Reviewing & Rating Throne's Latest "Talandre" Expansion

[@KanonXO]

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[@jr_olv]

10:45 "You're not gonna get a Lost Ark experience." Well, I appreciate that.

[@iamrikz]

foi um alivio escutar isso também haha

[@dradca]

Haha, I was worried for a second there, but they added 200 new items for build variety and expresion! Lost Ark combat system was fast but too repetitive and mind numbing.

[@paramore1014life]

Screw thhe haters im so excited for this game

[@darknightrider]

Exactly! This game has been overly hated since the first beta. I've played about 3 or 4 of the betas and they have made huge leaps in the right direction!

[@GiverrionBG]

The game is cool but pvp balance is dogshit. Abuse OP sns class or get oneshotted every time

[@joeka6405]

YT streamers are the biggest critics

[@aprofessionalateverything7585]

@@GiverrionBG I mean the whole point is that they're waiting until all the content is out to nerf anything, since new stuff will affect balance.

[@Deanodabrat]

Yes I’m the same I’m literally counting down the days 😍🥹

[@RafalBr]

looks to be agood game coming our way

[@abdelrahmanrad]

This is a bigger expansion than most expansions we get in other MMOs.

[@tkraft1442]

In Asia size matters.

[@paintspot1509]

so why is the game still dead?

[@andrasylvan9915]

@@paintspot1509 It isn't dead. Stop spreading misinformation.

[@PapaDee_]

@@paintspot1509 just because ur not playing it u think its dead LOOL.

[@GiverrionBG]

​@@andrasylvan9915its dead in KR. Before hyper server all servers were ghost towns. Only big cringe Alliances camping everything and not letting content to happen. They Just camp bosses and other pvp zones with huge numbers

[@OoWhiteStaroO]

Vampire area: Forest of the dead Dwarven golem area: Pavel ruins This is lineage 2. The old know this.

[@DaLightman]

My hopes for this game were to be L2 with better graphics 😊. Looks even better though

[@OoWhiteStaroO]

@@DaLightman I going to play with a lot of the ppl i played L2 years ago... Its FULL of easter eggs.

[@septuleptum]

@@DaLightman this in fact L2 for current generation. Incredible good mmo imo

[@MorrolanTV]

The pace of updates and quality of updates in Throne has been extraordinary in the last few months. If you read the dev updates on the patches too you can tell that they are being very thoughtful and listening closely. Totally 180'd my opinion on this game since the NA beta

[@beako6447]

on a flying whale. so we riding players now

[@dontmatter1368]

Lol that's what I was thinking 😂

[@Stoopzz]

Dude your great sword looks sick

[@sinircs]

Everytime I start playing a MMO I stick to one channel to learn that game, I choose you for T&L

[@haavardwooly6402]

Even if T&L doesn't pan out, at least I discovered this cool fucking dude

[@arturomendoza635]

Console players need a way to quickly zoom in and out while playing, older console MMO games played with controller like FF14 and ESO already by simply holding down L1+moving left stick, however right now in T&L You have to enter a menu on screen to do this

[@Divine_KaLi]

Not the menu just hold L2 chose caméra and zoom out it fast like bdo

[@DWZ78]

I would assume that the introduction of new items on such a scale will be a possible offset for some of the whales. Nice.

[@abdelrahmanrad]

12:59 best dungeon experience in the history of the genre. the innovation is real with this one

[@zenwilds2911]

Is there any news on housing? I haven't seen a single video or news about housing. Pre-built houses? Modular housing? Instanced? What are the decorations?

[@BobbyShau]

Is this update coming to global launch? Or after a while?

[@kurisu1204]

7:15 that sliding bug. It's hilarious to me because that's normal in FF14 when playing a melee character. Never noticed WHAT bugged me about it just that there's something THAT did feel clunky in ff14 combat. OCD satisfied, thanks for that xD

[@jadel1108]

pretty objective video. no glazing or hating, earned a sub my guy. keep it up

[@KanonXO]

Very much appreciated man

[@bbabines]

Same. That was my thought exactly. If someone can give pros, cons, or tradeoffs and show an ability be reasonable, that is worth a sub. Extra credit if you have the ability to change you opinion as things in the game change. Seems so rare these days with content creators.

