Reviewing my Favorite Table Saw | 1908 Fay & Egan | Engels Coach Shop

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My 1908 Fay and Egan, 16 inch, dual arbor, sliding table saw is a classic foundation to my carriage and wagon shop. I'll show you how I maintain the babbitt bearings, how a dado head is accommodated and why I don't use the original blade guard. This is a classic in high precision vintage table saws.
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@barryduckworth5224
@barryduckworth5224 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video and your explanation of the saw and how and why you operate the way you do. I don't think a lot of the folks here will realize how much productive work time you lost to make this. I appreciate it.
@georgesmicallef5418
@georgesmicallef5418 3 жыл бұрын
i love the way you do not hesitate to spend your time to explain to your followers who are not regularly using electric tools that tool guards are often time not so practical and as safe as they pretend. Safety accessories list is too wide to detail here but with or without guard, electric tool utilisation needs a lot of concentration, as we can notice on all your videos, to avoid any injuries. Again thank you for caring your viewers with huge attention.
@CosmasBauer
@CosmasBauer 3 жыл бұрын
An absolute dream of a table saw.
@canaanbrixton6712
@canaanbrixton6712 2 жыл бұрын
i guess Im randomly asking but does any of you know a tool to get back into an Instagram account?? I somehow forgot my login password. I love any help you can offer me!
@giovannipaul2481
@giovannipaul2481 2 жыл бұрын
@Canaan Brixton instablaster ;)
@my2monkies
@my2monkies 3 жыл бұрын
"Keep Your Head In The Game" that says it all. Thanks for being there Pal
@RosaStringWorks
@RosaStringWorks 3 жыл бұрын
You and I are so much alike it is scary. LOL Same philosophies especially on the guards, etc. Yes it is a little less safe, but we take that into account. I build and repair stringed instruments have over 500 videos on YT. I also live on a farm have horses and have rebuilt a couple horse drawn rigs. So I can fully relate to everything you do and "go through' on YT.
@rwagjr
@rwagjr 3 жыл бұрын
Brother Dave you are hands down the coolest guy on the Internet. Your skills, knowledge and overall demeanor express true Learning easily accessible and acceptable for every age and every skill level. Thank you for the calm and happiness you bring into my home each and every week. You are much loved, respected and appreciated. שבת שלום
@EngelsCoachShop
@EngelsCoachShop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. Glad to hear from a friend.
@horatiohornblower868
@horatiohornblower868 3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with Babbitt bearings as long as they are well lubricated. And when they start getting sloppy you can always pour new lining. And you're absolutely right: that guard is inherently dangerous. Keep up the good work!
@BillB23
@BillB23 3 жыл бұрын
Keep an eye on your work. If the wood relieves it's tension against the blade stop and drive a small wedge to avoid kickback. (Or have a helper spread the off cut.)
@elrond12eleven
@elrond12eleven 2 жыл бұрын
the best thing with babbit bearings is that when they are sloppy you can pull a shim out and tighten them up again - and again and again. And only when shims end - in a 2121 maybe - Dave will recast the babbit.
@A50S2D
@A50S2D 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! A 112 year old table saw that is still being used.
@glenncerny8403
@glenncerny8403 3 жыл бұрын
Well said. I have my comfort zone and you have your comfort zone. I am responsible for me and you are responsible for you.
@joshschneider9766
@joshschneider9766 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I can't believe that old beast actually did have a guard. Train wreck of one that seems more dangerous than helpful lol don't blame ya for not using it
@BillB23
@BillB23 3 жыл бұрын
The first time dad let me watch him use the table saw he told me, "Billy, the saw is stupid. It doesn't know the difference between wood and meat. You have to be smarter than the saw." For many years thereafter he tought me numerous ways to do just that. I can still count to 10 w/o removing my shoes. It appears that you have had similar instruction. Thanks, Dave, for passing on the knowledge and attitude of being smarter than one's tools. Don't zone out! Ya gotta keep your head in the game! Words to live by.
