Review: Jura E8 Automatic Coffee Machine

Review of the Jura E8 Automatic Coffee Machine. This convenient bean to cup automatic machine makes coffee, espresso, cappuccino and more from whole bean coffee ground fresh for each cup. Learn how the machine operates including programming options and optional accessories like Smart Connect which gives users full control of the machine through Jura's J.O.E. app using a smartphone or tablet. See the machine in action as it makes a flat white, latte macchiato, espresso, and coffee. The E8 is available in chrome or piano black colors.
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[@taggali]

Fabulous product demo and review! Just got the E8 for Christmas and this was very helpful in getting acquainted with the machine. We're having so much fun trying all the coffee options. Love my Jura E8!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Lisa, Thanks for the kind comment and glad to help! Maybe it's just me and you (probably not) but super-auto bean to cup coffee, espresso and milk based espresso beverages with push button convenience is a life changing experience! Marc

[@mareikekania]

Just bought this machine through your site! Cant wait to try it out!

[@sengchio1]

Love my Jura E8. This video was great - it taught me all I needed to know to make my drinks. thank you.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Eric, You are welcome and thanks for your comment! Marc

[@masrisyal8714]

thank you for a great product demo i'm looking for my first super automatic espresso machine, since i always using filtered v60 to make my cup of coffe the demo showed most of the essential part that i need to know regarding the product

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Mas, You are welcome for the demo. Glad you came away from watching learning what you needed! Marc

[@2662Mia]

Best product demo ever. Thanks!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi 2, Thanks for the kind comment - Do my best to have the most detailed product reviews! Marc

[@karamia7026]

This machine makes the DOPEST coffee! Better than any barista I've been to cause it's made MY way, right away! Too pricey for my blood, but blessed my boss has one for our office! So I get to drink the BEST 5 days a week! Get your grind on!

[@susanbrown3438]

Thank you for this great review, It has helped me make my decision about buying this coffee machine

[@SimonLeBonbonbon]

Thank you for this great review!!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Simon, You are welcome and thank you for the comment! Marc

[@BsOnK1969]

Yes! Keep them coming

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi B, Thanks for the comment. Will do! Marc

[@alexperofamily]

Great Demo of the Jura coffee , I have the F7 for about 7 years made just over 20000 cups yes 20000 cups not one error I just love it.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Alex, Thanks a whole latte for sharing experience with your Jura! Feed machines with good water and/or use a water filter and do regular maintenance and these machines are very dependable! We get regular reports from customers of 15,000+ brew cycles with no problems from Jura and Gaggia machines. Marc

[@chykcha]

My F7 lasted me 22,343 shots. Sadly, it’s no longer with us 😢 Bought S8, but still trying to make my mind about it.

[@BruceClifford]

I love the Jura E8 - just got it in piano white

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Bruce, That's awesome - thanks for sharing! I think the Piano White is a great look. Marc

[@mikel.5536]

Same here. Love the white look. So fresh and so clean clean. Props to Costco!!! (with rebate $1600) 👍🏻

[@meghanoreily8269]

Your videos are the best. Thank you so much for all of the explanations. :-) Just got the Jura E 8 yesterday.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Meghan, Marc here from Whole Latte Love... You are welcome and thank you for taking a moment to leave a comment. Enjoy your new machine!

[@chefkok1971]

I live in the UK. For weeks I've been looking for a new machine. Now have a philips. Just bought the Jura E8 and will hopefully be delivered tomorrow. This is why I come out on your youtube. Because, of course, I want to know everything about the E8. You have a fun way and positive way of telling and demonstrating. Thank you very much. Can't wait until tomorrow and start using my new machine. I too look forward to the app. But don't see these in the online manual. So I'm really curious how it's going to work Thanks

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Peter, Missed your comment last week. Hopefully you have received and are enjoying you E8 by now. And thank you for the kind comments regarding my demonstration style! Marc

[@chefkok1971]

@@Wholelattelovepage No i get him today. Funny i was reading my own tekst back. But autocorrect translation made my country from the netherlands to the UK wahaha. But i Live in de Netherlands hahaha. But i can't wait for the machine. also because it's a birtday gift from my self to me.

[@Filtrum-]

Excellent video as always! I would love to now what kind af glass you were using. Thanks a lot for all the information you are sharing.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Fredrik, Thanks for the comment and question. Used a bunch of glasses in the video. If looking for the dual walled insulated glasses you can find them here: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/cups-and-saucers?_=pf&pf_v_brand=Bodum Marc

[@germinator81]

My filter coffee machine just crapped out today and we're looking at getting an upgrade. You are a making a great argument for the E8 as my first automatic!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Pat, Thanks for the comment! Bean to cup automatics are so convenient. Marc

[@akkarodia9745]

just bought a used one a week ago. about 2.5 years old. machine was serviced. upgraded from a nespresso capsule machine. I am in love. I will honestly not need or buy another machine ever.

[@germinator81]

@@akkarodia9745 great to hear!!!

[@mguerramd]

The Claris and Clearyl filters are an ingenious combination of a charcoal water filter and a single use water softener. If you cut one open you will find about 50% water softener resin beads and 50% activated charcoal granules. The resin beads remove the calcium and the charcoal does the chemical and contaminant filtering. They do a fabulous job of preventing calcification scale, as well as cleaning up the water. I stick with Jura machines 100% because of this and have several, you can't go wrong. Occasionally you need to tear them down and overhaul the brew group, install a new membrane pressure regulator, and change out the grinder burrs. There's plenty of videos here on youtube. It's an easy afternoons work, just brew up an espresso or coffee to get you started!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey m, Thanks for the comment. Use the filter as recommended and you never have to descale a Jura machine! Marc

[@kthame]

This is awesome!!!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Kathleen, Thanks for the comment! Marc

[@pallavmishra]

Got a Jura E8 refurbished for $1500. I think it is a good deal.

[@vedrannurkic6187]

Hi! Great video, very useful! May I ask you if the E8 worth the ~$700 CAD difference vs the E6. I love the taste of a good cup of coffee or espresso, I drink maybe 3-4 cups per day. I don’t drink as much cappuccino since I have a basic coffee maker and cappuccinos are quite expensive at places near me. I consider myself as a coffee lover but not a coffee expert.

[@joshs4016]

Great review, Marc! I'm looking to purchase my first Super Automatic machine and give up my capsules. I've narrowed in on the Jura E8 but my only concern is the temperature of the milk. Does the milk get hot enough (within your recommended range) for a proper milk-based coffee drink? Also, I enjoy Americano's---does the water get hot enough to make an Americano. Last question, for some milk based drinks (i think a flat white), it adds steamed milk and finely foamed milk. The Z6 does this automatically. Can the E8 do it as well, or do you have to manually adjust the milk frother during the process of making the drink? Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, again!

