 2 жыл бұрын
@@anydaynow01 - JDM actually means "Japanese Domestic Market" (i.e. cars built to comply with Japanese rules and regulations). A Nissan Z made in Japan but destined to be sold Stateside is not really JDM.
@851995STARGATE
@851995STARGATE 2 жыл бұрын
@@anydaynow01 It's not a Body kit and dampers, prove otherwise.
@CadexLaw
@CadexLaw 11 ай бұрын
@@anydaynow01yep it’s the best part about the car, you actually get an interior that lives up to the price tag unlike most Toyotas.
@PhillyDee215
@PhillyDee215 2 жыл бұрын
THE SUPRA IS LEGENDARY😎
@z32twinturbo13
@z32twinturbo13 2 жыл бұрын
The first thing people do on a sport car. Is suspension, wheels, tire’s, and exhaust. Then eventually when they want to stand out the body kits. Front bumper, side skirts, rear bumper, fender flares etc. Now the Supra had all of that done. I’m going to drive both of them and from there pick which one I like more
@patrickstarr87
@patrickstarr87 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! I enjoy seeing white along with all the other colors in motion 🙏💙🤍
@newbwheeler9777
@newbwheeler9777 2 жыл бұрын
Weird the BMW infotainment has been regarded as one of the best if not best in the industry for years now…
@ChavaYang
@ChavaYang 2 жыл бұрын
Was not expecting this video. Awesome
@rkvang479
@rkvang479 2 жыл бұрын
What a time to be alive!
@LearningFast
@LearningFast 2 жыл бұрын
So how many of the people that are happy this car has a manual now will actually buy it? So many people just want manufacturers to offer it but they quickly realize it slows the car down and gets old quickly.
@813GC
@813GC 2 жыл бұрын
No one gets a manual and actually cares that it’s a quarter of a second slower then the auto. Car Enthusiasts want a manual. Anyone who says differently either 1. Doesn’t know how to drive one or if they do they can’t drive one well. 2. Aren’t actual car enthusiasts. I’ve driven manual for years and all of my cars have been manual only and when I had got those cars they were all brand new non used cars so I am more then willing to put my money where my mouth is. When I hear people use the excuse of manual being a pain to drive because of the clutch they haven’t driven any new manual car because 90% of newer manual car clutches are extremely light.
@813GC
@813GC 2 жыл бұрын
@@username8644 Exactly. People love to make excuses because they either can’t drive or aren’t good at driving manual.
@LearningFast
@LearningFast 2 жыл бұрын
@@813GC it is a second and a half slower 0-60 mph. That is MASSIVE.
@813GC
@813GC 2 жыл бұрын
@@LearningFast Again, no real car enthusiast is going to care about a second and a half slower 0-60…
@gtmike916
@gtmike916 2 жыл бұрын
@@LearningFast Are you drag racing on the strip or stoplight? If not then you are worried about a useless stat period. Not only that but most racing people with manuals do is roll racing or road course racing where 0-60 is useless period anyway.
@KillaRock404
@KillaRock404 2 жыл бұрын
Nissan has 400HP at the crank. The Supra is around 450HP. It’s underrated
@white09stang
@white09stang 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Matt. What would you pick between a the Supra and your Bullitt? I currently have a 19 Bullitt. Thanks
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
The Bullitt fits my life and usage case better, but if the Mustang didn't exist, I'd likely have a manual Supra or GR86.
@DucatiDiaries
@DucatiDiaries 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely looks better than the Z. Not that the Z is ugly. Just the Supra is gorgeous. Great review.
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 2 жыл бұрын
Well considering it's stitch for stitch a luxury BMW with a body kit and Toyota stickers, yes the interior will be better!
@davidsmith3746
@davidsmith3746 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, another great review, I love how you give us all the information about every car you review, that way people already have a lot of important info if they are looking to buy that car. Thanks again for the good work you do for us (your fans).
