100: The Deload Roundtable - w/ Eric Helms, Mike Israetel & Menno Henselmans

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Timestamps: 02:38 Eric defines what a Deload is 05:00 Menno talks about how he implements deloads with his clients and himself 12:16 Mike shares his thoughts on deloads 21:29 Eric responds to Mike & Menno's view and approach to deload 27:16 Menno shares his thoughts on Eric's & Mike's response and defends his standpoint and brings up connective tissue damage 33:48 Mike comments on an autoregulative and undulating approach to deloading 38:55 Menno responds to Mike's criticism of reactive deloads 42:09 Eric talks about how to take care of nutrition during deloads 48:47 Mike gives his thoughts on how to optimally take care of nutrition 55:04 Menno talks about how he structures nutrition during deloads

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;P This time though, you don't have to wait that long until the next big episode comes ;)

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Massive value bomb! Thanks Steve, Mike, Eric, and Menno. See you guys at some of the upcoming events 💪

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More to come Mario! ;)

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Haha, we hope to make it to that number one day :D Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching! - Coach Jess

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Mike is so fucking funny lol “captain America” 😂 this is awesome. Only a few minutes in but just had to comment.

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Brendan! Hope you were able to make it through the entire episode ;)

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These roundtables are so informative... Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.

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And thanks for listening :)

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Absolutely great! So cool to see these guys do a round table and being so generous with their time. Much appreciated!

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Wow! Steve/Pascal, I started watching the podcasts at around episode 20 or so, I watched them all! This is a big milestone! I learned so much from them and I want to thank you for all the free information (probs to all the guests, especially Mike of course). No #posttraining for me this time, took a really low volume month, I needed a meantal break from training, I'll probably get back in 1-2 weeks but for now it's information time!!

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12:58 made me laugh! I always thought Helms resembled Cap lol

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Hahaha, I immediately have his voice in my head :D - Pascal

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OMG I've been waiting for soo long to this episode. Currently listening in the army trying to maintain the most I have

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Yes yes yes!

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I KNEW YOU WERE GONNA PUT THIS UP FOR EP 100! NIIIIICE!

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Hope you like it!

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Absolutely bang on! Congrats Steve on the 100!

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Cheers Finn!

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Congrats on the 100th episode Steve! This was an amazing watch and listen!!!

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Thanks a tonne!

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It’s interesting to hear Mike’s opinion on Fitbit back then, and seeing him using it regularly now.

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I don't remember his opinion back then nor how he 's using it now, but pretty sure there is a rationale behind it haha - Coach Jess

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Great episode. Congrats on 100

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Thanks Brett!

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Thank goodness for this video, i was looking for nutrition during a deload and i found what i needed 🙌 here

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Glad it was helpful! Thanks for listening! - Coach Jess

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Great podcast guys! Revive stronger for life!

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Not knowing when to take a break and why has been hands down the biggest impediment to my progress. There are so many things given on how to train, but hardly anything on how you need to give your body a break in order to advance! Awesome vid! ...And the Australia accent was bloody attrocious! Lol. You have to speak with balls!

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Hahaha, Mike

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Congrats on 100th. Great episode.

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Thanks Emily :)

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FUCK YEAH STEVE !!!! ERIC, MIKE AND MENNO?! Can't get any better than this!!!

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Yeah buddy!!

[@benjaminnygrenlohndorf976]

Great video, I've been looking for some of the info I got in this video!

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Perfect timing then I guess :)

[@jeffbunnell9961]

I gotta agree with Eric and mike on this one. Reactive deloads do seem to require a more hands-on coaching perspective. Planned deloads are good for a simple guy like me.That being said I agree with menno on a wide variety of topics and watch or read a lot of his content. All of them are great guys.

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I think, that's the spirit! Acknowledging what others have to say and then find out what works for you.

[@jeffbunnell9961]

good timing on this episode btw. my deload was planned for next week after a mesocycle in which i trained in about a 30% calorie deficit. i was wondering if i should stay hypocaloric through the deload but it seems iso makes more sense.

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Sick line up! Like before I even listen to it.

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And there will be more ;)

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and It's here!!!

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it is!

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52:21 - 52:26 aussie accent on the money 😂

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Approved by many by now, hehe - Pascal

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Ooooo Nice. thank for the upload.

