RG35XX GarlicOS vs Stock (Should You Upgrade?)

[@TechWares]

Anbernic should hire the developer of GarlicOS

[@RGGeek]

Yeah, but they say, "Why hire him when he can work for us for free?" *sigh*

[@emagiampa]

​@@RGGeek Ahahahahah! Right!

[@wally19]

@@RGGeek lol

[@jessequick6158]

It's sad that stock is better than garlic.... Garlic needs to make their own save/load state instead of crappy retroarch, and need to add button sounds! And theme music on every them or at least most

[@Ryoskie]

I've recently ordered a RG35XX, and after watching this one... I think I'll enjoy the StockOS for now before upgrading to the GarlicOS.

[@PokeBurnPlease]

I prefer the stock cause i dont have to install 20 million things and put in roms etc. only thing i am missing there is a fast forward option in GBA. Pokemon is really not enjoyable that way anymore.

[@OverTheShoulderGaming]

Awesome video dude! For now I’m more inclined towards the stock OS, as GarlicOS can’t seem to detect some of my PS1 games (it could be me) as well the occasional bugs 😅

[@RGGeek]

Enjoy Stock!

[@m4rckzer042]

Same, some ps1 games cant play on garlic os

[@frostreaper1607]

On Garlic OS the Bios folder needs to be in the Roms folder.

[@Eh_814]

I had the same problems. Garlic gamefolder is PS. On stock OS its PS1. So you need PS inside of Roms. Also it is neccessary games aren't in any subdirectories.

[@wally19]

I have the same issues, tested Batorcera and Garlic, and both look great and have lot of features compared, but performance and compativility feels better using stock.

[@ARMIN.NA75]

Can stock os run games like garlic os?i mean there is any diffrence between them to runnig games?

[@blakestrother5122]

Sorry one last thing. I think the biggest difference between GarlicOS and the stock is that when you change viewing options on stock, it essentially applies those setting to any game you play after unless you manually change it again. I have had little problem with that but I think for enthusiast who may switch between a couple different systems regularly, Garlic OS is more convenient cause you can do all kinds of saving settings for systems and even down to specific games.

[@RGGeek]

Interesting, thanks for the info!

[@alleygh0st]

how are you supposed to make the 2nd sd card work on stock os? When I put it in, everything is slowed down and it doesn't even find the extra roms

[@johnmendoza161]

As a casual player looking to enjoy the original Pokémon games and Tetris, am I good to just stay with the stock firmware? Having a MAC, I’m wondering if the process would be difficult…thx in advance for anyone’s advice

[@koduck865]

Certainly. For a casual player, stock firmware is enough. Garlic is more suitable for enthusiasts. Best wishes.

[@danielburns4630]

Can’t believe GarlicOS has NO SEARCH Function? Why? That makes me think the stock is better just because of this one feature.

[@zachcuster7528]

im sure im in the minority but theirs things that the stock firmware has that i like more although garlic os definitely has its perks

[@RGGeek]

Glad you're enjoying it! I mean, it's not the worst experience and it sure beats the stock firmware I got on the RG350M a couple years ago! I basically made this comparison to help people decide if they want to upgrade and I'm glad it helped you to decide to stick with stock!

[@earlparkers]

First time visitor to your channel, really good video, subscribed. Loving the 35XX and have pretty much thrown myself at GarlicOS updating every time there is an update. Liking the combination of RetroArch based tweaks I can make to settings but then just a nice easy front-end where I can pick up and play once it's to my liking.

[@RGGeek]

Thanks so much! Yeah, it's crazy comparing it to the RG350M I bought 2 years ago for twice the price... I like the RG35XX so much more. Funny how much the handheld market has evolved and GarlicOS keeps making this handheld better almost everyday!

[@earlparkers]

@@RGGeek Same here, the 350M was my first retro handheld, they've all come such a long way and it's exciting to see what they can come up with next, especially in this kind of smaller form factor.

