Another great review, thanks for giving us such a detailed look. Was very excited to see you picked one of these up as I mentioned it on your review of the Class 800 - I'll definitely be getting both when I can, being able to learn the proper details of the models from your reviews before forking out that much on them is a great help! Thanks
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Simeon, glad the reviews are being of use.
@Mapplewell_Park Жыл бұрын
Great review. Have wanted one of these for ages. But just couldn’t justify the spend having 2 kids and in current times!! Managed to get one pre owned from Hattons for £134 in Regional railways……… says pre owned but has never been run. So great bargin 👍
@EuviRail Жыл бұрын
Thanks Richie and well done on on grabbing a bargain there. Hattons pre-owned are well worth keeping an eye on.
@brianfearn4246 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fabulous review. The motor and driving mechanism looks very similar to the Bachmann 108 which as you mentioned can be a bit fiddly when refitting the tiny drive shaft..
@EuviRail Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian
@russellbenton29872 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are very considered and I think fair . Good video .
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Russell
@HamStrains2 жыл бұрын
The lights in the cab wouldn't be on other than during crew change. The cab lights go off while you're moving as they limit what you can see out of the cab in the dark. So no cab lights is really very good detail in reality. But the gamer light modellers wont be fans
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Since there is no crew on this model I guess there was need for a cab light anyway!
@stephenchambers59002 жыл бұрын
Another good review and very fair comments. I will take a look at the Kernow exclusives. I’m always loathed to get GWR liveries having been one of their commuters for years who could not stand their service and disdain for the fare payers
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stephen. Sorry to hear the service was so poor. The fares aren't exactly cheap either.
@alanrobertson97902 жыл бұрын
150 is a good model of a widespread DMU. I like the fact that both cars are electrically connected making shuttle operation easier. One beef I have, but not especially with you as its a common comment, is people who do not like a visible motor block. Twenty years ago big visible motors were the norm but with the comments small invisible motors were introduced. The drawback is that small motors are not mechanically robust. The old 158 was much tougher than the new 158 where I had to replace both motors on one model. Give me big motors any time.
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alan, I had heard murmurings regarding the 158 motor alright which you seem to be confirming. My issue with the 150 is that the space occupied by the motor and gearing is about as bad as it could be. Even with the same motor they could have designed a more compact drive system which would still have been visible of course but not as bad as what we have which consumes 40%+ of the power car. I'm definitely happier with a more reliable design. Would be interesting to see what EFE Rail have implemented for their tube stock and how this holds up.
@alanrobertson97902 жыл бұрын
@@EuviRail In the old 158 they had a centrally positioned motor and 2 flywheels with gear trains to each the bogies. That's as bad as it could be! The windows were smoky. So same motor as you might get in a Class 45 pulling 2 or 3 carriages. Superb performance. If you've got hills, I haven't, or need to go on ebay that is the one to go for. We really need our DMUs to have guards compartments, like the old DMUs then you can hide the 150 arrangement. The tendency over the last twenty years has been to get very expensive models with detail to spread over the track. Modellers complain about this in the comments but all the reviewers on youtube or the modelling press want it this way. When did a reviewer ever say they wanted simpler, cheaper more reliable models. Never. Don't worry I recognise I'm fighting a lost cause.
@Curlypawz2 жыл бұрын
A very fair and balanced review. I do like the model and I bought one of the Sprinter versions. It is true that the big motor block is less than ideal, but if you can ignore it then the rest of the model is very nicely done. Funnily enough the older Bachmann Class 105 doesn't make it as prominent. I didn't realise that some other versions came with passengers fitted, it would have been nice to see them in all the models (or at least the sound fitted ones which are pretty expensive to start with).
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comments. I'm scratching my head over the passenger thing as well (and no driver of course). The sound models with an RRP over £400 should definitely have included them.
@sapphirejunction89932 жыл бұрын
Very good review and was looking to get the Northern version but not going to pay £250 at the retailers for this model, if the Northern one ever comes down to about £180 - £200 then yes will get it.
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yeah, I think that's where a lot people's heads are at. If these are shifting in the next 6-9 mths then you'll likely get your wish.
@TrainBusinfo2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis
@MistaMatthews2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review! Thanks!
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mista, glad you like it.
@andykopgod2 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel, its brilliant, as im getting back into the hobby its valuable to know what im buying and whether its worth it 👍
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew
@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars2 жыл бұрын
Nice passenger car.CHEERS FROM OVER SEAS 🌊
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for dropping by 👍
@dwaynejohnson48922 жыл бұрын
Great video my man! 😁 thought about doing the hush hush?
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dwayne. No, the Hush, Hush isn't on my shopping list and after looking at the Sams Trains review I'm kinda glad. I've gone instead for the new Flying Scotsman with steam though I could be waiting a while.
