Rich Paul to LeBron: “If your athleticism went away you’d be Karl Malone” | NBA | FIRST THINGS FIRST

Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes discuss LeBron James after Rich Paul’s comments saying LeBron can play for “as long as he wants” and his comparison to Karl Malone.
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Rich Paul to LeBron: “If your athleticism went away you’d be Karl Malone” | NBA | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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[@johncampbell7417]

😂😂😂

[@naasiftyson8542]

I’m in tears yo🤣😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😅😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@davidyoung4637]

@@johncampbell7417guyFF

[@mykustomzdiecast962]

No thanks LOL..i have enough of NIck's ludacris take on this very short clip :)

[@matolaugh6167]

🤡s

[@xander908]

Lebron built a school, Karl Malone shouldn’t be allowed within 100 feet of one

[@shafiksunderani4230]

😂😂😂

[@genocidehero9687]

Stole that from the other vid huh? 😂

[@byroncameron6503]

Karl was delivering mail to that school!! 😂😂 idc, idc 😂

[@Jay3rd313]

Mmmmmmm Barz

[@craigugulini3409]

No one really talks about him getting a really young girl pregnant back in the day……

[@kingbirdIII]

Malones midrange is extremely underrated

[@alexnewkirk4526]

Money from about 13 feet out

[@Mithrandir523]

Missed it when it mattered tho lol, that's what was so frustrating about him

[@iwishiwasthomasshelby]

You mean mid ranged teens?

[@seanadachi9795]

LeBron doesn't know what mid-range is

[@barakesmith-washington6946]

@@seanadachi9795 don't need it

[@tweezy5804]

To say you could take someone's athletic ability away and they would still be Karl Malone. That is an amazing compliment.

[@JosePremo0813]

Right that’s what I said

[@tono6621]

Without Lebron, rich Paul would be working at t mobile rn

[@JosePremo0813]

@@tono6621 sellin drugs somewhere 😂

[@evflorybarnes]

Exactly!

[@BeatByMars]

I was thinkin the same lol Karl Malone was a muthafuckin beast

[@Dondissimo]

In the 96-97 regular season the Jazz scored 103.1 ppg In the 98-99 regular season the Jazz scored 93.3 ppg. This gives us an avg of 98.2 ppg. Karl’s 26.1 ppg during those seasons has him scoring ~ 26.6% of his team’s points. (Strictly per game..not a total number stat) The Lakers over the last two seasons have scored 112.1 ppg and 117.2 ppg respectively. This gives us an avg of 114.65 ppg. LeBron’s 29.6 ppg during those seasons has him scoring ~ 25.8% of his team’s points. (Strictly per game..not a total number stat) Brou’s point about the volume of scoring is technically correct, but probably isn’t a significant enough difference to be up in arms about the disrespect of Karl Malone. Their scoring numbers are comparable. He should’ve focused less on the volume and more just on the fact that LeBron can score at volume from the outside. He’s Malone’s size, but they play nothing alike. Hard to actually compare

[@jacobsamano9761]

Finally someone who knows what they are talking about. I thought these people had gone extinct, especially in the age of Twitter and KZbin comment wars.

[@thomaslee2558]

and it’s way easier to score now

[@thomaslee2558]

plus lebron has ball 70 percent of time

[@genocidehero9687]

Lebron - Four Rings Malone - Four(teen) year old old knocked up

[@mzilber1]

lmao!

[@LembeckIsStaying]

Sad part is she was actually 13. 🤮

[@NightCrawler810]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ckq]

@@LembeckIsStaying 12

[@sup9542]

And he was 17 or 18 and it gets into the realm of poverty and race.

[@dhruvit_s]

Lebron James in 2013 and 2014 vs 2022 and 2023 PPG: 27.0 vs 29.6 RPG: 7.5 vs 8.3 ASG: 6.8 vs 6.5 FG%: 56% vs 51% FT%: 75% vs 76% MPG: 37.8 vs 36.4 By Nick's argument, Lebron is a better player now than he was in Miami

[@MannyTwice]

At his age now offensively he is....his bag is much bigger (obviously not the same athleticism). It's the defense that's the problem

[@rpthepresident4654]

Miami Bron is just a younger defender not a better one dude just don’t sit in the chair anymore

[@aaronclay4665]

Timo be fair, he us save for stamina and def..... Also let's ve real he had 3 other stars on that Miami team?