[@sameralsidawi9747]

Great review as always. This channel has really helped me understand the differences between the different brands as I try to make up my mind on what machine to invest in. The Jura E8 is definitely one of the contenders. I haven’t seen any reviews or mention in your channel of the saeco Xelsis. It seems to be a neat machine with a very intuitive interface. I’m a little worried about the maximum sprout height in this Jura machine as it won’t fit larger mugs. Any thoughts on the Saeco Xelsis versus this Jura E8?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Samer, Thanks for your comments and questions - always happy to help! We no longer carry the Xelsis but we do have the Gaggia Babila which is essentially the same machine as the Xelsis. Here's a link to a side by side comparison of the Jura E8 and the Gaggia Babila: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=MjMxMDgwMjIxMDg3MCwxNTQ1OTcyODQyNTU1 I'll note that E8 cup clearance under the milk spout is 6.25 inches. When making a milk drink on the E8 espresso is delivered from a spout with that clearance as well. Clearance under the E8 coffee only spouts (center of machine) is 4.25 inches. Big differences in the machines: Babila uses a self-cleaning carafe for milk drinks. Push the spout over after use and steam is routed through milk components automatically so the carafe is ready to go back in the fridge for next time. The E8 uses a milk tube system which can be dropped in any milk source or attached to accessory milk container products. Cleaning that is a bit more involved. Hope that helps! Marc

[@valmachado7585]

Thank you

[@Wholelattelovepage]

You're welcome! Marc

[@user-gx6hm2jk9p]

HI there -do you have a video for this machine for the newer model? Our E8 does not have the names of the drinks on the menu screen Thanks - you do a really great job with these

[@warrenmckenzie4451]

Hi Marc, I have a new E8 with a milk system and have been playing with the various options. I can't seem to find a way to create my own special drink using milk. When I select Special Coffee on the machine or the app it just seems to be coffee only. So if I want to make a variant on a flat white (like a cortado) I can't do it. Am I missing something. The Jura docs got me up and running but they are very basic.

[@rrijecanka]

I want to buy this machine, I like Jura E8, wondering if I’m going to get this black box for milk??

[@mikedeluca3382]

Hi Marc, just received my E8 and its great! Thanks for the informative review. Question, if you load in ground coffee while have whole beans in the hopper, what will the E8 give you?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Mike, You are welcome and thanks for sharing your initial impressions of the E8! When you load pre-ground coffee the machine will use that for whatever drink you select automatically. Marc

[@pwlaird]

Thanks for all the great info. Do you see any harm running sweetened milk products (such as white chocolate sauce mixed with some milk) through the frothing system to blend it together nicely? I’m wanting to make a white chocolate macchiato.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi PL, It's not something I've tried but it may work. Likely not recommended by Jura but IMO there's no harm in trying. Worst case it clogs up the frothing device but it's very cleanable. Marc

[@melissa4455]

Is this version (Gen 2) a good machine to buy compared to the new version, gen 3? How old is the gen 2 version?

[@musomaster9027]

Hey there I’m keen of changing from my Lelit to a Jura purely for convenience. What’s the extraction like for espresso in a Jura compared with manual espresso machines? The espresso looked like it was running a little quick in my opinion! But I don’t have scales so I don’t know. Thanks I appreciate your help!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi MM, Thanks for the question. Timing shots in an automatic is not a thing. Brewing process is the essentially the same but differs due to design of brewing chamber in automatic machines. It's smaller and narrower. Marc

[@petervandort7531]

Hi Mark, can you please explain & tell me how the fine tune coffee bean grind section on top of the unit works, next to tablet drop-in. When would one use that feature? Thank you. I own the E8 non G2 version.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Peter, I sure can! In general if doing shorter drinks like espresso tend toward the finer grind settings. For longer coffees tend toward the coarser settings. If doing a mix of long and short compromise with a setting in the middle. Whenever I start out with a new super-automatic machine I always set to the finest grind setting, highest strength and temperature settings. I then back off on grind and strength settings if needed - say if I was detecting bitter flavors. Hope that helps! Marc

[@lewismatthews8165]

Thanks for the video. I bought this machine but it came only with the regular milk spout (not the one with the optional switch to heated milk only). Would you recommend upgrading? It does seem the milk drinks are very frothy some times.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Lewis, Thanks for the question. Was honestly unaware the machine ever sold without the ability. Not sure it would be upgrade-able. Best bet is to contact Jura support directly for advisement: us.jura.com/en/customer-care/hotline-and-customer-service Marc

[@BruceClifford]

Hi Marc - I am writing in this older video since this is the amazing unit I purchased. For the PEP I know I can click Espresso twice and the E8 will brew 2 shots of espresso using 1 grind cycle. If I use the Doppio setting it will grind 2 separate shots as an example 3 oz of espresso it will grind 2 shots at 1.5 oz each. I assume based on your recent review of the Gaggia machines if I use the Doppio setting for 2 shots I am getting a better extraction? Thank you.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Bruce, You are correct. 2 grind cycles will give you a much better shot! Marc

[@mgarwatoski]

I have a Gaggia Classic which I’ve done many upgrades to but I’m looking to get something new. How do the espresso shots from the Jura machines compare to what I’m used to with my Jura but also from a semi-auto in the same price range as the E8? I expect that I’d be giving up something for the convenience package but just how much is that?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Mark, Thanks for the question. Quality difference is hard to quantify. If one is skilled at semi-auto then you can make better shots with the Classic. Jura super-autos and others are about the convenience and consistency. You give up some fine-tuning of extractions. With Jura's PEP extraction you get a very good espresso and it's quick and easy. Marc

[@adrianvanbeuningen6045]

Hi Marc, which setting dot do you have the grinder on to get the best outcome for your coffee? I just ordered from you the one you recommend in the video, thank you

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Adrian, Thanks for the question and your patronage! I always start at the finest grind setting and back off from there if needed. It's best to set that prior to putting beans in the hopper. No problem if you change grind setting after adding beans but the grinder should be running when adjusting to finer grind settings. Also I always start with highest temperature and coffee strength settings and back off on those as needed. Hope that helps and enjoy your new machine! Marc

[@christiansmith7568]

Love Thank you for your quick response. I was using 2% milk - should I be using whole fat for all milk product drinks - I am fairly new to anything not straight coffee. I get good froth, I have only had the machine for 4 days now although have had allot of company and made maybe 40 drinks. I rinse the coffee and milk system everyday. Also, should the grinder be set to the finest setting for all coffee drinks (I like strong coffee). Cheers

[@Wholelattelovepage]

No problem. You do not have to use whole milk. I just prefer its texture/creaminess. I’ve never had an issue getting the layers. You could try setting froth lever for steamed milk first then switch to a froth. If you like it strong go for a finer setting.

[@mikel.5536]

Hell yeah!🤙🏼 That is the secret right there, this was driving me crazy. Do steamed milk (lever down) for a bit, then switch to frothed milk (lever up) for the remainder of the drink process. It will give you good layers, just like Mark did in this video :)

[@HIGHLANDER_ONLY_ONE]

Since we got the Jura 8e, we don't like café bought coffees anymore. Oh myyy, we've become coffee snobs!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Highlander, What's snobby about having better coffee that's more convenient and far lower cost per cup?

[@HiddenGhost00]

Hi Marc, if you have the optional wifi added, can you use it to make a coffee from Ed first thing in the morning, or does the machine need to do a rinse cycle when turned on, thus forcing you to get out of bed to switch cups?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi HG, Wouldn't that be nice! Unfortunately the machine must be turned on manually first. Marc

[@MakNebary]

Just got one white piano color from your store damaged. Started returning process, but apparently the Christmas gift will not happen this year :( UPDATE: Whole Latte Love made replacement as soon as possible and the machine is great, and the coffee it makes is amazing

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Nabi, Sorry to hear of the damage. We inspect and over box these machines for shipping. Every once in awhile delivery providers are less than careful.

