REWORKING OATHBREAKER [Opinion Piece]

[@Gustavo9831_Official]

Just bait revenge smh

[@BurningCookie]

Just feint revenge

[@liqaKnight]

Just stroke it on revenge

[@YeetusCletusDeletusmyFetus]

Making it a silence mechanic instead would actually be pretty cool, and have actual versatility without being op as shit. Imagine oathbreaking a WM in a team fight lol

[@Ryanfsg]

ubisoft give this man a job already

[@RAPTORREX_]

i wish

[@Meatman-1527]

This game is such a buggy and unbalanced mess this man’s kids would have jobs.

[@craftywindow9916]

@@RAPTORREX_you dont. 😂

[@Rynacanth]

opinion endorsed

[@Kapman2003]

New idea: what if oath breaker was a gun and bp just kill the opponent right then and there

[@RAPTORREX_]

get this man a job

[@Kapman2003]

@@RAPTORREX_ me coming in the building: “Ubisoft I know the stock price are going down but Ive got the get rich or go broke scheme” forming up scams like Ed Edd and Eddy

[@hunterwarden9307]

Honestly, I kind of agree with this.... Being a BP main, it's sad to understand the pain of Revenge canceling like Oath breaker does, but to have it instead just cancel players feats can be more fair and balanced towards BP's play style as well. But hey, We'll see if Ubisoft actually takes good ideas (like this one) and do something with them....

[@johnpaulnotjean_1st]

Finna fist fight the 22 dislikers

[@memesareanswerforeverythin9927]

may you rest in pieces

[@EnKnighted]

‼️‼️

[@zivapet6365]

2:13 as a rep 63 BP main I love this idea also I think you need to be locked into someone to “ silence” them. I don’t think you should be able to “ silence” someone from a mile away. This feat needs to be used mid fight not before. Great idea!!!

[@Icannotstopweeping]

The concept of a feat only acting on a player your locked into is fucking genius

[@RAPTORREX_]

For honor players Try not to Hate people for having opinions challange (literally impossible).

[@EnKnighted]

🐟

[@LeGabrielMan]

my opinion (correct) your opinion (blasphemy)

[@isaiahwilliams5988]

(Raptorrex, hating someone who made oath breaker how it is (their a for honor player too)

[@louisedouard322]

Never forget when one of the devs really said “JUst bAiT REvENgE” like my brother in Christ do you ply your one game

[@I_only_use_melee]

And as I said in the BP controversial vid. Give the man likes he should definitely be recommended as a first search in the for honor category. Go forth lads and do this man proud.

[@joshuabartlett7204]

I like this it goes from a lets feed to a major game changer if used correctly but I think it should last 30 or 35 seconds

[@RaulMemendez]

4 minutes and I'm already here, I love your videos bro keep it up

[@sprucegoose3804]

The idea of making Oath breaker work like a silence is an interesting change because it also opens up other mechanics. What comes to mind without putting too much thought into it is "taunt" which in for honor, could force a lock on to someone for a short amount of time, or "slow" which could effect the movement speed of a hero making them easy to chase, like nuxia's third tier, or maybe the slow can make an opponents next attack come out a litle slower. Maybe a "root" effect that can hold someone in place for a short amount of time. It opens up some possibilities that could really shake up the for honor philosphy on how feats are implimented.

[@I_only_use_melee]

Hell yeah like goal achieved and now we have this vid. Oathbreaker honestly should be reworked glad to see your take on this. Yall should sub to this for he is doing God's work. Edit: Thank you for pinning the comment raptor you deserve the community's support for the content you provide. ❤

[@westonflame9702]

As someone who mostly uses passives anyway, I wouldn’t mind this change. As it wouldn’t affect me. Whereas current oathbreaker can take a long walk of a short pier.

[@Bruik_Blaine36]

Oooo, maybe it could prevent all feats from occurring temporarily, like no nobu increased damage, no auto-revive, etc, i actually think thats a good idea

[@Beanut8370]

Absolutely better than current Oath breaker! FORWARD THIS!

[@someonewhohadadream8578]

Hopefully ubi gets this idea in their "Griphon" heads

[@swag_rahji8304]

Love the aferra bit great video

[@Al-aabir]

Idea: Oath breaker emoves revenge itself but gives the enemy full sheild.