[@Misaki11111]

Not better, smarter.

[@BasicBodThor]

@@MannyTwice That and he shoots way more 3s which to me is why his points have gone up a bit but his FG% has dipped a bit

[@mr.e347]

Malone played 19 seasons. Never missed playoffs. Led Jazz to 18 playoffs when Stock was already washed. Never missed playoffs. Malone longevity was way better than Dirks, KGs, Chucks. Chris has a legit point.

[@boatfromvsg8062]

Lebron played 20 seasons and went to 17 playoffs

[@zaywilliamson8347]

@@boatfromvsg8062dick riding ain’t you

[@mkpm1304]

​@boatfromvsg8062 you forgot in year 2 he actually had a winning record and somehow misses playoff?!

[@mkpm1304]

Yes Malone was incredibly durable, but so was LeBron until a few years ago. Also, I repeat this constantly but LeBron took 4 different teams to the Finals. FOUR. And only had 1 good coach. Imo familiarity goes a long way. And Sloane was an all time great coach imo..

[@jonathanbrown3046]

Last time I checked 🤔🧐 Stockton the ALL TIME assist leader is the reason the Utah jazz made all those playoff appearances .

[@jsoul99]

How come its not ok to throw up a bunch a numbers when it comes to Malone and Lebron but its ok to throw up those same numbers to disregard everything else about Lebron.

[@insidejah9293]

Right! Or to minimize his numbers and just say "Longevity Longevity". The 2016 Finals being the most egregious example.

[@shamelessjt1758]

Lenron averages 2 more pts per game than karl malone for his entire career... more assists less rebounds.

[@IvanRandomDude]

Based on Nick's logic Luka is better than 93 Jordan. Just look at the numbers. Giannis, Jokic and Embiid are all better than 00-02 Shaq, look at the numbers. God, SGA and Dame are as good of a scorers as 07 Kobe Bryant and OKC Durant, they average similar numbers. Comparing numbers from an era when the pace was the slowest in history to now is silly

[@tednockowitz7749]

Exactly. Part of me feels like Nick knows that this point, they just have to find something to fill the time.😂😂

[@thisnewnamesystemisdumb]

Context matters. He compared a 37-38 year old to a mvp winner in their prime. You didnt. 🤦‍♂️ Please get smarter.

[@lWingSpanl]

@@thisnewnamesystemisdumbI don’t understand why they just keep skipping over that🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

[@BooHefner]

If due to how slow the pace was can we stop over exaggerating how good the defense was based purely on numbers?🤔

[@BooHefner]

​@@thisnewnamesystemisdumbThat was Malone's 13th and 14th year in the league I believe so I wouldn't consider that as prime.

[@joseboyer-zk7qg]

Broussard calling out Nick was gold

[@jerrodgarland2604]

Nick wasn’t wrong

[@dbz_feats7723]

@@jerrodgarland2604 he admitted he was

[@1jdr127]

This show is PERFECT! Brou vs Nick = Platinum!!!!! Wildes = Comedic Gold!!!!

[@tysoncaves420]

Wildes in the background: geeee willikerrz

[@Nickvanexel23]

Karl Malone only missed 10 games his entire 18year stint with jazz that’s crazy

[@mitchtherevolution]

Should have been in prison the whole time

[@siba2379]

Those teens kept him rejuvenated

[@lisarollins4880]

@@mitchtherevolution 😆😆😆😆😆😆

[@leroysanders3564]

And how many rings did he get out of that🫣🫣🫣

[@mitchtherevolution]

@@leroysanders3564 I strongly believe that Utah will never win a championship as the Jazz. You can't be the Mormon capital of the world, and call your team the Jazz, and expect to not be a cursed franchise.

[@McGomezAddams]

"If LeBron's ceiling would be Karl Malone, he'd be a bust" - Chris Broussard 2003

[@TheGoatLocker]

Mic drop

[@waltertaylor44]

This is the research we need

[@chrishaswell4405]

But they aren't talking about LeBron Ceiling there talking about year 20 LeBron nice try though lol

[@onidtubes]

That is not what they are talking though.

