it started so early between isaiah and jordan 1st was his college coach bob knight saying jordan the greatest he’s ever seen. 2nd. jordan taking over the hearts of chicago, isaiahs home town. 3rd. the all star game freeze out. 4th. same division and building rivalry. a dirty team meets a freak determined athlete
@lamefart4 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is MJ has nothing but respect for Isiah. He placed Isiah next to Magic -- the goat pg. He was just flabbergasted by the walkout.
@forbiddenair4 жыл бұрын
Brave Fart yeah jordan seemed to respect all the great ballers that came before him
@GameTime-yj6qv4 жыл бұрын
Yes it wasn't a single incident
@chrisheroldt58714 жыл бұрын
Never thought about the Bobby Knight part. Good call.
@gagandhaliwal93914 жыл бұрын
@@lamefart and even shook bad boys pistons hands after getting killed by them two years in a row in the playoffs.
@kwan6434 жыл бұрын
Chuck Daily did shake the Bulls’ hands; so did Joe Dumars.
@malteadotas44 жыл бұрын
And John Salley.
@blachubear4 жыл бұрын
@@malteadotas4 Now that was mention in the documentary.
@BurnNotice20234 жыл бұрын
Joe Dumars from Natchitoches, LA. All Class.
@hgtydjdjdgh678894 жыл бұрын
Thomas will never get it. Nothing is his fault. Ever. It's everyone else's fault.
@dnice41454 жыл бұрын
Guys a phony, a snake in the grass. Its all an act.
@forbiddenair4 жыл бұрын
Dats a paddlin pretty valid point. a happy medium would be nice but perfection isn’t often possible.
@forbiddenair4 жыл бұрын
@Dats a paddlin they haven't been crying for 30 years. they revel in sweeping them so badly they walked off BUT if you're going to put them in front of a camera for a documentary and ask them questions about the pistons dirty play, they are going to answer. that was the point of the sit down. what good would it be if they asked them to speak about it and they all said 'no comment'. ??
@cobragrunt72954 жыл бұрын
Loving this side of Rich. Mainly cuz im feel the same, feed the hate!
@moisessalazar44324 жыл бұрын
The Pistons were dirty players. Larry Bird called Bill Laimbeer the dirtiest player of the league. He(and the rest of the Pistons to a certain extent)not only was physical but had intent to cause injury to the other player. Bird in an interview brilliantly points out the difference between physical play and dirty playing. I do not resent the Pistons success but is tarnished by the aforementioned reason, and that was they own doing.
@katonaakos55964 жыл бұрын
...and that's something to say, Bird was no saint either, but fair enough :D Honorable mention John Stockton...
@johnschreckengost28474 жыл бұрын
I feel like we, as a community, bullied the production crew to fix the volume.
@galvo_galvo4 жыл бұрын
Bully them to get rid of the 'HEY YOU WATCHED ALL THE WAY TO THE END'. You guys do GODs work :)
@chocolateladycap27734 жыл бұрын
I freaking love this!!
@JeffmChicago4 жыл бұрын
Rich Eisen I enjoyed that. Thank you.
@ballgolfer4 жыл бұрын
Well said about Isaiah Thomas...Pistons keeps blaming Celtics about walking off the court but two wrongs don't make a right...
@adgee54014 жыл бұрын
ballgolfer A right and a wrong doesn’t either
@shawnbantz4 жыл бұрын
So well said! Thank you!
@PaulMorley14 жыл бұрын
I'm having shirts made. "Isiah, it's not him. It's you! It's you! There's a mirror, somewhere in your world... Look in it."
@Destiny-ps6cs4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing that out.
@Alia891194 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rich!!! You took the words out of my mouth. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@Tursh1014 жыл бұрын
I thought the line of the night came from Gary Payton talking about Dennis Rodman. That was hilarious!!!!
@garyjones90234 жыл бұрын
The Bad Boys didn't just play physical basketball, some like Laimbeer were intentionally trying to hurt their opponents. The Pistons were reviled in every NBA city outside Detroit for their dirty play. That dirty play is why the media refused to vote Laimbeer into the Hall of Fame and that's why Isiah got banned from the Dream Team. The failure to shake hands was just a catalyst that summed up all the negative aspects to how the Pistons played. They were bad for basketball and, after being imitated by the Knicks & Heat, caused the NBA to change their rules.