@Vayetsii
@Vayetsii 2 жыл бұрын
These still sound so good🔥
@powamoto
@powamoto 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid bro mo Powa to the Moto 🤟
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 2 жыл бұрын
The 2014 and earlier Mustangs had a cup holder cover, so you could close it and have a flat surface....why did they get rid of it in 2015 and why don't other manufactures do the covered cup holders? Makes absolutely no sense. You could 3D print a part to cover it though.
@BitcoinTo150K
@BitcoinTo150K 2 жыл бұрын
Make a new center console that does so and sell it then profit 💰
@aimanfitri0iv
@aimanfitri0iv 2 жыл бұрын
finally it's much better than before
@DWH300
@DWH300 2 жыл бұрын
From 2021 sales numbers. I was somewhat surprised that Supra sales were only 6830 in the US. Considering pricing of $43,290 for the base 255 horsepower turbo 4 cylinder up to $54,790 for the 382 horsepower 6 cylinder premium trim. That may be the reason for the low sales numbers since the 300 horsepower EcoBoost Mustang falls at or below the base Supra price while the V8 powered Mustang GT and Dodge Challenger RT falls around the premium Supra price range.
@UnlimitedGamerUNG
@UnlimitedGamerUNG 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe some people hate on Nissan Z or Supra. I'm happy we have awesome car options like these. Soon we'll have much less cars like these.
@Acemedia574
@Acemedia574 2 жыл бұрын
Love that they offer this now, but do you think it’s too late? I feel like it would have sold better if they released it within the first year of it coming out.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
I think offering the manual at launch would have definitely broadened the appeal at launch but also would have likely made wait lists even worse. I understand the reasoning for spacing it out, now 3 years later they have fresh interest in a 3 year old car and hopefully it'll be a less frustrating process to get one.
@mistamaog
@mistamaog 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's too late, there's probably not going to be another Supra after this, and since manuals are a dying breed anyways, I think people will still go for this. Especially those who were holding off or saving up for it.
@GT-RTData9
@GT-RTData9 2 жыл бұрын
No such thing as “too late”.
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong 2 жыл бұрын
What's the point in more people wanting to buy one if they are unable to build more, production capacity is limited, also it's better to spread out different versions over different years, rather than have everyone want one in the first year and have people lose interest later.
@loljunk_
@loljunk_ 2 жыл бұрын
Man I can't believe how expensive cars have become. A 5 year loan on this with $5k down is over $900 a month. New cars are truly becoming a thing for the rich.
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 2 жыл бұрын
agreed! a "new" car for me would be someone elses "old" car with 100k mi..my current car is 28yrs old.. I still love seeing the insane advances and tech and Quality thats being built into todays cars so I watch the reviews, but yeah way outta my range price wise.. 900 a month is More than half my mortgage payment
@rembo183
@rembo183 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why people buy Mustangs or Miatas! Save money! Plus the BRZ and Toyota GR86 are priced right.
@activeirving
@activeirving 2 жыл бұрын
It is expensive but everything is going up these days and these supras definitely give you your moneys worth
@jimfromma508
@jimfromma508 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for an M version…. 🙂
@SicSemperBeats
@SicSemperBeats 2 жыл бұрын
*cough cough A "GR-S" version with the s58 in it *sunglasses emoji
@Ezero8
@Ezero8 2 жыл бұрын
You mean a GR*M*N version
@SicSemperBeats
@SicSemperBeats 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ezero8 oh yeah forgot about the grmn yaris. The top end supra if there will be one provably will be grmn
@pistolpete6321
@pistolpete6321 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Matt, very exciting car!
@anthonykiedis1765
@anthonykiedis1765 2 жыл бұрын
Are those wheels black or gunmetal? They seem to change color depending on the lighting. Regardless, great review and beautiful car.