[@timtimber5271]

Would still have the same issue of just spamming attacks at them with no repercussions cause they can’t pop revenge. The shield will just get deleted. I guess it would depend on how long the revenge removal lasts

[@exokirby8490]

I didn’t watch yet but id rework oathbreaker to simply make armored health take more damage. Keeps its “Identity” as marking armor health to be destroyed but won’t be so overwhelming.

[@justing888]

Best idea so far to change oathbreaker ggs

[@davids9164]

I think the fact that its a 3rd slot feat is the biggest issue tbh but i love your idea, silence would be game changer but still lets you fight it out. My suggestion: When i think of the name oathbreaker, i think of someone like jamie from GOT who killed his king soo i think a feat that would make all friendly interactions act as enemy interactions(friendly fire damage reduction removed and all for example) for someone or if its tier 4 THE WHOLE ENEMY TEAM is a cool concept for bp.They would have to team fight and position differently with a handicap of the sort. Love your vids and community poles bro, keep em coming❤

[@cubical1510]

God finally a place I feel heard, I love Ocelotl a lot because I've been wanting an Aztec hero ask my friends how long I've been wanting one, but his dumb "GET OVER HERE!" makes him easy to hate. What I was hoping for is a quicker death whistle animation that marks every enemy visible, disable enemies from sprinting and gives Ocelotl's heavy and zone attacks bleed damage. Should be able to reach every enemy even outside his radius. I would call it stupid but honestly this feels good enough but idk im typing this around 2am so

[@OwO-nk1zv]

that does seem like a good idea and it wouldnt be too game breaking because, if a BP used a oathbreaker on you, then for a couple of seconds you will have to rely on your skills instead of feats (depending on who youre playing as) honestly i really like that idea

[@CulltureShock]

Turning it into a feat that Silences people is actually a really cool idea

[@pale6383]

As well as a sort of feat silence, I would also recommend it caps characters stamina (Make it so their stamina doesnt go above its 70% max or smth) as it would still make Characters who rely on their moveset more than their feats also really on edge, especially those with shit stamina preservation

[@wanhedasbro2194]

Couldnt agree more with this idea, love your stuff mate 👌

[@Kasaron]

I think the proper addendum to your idea is it puts all gears on cool down. Doesn't disable them persay, but just resets the feat.

[@jatbird855]

a very cool and funny interaction this could have if both teams had bp one of the bp's could predict that the other bp is going to silence them or their teammate in fight and silence the other bp to stop them from silencing someone on their team

[@juiceboxbzrk]

Silence is a pretty good idea, on the other side of that coin i like the idea of it placing someones feats back on half cooldown

[@An0maly_16]

Honestly a silence mechanic would be much better than what we have now. I like your idea of adding more thinking to the game, honestly needs it lmao

[@buffgamer101]

I do like the idea of oath breaker stopping passive and active feats. It would be really interesting to stop a ocelotl from respawning or taking away medjay's tier one boost. I would also suggest a banner like oath breaker remove shield inside the area and returning when outside. This would have the same issue but would definitely allow someone to stall longer, especially if the time it takes to place is not super quick.

[@majormaxor7592]

The suggested rework is almost a great idea, but it has 1 core problem: BP will become a must pick hero, even more so than other meta heroes. Plus, a team of 4 BPs will completely shut down the opponent.

[@morte2504]

Imo making it a passive feet that grants increased dmg against shields would be second best (to removing it entirely lel) Edit: but your idea is kinda fire too ngl

[@Sulphyrous]

Tbh I'd like a perk that gives BP health on flip. It feels like all the modern heros get feats that bake into their moveset in one way or another, for example kyoshen being rewarded with bleed and healing if you time a guard or crushing counter. If BP healed from flip, people would be less likely to dogpile them. That or make thrilling comeback on more champs to survive getting dogpiled.

[@Speakland]

We can just make it prevent gaining shields for 10 seconds or so as a debut on enemy, but if you have missed a window and opponent have gained shields, there is nothing you can do about it

[@jkili4070]

Excellent solution I’d love to see a Warlord with auto-revive and wait the entire match just to the cancel it.