@bubbazep014 жыл бұрын
Volume is good here!!
@jordachejordan904 жыл бұрын
Lol its so funny when Rich always brings it bck to the Knicks and eventually Dolan.
Booooommm!!! Same here! Hated pistons! Don’t mess up our 🐐 MJ otherwise.. you’ll regret something one day!
@fresh2def232314 жыл бұрын
It is really him facts and nobody else comes to your perfect conclusion that if chuck was the coach..it's You
@cjleo814 жыл бұрын
I'm so sick of all these bias ppl y'all love Larry Bird didn't shake the Pistons hands when they beat them. Bird came out and said he never shook Magic hand because he hated the Lakers. Karl Malone personally trying to hurt Isiah Thomas he was selected. Just face the Fact the only play to beat Jordan, Bird, Magic. Zeek back to back champ. I hated the Pistons as a kid I'm from Detroit but u have to respect Him and the Bad Boys
@fresh2def232314 жыл бұрын
Me too I really still do toooooo
@NemesisN4Sir4 жыл бұрын
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
@MrSean3kids4 жыл бұрын
Please do more Lady Dance coverage its all the sports we have and it’s glorious that we get Michael Jordan again. I love every moment of it
@JK-br1mu2 жыл бұрын
Dance, lady, dance!
@kriskerpuchki13114 жыл бұрын
I love it
@mjnelson41514 жыл бұрын
Isiah is the biggest snake and excuse maker. He was hated in the league when he played. That smile hides a lot!
@TK0S34 жыл бұрын
THAT SMILE HIDES A LOT. If ever there was a sentence that fully sums up Isiah Thomas.
@talesis14 жыл бұрын
Facts
@ProSportsOutlook4 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine what life would’ve been like had Jordan been from this era?
@katonaakos55964 жыл бұрын
Actually, we've been spoiled in the 90s. Some of the good from that era should have been transferred to this as this one lacks so much...Keep your heads up, guys! Will need it badly in the times coming.
@shep684 жыл бұрын
I say this as a 90s Bulls and MJ fan...but Isiah and the rest of those Pistons players are missing a great opportunity to really turn the screws here. Whole country is following this series and many don’t even know the story. During these interviews they shud be saying, “Mike still mad about that? I don’t even think about him anymore.” That’s how u make a head explode. Lol.
@QS-si3cq4 жыл бұрын
Tom Shepard *should
@shep684 жыл бұрын
Internet spelling rules. Lighten up.
@yoda95184 жыл бұрын
Laimbeer is taking that stance. He said lebron is better than mj and that he doesn't watch the nba.
@lancehood79164 жыл бұрын
Facts Chuck Daily was the Coach.
@rxtsec14 жыл бұрын
I have mixed emotions about Isaiah. He definitely payded a severe price for the stunts he pulled like not shaking MJ's hand. What he said about bird & Magic. How his team played however there is a part of me that feels he had to be that way to become the champion he became cause those guys weren't just gonna give it to him. I suppose it's a double edged sword
@kidhalloween85704 жыл бұрын
As a knicks fan, I’m all here for the isiah hate
@carlsingleton71434 жыл бұрын
The UofM should take your degree back
@PointBlankChiWay4 жыл бұрын
Jerry Reinsdoff 1 of the Top 5 WORST Owners of all time!
@JamesBrown-hr5qs4 жыл бұрын
Bought the Bulls for 12 Million. Now they are worth 3.2 billion.
@PointBlankChiWay4 жыл бұрын
@@JamesBrown-hr5qshad keepMichael Jordan around it’ll be worth 5 billion
@playmakersc12k824 жыл бұрын
Zeke was a really extraordinary player - but he’s a snake ...I love that Lambo owns the black hat role and doesn’t care what you think. And I hated Lambo the player
@katonaakos55964 жыл бұрын
Laimbeer played his role pretty well, actually wouldn't be remembered without that acting (wasn't that "Tough guy" - B-Boys ref.- as he sold himself).
@notfromthisworld75584 жыл бұрын
Prison ball need love too it is a style don’t like then quite hahaha
@trueskool19774 жыл бұрын
ESPN 2 has the censored version
@mdotcom094 жыл бұрын
My daddy said censored versions are for pussies....