@charlescartwright6367
@charlescartwright6367 3 жыл бұрын
Almost the exact comment to me by my dad, but in a different situation. The old farm machinery did not come with guards, belts chains and gearing were mostly in the open. so his comments were related to that. I am a retired (80 year old) machinist, cabinet maker, etc and still have all ten top and bottom due to this advice. Can you imagine the safety gurus with the old buck saw we used for fire wood, 24" blade no guards and belt driven off the tractor 20 feet away. The best safety is between the ears.
@BillB23
@BillB23 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlescartwright6367 In my humble opinion, concerning hand tools, power tools, and firearms the only reliable safety is between the ears. Also my dad tought me that 97% of happiness is between the ears and the other 3% doesn't matter.
@JohnDoe-bd5sz
@JohnDoe-bd5sz 3 жыл бұрын
My dad always told me that the machines were just waiting to bite you at the first chance they get, so to always watch where your hands and fingers are at alle times. Can't say that i have never been bitten, but i still have all my fingers to this day. :)
@wandagilmore9133
@wandagilmore9133 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks,I enjoyed this video!! I have been in const. 50 yrs. and this is the first time I have seen this type of table saw!!! Of course we have seen you use it but have not seen all that comes with it!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!! R and W (Randy)
@N57RU
@N57RU 3 жыл бұрын
Well, if you ever need your bearings serviced, I am well known in the midwest for babbitt work. I have poured, scraped and aligned hundreds of pounds of Babbitt over the years. I know it's hard to find anyone with those skills in this day and age, just like finding someone with your skill set. Although I work full time for a more modern CNC machine manufacturer, I still help old clients and friends out occasionally. Keep me in your notes for the future if need be. Thanks for all you do on here. It's one of my weekend must do's, watching your videos.......
@Renville80
@Renville80 3 жыл бұрын
If Dave ever needs to have the babbitt bearings re-poured, a video of the process is a must! Not many have the skill or patience to do babbitt pouring and scraping these days.
@brucemeller2794
@brucemeller2794 3 жыл бұрын
Russ, to preserve your skills, could you make a series of videos on the production and maintenance of Babbitt bearings? My old lathe has them. Pity help us if they wear out.
@N57RU
@N57RU 3 жыл бұрын
@@brucemeller2794 Possibly in the future, but life is against it at this time. For the next several months, my plate is full. That's what happens when you become the Patriarch (Edited) of the family when your Dad passes away and your invalid Mother is still living along with working 50 plus hours a week. Don't get me wrong, I have thought about making videos, but out of the question right now.
@brucemeller2794
@brucemeller2794 3 жыл бұрын
@@N57RU Wow, Russ. Bat on. Your service to your mother will be of huge value to her. (Sorry to learn about your Dad. From my experience - Dad died when I was 19 - it’s a grief that endures through your whole life. 😢)
@patrickbenjamin6007
@patrickbenjamin6007 3 жыл бұрын
@@brucemeller2794 y
@wrp3621
@wrp3621 3 жыл бұрын
In my lifetime in the woodworking trade, the most common accidents I’ve seen were kickbacks. A riving knife would probably help prevent some of those kickbacks that are caused by binding. And they definatly work for your basic twisty wood binding. So they might be worth a try. I only know one guy who uses them, and he swears by it. Crown gaurds seem to limit the capabilities of the tool far to much to be practicle. I make up a half dozen push sticks at a time and use them religiously, my hand never goes closer than 6 inches to a moving blade, and so far so good. Saftey is in control, and in control is precision.
@tem1939
@tem1939 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the 1960s I worked for J. A. Fay & Egan. They had been purchased by Grieves Machine Tool and went by Grieves, Fay & Egan making Greives machine tools, rebuilding wood working machines and operated as a jobbing machine shop. By this time, they had quit making woodworking machines except for a machine that made shoe lasts used for making shoes. They would search and buy old Fay & Egan machines and rebuild them into like new. I was a machinist and made/refurbished many parts. I left after a few years, and they finally folded up and closed in the early 70s. I worked on many of their band saws which were used for small sawmills and used 6" wide blades and the lower wheel sat down into a pit. I re-machined many of the blade wheels. I never saw a table saw and didn't know they even made one. That is quite an impressive piece of equipment.