[@doomscorp8122]

i like the idea of a silence, but probably not for bp as it would remove oathbreakers identity, bp is THE shield guy, so i would like to see it reflected still in oathbreaker, my counter idea is still make it best used against revenge, but make it so your stronger instead of them being weaker. oathbreaker remains an active feat, upon activation you mimic the amount of shields your target has, these shields last for 10 seconds. so you esentially get your own revenge shield instead of just saying "fuck you" to their revenge, I think this would keep oathbreaker strong, and in black priors identity, while not feeling unfair from the anti-ganker's side.

[@sf12394]

Honestly a good change would be to make oathbreaker like corruption blade, where you have to land an attack to activate it. At least then I could parry it.

[@SharpGamingN]

I think it would be cool and definitely less op but he would be even more annoying he would just be the sombra of for honor

[@BuffLawbro]

I really like this idea. I’m a rep 64(iirc?) black prior and I would prefer this over the one we have

[@Goldenwolf71052]

This is great. I play bp alot and i would personally love a passive feat to replace oathbreaker that allows you to gain health when flipping opponents and you gain more the more you flip. I think it might work as there is counter play to his flip. If anyone dislikes this idea or disagrees, i completely understand. No hate, love you all ❤

[@curtissweeney5211]

They could also make it an aoe around bp that makes yourself and allies do double damage to shields.

[@gage_the_grim]

Civil in the comments, mah riot, nah but your funny man hope you have a great day.

[@allderan5337]

It would be a way to counter warmonger's 1st and 4th feats and hito 4th in breach on the defender side.. so i'm all for it.

[@kyzerbuhnzi6403]

As a Warlord main who gets revenge constantly… Yeah this is how you do it

[@madgritop9774]

I support this purely because it would create a way to deal with Last Laugh without needing to not kill them until they can be executed

[@tonyolsson3880]

I like that idea of stopping them from using feats, tho it needs to be cearful or you just get sombra from ow which not many people liked. My thoughts i had watching this video (dont know why but i did). But to not focus on shields at all and only the revenge. You active it like warmommy's first feat. Once you hit an enemy their revenge last maybe 6 or 7 seconds instead of 8. So they still have their shield and it's not oppressive like the current one. That means they still get to use revenge (when it fucking works of course). Idk how this would work on paper or in action so it's just a spontaneous thought.

[@RAPTORREX_]

sombras issues never came from hacking peoples abilities, it lead to frustration but thats not the problem with sombras kit. the problem was sombra running in while invisible hacking someone shooting them with their whole mag and the moment she was gonna die she would TP on a hacked health pack and do it over and over again

[@tonyolsson3880]

@@RAPTORREX_ well yes that was definitely the bigger problem. But when she could lock you out of your abilities for multiple seconds was absolutely frustrating. As a sombra main at the end of ow1 i got a lot of hate for every part of her kit. I dont think it would be bad to have your change. Anything is 100% better than what is already there.

[@Cascade92]

"Your next heavy removes 50 shield from the opponent" "Your attacks do 50% shield and 50% health damage" "Your opponent slowly loses shield" "Your opponent takes 30% more damage" All work and seem pretty viable lol

[@puresaltgoodness4227]

I think oathbreaker should instead of just taking away revenge, it should take their revenge bar (that they currently have) and then transfer it to you so you get revenge

[@superchargedsparks]

I had the idea of at the cost of 15% of the BP health it takes away 25 shield

[@angelguardianpeace-lf6fl]

I would say just make it so that it pauses it for a 3 seconds then reactivates after that time

[@zakariaelhimer1325]

Not a bad idea actually

[@GameKing_22kings]

👍 👍 I endorse this message.

[@scurrystopthat9985]

As a BP main, I refuse to use oathbreaker, and tbh if this was how it worked, I'd use it

[@ChrisCoggan21]

While this is a good idea for a new feat i feel it’s too far from the original intent of the feat so it’s not even oathbreaker anymore, my nerf would be to make it either a passive or activation where black prior gets life steal off of damaging shields, I’m leaning towards passive

[@BotijaoPelado]

with this ideia would make the second ever way to out play the 4th feat last laugh

[@joshuabartlett7204]

But how do you always post while I'm in class :(

[@ВсеволодСорокин-ш9ю]

What if it had a cost like his first feat? Imagine if to get oathbreaker to work you would have to drain like 30 of your own hp. And mb even make it so it lasts some time, so you could be knocked out of the action and you’ve already spent like 15 hp

[@NineInchNeckbeard]

Holy shit this is genius

[@Thatonewebbyboi]

Saw oathbreaker, thought it was a baldurs gate video, disappointed but watched anyways 10/10

[@Drack86]

so it would be like obi-wans ability in battlefront 2. I like that

[@LordJazz]

Me using this on cool down every chance i get during a breach game on the same person start to finish. (Mindlessly grinding minions to get feats) To make them hate me. That person may or may not be a Valkyrie because there's nothing more i hate than Valkyrie. They are so boring to fight.

