080: Mike Israetel - Daily Training & GDA supplementation

Another Q&A with Dr. Mike Israetel; training daily to glucose disposal agents.
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04:00 Mikes take on daily training, do we need a rest day?
14:45 What would be the maximal sets a week for the same exercise? How many times a week should we do a certain exercise?
24:15 Inducing large amounts of muscle damage to get past plateaus?
31:45 Glucose Disposal Agents (GDAs) do they have efficacy? Supplement recommendations in general?
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[@ReviveStronger]

Time Stamps: 04:00 Mikes take on daily training, do we need a rest day? 14:45 What would be the maximal sets a week for the same exercise? How many times a week should we do a certain exercise? 24:15 Inducing large amounts of muscle damage to get past plateaus? 31:45 Glucose Disposal Agents (GDAs) do they have efficacy? Supplement recommendations in general?

[@AL3XGZa]

Yesss guys. Mike is the king

[@ReviveStronger]

King of kings!

[@jamesdelaney762]

As a trainer, this is always pure gold.

[@ReviveStronger]

[@stevenmuncy491]

It would be interesting to see the outcome if people managed their sleep as much as they manage their gym splits and supplements.

[@segason6]

Steven Muncy Preach

[@Jovahkiiin]

The neglect on sleep is real

[@ReviveStronger]

Absolutely! There are some quite interesting studies on other athletes though and the impact is astonishing!

[@rodgerbroome]

As a psychologist and athlete, I think that many athletes are simply high-strung folks. But also, the amount of stimulants has been show to wreck sleep hygiene, so pre-workouts and cutting agents will mess with your amount and quality of sleep. Some of this can be offset by herbal strategies, supplements and essential oils. But I think the underlying motivation is that people who lift just like to feel jacked and like to stay in that mental alert and worked-up state.

[@simeoncvetkov2914]

Honey smacks are puffed wheat not corn,though :D

[@ReviveStronger]

Doesn't matter...they still are the shit! :D

[@rogerrichey8807]

Those are corn pops. That's the equivalent of golden nuggets in the states.

[@workoutunleashed]

Once again another super interesting podcast...keep rolling this content out! Many thanks to you Steve and Dr Mike

[@ReviveStronger]

Cheers for always following and supporting our stuff :)

[@kendall9099]

Bravo for having a mostly natural podcast which isn't arrogant about gear. It makes it easy to watch and enjoyable for us who choose to use the special sports supplements.

[@ReviveStronger]

Love hearing that and yeah, I think everyone should have the right to do with their life whatever they want to, as long as they don't harm other's

[@ericmetts2289]

I feel like these Pods you do with Mike are my little secret. Love them

[@ReviveStronger]

That's not too shabby of a secret ;) - Pascal

[@dontdrinkcola]

Weekend = Saved. Thanks Steve !

[@ReviveStronger]

Life=saved ;P

[@traingear9578]

awesome and so real , no bullshit, love it!!

[@ReviveStronger]

Mike at his best

[@michalus09]

Stave on steroids, loose his hair! jk Day on, day off, the best for me. I know that tommorow have a day off, so I go full force and can't wait for the next workout.

[@elkenbuild5996]

Damn I can't wait to listen to this. Steve, Mike, thank you guys both so much for doing these.

[@ReviveStronger]

As always Elkie

[@Kdf_41]

Well this is exactly what I was looking for. Because Dr. Mike Israetel.

[@mutanthorrorshow]

Catching up on some of the podcast, this one is the funniest so far 😂 still educational 💪 PS make sure you watch "Stranger Things" season 3 coming out!

[@ReviveStronger]

Haha, love hearing that :) - Pascal

[@bastis.5104]

Do you think supplementing leucine would be worth it for someone who gets a big part of his protein from lower quality sources? ( Also, is a lower rise in protein synthesis with low quality proteins even the thing that makes certain protein sources "low quality"?)