@MrSlowestD16
@MrSlowestD16 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, tiny bit of me is a little remorseful that I didn't wait until the manual (although it wasn't announced at the time), but I have enough manuals to enjoy, and that cup-holder thing would annoy the shit out of me. Still sounds good rowing through the gears. The auto needs a transmission setting between sport mode and normal mode. Sport mode holds gears too long, normal mode is in like 5th gear by 18mph, it's ridiculous, needs something between the two. So you never hear the engine unless you're cruising in sport, at which point the revs are usually wrong (too high) or are cruising in manual, or you're romping on it. Would be nice to hear that engine more with the manual, but w/e, not going to sell it and buy a new one just for that. The GR Corolla isn't a good benchmark for the adaptive cruise since it's BMW adaptive cruise. Whether the Z4/M manual has it or not is a better benchmark. Same sorta applies for the infotainment. It's a BMW CAN with BMW ECU and BMW infotainment computer, the amount of work required to get the Toyota infotainment SW to work on that is going to be a pretty large effort - it would have to be a 1-off version of the software, lots of man-hours required, and this isn't exactly a lot of car they want to invest a lot in.
@steve8803
@steve8803 Жыл бұрын
Just buy it directly through bmw. The fake toyota skin is for losers.
@MrSlowestD16
@MrSlowestD16 Жыл бұрын
@@steve8803 Eh, that wasn't an option for me as it pertains to the Supra. My situation was a little more complicated than a normal buyer.
@nicknachos1
@nicknachos1 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just glad they finally made it
@soapa4279
@soapa4279 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I'm really digging that new blue and the gray colors. Otherwise great overview Matt, you pretty much hit the nail on the head in regards to the Supra in general, while also comparing to the Z without a controversial take. And now with a manual those people who complained it didn't have one, put your money where your mouth is and go buy one to support it!
@frankiebpr
@frankiebpr 2 жыл бұрын
Is the steering wheel thicker? Did they change the horn sound for this model?
@kyle998cc
@kyle998cc 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet been waiting for this
@ryanr482
@ryanr482 2 жыл бұрын
Give us some color in the interiors in the non-limited editions. It’s the one think i hated about my bmw and vw, getting in the car was like stepping into a cave.
@Cooperdaleit
@Cooperdaleit 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review thanks Matt. Have you driven a mk4 Supra? Also was hoping you could review some older used vehicles soon. Would be fun for a look back at some cars from the earlier 2000s and how they held up. -Austin
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Austin! Never driven a mk4 unfortunately. I'm hoping I have time to film a few older used cars later this year.
@Cooperdaleit
@Cooperdaleit 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattMaranMotoring Thanks for the reply. Looking forward to some future reviews. If you were local I'd have you check out my 2006 A4 3.2 6mt. Very rare optioned car and pretty interesting! Check one out sometime.
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattMaranMotoring You should give the guys at Speed Academy a call and see if they will let you play with their stable at one of the track days they go to!
@devinosborne7785
@devinosborne7785 2 жыл бұрын
Yooooo I'M THE ONE THOUSANDTH LIKE. Love the review man. Unpopular opinion but PERSONALLY (This is a opinion) I prefer the MK5 Supra over the MK4 Supra. Always have. I respect what the MK4 means to the tuner car scene but something just strikes me about the MK5.
@drstormi
@drstormi 2 жыл бұрын
can you do a interior review of the manual? i know it’s about the same with the automatic but i’m curious with all the changes the manual comes with
@Ripperx121
@Ripperx121 Жыл бұрын
Z vs Supra all aside. This is really a good time to be a car geek. I bought the GR86 and that is fun too. Not the Supra or Z in power. The 86 is not fast it's peppy. The frustrating thing is we can't get a hold of these things easily. Buy the time I can see a few of these in the lot I will have loss interest.
@becraftcorey
@becraftcorey 2 жыл бұрын
dose the window still make a tone of noise going down the road ?
@borisstupar5147
@borisstupar5147 2 жыл бұрын
gret review with smile on the face as usual :), does it feel faster then your mustang?
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I'd say it does a little bit thanks to the better gearing.
@rickhunter6513
@rickhunter6513 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the engine noise is still fake and piped though speakers?
@bradwoods371
@bradwoods371 2 жыл бұрын
8:00 notice how the shifter moves from the torque.. good sign.
@tonyadamis4171
@tonyadamis4171 2 жыл бұрын
"Starting to arrive at the dealers"... that's a joke. Nothing is arriving at the dealers. You can get in line. You can wait. You can pay a markup. But "arriving at the dealers"? In what world is that happening?