[@MakNebary]

@@Wholelattelovepage I’ve just got replacement from your store hour ago! The coffee is amazing :)

[@donnareid1474]

We love hot coffee (I have a Jura F8 that just died after 14 yrs….my ONLY complaint was not quite "hot enough" coffee). I'm interested in this E8 because of the "warmed milk" feature. Wondering if you can use "creamer" in the milk container, to warm your creamer. I have a better half who loves a lot of cream in his coffee, and in doing so, it cools the coffee down.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Donna, Thanks for the question. You can try creamer in the coffee. Depends on brand and type. Some may work while others may be too thick for proper operation. Marc

[@donnareid1474]

@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc! I ordered this machine from Whole Latte Love on Saturday!! Can't wait ! My old Jura (Impressa F8) lasted 14 yrs!! I will let you know!

[@blackcoalboy]

Hi Great videos, Iam going to get this machine but never had a Coffey machine of any kind before but you’ve convinced me I need one, But please tell me what’s the name of the app called (IOS) Thanks

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Dennis, Thanks for the question. Here's a link to the app store for Jura's J.O.E. app: apps.apple.com/us/app/j-o-e/id1364370646 Also available in Google Play. JOE stand for: Jura Operating Experience. Marc

[@Trojansusmc]

Thanks Mark! What’s the difference between the J80 and E8? Don’t really find any content relating to the J80

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Alex, Thanks for the question. Here's a link to a side by side comparison of those machines: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=MTU0NTk1OTUwNTk3OSwyMjk5NTI0NDgxMDc4 The E8 has Jura's updated fine foam milk frother is one major difference. Marc

[@cassietrist1]

Hi Marc, Great video! Any idea why Jura changed the frother from the dial version on the 2018 E8 to the lever version shown above? Is one better than the other?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Matthew, Thanks for the comment and question. The lever version is their new Fine Foam Frother. IMO it's nicer than the dial operated frother. Feels more solid. Not shown (or mentioned) in the video our product specialist did some testing and by combining milk from the 2 frothing positions got a froth quality with which he was able to pour latte art. Marc

[@cassietrist1]

@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc!

[@dagmarbauck5278]

So everything is fine, the coffee is great BUT I HOPE they update their remote app again so that this make sense again!

[@MakNebary]

What is wrong with that app?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi D, What's going on? Have you contacted Jura support?

[@songbird857]

Looking into this as an upgrade for my gaggia classic pro. Can the Jura froth almond milk? Or is that just not possible in a super automatic?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi s, Thanks for the question. It should froth almond milk. As you are likely aware there are many different types of almond milk and different brands. My guess is some will work better than others. Marc

[@Trojansusmc]

Does it auto clean after using the mill system? If not what type of cleaning does it do automatically other than the thorough one that takes 20 minutes or so

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi AR, Out of there office at the moment But I believe it does have a quick rinse of the milk system which can be set to run automatically 10 minutes or so after the last milk drink or run on demand. Marc

[@pwlaird]

I am trying to determine how much caffeine is being consumed with the milk drinks. For a flat white or latte etc after selecting the strength and the time of the milk, you can select the ounces of espresso and the default on my machine is 3 ounces. So would it be true that the default is 3 ounces (or 3 shots) of espresso? I’ve noticed that even if I increase it to 4.5 ounces that when emptying the coffee grounds that there is only 1 little hockey puck shaped thing of coffee grounds, so it appears like it only used a single serving of coffee grounds. Would 4.5 ounces equate 4.5 shots or espresso or would it be less? Thanks very much.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Philip, Thanks for a great question. No matter how much brew water is used the amount of coffee will be the same. You can change the amount of coffee using the strength setting. Max coffee dose on most Jura machine is ~14g. You'll get that much when at the highest strength setting. The amount of caffeine in a beverage depends on a number of variables like brew water contact time, type of coffee and roast level of coffee. More contact time extracts more caffeine. There's usually more caffeine in Robusta than Arabica coffee. Lighter roasted coffee tends to have more caffeine than darker roast - roasting "cooks" off caffeine. A common misconception is espresso has more caffeine than drip/filter coffee. If one were to use the same whole bean coffee and brew as espresso and drip/filter coffee the drip/filter coffee will have more caffeine than the espresso due to the longer contact time with brew water. Brewing 4.5 ounces does not equate to 4.5 shots. The 4.5 ounces will have more caffeine due to the longer water contact time with the coffee. Hope that helps! Marc

[@connorhaaf1797]

Hey, I am looking at various super automatic machines from jura. The E8 seems like it makes great espresso and long coffee. However, the milk system seems like a pain to maintain. I saw on the jura website that you can remove and swap the frother if it wears out. Then i saw that the older jura steam wands you can order apparently fit. So do you know if i could remove the frother and attach the jura 2 stage bullet tip Nozzle steam wand? I had considered just getting the ena 4 and a separate frother but the max of 10g pucks seems like the longer coffees will be weak. Thanks, your videos are super helpful!

[@connorhaaf1797]

Additionally, for the pressure chamber in Jura machines by the portafilter. Are those parts that deal with the heat and pressure of brewing espresso metal? I cant find any information on that and drinking espresso from heated plastic every day seems like it could be unhealthy in the long term. Thanks again!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Connor, Thanks for the questions. If you want a super-automatic machine with a manual frothing wand take a look at the Gaggia Cadorna Barista Plus: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cadorna-barista-plus-automatic-espresso-machine-architectural-white-marble The Cadorna doses up to 11.5g per brew cycle and you can easily double that up by selecting to make 2 drinks and get a dose of up to 23g using 2 grind and brew cycles. The brewing chambers (brew units) in all super-automatic machines use plastics with a metal plate screen (filter basket). All plastics used in these machine are recognized as food safe in EU and US. Marc

[@tomcepek498]

Can you run just a regular coffee through the milk drink spout without milk? I am concerned that a travel mug will not fit under the coffee spouts.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Tom, It is possible to brew up to 8oz of coffee through the coffee/milk spout combo with the higher cup clearance. You would have to program one of the milk-based espresso beverages on the machine to get the coffee coming out of the higher spouts. The machine will still want to do milk for a minimum set time of 3 seconds. If no milk tube is connected you'll just get steam from the spout. Maybe not the best option but it works. Personally, I'd have a look at a machines like the Gaggia Babila or Accademia. They have enough clearance under the spout for most travel mugs. Also do well switching between regular coffee and espresso beverages as they both have a flow control on the spout which allows for manual control of flow rate. You can restrict for espresso and let it flow faster for regular coffee to avoid over-extraction. If interested you can see the Babila and Accademia in action in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX3Mk4lnmcyqn6c Hope that helps! Marc

[@tomcepek498]

@@Wholelattelovepage Thx - we actually did decide to go with the Accademia - looking forward to it. Shout out to your sales guy Mark! thx

[@1101naomi]

I have a question about the beans you are using. Does the company roast the beans on a certain day and send out? What is their procedure to ensure we get fresh roasted coffee? Thanx!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Naomi, Thanks for the question. I’m using Maromas Orphea: www.wholelattelove.com/products/maromas-orphea-whole-bean-espresso It’s an Italian style bean blend roasted in Italy which gets excellent customer reviews! We import on a regular basis. It’s the type of coffee which does not have to be incredibly fresh to produce excellent results. Marc

[@darylreseigh2111]

One thing I’m not quite understanding...on flat white and latte macchiato, if I want to increase the amount of coffee, is that determined by the amount of ‘water’? Or does that just make it weaker? I want say equivalent to 2 x Espresso shots in there not a single watered down. Or does the ‘strength’ determine the amount of actual coffee it grinds? In the app it’s referred to as ‘amount of water’ on the machine it’s referred to as ‘volume’ thanks!