[@ReviveStronger]

Interesting question and Greg Nuckols did a fantastic article on it. However, I think as long as you stimulate MPS by the highest extent, there's no benefit in additional leucine. And no, MPS is not an indicator of high quality protein

[@bastis.5104]

+Revive Stronger Yea I have actually read that article. Damn so I cant get away with eating crappy proteins.. But thanks for the response😉

[@ReviveStronger]

Hehe, it could all be sooo lovely! ;P

[@bastis.5104]

+Revive Stronger I was truly hoping for some nutrition "real life hack" .. too bad. Just wondering, who would benefit from supplementing leucine then?

[@ReviveStronger]

Just last week, a new study got published on leucine supplementation on its own....no real benefits in a well-nourished environment.

[@gamerchristina1079]

💪💪❤️❤️‼️

[@ReviveStronger]

Thanks! - Coach Jess

[@MoMo-lj7up]

Always a pleasure to listen to mike. The buddhist monk thing at the end killed me :D

[@ReviveStronger]

Haha, yeah, Mike

[@ridgereid7237]

Always wanting to hear from Mike. Keep the awesome content coming Steve.

[@ReviveStronger]

[@jacowanted]

these interviews are FUCKING GOLD

[@ReviveStronger]

Or like bitcoin!

[@Bodybypt]

In regards to frequency of exercises the less experienced and the weaker the individual the more frequent they can train it.

[@ReviveStronger]

Yes, but the less experienced don't need that much volume/frequency to grow either. Only because you can, doesn't mean you should. - Coach Pascal

[@Bodybypt]

@@ReviveStronger context is key here. Example- I would have an athlete if I had a physique athlete in the early stages do a full body routine. Why wouldn't you give them the best exercise for a body part and let them learn and get stronger on that before moving to the 2nd & 3rd best exercise. I hope that came off correctly. Have you ever spoken with a track coach before? I would love to chat with you on this subject!

[@taylorcarpenterpersonaltra2345]

Is there a way to mark these videos as seen on youtube?

[@ReviveStronger]

Good question but I can't give you a definite answer

[@niuredblack]

Oh hell ya!!!!!!!!

[@ReviveStronger]

Hell F*****G YEAH!

[@gingerbreadboy]

3 years too late but Smacks are Sugar Puffs in the UK.

[@ReviveStronger]

Hahaha is it ever too late to talk about food though? xD - Coach Jess

[@Jovahkiiin]

Have you and pascal done much about sleep?

[@ReviveStronger]

Could you elaborate on this?

[@Jovahkiiin]

Sorry Steve, i was being abit broad. 1. Sleep Deprivation, how does it effect training, acute and chronic? 2. Chronic lack of sleep over time, how much do you find it impacts your recovery and adaptations from training. 3. Quality vs Quantity of sleep? 4. How do you ensure your getting quality sleep 5. Anything about circadian rhythm, how it effects sleep efficacy. 6. How much do you and pascal sleep personally? Anything along those lines.. In my personal experience, evening with my diet and training on point, lack of sleep nullified my gains quite substantially, primarily strength; everything felt heavy.

[@ReviveStronger]

We have this article revivestronger.com/2017/04/26/10-ways-get-better-sleep-today/ And also, without spoilering too much, Dan Pardi will come on the podcast and talk all about sleep! And he is THE MAN when it comes to sleep. But yeah, sleep deprivation can just destroy all of your progress and performance...extremely much!

[@Jovahkiiin]

Revive Stronger Awesome steve, looking forward to more podcasts mate.

[@carlosoliver1887]

Hello to RP and RS. My current bodyweight and set point is around 85kg, not fat but certainly not lean, my highest has been 98kg (a fatter 216), and the lowest when I started after a month of doing weights and Kung fu at the same time at age 14 (61kg). I'm 28 years old and 1.73mts. After patellar tendinitis Im trying to be a bit smarter with my training, not just "winging it". I don't plan to get any much heavier than 220. Do you think it's a good idea to start with a higher frequency per body part, and decrease frequency as I approach my goal to a minimum of 2 (or 1.5 for quads or cases where I go over my MRV), or is it just a personal/gender issue which I have to find (as with MV, MEV, etc...)???