[@RGGeek]

@@earlparkers Yeah. The Miyoo Mini+ might really shake things up. Also shocked about the rumor that it might support WiFi! 😱🔥

[@baxter00uk]

@@RGGeek This is exactly my situation. I have an RG350m with Adam image installed. And I have the grey RG35xx. I'll keep one and give the other to my 11 year old Nephew for mostly Pokémon. When I look at the price still today the RG350m seems the better machine. But I do get a lot of nostalgia from the grey 35xx, and I think I prefer the vertical setup. Can't decide which one to keep. What are your thoughts if you compare them? Are you using Adam image?

[@baxter00uk]

The 350m is still like £90 on a Anbernics website. Vs less than £50 for the 35xx. Obviously taking into account a fortune for shipping for either one.

[@saqqawattuhb7505]

Does Garlic OS improve performance? As in does it playe more/better games?

[@RGGeek]

I believe it actually plays less since it can't access the GPU since Anbernic won't release their source code. I haven't been playing enough "high-end" games on mine to notice any difference personally.

[@pseudzy]

Ps1 issues on garlic, although apparently they are being fixed

[@CenturionKZ]

Today's (21 January) update overlocked the CPU to 1.3GHz (+300 mhz), so yes it does.

[@AlesBerka]

@@RGGeek I tried to find more on this topic, but failed to. Can you share any source/link about the GPU limitation, please?

[@RGGeek]

I believe they’ve since gotten access to the GPU. All the details are in the change notes of GarlicOS on his Patreon.

[@Zillawill]

Bit off topic but I really can't decide on what colour to go for, and I think this is first time I've seen the purple on youtube (and first time I've seen 2 side by side), I kinda wish purple had the black buttons of clear

[@RGGeek]

Yeah, I love the gray so much. I have to wonder how much is the nostalgia for my first DMG GameBoy though. Honestly, I’ve never been a huge fan of transparent shells on electronics, so the decision was easy for me.

[@Zillawill]

@@RGGeek Yeah I had DMG as a kid too, but two I have most nostalgia for I guess is my yellow GBC and blue GBA, actually makes me kinda sad that since my mid teens I haven't really bothered with handhelds

[@RGGeek]

@@Zillawill Awww, well the RG35XX is a great affordable way to get back into them. It’ll play all those handhelds no problem, in some ways better than the original with a modern screen, save states, easier battery and not having to deal with cartridges. Welcome back!

[@zomkashwak]

is there a shell case only for sale? i want to change mine from time to time. i bought the transparent purple. i have so much memories in gray color but when i was i kid i really want the transparent purple.

[@RGGeek]

@@zomkashwak Not that I'm aware of.

[@49684]

Great job, I personally prefer the stock OS. 😊👊

[@18zips80]

i like the aesthetic of the stock firmware way more

[@wizzel22]

GarlicOS 1.05 onwards needs new code for Boxart/Screenshot previews in game lists. The 640x480 workarounds are shit. There's a bug in navigating the "Consoles". When pressing left in the console entries, it should rotate the menu pages. However, it spares the last page when not all tiles are filled in the 2x4 segment.

[@leodileodileo]

HEllo sibilings, I heard that the sd who comes with the console is crap, i'm a Mac user and I have a 64 gb extreme pro by sandisk, can I just Copy the folders from one to another? I don't care about garlic and searching rom pack I know that some games included are not top notch but I will use my time in a different way . so if you guys can just answer the question.

[@SuperHyperKabuto]

Also cheats. Looks like garlicos is the only one that supports cheats?

[@retropixelados]

Good video. Only for information, the update of the Stock firmware has solved the most of the problems. Now PS works better, the aspect can be changed, etc. I have a video in my Chanel about the changes

[@RGGeek]

Funnily enough since making this video, GarlicOS has also mostly fixed the issues I mentioned: volume is now remembered on a per game basis, there are now 2 dimmer brightness settings and single presses now always go to the next game. Fascinating to watch this evolve.