[@chrishaswell4405]

​@waltertaylor44 but its not relevant to this debate .. this wasn't about LeBron ceiling it was about Malones ceiling and LeBron floor lol

[@ClareAmel]

It’s actually so INSANE hearing Broussard defend Malone so passionately. Doing a better job than Malone’s defense attorney

[@mr.mr.4772]

Louisiana Pride

[@buzziinmarciano5709]

Gotta hold on to that 90s/Mj lure

[@hooligan5381]

this corny cause thats 30 years old and the girl didn't want press charges lol

[@danielphagans2066]

I see l showed up on 8mile today not prepared with bars Yall are dropping these Malone bars are funny!😅😂

[@justindwarika2523]

He's defending his ability to play a game, not his character. This a sports show, not Law and Order

[@mos8558]

Wilds is surprisingly very likable now unlike when he started... good job wilds I'm happy for you

[@Camefromnone]

Facts he used to be annoying af

[@erikpuka2627]

Malone had an actual mid range game and actual post skills. Could actually guard people too. Most big defenders just protect the rim. He could guard bigs.

[@coryburns9161]

And have s ex with underage girls

[@TheDamis360]

Lebron could guard in his prime like any top defender

[@wesleymiller3830]

@@TheDamis360no he couldn’t

[@anthonyauthentic7934]

@@wesleymiller3830he could tho… what?

[@JustinJohnson-tq7wr]

@@wesleymiller3830 He literally locked up Prime D-rose in a playoff series. "locked up" as well as anyone could

[@Robrr89]

Nick is the type of media personality Barkley talks about when it comes to making it personal

[@holymolythejabroni9040]

100%. He’s Skip Bayless in different clothes.

[@agtjackbauer]

Nick just wants to get in LBJ's pants so bad. He's like the nerd that wants the hot girl and embarrasses himself and never gets her.

[@thisisnotmyname8766]

At least Nick is funny

[@jetblkm3112]

I mean Nick is a clutch sports guy🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Robrr89]

Nick has some great takes on everything other team and player in the NBA not name Lebron James. Everything tied to LBJ he over exaggerates or straight up paints everything out of context to make LBJ look greater than he is.

[@noobgonebad9860]

Best show on planet earth. Fox needs to get this crew paid. They fit so well together

[@hot2chocolate]

Chris’ face at 3:27…lmao 😂 my man’s was sick😂😂😂

[@moldydonut27]

I dont know why, but the drumroll Nick does at the beginning pumps me up everytime lol

[@CalebAlucardtheHagan]

The blind reveal is silly in this instance because Malone was playing in an era where BY THE VERY RULES OF THE GAME it was significantly harder to score. If the roles were reversed, we'd see Malone with better numbers in his twilight years unquestionably. But who am I kidding? We're just filling airtime in July... Still watching and loving every minute, though. XD

[@SadSinStory]

" BY THE VERY RULES OF THE GAME" so he was built to be the best he could be for the rules but somehow he would get even better if his build wouldn't be perfectly fit and the rules would be different? 🤣🤣 based on just what ur saying you already dismantled that assertion yourself. not to mention other slew of problems with what ur saying.

[@user-cs1pi8zg1n]

​@@SadSinStorypeople say anything to discredit any Lebron accomplishments. It was harder to score then because outside of the superstars the league wasn't nowhere near as skilled as the players of today.

[@Cooleyhyh]

@@SadSinStoryfrom what I read you clearly missed the point 😂

[@Truthorfib]

The 8% from three in Malone's MVP years was crazy though 😂 I think a lot of old guys back then would have issues to adapting to the shooter league we have now. Shaq for example one of the greatest ever only made one three point his whole career. In today's NBA all the top big men can shoot. Jokic, KD, Embiid. Not being able to shoot as a big man is a flaw that can be exploited like how they exploit Giannis in the playoffs. Giannis lucky he has Middleton to bale him out but Middleton is just not that consistent

[@shido1716]

By rules of the game it’s harder to score now… being able to double and triple team as much as they want… playing zones… illegal defense calls… just cuz they allowed goons to foul hard doesn’t mean the entire league was like that or that the entire league was elite defensively…

[@pharma2546]

Nick wright is signed to Clutchsport, it’s unprofessional for him not disclosing that info

[@randallmarcum9998]

The game is at a far faster pace nowadays Nick meaning more possessions and thus more opportunities to record counting stats and thus those numbers are never quite fair to players that played in eras with a slower pace

[@TheFantasyDad]

Wrong. Another brain washed fan.