@mikedudley3053
@mikedudley3053 3 жыл бұрын
Designed by a genius below the table, and a committee above!
@eyuptony
@eyuptony 3 жыл бұрын
Very well said. Its amazing for its age.
@devemch7851
@devemch7851 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. That is funny but so true. I keep my Oliver guard and Wadkin guard on the wall for shop decor. I have hated saw guards my whole life because I can’t see what I am doing! The only injury I ever had was when a straight line safety shield cold cocked me in the head at work. So much for safety guards!
@sfeddie1
@sfeddie1 3 ай бұрын
This old saw is certainly “prehistoric”, but it also has that look and vibe of how things were built to be functional and last along time that makes it really cool….Except for that pretty much useless guard.
@JohnDoe-bd5sz
@JohnDoe-bd5sz 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the mindset of my father.. I have this dado blade, but i never use it because it does not work....But i did not discard it, so now it sits in my garage, taking up space. Multiply this by 40 years, and there is a lot of old "crap" that never gets used, but is still somehow to "valuable" to throw away for some reason :)
@daleolson7205
@daleolson7205 3 жыл бұрын
Don't you know we can't throw anything away until it has been properly aged to the correct vintage?
@eddiestipe2009
@eddiestipe2009 3 жыл бұрын
Dave, thank you for the update on your table saw I’ve never seen one before and it was very interesting. sometimes I wish people would keep their opinions to themselves and those that think that the world rotates around them. if they use safety equipment they think everybody else to use also. You’ve been doing good working probably 10 years more than I have and I still have all my 10 digits. They need to understand that this is your shop and you he will do the things that are best for you.
@slashusr
@slashusr 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dave, for another wonderful video showcasing a fantastic tool.. Again and again, in your thoughtful, laconic way, you manage to conjure memories that tug at my very heart and soul. From the time I was old enough to be allowed into the garage to watch my Dad working (some 60 years ago) until I was a teenager I didn't even know saws *came* with guards! One particular tool that scared the bejeezus out of me every time it started up, screamed through a 2x4, or even standing still was his Skil 8 1/2" Sher 850 power hand saw--no guard at all--he'd taken it off and would just wait til stopped and lay it carefully down on the ground. He (and I) used it for another 40 years and more. I think it's still in the garage somewhere. Thanks, Dave.
@jamesconner8275
@jamesconner8275 3 жыл бұрын
I see and understand. I'm with you, keep the guard and dado blades on the shelf. You made a great comment, "Keep your head in the game." I'm still count ten too, and it's because I don't work with any distractions and take frequent breaks on long production runs.
@imaoregonbum6683
@imaoregonbum6683 3 жыл бұрын
What's a sign of a good carpenter, he who has all his fingers. We have to be smarter than the tools we operate.
@thisolesignguy2733
@thisolesignguy2733 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you that that guard is more dangerous then just paying attention. The biggest safety feature is always your own awareness. Nothing is fool-proof, and sometimes someone trying to make it so will inevitably make it more dangerous. my favorite quote is "the biggest problem with making anything foolproof is underestimating the ingenuity of complete fools" Thanks for giving the best advice of all, "pay attention and you'll keep your fingers" btw, I can tell winter is around the corner, Dave's beard is getting bushy :)
@johnking8679
@johnking8679 2 жыл бұрын
Your explanation and years of experience are good enough for me, my friend !! A safe and Happy New Year to you and your family !!
@Rspri10104
@Rspri10104 3 жыл бұрын
I don't fear my saws I respect them. I have often lusted over your table saw. What an great old machine.
