Review | Dune: War For Arrakis | CMON | The Players' Aid

[@robertphillips4407]

Also glad to see you take a broader view that a wargame isn’t limited to hexes and cardboard counters, and involving the Russian front in WW2, like too many grognards whine

[@ThePlayersAid]

Hobby definitions are seemingly pointless and serve only to cause arguments, but for me (Alexander) a Wargame is where the primary goal of the game is some form of military conquest. That can include area control, dudes on a map, hex and counter and many other formats. Those sub formats are more tight definitions but when grogs say wargaming is also a narrow definition its seems ignorant.

[@WatchItPlayed]

You have my interest! Sounds like a lot of fun.

[@crokinoledk]

Thank you Gentlemen for the upload. I’ve finished 2 sessions of the game, and I’m 100% glad with my purchase so far. When you take a closer look at the promoting of the game, you can have a feeling like someone tried to make a good PR for the game calling it Star Wars Rebellion and War of the Ring killer. I unfortunately noticed it provoked many of the staunch fans of both games on plethora of forums to become very nitpicky about Dune: WfR (it’s too streamlined, not deep enough, cards options are too much reduced, etc.). Through such approach - sitting in our trenches, being afraid that our favorite could lose the crown of the best game ever, we simply miss a basic thing - a joy from the game.

[@branboom3342]

I just played my first game yesterday. The basic mechanisms of D:WfA are cool but I loved driving the narrative through playing planning cards and accomplishing the Prescience objectives. One of the most thematic and cinematic board gaming experiences I've had, especially accompanied by the epic Hans Zimmer soundtrack 😄

[@bibleboardgames]

Great video guys, thanks! I love War of the Ring but getting it to the table is harder because of the time and complexity. I felt the designers of Dune really did a great job streamlining that system for Dune and making it feel different and unique for the Dune theme. I still like LOTR theme a bit more, but I agree I like the streamlined system here more in Dune. If they could make a 2.5 rulebook for WOTR so I can keep my painted minis with a streamlined version, it would remain my #1 EPIC.

[@PaulMB40]

Stumbled upon you guys, and glad i did. So refreshing to discover a natural, informed, discusion/deconstruction. Like sitting around a table with friends in a post-game discussion. Tired of bombastic channels that think they're competing with the WWE.

[@ThePlayersAid]

Thanks for the kind words, and for reference, that's exactly what we do, just hang out and play game and chat about them [=

[@JamesOrr1987]

Great video, really need to get my copy played!

[@rossljensen]

Played yesterday for the first time, and it's probably in my top 2 epic games. Super amazing gaming experience.

[@brmoogma]

nice conversation...very helpful!

[@Caratacus1]

Makes me chuckle that you might get flak for this 'not being a wargame' when it's literally in the title and the war is the entire context of it all. I love hex-and-counters but it's nice to see something else too.

[@raygun6271]

Another great video! I don't own a Dune game as of yet, but this may be the one.

[@simonb4689]

It's amazing

[@raygun6271]

@@simonb4689 Happy to say that I now own this game and yes , it is amazing!!

[@simonb4689]

@@raygun6271 get the playmat when you get the expansion, it's a must imo

[@wolfdog]

I agree. I like WoTR, but I would probably pick this one. Played 3 times so far, all close games. We have it down to just over 2 hrs now.

[@ExampleOfPlay]

Nice video! Looks really fun, just need someone to play it with haha

[@theshepard22]

Solo works though right??!

[@gbdomingo]

Forums say that its difficult or impossible to win as atriedes. Agree?

[@JM16714]

War of the ring takes a lot of reps to get down to 3 hours. I have done it. Early games were closer to 6 hours because the rules are ROUGH My point being this game is obvious less complex.

[@LegioVIII]

I never played war of the ring longer as 3 Hours 😳

[@aalever]

My partner and I have played 8 times now. I've only played Atreides and my partner, Harkonnen (we're trying to master each side). So far it's H-4, A-4 - so pretty well balanced! It's my favourite area control game right now. I'd also say that the thing I really like about the combat dice is that each side is either a defend, a hit, or a leader ability - which means you can never throw a fistful of misses. The only time a die can "miss" is if you throw a leader ability and have no leaders in your legion, but that's on you for taking that risk with your legion composition.

[@simonb4689]

It's not that balanced. Harks have the upper hand by far. Probably 80-90% in good hands.

[@aalever]

@@simonb4689 We've found that's definitely true in the early-mid game, but if you've done things right as Atreides then the late game - getting those last few sietches - can be hard for the Harks. Atreides then have only a handful of sietches to defend, have the upper hand on sietch defence, and can pile those minis up like there's no tomorrow - and that's not to mention all the sandworms raining down hell. So as the Atriedes, you just have to focus on slowing the Harks down in those early stages, whilst getting some prescience, so that you can make the game very hard for Harks in the long run... And killing Feyd on sight.. that guy is lethal, because with an ornithopter, he can pincer three sietches, ready for a surprise attack with two hits and a defend on any one of them.

[@simonb4689]

@@aalever you're just playing hark wrong. But they just made an official rules tweak that will fix the most dominant hark strategy (ignore spice) that will bring it closer to 55/45. Can't wait to try it

[@aalever]

@@simonb4689 It does seem harder to win as Atreides, that much is for sure. We're playing again tonight - what's the rule tweak? I'd like to try it. [Edit: found the post on BGG. One is the removal of the 1 imperial ban limit (great), the second doesn't seem to be announced.

[@brmoogma]

17:20...you mean round? Only one or two attacs per round?

[@ThePlayersAid]

yeah, a round!

[@dankone1289]

Looks like this video is on the the Gamefound campaign for the new Dune expansion, along with the base game.

[@LegioVIII]

Dune is awesome.. i really like it… played in 2 hours and really close to the story with the sandworms

[@simonb4689]

Best game of the year

[@GrandPa_BBQer_Game_Cat]

I know it's only a board game, but are you going to paint the Mini's?

[@ThePlayersAid]

No. But only because I have so many other painting projects I need to complete. They're also a smaller size so it's difficult to reuse them in any other different system, so the time input seems even less worth it.

[@GrandPa_BBQer_Game_Cat]

@@ThePlayersAid Fair enough, I paint based on plays likely to get. 👍

[@ThymeKeeper]

Serious non-buyer's remorse on this one. Too many games coming in to go for it now, but hopefully I will run across a game in need of a player at some point :).

[@RichardArpin]

They just announced they're doing another expansion and another printing on gamefound!

[@henriwhitehead]

Great video!

[@thediminutivesoldier]

great video! I got the kickstarter edition but have yet to play! I got Burning Banners too at same time and have BEEN LOVING that! That will be my next video! Like your videos. I subbed!

[@ThePlayersAid]

We're desperate to play Burning Banners!

[@thediminutivesoldier]

@@ThePlayersAid It is truly incredible.

[@pastuh]

SEGA game is best

[@holybananagames733]

A review after one game? Quality content...

[@ThePlayersAid]

Agreed, but we've also played it half a dozen times and my opinions haven't changed.

[@theRealA.B.Q.]

Ignore this comment guys, we got haters