[@retropixelados]

@@RGGeek I would like to install it this week to see the difference. Thank you 😊

[@RGGeek]

@@retropixelados I’m curious to hear what you think!

[@grzesiumisiu]

Hi. Do you know how to run Amiga games? Where to load the bios? And where to copy game roms? I would like the games to appear in the "Game Rooms" or "RA GAMES" menu. I have original software. None Garlic OS or something... :)

[@RGGeek]

Sorry, I have no idea. Sounds like a real challenge… good luck! 🔥

[@grzesiumisiu]

@@RGGeek🙂

[@andandoquesgerundioar9916]

Como es posible que la garlicOS no traiga un buscador de juegos? Sin esa opción pierde mucho.

[@RGGeek]

No sé. 🤷‍♂️

[@aslan4270]

Which won?I cant see

[@Cowboytoycollector]

Just got mine 45.99 free shipping can't remember the site geek something Hong Kong also have miyoo mini plus not upgraded os but why pay more if you're going to upgrade everything yourself

[@pixboytv]

My only advice is : Stay away from MuOs Having android on my toaster would feel more stable than that 😬 If you do so you should be fine 😂

[@RGGeek]

I’m also not a fan of MuOS! 😅

[@pixboytv]

@@RGGeek I installed Knulli and omg this CFW is so user friendly and almost no weird bugs. loving it !

[@LinKandogamesnerd]

GarlicOS or batocera turns the experience with rg35xx better. Very good!

[@lukmannulhakim3597]

PS1 on Garlic OS not working for my RG35xx, all file format from pbp, chd, bin, img & iso not working at all. Currently running on ver. 1.4.9

[@MrBlues113]

I dindt like Garlic Os, please dont bother guys.

[@kjc4792]

Personally i prefer the anbernic os. Garlic seemed too complicated for me

[@johnraymondj.pajigal5015]

why garlicOS don't have search function?

[@RGGeek]

No idea. 🤔

[@3xperiment8]

I have such a small problem I wonder if you could help? :( I'm using stock OS just the way It is. I prefer to use native in-game saving progress rather than save staves for nostalgic reasons. Then GBA, Ps1 games, all works fine. The problem is in Snes. In the game I can save the game normally. Let's say Donkey Kong Country. I can see my % of game on menu. But whenever I exit the game and restart, the menu is empty. No games saved. It only happens on Snes. What am I missing?

[@bronnyjames7885]

is it possible for stock os user to add updated bios file? cause i cant find the root of bios file (scph1001). i only see the bios folder but its empty

[@Wic-keiru]

Hi... What is Linux os? also is there any os than Stock and Garlic? if so. which one is better?

[@QmOt89]

Does the stock OS have fast forward functionality on GBA/GBC games? I need it to play pokemon games~

[@RGGeek]

To my knowledge, no. Also, it’s disabled for Gambatte in the latest GarlicOS, but I expect this will be fixed in a future update.

[@Kristofferheihei]

Can you use cheats when playing gba roms on the stock software? Like Pokemon Fire Red using gameshark codes, or do you need garlic OS to have that oppertunity? Also can you use fast forward (speed increase) on the stock OS emulators for gbc and gba? This will be a Pokemon emulator for me.

[@albertpuppymaster671]

Is it normal to keep pressing menu button several times to exit a game ?

[@antoniofrederic6737]

How do I return to stock OS? I switched to garlic in settings but prefer stock. Thank you!

[@jessequick6158]

Did u figure it out

[@Kakascrot]

My missus has just ordered the grey one for me for my birthday, it arrived today but my birthday isn't until next week, I feel like a kid again haha but I will wait patiently for now

[@RGGeek]

I remember when I was a teen, my parents got me SolarStriker for Christmas, but they said I can’t play it until I’m in the car for our family trip to South Carolina the next day. Early that next morning, my parents were ready to go, but they couldn’t find me anywhere. I was in the car alone playing SolarStriker on my GameBoy! 😂😂😂

[@marklumanog1928]

can you cheat on stock os? i installed garlic os for this but i dont like the ui that much

[@Wadafak506]

How can I search for games in Anbernic? because the search option no longer appears

[@RGGeek]

There is no search option on GarlicOS, only on the stock OS.