@juantransportador
@juantransportador 3 жыл бұрын
HELLO from chihuahua mexico, 1908 when the factory's use to make good machinery, GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
@michael931
@michael931 3 жыл бұрын
Are there really parts of Chihuahua that get 3 feet of snow per year, and -20 degrees? (C)
@gbwildlifeuk8269
@gbwildlifeuk8269 3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous machine. As far as safety goes, consideration should always be given to the experience of the user.
@misterf.2662
@misterf.2662 2 жыл бұрын
That revolving dual blade system is cracking brilliant. I love the smoothness of the machined surface and sled movement. It's a toss-up whether it is more beautiful than it is functional without denigrating the quality of the engineering design concepts underpinning the form.
@jeffclark2725
@jeffclark2725 2 жыл бұрын
Great video,Your the only one who operates the saw ,along with all the other various machines,You know what your doing
@richardspees841
@richardspees841 3 жыл бұрын
I have a modern table saw, and the guard on it gets in the way for a lot of things. I used to take if off and put it back on after something where I needed better vision or access. It has now been off for 20 years. You are right, respect your tools and know where your hands, fingers and the sharp pointy rotating thingies are at all times. Thanks for the tour of your saw and for sharing your thoughts.
@jdcamc
@jdcamc 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about the dado saw on the last video and why you didn't use one. Now I know that you would probably spend more time changing out the blades than actually working! Thanks for another great video, Dave!
@networkengineer.online
@networkengineer.online 3 жыл бұрын
She's a beaut' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well thought out upgrades and maintenance tasks.
@brucemeller2794
@brucemeller2794 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, Dave, I love the way you make things so plain and simple. And I love your memorable sayings like, “Keep your head in the game.” Somehow, you make even the mechanics of an old table saw essential viewing. Thanks so much for serving all of us. 👌👍👏🙏
@adrianu5481
@adrianu5481 3 жыл бұрын
The thing about protecting us from risk is that it encourages us to think we are protected. In other words we don,t develop any street smarts. Like you Dave, I have all my fingers and a great respect for power tools. 'Common sense' is not all that common today. Thanks once again Dave for another Friday night special.
@lowellsandell427
@lowellsandell427 3 жыл бұрын
Amen, common sense has gone the way of the dodo along with responsible journalism and comedy...
@gentlemandude1
@gentlemandude1 3 жыл бұрын
Common sense has always been rare. People in the past didn't have a surplus of it.
@Yoeshi
@Yoeshi 3 жыл бұрын
It is old but fully functional ... 👍👍👍👍 They are not made that way nowadays and I still have to see that today's sawing machines reach more than 100 years !!!! 😉😁
@duanelundgren7985
@duanelundgren7985 3 жыл бұрын
"Oil Can Maintenance" is a long lost art!!! And in my opinion, relying on safety guards is an abdication of responsibility. A person HAS to be in charge of the machine he is using... as I mentioned, last week, THIS MACHINE HAS NO BRAIN.... USE YOUR OWN!!! Thanks, Mr. Dave!!!! :-)
@bruceyoung9791
@bruceyoung9791 3 жыл бұрын
Now I understand how that dual blade mechanism works in general. I wish I had the space for that type saw. As a wood worker myself, I learned the hard way to think your tool thru before using. I lost the tips off two fingers on left hand few years back. Luckily I'm right handed. But from that point on I'm very careful where my hands/fingers are. I would follow your Philosophy on the dado issue and that particular guard issue. Thank you for another fine video
@bvalt1
@bvalt1 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who's been bitten by 2 different table saws over 30 + years, and still has all 10 digits, I agree that some guards are just too dangerous to use, including many of the modern guards that end up bending or breaking because of the cheap stamped steel and plastic that they are made of. They just get in the way and don't allow you to see what you are doing. Table saws are inherently dangerous to use, as are most industrial machines that tradespeople use on a daily basis. You have to go in with that knowledge and respect the machine, and never allow anything to distract you from what you are focusing on. That's how I got bit, luckily I didn't lose anything but a small amount of motion in one of my fingers, could have been way worse. The "Safety Sally's" likely never had to use these machines daily for years on end. As an old NE carpenter, I love watching you create, or recreate history. Thank YOU!!