@Barbwire710
@Barbwire710 2 жыл бұрын
There actually is a shipment of 2023 auto premium Supras, along with A91 MT Supras sitting at port right now. Should be arriving to customers this month.
@Barbwire710
@Barbwire710 2 жыл бұрын
Some people have taken delivery of the 2023 Blue (Auto) GR Supra as well.
@hongkong322
@hongkong322 2 жыл бұрын
I really want the manual to come to the 2.0
@christophedebacker1940
@christophedebacker1940 2 жыл бұрын
That blue….omg 😍
@supercooldude824
@supercooldude824 2 жыл бұрын
Who else waiting for the savage geese vid ? 🤣
@mikeolson7557
@mikeolson7557 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! I love that it finally has a manual transmission option. I too find the cupholder placement odd. Price-wise, even though they dropped the manual in the M40i, I would go for the BMW. For me it would be a better everyday driver.
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 2 жыл бұрын
Yep the new BMW clown shoe looks like it deserves to be in a circus, if I were in the market for a BMW I'll take a certified pre-owned manual M-car for the price, especially considering what the markups are going to be for these things.
@curttheboywonder
@curttheboywonder 2 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to a Buick Encore. I’m getting a racing car soon and it’s between these two.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha well I can definitively say that the Encore will do a better job of roasting the front tires with its mighty 1.3L engine!
@Bad_1nfluence
@Bad_1nfluence 2 жыл бұрын
Encore is faster. Supra will take longer bc you will be pulled over getting tickets.
@JACXOUB
@JACXOUB 2 жыл бұрын
I live for these comment interactions
@05xrunner
@05xrunner 2 жыл бұрын
According to the Toyota build page adding the manual adds $2600 up charge and a base 3.0 is like $55,120 instead of 52, 500
@aJerseyThing
@aJerseyThing 2 жыл бұрын
Because it starts with the premium trim
@05xrunner
@05xrunner 2 жыл бұрын
@@aJerseyThing no. Take the premium trim. And switch back and forth auto and manual. It’s more expensive to get the manual Looks like Toyo’s changed it. It’s only $1000 more on premium and there is now no charge on base 3.0 between auto and manual
@GodGear
@GodGear 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Review!
@colla555
@colla555 2 жыл бұрын
Since they already offered (only the 2.0 liter) Z4 with a manual, maybe they will start to offer the manual also for the 3.0l.
@ciello___8307
@ciello___8307 2 жыл бұрын
kind of doubt it. Z4 sales as it is are abysmal, and the buyer for the z4 is a lot more casual
@suprasport9118
@suprasport9118 2 жыл бұрын
I like that mechanical gear whine. Definitely great job by Toyota.
@FurkanCemTurfanda
@FurkanCemTurfanda 2 жыл бұрын
I wish it had a manual handbrake, but this is a strong contender for me. Just waiting on the new Mustang reveal.
@bobbywilliams1823
@bobbywilliams1823 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be willing to bet the new Mustang is going to have a manual handbrake
@rembo183
@rembo183 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget about the new M2 reveal in October!
@sengsythao1896
@sengsythao1896 2 жыл бұрын
Nice the new Supra finally has a manual, now take away that ridiculus automatic parking brake, put back a traditional handbrake and its completed. 😎👍
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 2 жыл бұрын
And the fake exhaust sounds, just build a great exhaust like the new optional Nismo one for the Z they showed in the Jay Leno Review.
@1SmokingLizard
@1SmokingLizard 2 жыл бұрын
Trust me, these won't sell that well in '23 as Dealers are going to f*ck it up for everyone. Sideline until a mid-cycle refresh is my suggestion. Besides, the market is gonna take a dump soon anyways.
@looneyyang1326
@looneyyang1326 5 ай бұрын
the are ending the supra. factories are closing soon.
@ihatebobsaget1989
@ihatebobsaget1989 2 жыл бұрын
This car is a updated BMW z4, with a Toyota badge. Simple as that
@pmayo7894
@pmayo7894 2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, both the Z4 and Supra aren't based on existing BMW cars. They have to build a more purpose-built platform for the two based on the Cluster Architecture design.