[@lobsterpete8632]

so have they fixed the thingy where u suddently move while channeling skills or doing skill while in combat with something?

[@GlennAbucay]

im from the philippines where should i play in Korean Server or Global Release?

[@lestera6358]

steam

[@えーくっと]

I ask the main question from support healing / healer perspective, did thy improve anything to make healing and healing mechanism, along with rewarding healers for both pvp and pve at all? New Healing traits from the new patch does not give a true healer feeling and enjoyment we are getting from other mmorpgs like Aion, Tera Online, Lineage 2, and even Archeage really. At current T&L, healers are being used by DPS players, nothing more and healers always need a dps to do any content and grinding etc... because even you look at youtube videos - healer related contents and videos are very rare but everything is related to DPS...

[@warr39]

Thats because the game was not built like that, its not a true trinity system, there is no full fledged healer (or tank for that matter) like in aion, wow, lineage 2. Healer here its a dps with some extra support skills. Iv yet to see an actuall agro system either.

[@RandomGuy-bl9qi]

Crazy reviewing the expansion that still has its milestones ongoing, not to mention no occupation stones yet revealed lmao

[@cwen9680]

Was the expansion free or is adding dlc you need to purchase ingame or outside the game?

[@klinomaniac]

I tried to go up to the new region but it is blocked by a gate. How do we enter talandre? Are there player requirements?

[@ShaquomCumberbatch-mb3sb]

i wonder what the social aspect of this games going to be like, emotes, player interactions. etc etc.. If they can get it to Final Fantasy tier, yeah I can see this game staying around for a longgggggg time.

[@KaiAmreiza]

You kill each other in T&L, that's the social aspects you'll get. They're different kind of MMOs

[@dominiquesmith6745]

If you played lineage 2 then you have some idea

[@Zohangaming95]

Are the dungeons difficult or just a breeze to walk through with randoms even

[@upmarked]

It is not gonna be easy, the mechanics are not too hard, but you do need coordination for lot of them. With randoms in Korea atm, you are finishing 1/3 of your dungeons on avg.

[@dalekkgames5430]

so ready for western release...going bow/dagger so cant wait. Been while since i played a new mmo with daggers. New world never got daggers. ha Anyone got a discord or something i could join for throne and liberty western release. Looking for guilds ha

[@sejuneoh8605]

TL is getting better and better.

[@Wisznuification]

Is there some kind of a chart, what day and what time the game start depending of a time zone? I need to plan my days off :D

[@BIGHEADjr51]

Will all the new zones be included in the western release?

[@Yatsunagaming]

Not talandre update but skills update yes

[@KaiiZeR971]

really happy to see the direction of this game and also glad to see some real lifeskilling in the game even at an early stage for now ^^

[@ragebonn]

is the global version going to be released with this expansion ?

[@johnsenttv]

Woooooooooww whaaaaait how does this mage cast the fireball barage so offen?!?!? 10:45 Is he going Max cd or is this new gear thats not out yet 😮😮😮😮

[@impyr3x293]

whats the name of the weapons he is wearin?

[@FoodPeaceSelfcare]

Is there life skill and is it good money comparable to bdo?

[@Velakor9150]

9:10 *my 9600k laughing sitting at 100% CPU usage*

[@XeqtrM1]

I'm excited for early access for global I can't wait and I did get a founder so I'm excited to play since I want something new I been playing final fantasy xiv for so long

[@joss6663]

Awesome informative video bro !! keep em coming !

[@Makendu]

This game looks really good tbh.

[@TheRoadsProductions]

Good vid, i agree with most of your grades and takes here. One thing I would like to mention though, is that for me, i dont mind that the world bosses being added are simpler, or are without mechs like ahzreil like you mentioned. Honestly the most frustrating thing about the entire world boss system is when its pvp and you have 6 enemy guilds hiding outside of the safezone and waiting for the boss to do its raid wipe mechanic before coming in and cleaning up and resetting the boss. For some bosses its fine if you correctly do the mech (ahzreil, minezerok etc). For others they can hard grief the boss mech to wipe everyone even if your guild is doing the mech properly (nirma) and then theres the bane of existence (kowazan) where you literally cannot avoid the raid wide stun into fear into poison combo. I am thankful that they are not repeating these mistakes with the new bosses

[@PanagiotisVersuS]

Finally can someone tell me how the drop system works? I mean for world bosses who is gonna get the loot, the party with the biggest dmg or with the last hit?