[@marcusstrinidad]

It’s not too much different. Pace during Malone’s MVP years were 90 and todays pace is 98. The game was actually faster in the 70s and 80s but that’s unimportant. So the question is can Karl Malone make up the difference in stats if there were 8 more possessions per game when he played? Odds are, probably not. He couldn’t get enough assists, points and rebounds with 8 more possessions to make up the difference of what LBJ does with about 98 possessions per 48 minutes. The biggest difference is offensive rating where teams have an offensive rating of 115 league wide whereas during Malone’s years were 105 league wide. Offensive rating (points per 100 possessions) disregards tempo and number of possessions in a game. So really todays NBA outscored Malone’s NBA by 10 points per 100 possessions. The league’s offense efficiency might be a bigger explanation of why LBJ’s stats look so much better.

[@theronwright1413]

The 80s were identical

[@ajrivera1993]

I scrolled down to the comments, was not disappointed.

[@dskwared2u610]

When Karl came in the league he was strictly an athletic dunk guy. He worked on his game to develop his shooting. He averaged nearly 80 games per season in 18 of his 19 years in the league.

[@mikemars7888]

He also avg 80 teens in those years sooo

[@Wisestomatoe]

@@mikemars7888corny , get a life

[@iwishiwasthomasshelby]

He also worked on his pickup skill. Around an elementary school.

[@Jbcomedystl]

@@Mithrandir523so players aren’t great without a title? I hate you new dudes

[@youdub7926]

@@Mithrandir523 Thats because he had to face MJ, if LeChina had to face MJ he would never have a title either.

[@Mr123Parka]

This is the most stat bending performance ever by Nick Wright. Never seen someone use stats and ignore pace and era this much. Actually sick but them klutch boys are paying well

[@Person-gk5ee]

Plus how many games lebrons missed

[@stopjordan4193]

Lebron scored 25.8% of his teams points and Malone scored 26.5% of his teams points in those two seasons on a per game basis. Another factor was that Malone was a FT merchant and Stockton carried him.

[@Person-gk5ee]

@@stopjordan4193 now bring up average points per game for their teams in both those seasons

[@BeeKay2715]

@@Person-gk5eewhat does that have to do with the percentage of points they scored?

[@davidkang6267]

@@Person-gk5ee 117.2 & 112.1 for lebron's season, 103.1 & 96.5 for Malone. yea pretty similar in terms of percentage, so pace shouldn't be an issue

[@REALJayDOTWill]

LeBron and Stockton not going to the finals is an extremely crazy take lmao

[@waynebell246]

I was waiting for this!!!

[@TechyCatz]

This is the only channel that keeps me invested for almost 20 minutes

[@terrencemoore8739]

I almost imploded when they said it was Bru's last day...this week😂

[@davidkeith6907]

So is he (bru) leaving the show soon?

[@eloyzamora8422]

Lebron only played 110 games the last 2 years. Karl malone in 19 seasons played less than 80 games twice.

[@sindilacion]

Karl malone didn't have to cover as much ground as players do today. Playoff mileage is a factor also.

[@_SIRENITY_]

You can put Stockton in that bracket too

[@anudesignsbynkrumah9081]

@@sindilacion what????v you guys gotta stop this. malone was in the vpaint banging against big men. lebrick scores by running over smaller players

[@antoniobridges6209]

@@sindilacion19 seasons, multiple long playoff runs. For the longest time the only player that scored more points than Malone was Kareem. There’s your mileage. Y’all can talk about lebron without shitting on other legends. This is just a bad take, Malone was athletic and had a waaaaaay better post arsenal. Lebron would be warriors iggy if he lost his athleticism

[@edredding]

He ain’t have to move lol.. he stayed at the top the key and pick and popped. He wasn’t running an offense he wasn’t playing deep into the playoffs for majority of his career and he also had a Pg

[@GlueRecords]

Thank you Josh!!! Was the best sentence in this entire argument.