@stanfordcoffee
@stanfordcoffee 3 жыл бұрын
There are way too many safety Sallys in the comments section of KZbin! Don't let them wear you down! You're obviously a master craftsman at what you do, and it's not our business to tell you how to do it! Remember, most of these commenters couldn't run a pencil sharpener without eye and ear protection, heavy gloves, and a Kevlar vest. LOL Keep up the good work, I really enjoyed the table saw walk around as I had a lot of questions after the last video. Cheers
@johnshoureas1629
@johnshoureas1629 3 жыл бұрын
They have a huge following and call themselves "The Sallymanders".
@BobBlarneystone
@BobBlarneystone 3 жыл бұрын
As former med school prof who has sat through many trauma meetings, I'll you that you're wrong. Both inexperienced and experienced operators have 'accidents' - one doesn't know what they're doing, and the other takes chances when they shouldn't.
@johnshoureas1629
@johnshoureas1629 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobBlarneystone Your first name tells it all.
@xerxespamplemousse6622
@xerxespamplemousse6622 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobBlarneystone The real testimonial for safety devices is that the majority of videos by woodworking professionals show Sawstop table saws.
@steveskouson9620
@steveskouson9620 3 жыл бұрын
Grapefruit, I build up SawStop table saws, to be delivered, by the company I work for. Last month, a customer I've known for a while, showed up, with his left (he's right handed) hand all bandaged up, with some pretty serious damage to his thumb. He had seen the used SawStop on the sales floor earlier, but refused to get it. Not this time. Boss and I delivered it, and picked up his pristine Powermatic table saw. I thought about mentioning something about closing the barn door,AFTER the livestock had escaped, but didn't. His thumb is almost OK. steve
@JourneymanRandy
@JourneymanRandy 3 жыл бұрын
I like that saw. Someone at your skill level never should have to explain why you do it this way. Crossing the street is dangerous you could be hit by a bus. Keep it up Dave.
@moebandy8274
@moebandy8274 3 жыл бұрын
Those old tools are awesome I have run a few of them cabinet and wood turning shops 35 years I still have Ten Keep your head in the game and know were your fingers are 👍
@lanceholloway6902
@lanceholloway6902 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic piece of machinery you have. Some times the super power of common sense is better than the safety features. Keep up the fantastic videos.
@canaan5337
@canaan5337 3 жыл бұрын
I had been wondering about that saw, I've never seen one like it and now that i know it was made in 1908 I can see why. 112 years old and it works great they don't make them like that anymore.
@jamesnelson1756
@jamesnelson1756 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to see how industrial machines were designed in the early years. Thanks you.
@garyrhodes7089
@garyrhodes7089 3 жыл бұрын
Nice saw thanks for showing it to the world
@rickc4317
@rickc4317 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dave, for taking the time to answer a lot of questions I know many of us were wondering about. Well done, sir.
@brokenxj
@brokenxj 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tour, love seeing the ins and outs of these old tools.
@generedwine6863
@generedwine6863 3 жыл бұрын
Love the saw. Totally understand guard problems. Appreciate very much you sharing this video.
@cabman86
@cabman86 Жыл бұрын
That thing is a work of art!
@libraiis
@libraiis 3 жыл бұрын
Love the saw.. and a big thumbs up on the safety comments , after 50 plus years at trade I really understand what yo are saying. It is my experience that most guards have similar issues and limits built into them. Like you I need to know where the blade is and where everything else is at the same time. RESPECT for the machine is number one, after those 50 plus years I still have all the parts in place so I guess I was taught well.. Great channel thank you.
@ronmack1767
@ronmack1767 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video Mr.Engel. That is one hoss table saw. Don't blame you a bit for not using that guard. It amazes me they even made a guard for it back when it was manufactured. Y'all take care and God bless.