[@killy2626]

Random to one of the dmg dealers

[@archietheplayer9228]

You didn't talk about the most important aspect of this expansion, THE BALANCE changes? Is the game still "Tanks and Liberty", so is SNS-wand still a meta defining class with no counter?

[@썰프리]

The sns+wand is not invincible🤣

[@yaitari]

I've been pretty negative about this game for a long time, for reasons, but I'll give It to Ncsoft, they care for this one and I hope It doesn't stop here

[@joshk6929]

An expansion already? Seems like the PS release is far lagging behind. Any chance if they will be blocking cross play until the PS community catches up to the PC counter parts in progress and economy???

[@SGSAMII]

I think you have been misinformed this is Korea launching new expansion the game releases on October 1 crossplatform for PC Xbox and PS but will not feature the new expansion only the new combat

[@feddonovan4861]

Open world bosses should be fair to solo players; it's not right to receive nothing just because you're alone. Diablo 4 ensures you get loot regardless of whether you're in a party or solo.

[@dradca]

Auto-attacks locking casting in place is awful gameplay wise, hope they fix it soon

[@hartlessforever]

Man i want this game so bad.

[@johnsnow6133]

is na going to get Talandre

[@SGSAMII]

Not on launch only the combat update and hopefully the Mythic style dungeons

[@johnsnow6133]

@@SGSAMII k game is dead on arrival then thx

[@SGSAMII]

@@johnsnow6133 what are you smoking

[@johnsnow6133]

@@SGSAMII every kr game that comes NA that is not current with KR patch has died. It completely ruins NA when you know exactly what is coming out and already pre min-max from KR players & and makes it feel pointless to grind the current NA content.

[@Yatsunagaming]

Great review bro

[@Zohangaming95]

U can only do 2 dungeons a day? Isn’t that bad

[@Viraze]

I’m hoping maybe he meant you only get boosted rewards or something for the first 2 dungeons.

[@-ANT-69]

the elite is uncapped but not at the start of the game the ones to level runes

[@dhaferbenmimoun7050]

I'm still waiting to play this and we're talking about expansions 😂

[@HoretzYT]

shame there are no fantasy races like in Lineage 2, i miss my orc Titan and frenzy

[@alexsava4681]

LIFESKILLING FINALLY

[@polowbornfly3862]

This is gonna last about as long as Elyon

[@SGSAMII]

Hey can you make a stand alone video informing people about the M+ dungeon and that Raids are coming to TL a lot of PVE players do not have any clue of this

[@Skyblade_88]

how to download and play this game in Europe ??? .. is it free to play ? thank you

[@luigim2209]

the global launch is gonna be in october 1st or september 24 for the early acces if im correct, and yes is a free game

[@Butcherbg]

I am gonna pause on 9.45 to insert conspiracy theory :P. They have "Imported" and "applied" Unreal 5 engine environment on Unreal Engine 4 Core game... Why?... Because they think they can :P. Players can seamlessly teleport from area to area, developers can seamlessly transition in game areas in real time from Unreal Engine 4 Starting Zones Environment to Unreal Engine 5 "outskirts"... I mean it`s bound to happen/needed at some time... so who knows what else (on top of that) are they experimenting with in "the background", a.k.a. not in the patch notes.). We do after all exist in 2024 with all those AI super computers... I guess someone went "AI attach and upkeep this designed in Unreal Engine 5 development kits area to this Unreal Engine 4 game" "Make it work and we will hook you another direct line to the nearest Nuclear Power plant :P" :P. Tuu, tu, tu tu tuu tuu... Gimbled X files tune. Bye.

[@itsDKRG]

7:00 yes... this is actually so annoying.

[@xthorlahx]

The Lithograph stuff is what ruined early game gearing progression for me.