[@kriyayoga98]

I have the same question.

[@darylreseigh2111]

Ann Hayes I spoke to Jura and they said the strength setting increases the actual amount of coffee. Adding water just makes it weaker but hotter. I’ve found the coffee to be much nicer on the ‘normal’ strength setting. Hope that helps!

[@christiansmith7568]

Hello! When making a Latte Machhiato with my Jura E8 I can't get the layers to separate as defined as yours does. I have set my interval to 20 seconds and have even tried to momentarily switch it from foam to steam milk with the lever. Do you have any suggestions for me to be able to get that defined layering? What grind level do you have your coffee on? Thanks!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hello Christian! Thanks for the question. At that interval you should get some separation. What type of milk are you using? I'm using whole fat. Are you getting a good froth when lever is set to foam position? If not it may need a cleaning. Any milk residue can reduce frothing performance. It helps to use a taller/skinnier glass to get more density layering of the milk. Also have the spout as close as possible to surface of frothed milk when the espresso is added. My grinder is set to its finest grind size position. Hope that helps! Marc

[@christiansmith7568]

@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you for your quick response. I was using 2% milk - should I be using whole fat for all milk product drinks - I am fairly new to anything not straight coffee. I get good froth, I have only had the machine for 4 days now although have had allot of company and made maybe 40 drinks. I rinse the coffee and milk system everyday. Also, should the grinder be set to the finest setting for all coffee drinks (I like strong coffee). Cheers

[@ricardocaravantes2939]

Hello i have other question, when you talk about not using oily grains, what do you mean with that? because as far as i know every good grains when grounded it liberates some oils ? sorry i am a starter here, would be great if you make some videos of tasting coffee and that kind of stuff to learn more :) also for the cappuccinos, i want them to have the layers really defined, but i have tried getting 20sec interval, 10 sec interval, stronger coffee or more soft, what configurations you recommend to get the perfect cappuccino in the machine? (in the classic cappuccino cup)

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Ricardo, First no need to be sorry about anything! Always here to help anyone. When discussing oily beans I'm referring to beans with visible oils on the surface of the bean prior to grinding. I'm not concerned with oils withing the beans. Personally I do not like dark roasted coffee. With those, you are more likely to be tasting the roast (think the typical starbucks style coffee) than the flavor of the bean. It's fairly common practice to over roast poor quality beans to hide their inferior flavor. For a cappuccino on the E8 I'd start with the machines factory preset for milk and espresso volumes. They key to the milk is setting the lever on the frothing component to get the froth quality you want. For classic cappuccino set the lever to produce the airiest froth possible. Other than that I recommend setting the grind size to minimum for best espresso extraction. Hope that helps! Marc

[@donnareid1474]

I just purchased this machine from you guys and am wondering...since they did away with the lever to go from "froth to steamed" milk on the 2022 model, how do I get just "steamed" milk from the frother? Another video mentioned removing the frother, but did not explain how? Is it the "clear" piece at the end of the frothing component?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Donna, Thanks for your patronage and the question. Jura made the change to producing one type of milk from the machine. Not 100% certain on this but believe their research showed the majority of consumers were either only using one type of milk or were confused about the setting. Marc

[@bradbennett3364]

Marc - consider the Jura E8 and Gaggia Cadorna Prestige which do you prefer for overall quality of materials, coffee, features and customer support? Thank you.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Brad, Thanks for the question. If you are in the US customer support is excellent for Jura and Gaggia products. Need help with a Gaggia and it comes directly from Whole Latte Love. Our tech support is staffed by coffee pros. For Jura it's similar through their customer support center based in NJ. Quality of materials is similar between the brands. IMO Gaggia machines like the Cadorna Prestige gets you Jura features like color screens at a better value. What you get with Jura is an upgrade in maintenance. For instance, use an in reservoir water filter in Jura machines as directed and you will never need to descale. Gaggia can use a water filter which significantly increases time between descalings but you will need to do it. The brew units in Gaggia machines are removable. They are not removable in Jura machines. Ability to remove the unit gives some more peace of mind. Coffee quality is similar between the brands. Jura uses a pulse extraction process PEP when making espresso. When making long coffees it does not. That allows for changing between espresso and regular long coffee without worrying too much about changing the grind size to match the beverage. For larger coffees on the Cadorna most will make an Americano which the machines does. No Amerciano on the E8. Cadorna Prestige has a true flat white on the menu made from a double espresso using a coffee dose of up to 23g. Make a double coffee beverage on the Cadorna and it will always use 2 grind cycles. The E8 does not - its max dose is ~14g. Hope that helps! Marc

[@gwyonews459]

Hi do I need a smart connect device(the blue think ) and where to connect? I just bought jura E8 chrome. Thank you in advance

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi AGA, Thanks for the question. The blue device is the Jura Smart Connect. It's optional so you do not have to have one. Installing the Smart Connect allows you to control the machine from a compatible smart phone or tablet using Jura's J.O.E. App. On the E8, the Smart Connect installs underneath the door for the water reservoir towards the back. Here's a link to the Smart Connect with more info on comaptability etc.: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-smart-connect-bluetooth-adapter Hope that helps! Marc

[@arek3392]

Milk systems cleaner fluid 1000ml for how long it will last. Wonder to buy small 250ml bottle or large one's? Thanks.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Arek, Thanks for the question. Each milk cleaning cycle uses ~15ml of cleaner. So 1,000ml cleaner is good for 66 cleaning cycles. 250ml is good for ~16 cleaning cycles. Marc

[@arek3392]

@@Wholelattelovepage Great, will go for the big one then

[@mbrphoto]

Is it possible to re-program the menu to say put a Flat White at the front so I don't have to scroll back

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi m, thanks for the question. Not possible on this machine but is possible on Jura machines with touchscreens. Marc

[@RockBass14]

If you were to choose between this E8 and Gaggia Cadorna Barista Milk, which would it be. I think this looks better, but the Cadorna seems to have almost the same functionality. All that aside, which one produces better espresso and milk based drinks?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Patrick, thanks for the question. Just want to make sure we're talking the same thing... There's a Cadorna Milk with milk fed by tube from a carafe and the Cadorna Barista Plus (may be North America market only) which has a manual steam wand. If referring to the Barista Plus it can make better milk drinks with its manual frothing. But it's a manual process so takes more skill and effort to get better results. But if you have the skill you can go right to latte art quality frothing and also make milk as hot as you like. If you are referring to the Cadorna Milk, it does one type of froth but automatically. The Jura E8 has 2 milk froth levels so you can djust between airier froht and something closer to steamed milk with little to no added air. IMO The Cadorna machines are a tremendous value. More drink features like Americano etc than the Jura and a much lower price. Aesthetics are personal opinion but many due find the look of the Jura machines more appealing. I espresso quality Jura and Gaggia are similar with a key difference. Gaggia does stronger doubles using up to 23g coffee dose for a double. When requesting 2 of any coffee drinks on the gaggia the machine will run two individual grind cyles to make them. The Jura does a single grind cycle with a max coffee dose of 14g. Hope that helps. If you want to explore the Cadorna models here's a video featuring all three variations: kzbin.info/www/bejne/moe0hZyhrZqMpsU Marc