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Enjoy!

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Amazing! Thank you Steve 💪

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And thank you too

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Great material as always Steve. Congrats on the 100th episode and here's hoping for 100 more! It would be good to hear Mike and Eric flesh out their training approach during cuts at some point. I understand they now favour keeping volume up but I'm unclear on the specifics. Do they for example maintain the volume-load total (sets x reps x load), but decrease load whilst increasing sets and/or reps to achieve this, or something else?

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Thanks a tonne Alex!

[@jordik889]

I'm also quite interested in Menno's way of deloading for powerlifting. Does any one know his methods for this?

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This shit was so funny and informative at the same time. Love it :)

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Awesome to hear, thanks for watching :) - Coach Jess

[@GR-uc1gq]

How long should a deload be? And how often Should you have them? I may have missed that timestamp

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What I like is a full training week and every 5th week. However, of course this can look quite different for other people but as a general rule of thumb - Pascal

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I came to learn more about deloads. Learned so much more ! (Including how to enter the Netherlands 😂)

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Hahahahahaha!

[@mertonhirsch4734]

My thoughts during cutting is that sets of 12-20 waste reps because you won't reach 80% of momentary maximum force until you have done until you've already done 5-10 reps which means you needlessly deplete muscle glycogen. Going straight to 6-8 reps probably doesn't waste any glycogen on unproductive volume.

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Finally!!! Yes!!! 👍

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I deload every week with eccentric training as my exercise

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I do 300 walking lunges

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good stuff!

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Cheers Vincent!

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Great host even for a pommy 😆👍🙏🏻

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Lolz, hahaha - Pascal

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Steve what do you think about reverse pyramid training, i see ur not using it at all, do you think it o ly works on high responders to low volume and high intensity?

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It's a programming tool. Nothing more, nothing less.

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A few timestamps missing at the end :-P

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Haha, shit, you're right^^ - Coach Pascal

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As predicted, Thanos (Mike) ends up defeating Captain America and Winter Soldier

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But! Is this the end?? TBC

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I think the real talk starts at 57:00 😉🤣

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Hahaha, man it's long time ago already! - Pascal

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57:12 lol mike... this used to be a nice proper christian podcast.

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Lolz

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I was in the middle of a squat wet at the end when they started talking about Fitbit and ferocious masturbation. I almost died.

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Now you know what the next roundtable is about :D

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It was an interesting conversation. I learned a lot from the episode, maybe most important is that you may blow your MRV listening to metal and getting pumped during sessions, but you may also blow a disc listening to Mike during sessions.

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57:00 🤣🤣❤️❤️‼️

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Thanks! - Coach Jess

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mike nailed that aussie accent

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Haha, yeah, more and more confirm!

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As an aussie, I can say that aussie accent was pretty accurate haha

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So far, we had only positive confirmations ;P

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Mike cracks me the fuck up

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I can relate :D

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"good old fashioned barbell training just like grandpa used to do"

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You got it - Pascal

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ahahah How funny thats a spot on aussie accent!!! LOOOOL

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I told Mike and Eric that some Australians already deemed it as acceptable ;P

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Eric Helms recommended to take a look at someones work but in the audio you cant actually catch the name. its around 22mins in

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You mean john Kiely?

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My saying ;)

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Is Morocco the optimal place to hold my lovers hand?

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Lolz, hahaha, give it a try. I guess you'll find out ;) - Pascal

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Yaaassss #HypeTrain

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52:15 - yes. 100% australian! ahhahaha

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Haha, more and more confirmations

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50 mins Major key

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Not just 50min, the entire message of this episode :) - Pascal

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@@ReviveStronger Agreed

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Good ol barbell training with Grandpa 💪🍆

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52:19 Fucking lol. And I am Aussie

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Some other Australians already said it's acceptable ;P

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Do full body 4 times a week and on non training days go rumming and tell me after 4 weeks that there is no overtraining

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Way to go - Pascal

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Dat ozzy accent tho!

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:D

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Proxy of masturbation habits. I am dead. lmao

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Classic^^

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As an Australian, I have definitely heard worse accents than Mike's attempt there. Not bad.

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Haha, I told Mike and Eric that some Australians already deemed it as acceptable ;P