@sxlx
@sxlx 2 жыл бұрын
I need to test drive this
@ierik
@ierik 2 жыл бұрын
Great car for the money. While the MSRP is attractive, the markup is currently insane.
@purito84
@purito84 2 жыл бұрын
The manual definitely has the rear wheel spin and that gear ratio makes it easy but not that easy
@grisa12345
@grisa12345 2 жыл бұрын
Great time to be an enthusiast. 2023 will be the last great year of the ICE.
@samk4065
@samk4065 2 жыл бұрын
Going out on a limb but I’m thinking the automatic pops and bangs more because the revs drop more slowly off throttle.
@davisflyer
@davisflyer 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious on your thoughts of this vs Cayman?
@rembo183
@rembo183 2 жыл бұрын
Cayman is just way too expensive. To get the six cylinder you will spend well over $100k for the GTS Cayman. Plus dealer markups too!$$$$
@davisflyer
@davisflyer 2 жыл бұрын
@@rembo183 My dealer sells at MSRP. Looking at S, not GTS. About $25k more for my build. I can afford it.
@rembo183
@rembo183 2 жыл бұрын
@@davisflyer - Yes it’s a great driving sports car and I’d get one too, if I could afford a base at a better price. Frankly, the new Supra Manual selling for $54k is my choice unless it gets ruined with high markups. I was surprised to see a new base with minimal options with dealer markup for $81k out the door! That’s more than I want to spend. The Supra manual with a six cylinder looks very attractive to me at almost $30k less!
@joshuamorris9050
@joshuamorris9050 2 жыл бұрын
You’ll get more crackles and pops if u let off the throttle but stay on in just a touch
@brentengstrom5406
@brentengstrom5406 2 жыл бұрын
Saw Joe's first. Love it.
@MadelnMachines
@MadelnMachines 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t feel bad anymore that we no longer get the Nissan Z in Europe
@Pk1998AMG
@Pk1998AMG 2 жыл бұрын
If you're looking at potential, the supra is the clear winner against the Z. The B58 is capable of handling so much more power, and you don't really have to spend much to get it(relative to the pricetag of the car). You can be pushing 500 HP for under 2000 with a JB4 and downpipe.
@CadexLaw
@CadexLaw 2 жыл бұрын
B58 has proven to be more reliable too.
@ThePillager2099
@ThePillager2099 2 жыл бұрын
They didn’t fix that small wedged clearance in the console area…damn.
@stevensanchez330
@stevensanchez330 2 жыл бұрын
Wow those wheels actually look really good they look like HRE’s
@abcdLeeXY
@abcdLeeXY 2 жыл бұрын
JDM era is back! We are getting great products from Honda, Toyota and Nissan while the Germans are producing M and AMG CUVs aka grocery getters
@seanbrewer1232
@seanbrewer1232 2 жыл бұрын
Well, the Supra is German... But I dare you to tell me anytime historically that Germany and Japan worked together and it didn't work out.
@mrwhips3623
@mrwhips3623 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanbrewer1232 🤣, Well they may be onto something this time around! I'm planing on buying a Base Z and giving it the full track day treatment, but I have to admit there is no denying this GR tuner version of the new BMW clown shoe isn't fast.
@seanbrewer1232
@seanbrewer1232 2 жыл бұрын
@@anydaynow01 0-60 in 3.9 sec seems pretty fast to me 🤷
@CesarMartinez-gl9ko
@CesarMartinez-gl9ko 2 жыл бұрын
@@anydaynow01 you said base and track and I’m thinking… no LSD and bad brakes… by the time you have everything updated you pretty much pay the price of the performance and that’s not modifying suspension and you’re still slower than a Supra… yeah idk man the new Z is cool but the Supra is a way better track car. There’s a reason people are doing amazing things with new chassis at the track. The Z is more of a GT
@Bad_1nfluence
@Bad_1nfluence 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the manual can hold more power?
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
My guess would be that the manual can probably hold less power than the auto since that's typically the case, but I have no info one way or the other regarding Supra.