[@MomMan-b9w]

What if oathbreaker gave you a wizard wand and lets you summon meteors to eviscerate your enemies with

[@som3bode577]

"Featbreaker" > "Funbreaker"

[@lucadepiro4110]

what if it also shut down on going feats? let’s say someone activates fear itself, oath breaker would not only prevent the opponent from using any other feat, but it would also end the already active fear itself. i think that would be cool and still pretty balanced

[@RAPTORREX_]

no that would be a little too broken in my opinion, it would take the timing out of using it and just a "ill use it now i guess" button

[@lucadepiro4110]

@@RAPTORREX_ well yeah, but i feel like if you could only use it to prevent feats, it would never be properly used. most of the time you get fire flasked or javalined or really any major feat, is happens while you’re fighting someone so you can’t fo anything about it. also i think it should be a little more noob friendly. sure an experienced player could make good use of it, but the average player has no idea of when opponents have feats

[@Crestfallen_Warrior]

Hey! Hey, where'd you get that helmet? I need that.

[@alahakbaa5745]

I said you where vars for the for honor comunity, NOW YOU'VE BECOME VARS

[@RAPTORREX_]

oh no :(

[@alahakbaa5745]

@@RAPTORREX_ next time you betray us you better fooking mention me

[@KingofCrimsonKings]

Honestly, this would be annoying too. I feel like in FH there shouldn't be anything that can take away stuff from you. I think oathbreaker should just become a passive for BP , maybe something like he does 10% more damage to shields.

[@knightium]

make it so when he uses it the game closes and boots up a better game

[@sanswithagun7368]

i really love this idea, ubisoft make it real

[@erebustv5671]

Way better but its what black prior hella strong

[@SurrealEuphoria]

I think you’re on the right track but not with feats. Imo, it should be a feat that silences revenge activation for 10 seconds but can’t stop already active revenge or revenge build-up.

[@RAPTORREX_]

i would like that idea but 10 seconds of not popping revenge youre basically kinda dead.

[@SurrealEuphoria]

@@RAPTORREX_ It depends on the level of play and circumstances, which is is hard to balance around. 10 seems like a good number to me, but I’m one of those players who prefer to light attack and hit me during a gank, rather than the enemy, so maybe there should be other variables, such as the number of opponents or amount of health contributing to the timer.

[@mintypickle4]

But you can bait revenge and counter the fun breaker remember?

[@Sam_Hyde_Apologist]

RAP daddy notice me another good change!

[@RAPTORREX_]

i notice you sir :)

[@calebreynolds9318]

Had a 4 man death rolling BP match last night.. let’s say.. I felt bad for the enemies :( Oathbreaker is soooooo busted

[@peterbakai5614]

I just want a passive indtead that makes me deal motr dmg the more people i flip

[@Kodiamoso]

Ok this is good 🎉

[@Sepulchurre]

this is so true, can we please grind VG into a fine paste? thanks

[@morle2009]

I fully agree a slice mechanic would be huge!!! It’s essentially a MOBA already, why not push it for this route?

[@flxstered]

wait until be finds out about revenge bait mechanic

[@RAPTORREX_]

im not good enough to do that mechanic

[@flxstered]

@@RAPTORREX_ we should ask JC how to do it

[@HoonterMaximus]

"Do you like Afeera?" HELL NO Give me this new form of power. *Also I think it would be cool if it could negate things like Fear Itself mid activation. But then I would have to ask,, where would you personally draw the line? Could you negate catapult mid activation for example? Or even the bow and arrow if they committed to charging it? Or if a teammate DID get hit by the free "I'm ledging you" button, could you activate it to prevent that from happening midflow?