[@texmanro]

Will they remove the Amitoy or put a option to remove it for me allso, not just other players? This is a huge immersion breacker

[@zSkinzy]

I think you can remove every amitoy even yours if I’m not wrong

[@texmanro]

@@zSkinzy ATM you can remove all but yours.

[@Shirolicious]

I'd like to know what the developers are thinking in terms of PvP. Its nothing like AION or LineAge II or ArcheAge in that regard and probably not the direction the devs want to take pvp. But, besides doing mass-pvp, what else do they envision when it comes to PvP?

[@abdelrahmanrad]

They are trying to provide GW2 PVP experience but seamless and with open world options.

[@escarretada]

@@abdelrahmanrad Gw2 pvp is trash, they should rather go for archeage, albion , lineage route

[@derhenker1799]

@@escarretada archeage pvp? bruh, gtfo, holy XD

[@GiverrionBG]

Pvp is in very bad state right now. Balance is super bad. Also these boss combat zones which u can enter, do combo and leave outside to safe zone without any time limit is soooo bad and so annyoing

[@abdelrahmanrad]

100 out of 10. MMO of the era for real this time.

[@AomoriWp]

i feel like combat would feel better if every DPS stun such as dark runner stun and ice bound hard hitting skills are skill shots with a targeted area, it just feels wrong that you get stun by someone just pressing a button lets say the gs stun is a targeted area which launches you to the area and stun people aoe, that would be way better since not only gives you more time to react and dodge he needs to land it, same thing with mages and the ice tomb should be an aoe targeted skill shot similar to the bow skill that you need to land, me playing as a mage i feel like these are better changes to skills also making judgement lighting a targeted skill that you need to land so people dont get instantly one shoted by it, i feel like there must be more skill involved in the combat so it does feel more like a fighting game rather than, oh i got stun by a gs as a mage, ok let me go to the bathroom realquick cause unless my purified stone is not in cd i am dead, also feel like staffs blink should have less cd and more range, it is currently not a escape skill, it doesnt matter if you can blink away from someone that can just shadow strike back to you and follow you indefenitely also shadow strike 10s cd vs 30s cd from the smoke screen blink its just ridiculous for me, gs dagger can jump on you initiating with shadow strike and if you dont dodge it assuming you survive if you try to blink away you will not be able to anyway its just dumb

[@lkissame]

a very good expansion

[@copyc4t64]

which server has the most english speaking players in KR TL?

[@ItsGameOva]

I only Care about pve content, is it true you can only do 2 dungeons a day? if so that kills my mood

[@xkingsly]

This is one of the best mmo downside its guild base upside guild pvp is a tone of fun so solo players join a guild stop being shy the community is filled with nice people that will help you

[@keatondaily1208]

super cool!

[@FreeMindInCrowd]

"I give combat a B+" Me being a tierlist enjoyer, oh that's pretty low on today's teirlists scale since it goes D C B A S SS SSS EX and potentionally any other bullshit letter combination at the top tier xD

[@Makendu]

You play to many Mobile games thats not a real scale lmao. It’s D-S

[@Tomi611]

I played the beta, and quite sad about combat update, it's less casual, maybe it will make us quit after end game.Regarding zones, we need more beatiful areas, lot of them are dark and sad. Beatiful areas woudl be better, Looks liek this is also a dark area.

[@SkepticMinds1]

Idk what ppl see in this 2010 mmo. I may be one of those T&L haters, but im saving myself for either Archage 2 or Chrono Odyssey. If both of these games release on time beginning of 2025. this game is dead. Itll make it to december but gl after tht

[@bsoda69]

Share your PC build info Kanon, thanks 🤟🤟 and I'm the 400 like 👍👍😂😂

[@sunrisezone1062]

they need to tone down damage

[@GiverrionBG]

Game is nice but pvp balance is soooo bad. Not enjoyable at all unless you have super high end gear which 80% of casual players wont have and they will just 1 shot eachother. Time to kill is joke. So if someone is looking for pvp game i wouldnt recommend. Not worth the time and grind. And im saying this as fully traited (no runes) t2 staff/dagger. Getting 1 shotted with 17k hp by SNS/GS TANK is insane at this level.