[@blackcoalboy]

Hi Jest bought that same coffee machine, Can I ask you to recommend a good coffee bean to complement the machine Thanks

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Dennis, Thanks for the question. Difficult to answer without knowing your personal preferences. Do stay away from beans with an oily surface sheen (over roasted anyway)! If you like traditional Italian style coffees Lavaza has a good selection they typically run under $10/lb ($20/kg) I'm a big fan of Maromas coffees. Especially their Orphea variety: www.wholelattelove.com/products/maromas-orphea-whole-bean-espresso It's about the same price as Lavazza whole beans. If yoiu have a particular flavor preference if you go here: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/whole-bean-espresso-coffee You can narrow selections and read user reviews to find a suitable bean. Marc

[@smileytow1925]

He is spot on with his coffee choices! We drink milk based espressos, Lazazza Grand med roast ( now packaged as Gran) and marrimossa Ophelia both great choices in my opinion for milk based drinks. ( we’ve been buying our coffee from whole latte love since we bought our first espresso machine, we are now up to a Jura C9 and it’s been working great for us. ( although this machine looks neat!)

[@K.Stroh_]

Hi Marc, Does this make is a solid flat white with micro foam? I was looking at the ENA 8 and it doesn’t make micro foam but this does?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi SD, The ENA 8 does one type of milk froth. The E8 has the lever which switches between steamed milk with very little air and a froth more typical for a cappuccino.

[@TheCodeTinkerer]

The first gen Jura E8 also makes microfoam. It has that silver silky kind of texture. I got the E80 1. gen at home :D. Funny thing is that E8 gen 2 is actually cheaper from new.

[@cassietrist1]

Marc, Is it possible to program a double shot for a flat white? Also, what are the optimal settings on this machine for a flat white including foam settings. Thank you.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Matthew, Thanks for the question. Yes, you can do a double for the flat white. Optimal settings for the flat white depend on your personal preferences but here's what I like: Coffee strength: highest setting, coffee temp: high, coffee amount: 1.5oz/~50ml, milk: 14 seconds with froth lever at 12 o'clock. Set your grinder to finest setting. Hope that helps! Marc

[@cassietrist1]

@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc, certainly does. I have the dial frother on my machine. Would I still used the 12 o'clock setting?

[@vlads5883]

Hello, You're my final chance in achieving the correct answers. I've asked so many people, called so many services and read so many reviews that...I've got tired and still no answer. I'm the owner of a Jura E8 15336 model and there are a few unknowns while using this machine. 1. How many grams of coffee does the machine use for every level of strength? Maximum is 16g, is has 10 level of strength, but what is minimum and does every strength adds an equal amount of coffee to the final puck? 2. What's the water temperature used for brewing? The selection is low, medium, high, but how many degrees does the water have when starting brewing? Does this temperature applies also to the milk or only to the water used for brewing? The milk has the same temperature after frothing in each level of temperature? 3. When making a double espresso is the water divided for every single shot? What about the coffee used? If I set at maximum it will use 16g for every shot or will also divide the amount of coffee and water for each shot? 4. In the description it says that the machine can make double coffee, double macchiato, but there's no selection on the screen for that or it's a wrong description? 5. How many grams of coffee and how many ml of water is used for the espresso shot? Is an espresso shot a normal espresso and has the same quantities like an espresso? 6. What's the difference between a Jura E8 and E8 Touch? What should I check for? I already bought the machine, but I'm wondering what's the difference because the price is also different and the looks are the same. So I don't know what I own. Thank you for your time in providing me the information and answers requested. It will for sure help other users.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Vlad, I'm here to help with your questions! 1. Dose range is 5g to 16g. 1 step in strength setting will add about 1g of ground coffee. 2. Internal brewing temp ranges from ~195 to 205F. Changing between 3 temp setting will be split in that range. Variables like ambient temp, temp of water in reservoir and time since last brew cycle affect internal brewing temp. Temperature setting of coffee brewing does not affect milk temps. 3. According to our Jura expert coffee dose weight is not increased when making a double - just the amount of water. 4. here are the available drink selections on the E8: Ristretto, 2 x Ristretto, Espresso, 2 x Espresso, Espresso doppio, Macchiato, Coffee, 2 x Coffee, Special coffee, 2 x Special coffee, Cappuccino, Latte macchiato, Flat white, Portion of milk, Hot water, Hot water for green tea 5. Amounts of coffee and water used for an espresso are user programmable. Typical single espresso in classic Italian style uses 7g coffee and 30ml brew water. Double is 14g and 60ml brew water. 6. In the US Jura only sells the E8. I'm not familiar with the E8 touch. I checked for E8 Touch in other markets and I'm not turning anything up. Hope that helps! Marc

[@vlads5883]

@@Wholelattelovepage OMG, this was fast! I should have come here for an answer weeks ago. Thank you very much for your fast and complete reply, you're truly a professional! Now maybe there are different types of E8 on the market or different years. My E8 is 2020 European model and has the following: Espresso, Espresso Dopio, Coffee, Caffe Barista (from the recipe used, I've determined this to be Americano), Lungo Barista (Double Americano if this is possible), Macchiato, Cortado, Cappuccino, Flat White, Latte Macchiato, Hot water and Milk foam. Also the frother is fixed, has no possibility to change the froth (no leverage), but I don't necessarily have a problem with this. I'm still waiting for Jura to answer me according to the version I have on the machine, what type is it. Overall a good machine till now. I'll be using if for a small shop. Thanks again for your help! I'll be back if I get "stuck" again.

[@frankponjee6602]

I already have this coffee machine and I'm thinking of switching to real Italian coffee machine most probably the Rocket Cinquantatto DB Touch. Reason for this is that I'm not able to make a REAL Italian espresso taste with the Jura E8. And I'm aiming on the espresso quality like I drink in Italy and nothing less. My expectation is that it should be possible to achieve that with a machine like the Rocket or am I wrong? Is it even possible to make real Italian espresso with a Jura E8 or is it always a matter of compromise when using fully automatic machines? What's your advise regarding real Italian espresso? Any better alternatives than the Rocket Cinquantatto? What kind of grinder? Rocket Faustino? I'm a starter with espresso machines but I'm more or less a perfectionist, so quality is key. Thanks.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi FP, Thanks for the question. Prosumer level machines like the Rocket Cinquantotto are capable of making a better espresso than super-automatics which do compromise a bit on the quality for higher convenience. With the right coffee and skill in using a machine like the Rocket you can make an even better espresso than what you'll get in most bars in Italy. However, espresso from the E8 is very close in quality. I've spent a fair amount of time in Italy and the range in espresso quality is huge so defining a real Italian espresso is difficult. I had wonderful classic Italian style espresso from a back alley bar in Venice and terrible espresso from rest stops on the Autostrada. If you still have the E8 and enjoy the convenience try this to get a better espresso. Set your grinder to it's finest setting, set drink temp to highest setting and espresso strength to highest. Then make a slightly shorter espresso than normal. No more than 30ml/1oz into a pre-heated cup. Beans used a very important. Use a classic Italian style blend like Lavazza Super Crema or similar beans from Illy or something like Filicori Zecchini Espresso Blend. If you do end up going to a semi-automatic machine like the Cinqantotto the Faustino grinder is a good pairing. As for better altrnatives, once you get to the level of prosumer machines with E61group, heat-exchange boilers and PID temp control most are equally capable. The dual boiler Cinquantotto is a high-end machine. I personally have a slight preference for dual boiler machines from Profitec and ECM over the Rocket. Hope that helps! Marc