@jpman94 жыл бұрын
The shaking hands wasn’t the reason...it was isiah freezing out MJ in previous all star games...
@pedromanuelmoreira104 жыл бұрын
Bullshit. The dream team players hated the Pistons. Bird, Magic, Bird, Ewing, etc.
@katonaakos55964 жыл бұрын
@@pedromanuelmoreira10 Bird hated only once. If you double up, that would be Magic :)
@frenzyact67054 жыл бұрын
Found a website that already got first 8 episodes of this doc, small spoil alert i think episode 7, 8 r the episodes Jordan talking about When he said ppl might think his a bad guy after watching this documentary, it highlights the FEAR Jordan instill in his teammates
@jpman94 жыл бұрын
Frenzy Act I, too, have seen episodes 5-8. Not to give away anything, 5-6 were good (can’t disclose the subject matter), but 7 was incredible and episode 8 could be one of the greatest things every produced n television. Unbelievable. Can’t wait for the reactions in a couple of weeks.
@winthorpetrois4 жыл бұрын
IT abandoned Magic after HIV, Brockman.
@briankaren6044 жыл бұрын
Why did he hate McHale?
@angelmatos91434 жыл бұрын
There are many ways to communicate. If you run into Bill Laimbeer feel free to ‘kick him in the nuts’. (satire)
@stephencorbitt27524 жыл бұрын
Jordan and the Bulls berated the Pistons w the media prior to game 4. They were sore winners.
@matthewheywood85324 жыл бұрын
As the pistons berated Jordan for years the n the press saying he wasn’t a leader and would never win but that was ok ? Nice try
@realitybites6294 жыл бұрын
Phil aint coming back even if they win all 82 coz he needs a SABBATICAL.
@hunterburk4 жыл бұрын
Why does Rich Eisen hate Kevin McHale?
@kennmullen64544 жыл бұрын
Rich too is still holding onto that old school style kinda hate. I hate Willis Reed. I hate Jerry Sloan. Hell, first I loved Lew Alcindor and Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Then I realized the Bucks were in the West and he had to play my Wilt. I hated Kareem....un he became a LAKER ... The G.O.A.T. Then I grew up. Kareem is still my GOAT. I would say that have not had hate for decades. That would not be true. I Hate Chris Paul. Only hate the great ones...
@kingtrawal4 жыл бұрын
I like Rich LOLL
@HaiPham-qt1pd4 жыл бұрын
Rich.. Let it go bro you ain't MJ
@johncapo67574 жыл бұрын
who is worse - Jordan or his fans you have a co-worker terrorizing / bullying/ punching co-workers "yeah...but we won"
@dreamz7014 жыл бұрын
Take your meds
@RLSmith-jt8qj4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@yoda95184 жыл бұрын
Its basketball...fights happen
@dannylast87074 жыл бұрын
hated the pistons....but its passed.. They played dirty,,hard fouls meant to harm,,not just fouls..after play fouls..in todays game the pistons would all be thrown out ,,because flagrant fouls..!!!
@kishock03484 жыл бұрын
well they wouldn't of played like that today...... They played the way that they did by using the rules not breaking them. So in today's game they would just be different.
@drknockers8134 жыл бұрын
Rich get out your feelings you just mad thats all still love ya tho
@zeekot40644 жыл бұрын
Why aren’t they talking about Boston doing the same to Detroit ?? Also, as isiah stated in the doc.. boston did it to them so they did it to the next team that took over.. when Chicago shook hands with the pistons after their loss they were still the challengers not the Champions.. its funny how bad boy haters are only talking about the pistons doing it but not the Celtics either... hate em all u want,but be realistic about it.. and Jordan IS the reason why isiah didnt make the dream team lmao thats a well known fact
@GameTime-yj6qv4 жыл бұрын
Isiah deserved to be in the dream team, he could have replaced Mullin. But too many of the players did not like him like Jordan, Pippen, Magic, Bird, Malone, etc.