[@popcrnshower]

Malone made all defensive first team both of his MVP seasons.

[@SuperSonic_868]

In 1990 Malone played all 82 games and put up 31/11 on 56% shooting. Off court, he's a scumbag, but on the court, dude was a monster

[@davidrobertson4010]

The most sensible comment so far

[@RJTham-wq9eo]

I agree, he's a Monster on and off the court.

[@TheLeaderOfAunthenticity]

Difference is bron still a monster goin into yr 21 😂

[@notimportant3686]

so then don't you mean, on the court, dude was a monster.... off the court dude was a monster

[@johnnybaxter1953]

What was Malone in year 21 though

[@94feelmeflow]

Wildes is unintentionally hilarious

[@glasnoirx]

I know - I died and rewound that aside he made after Brou said he probably didn’t take 100 3’s in his whole career, and without a beat’s worth of time, wildes jokes about how he probably shouldn’t have, if he’s only making 8% of them. Lol wildes is the hero we don’t deserve

[@matchhunter7012]

And delusional most of the time

[@fluff975]

not unintentionally--he is a certified clown. world class troll. gotta love him

[@LSmoney215]

Wildes is dumb af

[@joeyc4633]

Wildes is f’n cringe

[@lightsout6552]

And it was harder town core in the Jordan Malone era. The hand check and physicality was a huge difference maker. Much harder town core back then taking a pounding every time you hit the paint

[@jdbarnes5987]

“Josh, still employed” was some beautifully subtle shade at ESPN lmao

[@theprofessorjg]

The Lakers the last 2 seasons, their pace per game was 102 whereas the Jazz in those 2 years Wright is showing had a pace of 89 so a difference of 13 possessions. That means with Malone's stats as is he'd average more point rebounds and assists per game than LeBron. Wright just throws numbers out sans context.

[@quentondaniels8536]

-🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@DeadSezSo]

While youre somewhat correct, Karl Malone in no universe would get more assists than lebron. While it's true pace was slower back then, that also meant players needed less cardio conditioning and got hurt much less often. So you can make several different arguments for or against eras which is why it's no use trying to compare stats.

[@TheBossyMango]

@@DeadSezSoAlso help defense/ zone was considered illegal Defence which resulted in a lot of dudes standing around while one player goes iso on the opposite wing. Imagine what LeBron could’ve done with that “illegal defense” rule, people aren’t ready for that convo tho lol

[@theprofessorjg]

@@DeadSezSo not necessarily when it comes to cardio. Players then played more games, more minutes and shorter rotations. 8-10 players with the roster at 12 max and 3 on reserve. Now, players play less minutes, less games, and longer rotations...9-12 players. 15 players with 18 max. Yes, I understand the pace is more but a similary paced late 70's to mid '80's had guys again playing more minutes per player per game. While I'll concede Malone would average less assists however it wouldn't be by much.

[@mattwhitely1067]

They took around the same amount of shots those

[@Blackbolt-411]

Malone led his team to 64 wins was all first team offense and defense

[@xxtooshiestyxx8756]

Bron led his to 66... MVP 1st tm all def and all nba 🙄

[@orkidokomlan8544]

@@xxtooshiestyxx8756THANK YOU…. I was about to say the same.

[@prolific1518]

​@@xxtooshiestyxx8756got his DPOY stolen

[@willjohnwick6911]

@@xxtooshiestyxx8756but didn’t make the finals that year Malone made the finals lebron got spanked by the magic 😅

[@atraina6921]

⁠@@willjohnwick6911Lol, didn’t Malone lose? I thought it was about winning? Cause all people like you do especially in the Jordan debate is bring up 4-6 and make it seem like LeBron should get punished as a 22 year old for being able to carry a team to a finals and more trash teams after that. Make up your mind 😅😅😅😅 . Also FYI in that series where he got “spanked” LeBron averaged 38, 8, and 8 and I don’t even think I need to pull Malones stat to know he didn’t do that in the final.