[@Wadafak506]

@@RGGeek thanks, and do you know how i could put the original operating system, stock OS, or is It no longer possible?

[@RGGeek]

@@Wadafak506 It should be possible to put the original Stock OS on it, but I haven't looked at this handheld in so long, I'm not sure how you'd do that. Maybe see if it's on Anbernic's website?

[@Wadafak506]

Thank you, it just came on by itself without me touching anything and I don't know how to put it back to how it was before.

[@AmbientWalking]

Thanks for this comparison.

[@RGGeek]

You're welcome!

[@mussietube9909]

Can you ad own roms to stock firmware

[@wilsonpepega2544]

Hi just bought the system with the garlic os preinstalled, but for some reason i was unable to save the game directly from the game, i have to rely on save state. do you have any solution on this?

[@RGGeek]

I've never heard of this except I know at some point it stopped doing save states for MAME, so maybe it's just not saving arcade games?

[@elitecol69]

Garlic does habe date and time

[@cleangoblin2021]

Can you hotkey fast forward in GarlicOS? Also auto fire and such? I wanna breeze through some jrpgs

[@fakefanalex7236]

It is just retroarch if you hit menu+x so look up how to do that in retroarch (but short answer, yes)

[@blakestrother5122]

Just wanted to add this in case it helps anyone. I just got the RG35xx and it came shipped with the newest firmware update for the stock OS. The biggest difference between that and the one you show in this video is that for handheld consoles, particulary all Gameboy, you do now have options other than full screen. I believe their is Full Screen, Aspect Ratio, 1:1, and 1:1 with a basic overlay for the rest of the screen space. This update alone has me leaning towards the stock OS. I don't know that need all the color shading for gameboy, just want it to look normal and not stretched. Been playing some GBA with aspect ration and it looks great imo.

[@RGGeek]

Glad to hear it! Sounds like they shipped out the early models before the software was fully baked.

[@fettaspalta3127]

sad to say those are seemingly bugged and lead to sound bugs on the gbc and gb roms and the Image is not truly rendered in the correct aspect ratio on thengba just squished so it looks rather bad, I hope they update the stock again, for now I will stick to garlic, also I really like the filters for retro arch, so I can make the game look more like on the original Gameboy or gbc

[@Kristofferheihei]

Can you use fast forward (speed increase) and gameshark cheats for gbc and gba games on the stock OS emulator?

[@escarlet1203]

For Garlic OS, can I insert stock SD card and will the search engine be available again?

[@RGGeek]

If you insert the Stock SD card, you'll have stock again which is searchable, yes.

[@trydummyheheheha6314]

Hi can you help me, I cant copy any of my roms to my rom sd card.

[@farlanghn]

11:32 How do you actually turn off the system? I am having this sleep issue on Garlic OS. I can never tell when the system is actually turned off and when I come back it is dead. Happened on Stock OS and still doing it with Garlic.

[@rafaelsoares8282]

In garlic you can't turn off

[@manicamanico1579]

i have read people having hard time saving their games. Is this a problem really or an isolated case?

[@RGGeek]

It always just auto-saved for me. I can only speak for myself, but I never had any issues.

[@devin9748]

I decided to just play the handheld as it is since I’m having issues getting garlic. If I decide to just play it casually w the stock os and the sd card that came w it will I have any problems in the future? Like it crashing, not working, etc

[@frostreaper1607]

Yes, its a trash card. Least you want to do is research on how to burn the 'img' file to a new card.

[@richieploomba6029]

I have a question. Does anbernic rg35xx (stock fw or garlicos) work with Amiga Cd32 roms? What retro console would you recommend for Amiga Cd32 roms?