@tomtruesdale6901
@tomtruesdale6901 3 жыл бұрын
That saw is a beast! I bet that saw has seen thousands of board feet of lumber go through the blade. I agree that the guard is to complicated to be safe. Maybe if the saw was used to cut one sized piece all day long then it would work but I can't see having to change the set up each time you need to change the saw settings. YOU know what you are doing and are mindful of the postion of your hands and the blade. That is safe enough for me. Great video as always
@EngelsCoachShop
@EngelsCoachShop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom.
@eurekasprings1
@eurekasprings1 3 жыл бұрын
Don't blame you for not using the guard or that dado blade.I don't use the guard either.40+ years using a table saw and I too still have all my fingers.Thanks for showing the the saw in detail.
@lowellfunk8974
@lowellfunk8974 3 жыл бұрын
The best safety guards are ourselves! If you are not sure how to be safe doing something, then don't do it unless you are able to get some advice and teaching from someone who has the experience and skills to help you get the job done safely. I'm with Dave on this one, respect the tools you use, but don't become complacent and think it'll never happen to you! It happens to everyone sooner or later to some extent. Keep up the great work!
@sdrailfan892
@sdrailfan892 2 жыл бұрын
That is a great table. I agree the guard is dangerous. You have the right attitude, keep your head in the game and pay attention to what you are doing. I run my saws without a guard also as they get in the way and make doing many tasks more dangerous. Keep up the good work.
@courtneyhall7140
@courtneyhall7140 3 жыл бұрын
it is always great to watch your videos dave,very educational.
@markkoons7488
@markkoons7488 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tour. It feels like a comprehensive assessment of these legendary machines.
@TheJimbodean67
@TheJimbodean67 3 жыл бұрын
I concur for the blade guard. The cons outweigh the pros. The repeated tasks necessary for multiple parts would take twice to three times as long. Not to mention the potential of interference with itself would add rather than detract any hazard. Knowing and respecting the tool, especially a glorious old workhorse like that table saw, shouldn’t have to be explained. But it never hurts to do so. Thank you for sharing!
@scotta3906
@scotta3906 3 жыл бұрын
Great advice! Love that table saw
@steveadams99708
@steveadams99708 3 жыл бұрын
A great saw and a very intelligent operator.
@genegoodman5233
@genegoodman5233 3 жыл бұрын
There probably are only a couple of people out here that have run machines that are as dangerous as some of yours. they have never said a word about the way you do things. I’m surprised there’s even a guard made of this saw. Yes there are people that get hurt on equipment, that’s life. I guess they need a fence on all the beaches cause they are dangerous, people drown. I could keep on going but a Master Craftsman like Dave does not need second guessers to tell him how to do his job. He’s got more knowledge in his pinkie fingernails than these people punching the dislike thumb cause their JEALOUS. Love you Dave stay safe.
@vincentwesolowski459
@vincentwesolowski459 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the explanation and operating characteristics of your table saw.
@georgeescaped6035
@georgeescaped6035 3 жыл бұрын
have never seen one of these and i have to say that is one NICE saw and wish they made these now.. thanks!
@jimellison3358
@jimellison3358 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video, that Saw has fascinated me for several years thank you for the detailed explanation of how it works
@justinbudreau4814
@justinbudreau4814 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the overview, that is an awesome saw.
@gunterschone8402
@gunterschone8402 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. You explained and showed it very well! 👍🏼
@kalebmagnusson981
@kalebmagnusson981 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful piece of history. Thanks for sharing that. I love old iron
@kegboy12
@kegboy12 3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful old saw. Thanks for the video.
@don1031
@don1031 3 жыл бұрын
Such a fun tour of your table saw. Thank you! Being able to change from one arbor to the other just by cranking a handle is such a great idea and design.
@kenjimac2211
@kenjimac2211 3 жыл бұрын
Such a nice saw, a great deal of thought went into it's engineering.