[@Vox-Rox-Omalox]

Well shit, this was what I said back in the discord server a few days ago! So you already know I agree full-heartedly

[@sumafa6857]

Asking for your warden fashion Day 14

[@labodge7322]

best rework for that feat

[@BlahoMark15]

I fight can fall over fast so 20 might be excessive. Make it 15 and i'm game.

[@kurookami7327]

I like the idea but I feel like you’re just making a new feat and slapping the oath breaker name on it. It’s not really a “re work” it would be more of a replacement. I could see only taking half or a quarter of revenge shields being a good nerf

[@incognitosquiddim4000]

My only question would be how it works with active feats like juggernaut or sharpen blades. would it just shut it down immediately or would it have no effect since the feat was activated prior. I think either or would work but it would change the response. Popping the feat early to ensure a BP cannot stop it, or saving it until the duration is over since it's negated by the oathbreaker.

[@RAPTORREX_]

if the feat is active prior it wouldnt effect it. if it were to clense feats it would be like day 1 oathbreaker, where you just wait for them to use it and then hit 1 button.

[@incognitosquiddim4000]

@@RAPTORREX_ That makes more sense thank you

[@NicholasJones-cq5gt]

While I like the idea of silence, feats generally go off a lot less than... LoL abilities. Another downside is that you would have no idea if oathbreaker has any impact on how it altered a fight, nor what feats your opponent has unlocked, making something of a guessing game. Theres also the fact that BPs other feats are... Honestly pretty bad. Umbral is worse phalanx unless you are in a niche situation, ward is great but most of the time 2hp per sec for sitting in a slow gaurdbreakable stance isnt the greatest option for 1v1s or team fights, and please for the love of God buff the range of sinister shield, as the only times I find myself wanting to use the feat is to protect an ally while I run into the fight Edit:Or at least make it so I dont lose a bar and have the feat go on cooldown when my teammate dies because it takes fucking ages to grant the shield Edit: Trash the comment about not knowing what feats are on, I never knew that was a thing. However not knowing if oathbreaker affected a fight still stands.

[@Blurgamer17]

1:44 Eww... Brother, _EUGH!_ 🤢🫸 What's that!? What's that, brother?

[@RAPTORREX_]

im sorry :(

[@MidnightZoro]

I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this but they could make it a passive that BP does bonus damage to shields

[@RAPTORREX_]

no i think thats fine, it would still be very situational if it wasnt against someone in revenge

[@Dargon5-pw]

Is that ace attorney music if so based

[@RAPTORREX_]

it is

[@plxxyaa]

fuck it bro oathbreaker now grants full shield over a period of time starts with 20% and tickes 5% per amt of time ( idk im not a game dev ) and u can aim it for a teammate

[@rossalbane7743]

Imo they got rid of the wrong half of oathbreaker

[@2345Z]

In the last video you showed another feat of BP next to oathbreaker that people didn't like, for some reason you didn't elaborate on that other feat.

[@RAPTORREX_]

its because i cant, the feat itself is fundementally broken but nerfing it again would make it terrible. its stuck in limbo

[@theangryimp1345]

For honor has power creep full stop... plenty of hero's need addressing all at once...corruption is another joke move that ruined breach. But also core movesets are broken aswell. It needs help big time. This rework would work but is pointless in a world with so meny broken moves.

[@PikemanYT]

The like to dislike ratio 💀 Good take tho

[@RAPTORREX_]

i didnt even realize that lmao

[@RAPTORREX_]

nevermind i just realized youtubes dislike extension was lying lmao. its not acurate but that was a big scare lmao

[@PikemanYT]

@@RAPTORREX_ oh wait yeah nvm lol

[@adsfddsdfsfsdsasofsavgdhua4879]

just lock in and stop needing revenge lol

[@gooseofwar1230]

Would swapping what they removed (only preventing shield gain not removing on cast) work in your opinion if they kept it shield based? I haven't played for honor recently so I can't say much.

[@RAPTORREX_]

no same problem still applies, it would be so situational and there would be instances where you bring oath breaker and not a single person has a shield based feat.

[@gooseofwar1230]

@RAPTORREX_ honestly fair, should definitely get reworked then. I only ever use passive feats when I play cause I forget to use actives, so I don't even know what it's like to play with Ob, so imma trust the people that do.