[@wizzel22]

The p-uae core used in retroarch runs a little too slow at the standard clock speed. You only reach full speed at the "++" overclock setting, which drains the battery even faster...

[@iLuvGaming]

Thank you for making this video.! This helps a lot 💯

[@RGGeek]

You're welcome. Happy to help! Most of the issues I found with Garlic OS have already been fixed... Black Seraph is amazing!

[@lloydramos7012]

RG35xx or 351m? Can't decide

[@RGGeek]

I'd personally choose the RG35xx given those options, but the RG351M has more power, feels more premium, but is also heavier.

[@dialog420]

🤔 there’s is a way to change the aspect ratio on stock firmware

[@RGGeek]

Yeah, on the updated firmware, but not the stock firmware I got installed on mine.

[@zemphy6700]

do you think they will ever make the games have pictures of the title and the game on the side

[@RGGeek]

Not likely, although some people mess around with transparency to get it to work, but I don't feel like setting all that up myself. 😀

[@Gwyndon]

Thanks for this comparison!

[@Whatta33]

How can I get more games on my 35xx. New into all this 😂

[@RGGeek]

I'd recommend checking out archive.org. :)

[@EliasPfaiffer]

With my rg351v I'm using amberelec and I'm just fine with it!

[@AlekseyBushin]

May be you know can I replace background image by gif animation?

[@RGGeek]

I'm pretty sure that's not possible.

[@greentray1231]

GarlicOS definitely is better in my opinion and fixed that non existent sleep issue with stock.

[@yadspi]

The 1st FW version link is broken and I wanted to try it, does anyone have another link?

[@RGGeek]

Black Seraph just updated the firmware again today. Maybe see if it's working now?

[@Tagalized]

has wifi to download games??

[@RGGeek]

No WiFi. You have to put the SD card in your computer to transfer games.

[@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude]

I LOVE how this device was shitted on although its perfect but the reason they shit on it is cause the OS turnd to find out the stock OS better LUL XD

[@RGGeek]

Ha, Stock and GarlicOS each have their own pros and cons. :)

[@wizzel22]

@@RGGeek Although we are hoping that GarlicOS will surpass the Stock Firmware one day. At least, that should be the goal.

[@kammaday4037]

i ordered a system 4 days ago, cant wait :D

[@3xperiment8]

So, How you like It so far?

[@tobizockt4710]

Garlic it stucking and buggy in my case. I prefer Stock OS, faster menu. Please make Tutorial how to clean install Stock OS. In Garlic OS psx Not working. Ich benutze lieber Anbernic OS , ich würde gerne eine zweite größere SD Karte mit Stock OS anfertigen, leider gibt es keine Anleitung zur sauberen neu Formatierung und Installation. Vielleicht kann mir jemand helfen. Kann man auch eine zweite Karte ohne OS zum speichern der Roms nutzen?

[@RGGeek]

Danke für die Idee! Ja, man kann eine zweite Karte ohne OS für Roms nutzen. Man muss es einfach in FAT32 formattieren (und wenn per Mac, dann mit Option "Master Boot Record"). Viel Spaß!

[@tobizockt4710]

@@RGGeek vielen Dank für die schnelle Antwort. Ich liebe dieses Gerät.

[@totenjachu]

I am a casual player and just want to play games, is it really needed to install garlic?

[@RGGeek]

If you're happy with the stock experience, just enjoy that! 🙂

[@totenjachu]

@@RGGeek Also I heard that I should change the microsd card that is inside the console, is it true that this card is really bad and has a tendency to stop working?

[@RGGeek]

@@totenjachu yeah, it’s worth swapping the SD out preferably for one by SanDisk or Samsung.

[@jonathancabuhat1449]

Can i change OS stock sd card to GarlicOS sd card and vice versa without changing the SD ROM slot?