[@adayinthelifeofJB]

Nick: "I'm gonna do a blind reveal..." Brou & Wildes: moans and groans... LMAO

[@lopaka526]

Like, oh, I wonder if Nick found numbers that favor LeBron…

[@c2cbullies857]

Chris at 15:26 😂😂

[@jonathanharvey7940]

We don’t f with km13

[@ktpast]

When wilds said, josh… still employed 🤣

[@bryanfahey3144]

Why don’t they do a revised comparison based on the average point increase? For instance - if teams score 20% more points per game in this era - add 20% to that stat.

[@JoshuaWSiegel]

I always say, go back 20 years, and 25 points in the 90s-early 2000s is equal to about 30 points today.

[@benharris2496]

Nick the biggest LeBron Stan out there

[@galarook6151]

"I belong here, on the bench" 😂

[@sebastianellis3678]

my guy said "feelings emotions thoughts" lmao

[@browneyez8600]

#7 rebounder is a surprise greater player in that area than I thought

[@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork]

9:22 Karl Malone shot 27.4% from 3pt line for his career and he took 310 for his career.

[@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork]

@@1newme425 naw it’s correct based off basketball reference…

[@forkobe7544]

He also shot 100% at 13 year old girls in his career

[@erikpuka2627]

Karl Malone was a much better defender. Probably the best legit post defender I ever seen. Most defenders that defend the paint are shotblockers. Like Gobert. Malone could legit guard centers and power forwards. Could even switch to smaller players. 6th all tome in defensive win shares

[@ubong5172]

Couldn’t guard his lust fit minors.

[@lisarollins4880]

@@ubong5172 🤣

[@captencourtney]

Thanks Chris

[@TheDraso1987]

Chris was outraged 😂😅

[@samuelwilliams3044]

That’s why I don’t understand why he don’t want to play in the post. Karl Malone was an absolute unit. And he was a great athlete in his prime

[@Yeshuaspupil]

He could extend his career even more if he did that on top of the HGH.

[@cyberbron2077]

These two know nothing about basketball^. You're asking a 38 year old man entering his 21st season that he should be banging in the post more often. Ya'll do the math everyone.

[@TheLeaderOfAunthenticity]

How many rings did playin in the post get Malone 😂

[@TyroneNBAFan]

Tell me you don't know about the modern NBA without telling me 😂

[@danielphagans2066]

​@user-gh2df6fk3w You mean the LeBron 1st year in Miami and Dwade remember the league started testing and how the boats buddies all cut and lose weight even Melo back then. Yes LeBron spends millions on his body BUT BACK THEN ALL OF THEM WAS ON THE HGH

[@martindominguez1518]

“To the guy that impregnated a teenager” left that out Broussard.

[@mr.mr.4772]

Two teenagers.

[@jacklumsden7444]

In fairness. So did lebron. Granted he was also a teen.

[@brotherLee340]

Why would he put that in?? He is talking about what he did on the court. Malone was a beast

[@hooligan5381]

thats 30 years ago fool you wasn't even born how you speaking on some you know nun about

[@eduardoarancibia169]

​@@mr.mr.4772two!?

[@henryloves]

LOL Nick, you are so funny yet correct! Love from LA

[@diquananderson2876]

Why do we even keep track of the numbers 😂😂😂

[@maxwellgrant124]

For all those wondering... On the 2 season nick showed, Lebron scored 30.3 & 28.9 / 117.2 & 112.1 (25.8% of team points) Karl Malone scored 25.5 & 27.4 / 103.1 & 96.5 (26.5% of team points) Lebron absolutely did score at a very comprable rate & efficiency

[@owtkvst]

Finally somebody said it

[@sjwilliams5883]

Bron also better passer an defender bc he can guard 1-4 an sometimes the 5 depending on who the 5 is

[@Channelnamehere100]

Bruh, the thing isn’t that lebron is miles ahead, it’s that those 2 seasons are MVP seasons for Malone and the 2 seasons from lebron are age 37 and 38 that’s why the seasons are comparable with the averages still being ahead in lebrons favour because of the assists

[@ericthurman1050]

Again context. the pace ans scorin, rules and philosophies are drastically different. stats mean nothing without context. go back and watch players from the 70s and 60s shoot from steph curry range. it still counted for 2pts. how many people would have better stats if these rules and pace of play were allowed in their eras?