[@nkay95]

Is the espresso shot set to dosing out a single shot of espresso or double out the box?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Single

[@andigalloway4717]

Hi guys, I wanted to ask a quick question! We are undecided on whether to purchase this Jura E8 or the Jura J6 machine. Which would you recommend? We can’t find a huge amount of info on the major difference!!! Thanks for any help!!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Andi, Thanks for the question. Here's a link to a side by side spec comparison with current pricing for both machines: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=MjMxMDgwMjIxMDg3MCwxNTQ1OTg4NTcxMTk1 My thoughts: They are very similar machines. One key difference, the E8 has Jura's latest Fine Foam Frother. It uses a lever to control milk froth type while the J6 uses a dial control. I prefer the lever. Both machines can flip milk prep order to be appropriate based on the drink being made. The J6 has a what some might consider a more contemporary design. Hope that helps! Marc

[@andigalloway4717]

Whole Latte Love thanks guys👍🏻👍🏻

[@BlackBlt95]

Great review! Got a machine on order, meanwhile you got me interested in the smart connect, got some app questions before I order one: 1. Any limit on how many variations are saved? 2. Are saved recipes stored under the same type or in a custom category or folder? Such as if I customized a cappuccino, is it saved with the standard cappuccino or saved in custom drink section? 3. If it saves in a custom category, can there be more than one custom category - like multiple folders so I cam make a folder for Tom with Tom’s drinks, one for Barb with Barb’s drinks, etc? 4. Can custom drinks be shared if say my wife has a favorite recipe saved in her app, can she share it or airdrop it to my app? 5. Any limit as to how many devices can pair with the smart connect device? We have 2 phones and 2 tablets, can all pair with the device?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Tom, Thanks for the kind comment and questions! Here's a link to Jura's portal for more info on Smart Connect capabilities: us.jura.com/en/homeproducts/accessories/JOE#tabs Some quick answers to your questions based on my use... 1. I do not believe there are limits on number of variations. 2 & 3. Recipes are not saved in folders. You'd get a list of saved drinks and you can give them custom names. So you could do "Tom's Cappuccino", "Barb's Cappuccino" and so on. 4. I do not believe recipes can be airdropped from device to device. 5. Any compatible device running the J.O.E. App can connect/pair with a machine but its limited to one device at a time. If you're in US and would like more detailed info on Smart Connect capabilities the specialist at Jura's customer support hotline should be able to help: us.jura.com/en/customer-care/hotline-and-customer-service Hope that helps! Marc

[@BlackBlt95]

@@Wholelattelovepage thx for quick reply! Going to use machine with your settings suggestions from your video first and see how it goes, but I’m a bit geeky so will probably order the smart connect. In the Jura video, which really doesn’t show too much, but does show a smart watch. So that would be pretty cool to just use my watch to tell Siri to make my morning brew.

[@erikstevengroves]

Hi Marc. Any chance a review of the new Jura Z10 is coming up soon?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Eric, I have this video of the Z10 from Jura's US headquarters! kzbin.info/www/bejne/apvJaqKbrqyYpac Marc

[@lshaps46]

What is the name of the app? You should have but did not mention the name of the app. Otherwise, it was a highly informative review.

[@pwlaird]

Would you mind please giving your suggestion on how to use this machine to best make hot chocolate?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Philip, Use the frothing device to produce heated milk and/or milk froth and stir in chocolate.

[@pwlaird]

Great. Do you find this machine produces sufficiently hot milk for this or does it then need to be microwaved? Thanks much.

[@0ucantstopme034]

What are the "cleaning tablets" made of? Is it hazardous? Are the tablets "flushed" through several rinse cycles? Or should we do that?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi 0, Tablets at full strength like most cleaning agents are labeled as skin and eye irritants. Cleaning cycles run by the machine do include a rinse cycle which flushes. No need for end user to do that. I will confess to running a throwaway shot of espresso after cleaning my Jura machine even though it's not needed. Jura cleaning tablets contain: SODIUM CARBONATE SODIUM CITRATE DISODIUM ADIPATE SODIUM CARBONATE PEROXIDE SODIUM LAURYL SULFATE MAGNESIUM STEARATE COLORANT

[@richardb7093]

3/22/22 Update.. very happy with our E8 EXCEPT for the cost of the filter. Its almost a monthly cost of $19 (price keeps creeping up). This year we’ll be spending almost $228 for filters. For some reason Jura isnt allowing off market manufacturing of the filter for the E8. Something to consider. The flat white is "warm". Not good it should be hot. I noticed that this unit DOES NOT heat plain water hotter than 170F. The expresso temp as it comes out is about 165F. According to all expresso 'how to' the temp for perfect extraction should be 198F-205F. Shouldn't a machine that costs over $1,800 do that? Why didn't this review cover the important aspect of temperature control?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Richard, Thanks for the comments. Not sure how/where you are measuring temp. The 195 - 205F brew temp for espresso (and all coffee brewing methods) is the temperature of water when it contacts coffee. Measuring exit or in cup temps does not represent brew temps. I understand some want their milk drinks hotter however the sweet point of milk is in the 140s. That's the temp well trained baristas froth to for best flavor.

[@devaulf3722]

You are right, the coffee is not hot ! this guy does not a pro review

[@Tsoglani1981]

What is the type 735 E8? Is this it or it has less features? What are the differences between the g2 and 735?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Christos, Thanks for the question. The newer version of the E8 has upgrades to the milk frothing system. You can easily distinguish the newer E8 model by the lever on the milk frothing system as opposed to the dial on the older E8. Beyond that, the newer E8 has more drink options and upgraded grinder. It's available in standard colors or in white like this one: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-e8-white Hope that helps! Marc

[@phatnareeevans4807]

Hi I’m wondering if I can adjust the temperature as my milk foam is not really hot.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi PE, Thanks for the question. Like all super-auto machines milk is heated to it's sweet point in a range of 125-145F. Get too hot and the apparent sweetness from heating quickly fades. That's the temp range well trained baristas froth to. Having said that I know there are some who prefer it hotter at the expense of flavor. For that I would preheat cups or increase drink temp with a quick hit in a microwave.

[@phatnareeevans4807]

@@Wholelattelovepage thank you so much.