[@Zohangaming95]

When is the 24/7 pvp coming out? And when will this come to NA?

[@triggerwarning5025]

They fix the clunky combat?

[@Fullgrym]

How solo friendly is the game? I mean not 100% solo all the time, treating it like a single-player game, but can I enjoy it to the fullest with PUGs? For example IMO Lost Ark is not a PUG-friendly game, the raids there are impossible unless you happen to get into a farm group where everyone else is massively overgeared. ESO and WoW on the other hand are friendly enough for PUGs where you need some basic knowledge of your class and dungeons/raids and you can easily clear most veteran dungeons/trials in ESO and at least mid-high M+ and heroic raid in WoW.

[@AnomitroMunshi]

game performance decreased after Talandre, facing frequent crash and LAG

[@Reddstarz]

game looks very promising as the new mmorpg to play for a long while BUT it's scary that it's free to play cause you're gonna see a lot of bot train running around. that's my biggest turn down. When you have bots running around it's not even worth playing anymore. the game just feels dead and unplayable. you should bring that to the devs about bots.

[@amazingcabbage39]

Did my first world boss yesterday with Optimized large scale combat turned on i9 12900k 64gb 6000mhz ram 4080 and got bodied. Couldnt even hit the boss. Just got sent back to the main menu w

[@prettylies269]

Shills will say the issue is on your end, but it isnt, the game has insane issues since the update for a lot of people, it has nothing to do with your specs and more to do with NCSoft not having a Test Enviroment to Test Updates before pushing them onto the Live Servers, I had the same Issue since the Patch, and its still present even after over a Week of Maintenance after Maintenance and Hotfix after Hotfix. Kanon also defends NCSofts behaviour to his grave, probably gets paid quite good for all the positive Feedback he gives the Game, even saying that a company that has 20 Years of Experience in the MMO Genre and still encounters such Issues that clearly have to do with the lack of Quality Control and Test Enviroment is perfectly fine, cause other Game Developers have Issues aswell, yet I havnt such Issues with the likes of other MMORPG Veteran Companies in like years.

[@Zlimee]

game looks good, i just don't like the UI, its not that clean

[@romangolob2279]

I think youre too harsh or jaded at this point. I would give the expansion a solid A and we didnt even get all the content from it yet

[@abcdefghimart]

nice video

[@kuroihagane]

The hair is cool, I just need you to ask NCSoft to add real mounts to the game xD Cheers dear one o7

[@CalgarGTX]

Sad it's already in the cringy modern clothes/beach wear/dresses/whatever outfits that look totally out of place with the rest of the world phase

[@PaulikasKarolis]

Is that an outfit in a game? Oh no… 🙁

[@tonnytrumpet734]

Lifeskilling looks very underwhelming in comparison to BDO or WoW

[@cainsalem3544]

I never liked it anyways

[@boyinawig]

kanon your hair is FUCKIN AMAZINNN DONT CUT IT MY DARLINNN

[@baska-]

I just want to be able to compete with the whales in T&L until Ashes' A2 24/7 uptime is out 🙏

[@Pf0scht4]

3 big points sns+wand (pala) nerf dumbest class on every mmo reduce selfhealing... change the endgame rune grinde to open world events ? give more normal dugeons not only 2...

[@nevadabdo]

2

[@graphz07]

all i need is the lineage 2 races with specific race passives .. This would make the games so much more lineage vibes :)

[@Jayseammolegend]

3

[@mlg_maxxi3502]

Its wild that this game launched in its own country, "failed", and is now making MASSIVE changes and updates for the global release. I for one am a proud owner of a early access pack and cant wait to heal the fuck out of you nerds.

[@Bogus_Lecina]

is it p2w?

[@ardenyt2435]

Too much colors,effect and shit on the screen.The hud and every other Asian mmo is like anime.Thats why I stay with Warcraft.

[@kokonutter101]

Please don't get your hair cut, it's nice.

[@SoldierBoy3064]

Bruh don't cut your hair Keep growing it out People are going bald don't take your hair for granted Let it flow... At least consider it

[@uglyfoox8964]

Still p2w?

[@ericvelasquez9819]

1