@WeCube18984 жыл бұрын
It seems odd for Zeke to be in the 92 Dream Team Larry and Magic are Co-Captains (Leaders) MJ 23, Mullin and Ewing are the core of the 84 Champion Scottie Pippen = MJ Wingman Malone + Stockton all the way, No Stockton = No Malone Barkley is in 84 Squad Pool 9/12 Not really known to be a fan of Zeke ( Him around would just mess chemistry) Drexler brought in Slashing/Shooting Robinson is the Avenger from the 88 Squad C Laettner is the first one who secured the slot because they allotted one slot for college player if its not him it could be either of the ff C Shaquille O Neal 7'1 F Chris Webber. 6'9 C Alonzo Mourning 6'10 F Grant Hill. 6'8 G Penny Hardaway. 6'7
@katonaakos55964 жыл бұрын
Good points there, regarding Laettner- he's considered (and is) the best College player ever, even all those you mentioned had a better NBA career (or had bigger impact to be precise).
@111RAMONES4 жыл бұрын
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@VannApragal4 жыл бұрын
Dooooodes, it is between Isiah or Magic because of the POSITION they played. No one will EVER pick Isiah over Magic!
@maheepsangari4 жыл бұрын
No, it was Isiah or Stockton. Magic was already 100% in
@kishock03484 жыл бұрын
Love how when talking about the non handshake, the MOST important aspect of the whole thing is left out. The bulls, mostly Jordan and Jackson, were saying horrible things about the pistons and their character. Regardless of whether or not it was true, what kind of moron do you have to be to wonder why a team didn't shake your had after a game when you disrespected them before the game. The whole argument that jordan always shook the pisotns' hands after the game, doesn't apply here cause they never said horrible things about jordan and the rest of the bulls. I love how its easy to hate a team when they didn't do anything wrong but play with EVERY card that they had available.
@JK-br1mu2 жыл бұрын
The Pistons were dirty players and bad people for other reasons, but if you look at the Celtics/Lakers Finals, they didn't shake hands after the final games either......it's true the Bulls did shake the Pistons hands when they lost to them, but the Pistons can point to other teams who didn't
@paolee27304 жыл бұрын
MJ need to grow the F up. These were the Basketball days, and playing dirty was the norm.
@katonaakos55964 жыл бұрын
Playing dirty and playing to cause injuries are not the same.
@paolee27304 жыл бұрын
@@katonaakos5596 you don't know 1980s NBA then.
@katonaakos55964 жыл бұрын
@@paolee2730 Very interesting, what did you want to say?
@paulthomas99114 жыл бұрын
Rich, you hated the Pistons because you are a Bulls fan and you could not beat them 88 89 and 90. period. full stop. Pistons were a better team. Dont go to U of M if you dont want to be around Pistons fans.
@juanccadoc90714 жыл бұрын
Interesting, Jordan missed shots in a playoff and Bulls lost cause of that. Imagine that happening in todays game. Old people lies
@AlonzoCalPolyPomona4 жыл бұрын
This guy is lame. 60 yrs old hating other men
@yoda95184 жыл бұрын
Ironic statement
@RaynellJamal4 жыл бұрын
This is truly pathetic. I don’t care what y’all say.
@jimarmstrong26304 жыл бұрын
Rule changes allowed the Bulls to get by the Pistons. Previous Finals had extremely low TV viewership because Portland and Detroit are 2 small market teams. Pistons played within the rules of the game, so they changed the rules and amid a flurry of Flagrant Fouls in the playoffs, Bulls beat the Pistons.
@iank39244 жыл бұрын
So you think the officiating is why the Bulls swept the Pistons in 91? Dear god, how do you get through your day believing that when there is film of your precious Pistons getting dismembered?
@jimarmstrong26304 жыл бұрын
@@iank3924 I watched the series in real time, what I saw was the Refs determining the outcome. Sports isn't a pure competition anymore, its about TV revenue, and outside Michigan, nobody wanted to watch the Pistons. Charles Barkley calls it "changed the rules so the girls can play".
@katonaakos55964 жыл бұрын
@@jimarmstrong2630 Would have won one at the least...
@beautifullion694 жыл бұрын
Lol omg, I didn’t realized chuck Daly coached the dream team 😆😆 that’s even funnier. MJ and Scottie were able to put their Piston hate aside for Rodman and Salley who became teammates but Isiah.... 😂😂
@tayag20034 жыл бұрын
John Salley and Joe Dumars were the only players to shake the Bulls' hands at the end of the game. Jackson told Rodman to apologize to Jordan and Pippen before they all played together and he did. Remember 3 Bad Boys Pistons played in that '95-'96 team: Rodman, Salley, and James Edwards.