[@blackcoalboy]

Hi,Marc. Can you answer a question that’s be popping up a lot lately on line, I have only two days ago bought myself the Jura E8 (great looking unit) But a lot of the medical opinions are that a survey was recently carried out and after 5 years of research suggesting coffee was bad for you. Any option on that? Thanks

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Dennis, Thanks for the question. I am not a medical researcher/scientist. I do however pay attention to medical studies as they are published. For the last few years what I have read suggests that coffee is beneficial. Those who drink coffee tend to live longer than those who do not. I did see some research a couple of days ago saying filtered coffee was better for those who have high cholesterol issues. The filter helps to remove oils/fats. I personally drink about 6 espresso or long coffees daily made from semi and/or super-automatic espresso machines and have done so for more than a decade. My cholesterol levels are fine. I am 55 and take the lowest dose statin that can be prescribed. According to my doc I'm in excellent health no high BP, good heart, good BMI and no chronic health issues. I do exercise daily and do cardio biking an average of 75 mi/wk as weather allows. But that's me and I'm not everyone. I would discuss any concerns with your doctor or other health care professional. Hope that helps! Marc

[@blackcoalboy]

Whole Latte Love Thanks Marc for your reply,So are these bean to cup coffee machines filtered coffee? Thanks

[@joanfermo5221]

I love watching your channel. I am waiting for my Jura E8 delivery! I am new to this, and is a bot confused. If Jura E8 has an espresso x2 feature.. what is the difference of espresso doppio from espresso x 2 feature? Would both grind a total of 28g (since I ve read from the comments here that each espresso shot with highest strength will use 14g of espresso?

[@SLAJMIOR]

Hi there. Does the Jura E8 work with Google Home Assistant?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi S, Thanks for the question. Not that I'm aware of. It is compatible with Jura's Smart Connect bluetooth device: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-smart-connect-bluetooth-adapter With that installed you can have complete control of the machine using Jura's J.O.E. app on a smartphone or tablet. Marc

[@victoriazivyon9331]

if I have filtered water set up in my house do I need to use the filter? (reverse osmosis water filtration)

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Victoria, Thanks for the question. Answer depends on what type of RO system you have. Many RO systems have a bypass which adds back some water which was not treated by RO (may have had particle and carbon filtration) to maintain a mineral level to prevent metal corrosion and support good flavor. Others may not have that and produce pure zero TDS water. If your RO system does re-introduce minerals to water after treatment then you should use a filter. If your RO system outputs pure zero TDS (mineral free) water then you would set the machine at the lowest possible hardness level in the menu. You would not need to use a filter in that case. But, the machine may at some pointy alert you to descale even though it is not required. If/when it does, just go through the motions of descaling without using descaler to clear the descaling alert. Something to be aware of: We do not recommend using pure zero TDS RO or distilled water in any machine. Over time ultra-pure water can be corrosive to metals. This type of water also over-extracts coffee resulting in bitter flavors. Hope that helps! Marc

[@victoriazivyon9331]

@@Wholelattelovepage just found out our RO system is NOT a pure zero TDS system, but we do not have any filters to add back any minerals, based on this information would you say that I do not have to use the filter? Or is this still close to a zero TDS? I went ahead and put in the unit ( just got it 2 days ago!) Now have to figure out how to make a 12 oz cup of coffee!!! :)

[@diegoortiz6436]

I have the Jura E8 but lately is making the coffee extremely bitter, do you have any advice ?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Diego, Bitter flavor is generally the result of over-extraction. First thing to try is adjusting the grind a little coarser and see if that helps. Can also try increasing the strength setting so your drink is brewing through more ground coffee. Marc

[@goldeagle2005]

Marc, in your earlier videos you used to first brew the espresso, steam milk and then pour it into the espresso. These days I see a lot of people steaming the milk first and then brewing and pouring in the espresso. Is it just to get a layered effect or does it impact the flavor as well?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi KM, Thanks for the question. When brewing on a manual machine - semi-automatic espresso, Typical prep is to pour milk over espresso unless making a latte macchiato to get the layered affect. Most automatic machines prep the milk first then espresso. Jura is one of the few that have some machines at the higher-end of their line which vary the prep order based on the type of drink being made. In their S8 model and above www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-s8-espresso-machine-in-moonlight-silver the flat white and cafe latte brew espresso first. Other drinks like latte macchiato and cappuccino do milk first then espresso. Marc

[@liamzhang6126]

I just bought JURA E8 2020 Dark Inox and JURA 72168 Professional Fine Foam Frother. Are they suitable? Because I can't 72168 get in to machine.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Liam, Maybe I'm confused but the E8 already has Jura's Fine Foam Frother G2 installed. Not sure why you'd want to switch that out. Did your machine look like this?: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-e8-in-black-g2 Marc

[@andresfg6788]

I’m going back and forth between this E8 and the Miele CM6150.. any suggestion Mark?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Andres, I've used the E8 extensively and have no experience with the Miele. Based on that go with Jura? Sorry I offer more. Marc

[@andresfg6788]

@@Wholelattelovepage of what I have read they’re both manufactured by the same company. Although the Miele is made in the Swiss manufacturing facilities where the Jura is outsourced to Portugal. Kind of weird if we consider the same prince point.. 🤔 i love the cleaning system for the Miele. Would love to see more reviews on that one though.

[@burogs]

After any milk drink, there is little amount of milk remaining in the hose. When i rinse the milk system, that does not get cleaned. Is there an easy way to clean it automatically?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi BA, Thanks for the question. Probably the easiest thing to do is remove hose and rinse manually at sink. Could also let it soak in container of warm soapy water and then rinse. When you do cleaning of the fine foam frother as described on page 29 of this manual: us.jura.com/-/media/global/pdf/manuals-na/Home/E8/E8-v18/download_manual_e8_e80_na.pdf?la=en&hash=F608A07490C1D79246C6118D36A666D3B3CBCC99&em_force=true Use the milk hose to connect to the dual chamber container. This runs Jura milk system cleaner through the hose. Hope that helps! Marc

[@xiaohutheorangedevon]

How do you clean the milk pipe?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Alan, Thanks for the question. The Jura E8 comes with a 2 chamber container for holding cleaning solution and used cleaning solution. It's a very nice setup - Jura is all about making maintenance easy. To clean the milk tube and frothing components the milk tube is attached to the 2 chamber container. Then cleaning solution runs through the milk pipe and machine frothing components. It's an automatic process. Full details in this link to the Jura E8 Manual: www.manualslib.com/manual/1265448/Jura-E8.html?page=30#manual Marc

[@bbrruunnccii]

Hi, can you tell me what is the difference between e8 and e80? Thnx

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi TB, Thanks for the question. The E80 is an older model. No longer available to best of my knowledge in the US. It may still be available as used or reconditioned... perhaps even new in other countries. Marc

[@darylreseigh2111]

On the Jura website it says smart connect comes as standard...im guessing they mean support for it and not that the dongle is included? I've seen people moaning about the milk temperate...how do you find it?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Daryl, The E8 we carry does not include the Smart Connect Bluetooth adapter: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-smart-connect-bluetooth-adapter But the E8 is compatible with it and Jura's J.O.E app. IMO Jura has good and proper milk temps for best flavor. I believe those complaining about milk temps expect a latte to have an in cup temp similar to a cup of regular drip coffee. Milk gains the most apparent sweetness from heating in the 130-150F range. Marc

[@darylreseigh2111]

Whole Latte Love Hi Marc, that’s great Thankyou. I just bought it and received today. Just finished setting up my E8 and on the box it says smart connect included! I had a look and yes it’s included in the box! I’m in the uk so not sure if that changes things. I just made a flat white from the app on max temp and yes it’s plenty hot enough. What a cracking machine, love it already! Just reading up on what I’m supposed to do for daily cleaning on the milk system, the full rinse seems a lot? Mine also says G3 on the box