[@Jovahkiiin]

Frequency is somewhat personal, based on how relative it is to training age, if you have less than 5 years of solid training experience, i would take the higher frequency approach. i think high frequency training allows you to split volume between sessions in a more manageable manner, the difference between high and low frequency training isn't night and day providing total weekly volume is of a similar amount. Overtime you may have to adapt to slightly lower frequencies, but until you get so advanced that your causing so muscle disruption and stimulus in a single session that you can justify using a lower frequency. Keep most body parts around 1.5-2, and smaller groups like biceps and rear deltoids that aren't exposed to huge amount of muscle damage and mechanic stress like bigger muscle groups like the pectorals, keep those smaller muscle groups around 3-4. As long as you use those general frequency recommendations and adapt your volume progressively through your training blocks and manage fatigue appropriately, you should do just fine.

[@ReviveStronger]

Miguel, best place to ask questions like these is in our facebook group: facebook.com/revivestronger/

[@carlosoliver1887]

Thanks a ton! I have trained most of my years in the once a week range, I will be experimenting with similar weekly MEV's to MRV's, and adjusting based on performance and recovery/soreness.

[@Jovahkiiin]

Glad i was of help, also, definitely recommend you join the revivestronger facebook group, lots of knowledgeable individuals who are willing to help, you'll usually get a fairly comprehensive response.

[@alejandromata4086]

Loved this podcast!

[@ReviveStronger]

Love that you loved it

[@jsmithes]

Life is good 😍

[@ReviveStronger]

It most definitely is!

[@threethrushes]

Playing with one's physiology by taking self-prescribed pharmacological agents is extremely, extremely dangerous. In the UK (and most Western European countries), metformin is a prescription-only medicine and used as first-line treatment for people with type 2 diabetes. I respect Mike, but talking so nonchalantly about taking pharmacological drugs for healthy people is playing very fast and loose.

[@MohrAvaMohr]

Gerhard Symons I strongly disagree. The fact that something is „prescription only“ doesn’t mean it is dangerous per se. Especially when someone is educated well in terms of what he chooses to take. I know many many doctors personally that do not know shit when it comes to hormones etc, I was the one teaching them and yes, it should be the other way round actually. In Reality, it often is not. Don’t get me wrong, you need to think through everything you decide to do and not just pop pills like candy, BUT people should be free to make educated decisions on what they want to do with their bodies and as long as they do, I see 0 problems with it. Especially when prescription meds aren’t by definition dangerous and doctors not by definition qualified to „prescribe“ things or treat things.

[@MohrAvaMohr]

sasholsuma as outlined above, I completely understand his attitude. If it takes years to learn all this, I guess there should be more knowledgeable docs out there. Imo trust in the medical field and medical education is totally overblown, most of them are generalists at best but nowhere near specialists with applicable knowledge. If people find a doc like that, good for them though, not saying they don’t exist.

[@NathanDoyle11]

sasholsuma his fiancé has also recently graduated med school, I believe he knows a thing or two about the pharma he discusses. What are your fears here specifically regarding metformin? That someone will go hypo? Lactic acidosis? I agree people shouldn't use metformin (or anything else, including dietary supplements) without taking necessary precautions, but there are many more potentially harmful substances which are perfectly legal and more easily attainable than metformin. I just don't see it as being a bit of a risk as you make it out to be. Just my 2c.

[@MohrAvaMohr]

Exactly! Metformin is FAR from being dangerous. Even going hypo from it is pretty damn unlikely.

[@sinny694]

34:40 direct quote "it is a powerful drug and I wouldnt just buy it and start taking it. you got to do it in concert with a very experienced coach preferably a medical doctor because it has some pretty big downsides." He then goes on to talk about its effects on the liver and ketoacidosis. I wouldnt call that "talking so nonchalantly" about pharma as you say.