@GavinFreedomLover
@GavinFreedomLover 3 жыл бұрын
Great video the Yanks made some really epic stuff back in the day , Thanks for sharing.
@gwharton68
@gwharton68 3 жыл бұрын
Amen to your thoughts on guarding.
@MP-kj8jm
@MP-kj8jm Жыл бұрын
Miałem stolarnię dwadzieścia lat ale takiej wspaniałej piły nie widziałem. Mimo to również mam dziesięć palców. 😁 Film świetny. Pozdrawiam kolegę stolarza
@lunkydog
@lunkydog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the saw review. I was amazed by it last week. Many nice features.
@Renville80
@Renville80 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, and I fully understand the reasoning behind the steps you take with the saw. Thank you for showing us and answering our questions. Looking forward to the next video.
@douglasschafer6372
@douglasschafer6372 Жыл бұрын
I've wondered about the saw, you answered all my questions. At age 74, I'm on my 3rd table saw. I actually cut off the guards on the first two, but the 3rd one is a Sawstop that I use without guards also. Although I do love my splitter. Maybe it's my age, but I'm with you 100% on the guards. Great vid, thanks
@gordbaker896
@gordbaker896 3 ай бұрын
My old HS Shop Teacher had 1/2 thumb on one hand. He alwasy demonstrated it when instructing on the Table Saw. Noted!
@leebarnes655
@leebarnes655 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed look at that beauty Dave. I had first noticed only a few videos ago that it was driven by a flat belt and a very healthy sized motor. My guess was 2 HP at that time, so only off 1/2 or thereabouts of the original. But 10 - wow. Trying to price a new original 5 doesn't sound very appealing and if the 10 was reasonable, I can see why you went there. But still - wow. I'm alright, don't worry about me, but this will take some more wows and I'll be fine. Wow.
@dougberrett8094
@dougberrett8094 3 жыл бұрын
Saws are not the only machine where the guards can be more dangerous than no guards. I have disabled the interlock that supposedly forces me to keep a guard around the end mill on my small mill. I have run mills of various flavors since the early 1970’s, and believe me, the guard is a big hazard. Good show!
@donmedford2563
@donmedford2563 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for making this video. I have been curious about that saw since I first started watching your videos about 8 months ago. I missed the first video of the saw so I will look for it now. Thanks again and keep up your fantastic work.
@markhillmann633
@markhillmann633 3 жыл бұрын
This F&E is much like my old Oliver No. 60 Universal saw, but probably a better machine. I never used the guard, it was more dangerous than helpful. But the fence, the miter gauges, the graduated sliding table etc. were really useful. I retired years ago, and still have all 10 fingers, thank God. Many thanks for your videos!
@rushd45
@rushd45 3 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful saw, and the explaination of the good and bad was full of humor and well done. Loved the head back and forth when trying to see the pencil mark.
@chiefof
@chiefof 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent-as usual-explanation. Thank you.
@xoxo2008oxox
@xoxo2008oxox 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say, that was the best video I've watched on demonstrating an antique table saw. Not only were you informative, but you had great angles on the mechanism, the oiling process, the dado and safety hardware. I completely understand the warnings as well as why your operation makes sense. Thank you so much for taking the time to show us, elaborate and put a video together on the Fay and Egan Dual arbor!
@jimdee5003
@jimdee5003 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed explanation 👍👍
@joealbert7773
@joealbert7773 3 жыл бұрын
Never saw anything like this before. It is an amazing piece of equipment.
@RoubinCreations
@RoubinCreations Жыл бұрын
I never saw that two blade mechanism before, that's so cool!
@leonardburns1780
@leonardburns1780 3 жыл бұрын
That is a very interesting saw thanks for showing this to us . I hade no idea that a double blade saw even existed let alone at that age . thank you for sharing this
@juz4kix
@juz4kix 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly one of the coolest saws ever! Thank you for sharing.