[@jx2540]

do you still need to use the filter if you use bottled water ?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi JX, Depends on the water used. If not using a filter the machine will alert you to descale based on your bottled water's hardness and number of brew cycles. Marc

[@Lorrainemorgan17]

If I order a drink from my smartphone and there mistakenly is no cup on the drip tray- will the machine recognise there is no cup underneath and not make the coffee?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi LL, Unfortunately the machine does not recognize a no cup condition. Marc

[@Avocado818]

Does the e8 and s8 make the same exact drinks? Does one make a drink the other does not?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Y, The S8 has Caffe Latte on the menu the E8 does not. Other than that the same. Marc

[@bgoldsm]

Do you use the same espresso beans for coffee too?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

HI BG, Thanks for the question. Yes you can use the same beans. And, just a heads up... there aren't really "espresso" beans. Any beans can be used to make espresso or regular coffee. Many work well for both brew methods. Marc

[@shmuelrosenthal6661]

I'm a bit of a coffee noobie. Can you explain what the difference is between the lattes this machine can make, and the "cafe latte" that only the S8 says it can make? Thanks for the video!!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi SR, Thanks for the question. The difference is in the order of milk and espresso prep. Lower cost machines typically only do milk first then espresso. The E8 does make an espresso machiatto which does the espresso first then milk froth on top. Also does a latte machiatto which does milk froth first then espresso. On the S8 drinks like the cafe latte and flat white are made espresso first and then milk - same way a barista would make it. Main difference between E8 and S8 is the number of drinks which do espresso first then milk. More on the S8 and they can have larger volumes of espresso and milk in those drinks. Hope that helps! Marc

[@shmuelrosenthal6661]

@@Wholelattelovepage Wow, what a speedy reply! That's very helpful, thanks! Just scored a basically brand new E8 for about $1000 USD, so I'm excited to stop spending money at Starbucks :D

[@vessk000]

Can you please tell us wich is the best automatic machine in terms of maximum brew temperature, grind fineness and overall quality for espresso? I have currently a Krups bean-to-cup because it can brew at a much higher temperature than Saeco/Gaggia/Delonghi... as higher as 10 degrees (measured with a thermocouple). But the finest settings on the grinder is to coarse...

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi v, Thanks for the question. Jura machines produce a hot cup. Internally they brew at 195-205F (90.5-96C). As the espresso/coffee travels to the cup it does cool. I understand some are seeking the hottest cup possible. Do know that professional tasters and roasters prefer tasting at much cooler temps typically in the 130-150F (54-66C). It’s near impossible to detect flavors in very hot or very cold beverages. One reason why poor quality coffee is served very hot and poor quality beer/wine is served cold. The closer a beverage is to body temp the easier it is to detect flavors. Marc

[@zyborg47]

Wow, that machine is nearly £1200 in the UK, that is a fair bit of money and those smart filers are £37 for 3, cheaper to descale to be honest

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi z, Thanks for the comment. I look at the machines as an investment in savings and lifestyle. Long-term one can save money over coffee shop and/or capsule brewing. Also save time in trips to cafe and waiting in line. From a lifestyle perspective nothing finer than having a high quality beverage whenever you want! As to the filters… Jura is about convenience and quality. Filtered water protects a machine (kind of like changing oil in a car) and improves flavor. A lot of well intentioned owners skimp on descaling. With the smart filters one never has to think about the maintenance. Marc

[@zyborg47]

@@Wholelattelovepage I agree with you about the machine being an investment and yes certainly better than capsule machines. i suppose the price of the machine is not bad, my Sage barista express cost £600, not that I pad that much for it. Well i do agree with you about the water filter, I still think it is over priced, Sage is the same with their new filters as well. It is like the printer manufactures with their ink, over priced. i descaled my machine a couple of weeks ago, but then I am lucky not to live in a hard water area, sadly unless filtered the water still taste awful. which is why I use a filter jug

[@russidordi1482]

Hi, got my E 8 a couple of days back and I can't get to the screen where I can choose my drink. When I switch ON I get messages to Empty the tray, or Cleaning progrommes, and all other stuff, but NOT the screen you've got on your video @ 6: 28 mins. HELP !!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi RD, If you remove and empty the tray with the machine on it should return you to the main menu. If you end up at a screen asking to run cleaning you should be able to bypass. Marc

[@russidordi1482]

@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc. Still don't know what I was messing up but all OK now. THanks !

[@russidordi1482]

@@Wholelattelovepage Hi Marc all sorted, Thanks

[@russidordi1482]

Sorted, thanks

[@madar18]

Hi, I removed the milk froth spout by mistake,how can I fit it back properly,I'm pushing it back but it won't go back as I was. Can someone help me please?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi MC, Here's a link to the E8 manual. See page 30 for image and instructions of how the froth spout is assembled: hk.jura.com/-/media/global/pdf/manuals-global/home/E-Line-2018/download_manual_v18_E8_E80_E800.pdf?la=en&hash=DEAF51650B7E5F8C3A7D440854259F9DAB12075E&em_force=true Marc

[@ShakeMyWay]

Can you froth and steam almond and coconut milks with that machine?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi SMW, Thanks for the question. Non-diary milks can froth. But, There are differences in froth quality depending on the variety. In my experience most varieties of Almond milk work well. Straight coconut milk doesn't froth well even in manual frothing machines. Marc

[@INTERLAGOS54]

If you save a drink on your phone, will it be accessible through the menu on the machine too? Id love to save a few different drinks for my family so they dont have to fiddle with it every time through the app.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi I, Thanks for the question. You cannot transfer drinks created in the app to the menu on the machine. For what you want to do it's best to program the drinks on the machine.

[@joehoneydolist]

I like dark roast coffee will this machine work with oily dark roast beans?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi J, Thanks for the question. We strongly advise against using beans with visible surface oils in all super-automatic machines regardless of manufacturer. Marc

[@TheCodeTinkerer]

It has a ceramic dual blade grinder. Should no be a problem from my experience with the gen 1 version.

[@dreadedtred]

What about flavored drinks? Caramel Mocha etc.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi TT, Thanks for the question. Most add flavors using syrups. Same as in a coffee shop. Marc

[@lukaszczarczyk4872]

I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I can't get separation in my latte machiato.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi LC, Thanks for the question. Are you using the Jura E8 machine? If so, you can set a delay time in the macchiato programming. The delay allows less airy milk to settle to the bottom of the glass. Espresso then sits on top of this layer when brewed and under the less dense airy milk froth on top. Try increasing the delay time in programming. Also, The E8 fine foam frother has 2 positions. Us the position which produces an airier froth. Hope that helps! Marc

[@lukaszczarczyk4872]

@@Wholelattelovepage I do use and I'm at the point of 45 sec delay but still no luck. I've got to the point I have to hold spoon under coffee when it's coming out. Then I can get separation I try everything but it want make it by its self

[@GenaMak]

Is there difference between first and second generation of this Jura E8 model?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Gena, Yes. The current E8 models has an upgraded frothing device. Marc

[@GenaMak]

Whole Latte Love thank you, Marc for responding. Is there way to distinguish them visually or, by model number?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Gena Mak Hi the previous E8 had a round dial on the milk frothing component. New version as a lever on the milk frothed.

[@DC-rx8rb]

What is the material made out of for E8?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Case is mostly plastic