[@RGGeek]

I'm sorry I don't understand what you're asking. 😕

[@kabukimanbrazeetoh5664]

@@RGGeek I believe he's asking if it's possible to interchange TF 1 (Garlic OS or Stock OS) with the alternate, and still not lose functionality & format of the TF2 (External SD Card)... since I'm not 100% sure if Garlic OS retains the same folder structure as stock offerings.

[@RGGeek]

@@kabukimanbrazeetoh5664 Ah, if that’s the question, then I don’t know.

[@dztrader]

where do i download the games from ?

[@RGGeek]

I’d recommend looking on archive.org.

[@ProtoPropski]

I won't like Stock has good presentation, but the features of Garlic are just impossible to ignore (even though OP did) Having Sleep Mode, More Cores, built right into the OS is not just necessary it's REQUIRED, to get a good experience out of this amazing device I don't know why the Stock OS doesn't have Sleep Mode, but man it's something that's supper handy sometimes you just can't get to a save point quick enough before you have to do something else, and you need to just let it rest for awhile. Also having more cores is just good to cause let's say you do enjoy those extra systems, now you can get an extra value out of the system by just having a CFW.

[@RGGeek]

So, Stock has a sleep mode, but it really just drains your battery while it's asleep. Garlic doesn't have a sleep mode, but when you turn it off during a game it automatically saves your game and when you turn it on, it automatically loads your game, so it doesn't use any battery and feels like sleep. Hope this helps! :)

[@DestryKorth]

11:14

[@rhtr.]

What? No Atari 2600 in stock? 😕 I have just ordered this device for that.

[@RGGeek]

Then upgrade to GarlicOS and you’re set. I’ve been loving playing Atari 2600, 5200 and 7800 on it with Garlic. Still blows my mind they’d release such a device without Atari and native aspect ratios though! 🤯

[@rhtr.]

@@RGGeekYes. Thank you. I can always swap sd cards with systems. No Atari is weird because other devices from Anbernic have this out of the box.

[@RGGeek]

@@rhtr. Yeah, I was honestly shocked not to see Atari there. Like... what?! Sometimes systems don't have Atari 7800, but the 2600 is a must!

[@TheShimaEnaga]

There is Nintendo 64 ?

[@RGGeek]

No, but you wouldn't want N64 without an analog stick anyway.

[@REEUNSWORLD]

Who got more games garlicos or stock?

[@RGGeek]

Stock comes with games installed. On GarlicOS you have to install your own games.

[@REEUNSWORLD]

@@RGGeek do you have video or link that i can get those games and add on my sd?

[@REEUNSWORLD]

@@RGGeek hey man if you add new game is it possible to install on a lower slot for sd?

[@RGGeek]

@@REEUNSWORLD If you want to get games, I'm recommend searching for "no intro roms" and maybe looking on archive.org. :)

[@RGGeek]

@@REEUNSWORLD Yep, you can add them to the second SD card. :)

[@petermccue2223]

Any way to get fast forward on stock OS?

[@RGGeek]

I believe not.

[@petermccue2223]

@@RGGeek Bummer. Thanks!

[@negativeland5207]

Not really related but I’m torn between the transparent purple and the DMG color scheme, which one do you prefer?

[@RGGeek]

I personally definitely prefer the DMG, but I've never been a huge fan of transparent handhelds and I owned an original DMG, so that adds nostalgic value to me.

[@ReanuKeaves1]

Can you do Garlic OS with rg353v?

[@RGGeek]

I don't think so, but I really have no idea. 😕

[@ibitaRaptor]

Is there a search for games function in GarlicOS?

[@RGGeek]

No.

[@michaelbachler2716]

I just want to know how long it takes to ship

[@RGGeek]

I hear it ships out immediately unlike so many other handhelds these days.

[@michaelbachler2716]

@@RGGeek Been hanging around china for a week seems to be on a plane now

[@Mrswaggzz]

Yo mines coming tomorrow do yours still work after 4 months of use

[@seks183]

64gb or 128gb ?

[@RGGeek]

32 GB is what I used for each card. Stock was 64 GB.