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 3 жыл бұрын
Great job Dave, thanks for sharing with us. You do a great job reminding us about being safe. 👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@MrRShoaf
@MrRShoaf 2 жыл бұрын
Dave, I have had the pleasure of using the same saw, and found it to being a joy to use. I especially like the fence and the way it adjusts. Modern designer's should take note of the ease of this.
@EngelsCoachShop
@EngelsCoachShop 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Good to hear there are others out there.
@brownbear226
@brownbear226 3 жыл бұрын
very unique table saw love it
@vincentrolfe1384
@vincentrolfe1384 Жыл бұрын
The Martin T60C sliding table (11') I acquired new some 12 years ago is still my favorite. I run a 350MM 84T ATB blade most of the time. There is a program for using a custom 12" square 1/4" dado blade that allows me to program any dado width to within .001". There is a digital miter parallelogram outrigger on the left side of the blade that is within .01" that tilts to .01 degree with exact repeatability. I make furniture and wood products. When I changed from commercial printing with 50 years in print about 12 years ago I bought woodworking machines and plan to take that to the end. Nice to see you working and good luck.
@josephkerley363
@josephkerley363 3 жыл бұрын
A fine old saw. Thanks for the tour of a grand lady.
@gman4802
@gman4802 3 жыл бұрын
All I can say is forget all the safety guys and do what you need to do. Your not dumb and not going to put a hand where it's not safe. You've been at it for longer them! I've watched every last one of your videos and think they are great.
@LTVoyager
@LTVoyager 3 жыл бұрын
It has nothing to with being smart or dumb or experienced or inexperienced. I know a woodworker who has done so for probably 50 years. He bought a Sawstop shortly after they hit the market, as much for the overall quality of the saw as for the safety feature. A couple of years ago, and he is still now sure how he did it, but he accidentally contacted the blade and triggered the mechanism. He said when he first heard the bang and then saw that his blade was missing, he assumed that the saw had malfunctioned. It was only when he inspected his fingers that he saw the minor cut that occurred before the mechanism fired. The only dumb part about using a power tool is thinking that you are too smart and too careful to have an accident.
@maknifeandrods7701
@maknifeandrods7701 3 жыл бұрын
It is such a cool piece of equipment like so many things in your shop
@stevensrspcplusmc
@stevensrspcplusmc 3 жыл бұрын
I see people all the time with blade guards and saw stop saws doing stupid stuff all the time.. been using a table saw since I was a kid without a guard.. as you I respect it and I still have all my fingers.. I think having some fear of the saw keeps you honest 👍😊
@railroad9000
@railroad9000 3 жыл бұрын
Having guards on equipment can lead to relying on them to the point of carelessness! Having a healthy respect for equipment, not to the point of fearing it, will lead to safer working. I have been woodworking more than 45+ years and never used a guard on the tablesaw. It was ALWAYS in the way.
@dorightal4965
@dorightal4965 3 жыл бұрын
Another great learning experience! Thanks for all the trouble you went to to demonstrate all the features and pros and cons of your remarkable saw! I know it must have consumed a lot of time filming and then editing all that you have shown us. Very much appreciated.
@benhancock1408
@benhancock1408 3 жыл бұрын
Very well said! The machines I learned woodworking on didn't have guards on either, and I still have all my original parts. I really enjoy your videos, keep up the good work.
@ellisc.foleyjr9778
@ellisc.foleyjr9778 3 жыл бұрын
Wow ! Thanks for taking the time to show us the "Innards" of that beast. I worked for an Elevator co for years and ran into a lot of old machinery, drums, sheaves, pulleys, shackles, and poured my share of Babbitt bearings, and cable "Rosebuds" so I can appreciate the care and maintenance of those bearings in the saw. Thanks again for showing us the saw and better yet for sharing.
@andrewjacques3960
@andrewjacques3960 3 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right, keep your head in the game anytime you use a power tool, or any tool for that matter. That saw is some thing I would love to have and use. It is a gem.
@christiangeiselmann
@christiangeiselmann 3 ай бұрын
What a fantastic saw!
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