@SussexHistory2 жыл бұрын
Bachmann had intended to produce this model with an underfloor motor as used on the EFE underground train. However, I think you are lucky they did not do this! Although an underfloor motor is less intrusive than the motor they have used, that would have had too little power. It seems bizarre to fit passengers, but not a driver. But maybe this model depicts a train waiting for the driver to come from the mess room to take the train out? Nice green liveried GWR finish, good if you model that region. Thanks for uploading a thoughtful and carefully made KZbin video!
@grah84mck2 жыл бұрын
Nice review as per. Got the fgw one from kernow, Santa brought me the BR provincial one.
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Excellent 👍
@grah84mck2 жыл бұрын
@@EuviRail did you get your class800?
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
@@grah84mckHi Graham, Oh yes, I'm reviewing it right now - there's good and bad. Watch this space ....
@grah84mck2 жыл бұрын
@@EuviRail only problem I have is the light bleed but as I don’t run any trains in dark in the loft as it a health and safety nightmare and the amount of paperwork my partner would have to sign off would be too much. Lol.
@petertate57412 жыл бұрын
Lovely looking model but that motor intrusion !! Too expensive even with fitted passengers. My biggest issue would be how can you fit them but no driver?? Great review again buddy ,when we hearing your views on the Hornby hike ! ATB.👍
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter. Yeah, I can't fathom how they missed the driver. I am doing a video on my thoughts arising from the series Hornby A Model World and the Hornby 2022 Launch. I'll cover pricing (and a lot more) in that so watch this space....
@HamStrains2 жыл бұрын
The issue with a driver in double ended locos or units, which end is thr "right" end for the driver to go in? 50% of customers will be unhappy with it no matter what, this way 100% of customers can choose which end they put the driver in if indeed they put one in at all.
@Rule1ModelRailways2 жыл бұрын
I really like the new one, but can not justify the price compared to the Kernow one I already have.
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can fully understand. It's probably £40-£50 overpriced.
@WWIIREBEL2 жыл бұрын
I feel that bachmann should try using either a verticle can motor or an "in-floor" motor bogey, much like or similar to the 'black beetle " drives when it comes to anything like these dmu's or other mass/commuter transit trains.
@ferguskenny45782 жыл бұрын
Very expensive, considering there is no sound. I'm more N Scale, and you can get excellent locos, with sound and great detail for similar or lower priced.
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
100% Fergus. N Scale has a lot going for it alright including the whole space aspect.
@ChapelEndJunctionUK2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always , I have an issue with the lighting in the none motor car . The lights are ok when stationary but flicker when moving , wonder if this could be connection bracket ?
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, I believe it could well be as my lighting problem was an intermittent one and I could see this problem being replicated by others. Looks like you''ll be taking the body off so. Just 3 screws, it's not too fiddly.
@WMeridian2 жыл бұрын
can you do a big running session with all the GWR trains, personally I love GWR but I like on the MML so I don't get to see any GWR trains 😥
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
It's on the ToDo list when I make progress on the layout expansion. I only have two DCC circuits at present and I'd really want to have at least 3 in operation and ideally 4 so that I could run the whole gamut. Due to get new windows in the house this year which is going to delay the expansion plans somewhat. Builders and layouts don't mix well!
@WMeridian2 жыл бұрын
@@EuviRail you really have your reasons wow, and you might expand the layout in the future!! But how would you do that as you have ballasted. Could you unballast? I not very technical with model railway so I'll leave that up to you to solve.
@traintastictrains36322 жыл бұрын
Great video as always!! I actually have the same lighting issue with my Northern 150/2 and I emailed Kernow who I bought it from about the issue and they said I could have a go at fixing it myself but if unsuccessful, send it back to them. I had an initial look at it but didn’t know I could dismantle the support posts, how did you do that, are they easily removable?? Thanks a million! Oisín
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Hi Oisin, I'd need to re-open the model to check this out. I'm in the middle of working through a couple of videos so I'll check into it after that.
@paulc95882 жыл бұрын
You are right to draw attention to the poor value for money. The hamfisted motor block arangement is not acceptable at this price point. Reminds me of my old Hornby ex-Dapol WYPTE Sprinter from 20+ years ago, which was acceptable given the standards of the day and relatively low price. No driver is also a silly omission. The only versions of this I would even consider are the more favourably priced Kernow ones.
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@fredashay2 жыл бұрын
Do you know if it is possible to remove the body shell?
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I had to do this to fix a lighting problem. Check the service sheet for the screws you need to open and the tabs you need to ease out to release the body from the chassis.
@Olivers-trains2 жыл бұрын
my lighting in the power car doesn't work
@EuviRail2 жыл бұрын
I have to suspect a similar issue to what I had so it would be worth removing the body and checking out those contact strips that run from floor to ceiling as I highlighted.
@Olivers-trains2 жыл бұрын
@@EuviRail I will try to do that at some point.
@likklej82 жыл бұрын
Even more blooming OO scale stuff being an N gauge modeller is like model railway poor relation. Come on manufacturing let’s have more GWR Southern and even pre grouping steam models. Yes I know tooling for model steam locomotives in N gauge is harder than 00 and 0.
@presidentxd2 жыл бұрын
Way too expensive.out of most peoples price range.