@davothegreat9990
@davothegreat9990 2 жыл бұрын
Going by manual supra owners on forums the manual to great stock need upgrade clutch for mods. Since mods respond so well with the b58. Even simple mods with e50 tune and downpipe the zf8 slips after a few runs.
@control2791
@control2791 2 жыл бұрын
1:06 Dented front quarter panel??
@andycalifornia426
@andycalifornia426 2 жыл бұрын
Why they don't have adaptive cruise control in Supra while they have it in Corolla? I don't know, maybe because -- and this is a well-know fact at this point -- it's not a Toyota?
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
Except the auto Supra has it, and in case you were unaware, BMW (and everyone else) also does adaptive cruise…
@andycalifornia426
@andycalifornia426 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattMaranMotoring There you go. I just pointed out that a comparison to Toyota Corolla is pointless, 'sall.
@beexiong2995
@beexiong2995 2 жыл бұрын
GR86 also does not have adaptive cruise. It is a manual mechanical shifter. I would not want the electronics ripping the shifter out of gear using adaptive cruise. I suspect the manual corolla does not have adaptive cruise? You would have to add an additional mechanical lever and computer to handle all of that on a manual transmission.
@rayestefania3725
@rayestefania3725 2 жыл бұрын
This car has to be better than a Z with the manual. Is it as good as a Cayman though? That is more an equal comparison based on performance, in my opinion.
@ryanblacklock3005
@ryanblacklock3005 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this compared to a Mach 1
@swimmer5886
@swimmer5886 2 жыл бұрын
What are your top two color picks?
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
Stratosphere Blue followed by Nitro Yellow. Still love that color :)
@carloscaro860
@carloscaro860 2 жыл бұрын
The pace on the track was lack luster
@stevenjames1138
@stevenjames1138 2 жыл бұрын
Usually enjoy your videos, but I was really hoping for more talk about how this manual Supra compares to the new Z (and maybe even to your Bullitt Mustang) and less talk about the “crackles and pops”. Personally, maybe it’s just me, but I feel a lot of enthusiasts care way too much about the aural experience. I care more about performance even if the vehicle is a quiet EV.
@851995STARGATE
@851995STARGATE 2 жыл бұрын
I think the crackle and pop thing is getting a little old now too every manufacturer is dialing in overrun to give it that off throttle crackle and pop.
@MrMegatron85
@MrMegatron85 2 жыл бұрын
Love the brown interior
@LifebyDesign
@LifebyDesign 2 жыл бұрын
Idrive is literally so much better than anything toyota offers, kinda think you're trippin on that one
@Taylr692b
@Taylr692b 2 жыл бұрын
Where the hell are you getting it for 53?
@tivo45
@tivo45 2 жыл бұрын
I need a Sienna but I want a Supra
@rembo183
@rembo183 2 жыл бұрын
Is this more fun than your Bullitt?
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on what your definition of fun is. It definitely is sportier than the Bullitt and has better handling. Acceleration-wise they're pretty equal, but the Bullitt has more wheelspin which can make it more exciting. All things considered I'd say that yeah it's probably a little more fun than the Bullitt. The gearing is definitely better than the Bullitt because it's shorter.
@Deuce_Dufresne
@Deuce_Dufresne Жыл бұрын
I’d absolutely take this over a Nissan
@topshelf30
@topshelf30 2 жыл бұрын
now they gave you manual people still complain lol. Just buy a KiA
@badbeatking80
@badbeatking80 2 жыл бұрын
I would be concerned Toyota will launch a redesign soon.
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 2 жыл бұрын
They need to turn off the pumped in, amplified engine noise
@phillipwallace2214
@phillipwallace2214 2 жыл бұрын
God knows you can never have enough cup holders?
@aaronanderson9534
@aaronanderson9534 2 жыл бұрын
I’d rather have a manual m240/340i
@rembo183
@rembo183 2 жыл бұрын
Even a manual in the new BMW 230i coupe would be great!
@purito84
@purito84 2 жыл бұрын
With that said,.....Carwow got 3.0 0-60 at elevation so you guys better get your shit together
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