[@4yze]

At the risk of sounding like a Bron hater, none of this is the point. It isn’t about the player. It’s about the game. It’s like saying Jordan averaged 45/9/8 against the Monstars but only 30/5/6 against the NBA. In the offense that the Jazz ran, with the skill set that the game told Malone he SHOULD and MUST have, in the overall backdrop of the game that Malone played in, The Mailman did X. In a completely different backdrop, with a mandatory skill set that had already changed drastically even by the time LeBron was drafted and more so since (which to his credit he has largely adapted to), Bron did X. You cannot compare the two X’s.

[@RelentlessMocha]

It's already stated its easier to score in this era so the LBJ numbers are inflated. LeBron is more athletic but Malone would bully LBJ on the block.

[@lennybeason1110]

Definitely would bully LeBron in the paint!

[@noodlezworld3627]

He def cam in 03 when the league was still rough am i not mistaken 😂 yall b pushing it

[@willjohnwick6911]

@@noodlezworld3627dude we’re talking about now not in 2003 🤡 reading is fundamental

[@lennybeason1110]

@@noodlezworld3627 Nick and Rich Paul are comparing prime Malone to year 19&20 LeBron. We know that it’s been easier to score the last 5 years of this era than any era before it! Prime Malone is definitely better than these last 2 years of LeBron!

[@LonerP]

Wildes with the Bru leaving fake out 😂😂😂

[@pmodi1104]

Broussard is correct, context is everything, possessions, pace, and style of play impact stats

[@Prince-cz5qy]

Imagine if Karl Malone teamed up with micheal Jordan & Hakeem Olajuwon like Lebron did with wade & bosh in his prime.. ridiculous argument

[@isaiahsmith8523]

Are you saying Wade is equal to MJ? Are you saying Hakeem and Bosh are the same?

[@mackniffy]

Nick is completely discounting stat inflation of this era

[@raph30bawe]

26 pts per game in the 90's its like 32 now

[@MC-ej4to]

Yeah but what they don't understand is that MVP Karl Malone was doing those numbers when the league was also averaging like 91 points a night lol. This is very disrespectful of Karl Malone a very great player. We don't have to disrespect one player to prop up another.

[@edwinp.martinez151]

Here Nick go being outta pocket 🤣🤣

[@omartahboub2900]

Back in Karl Malone's time the was much physical, teams were more physical and scoring was much more difficult. And as Cherry on top, the probability of getting injured was much higher impacting the players longevity in the League.

[@Catinthehat-kq3pk]

The true meaning of Power Forward he doesn't have Malone's Heart.

[@poly_g6068]

The probability of injury is statistically higher today.

[@jackass541]

yea that last part is just a straight up a lie

[@georgeparker8198]

DON'T SCARE US LIKE THAT WILDES!!! 😂😂😂😂

[@Bw.e]

I love when brou and nick really get into it

[@alvaroalfaro9478]

Karl Malone is athletic. End to end he was faster than some guards. Lebron would be more like later years Magic Kohnson if he lost athletic prowess

[@clootscalhoun9481]

They’re load managing Broussard hahahaha

[@Versatile300]

Brou doesn't have coffee in that cup🍇😂😂😂😂

[@byron2099]

Everyone let’s Brou get his point across once nick speaks brou cuts him off a lot sometimes …. Still the best show ever

[@jayomar6054]

Lol comparing LBJ to anybody but the goat sounds disrespectful to me.

[@magicjohnson5733]

To Malone, not to lebron

[@demodiums7216]

​@@magicjohnson5733are you blind?

[@jimmyromeinaday8428]

This was a good debate 😮

[@rodbiagtan4250]

You tell him, Mr. Broussard!

[@ehhyomikey7738]

Karl Malone 😮google him before you compare him to anyone else 🤔🤔

[@sugared365]

Disrespecting Karl Malone is perfectly fine Brou

[@Aivern]

It's true, even the FTs match up

[@gernblanston2652]

The Jazz averaged 101ppg in 97-98 during the regular season.

[@canarynino84]

Lebron compared to Karl Malone is like comparing Reggie Miller to Stephen Curry.... Accept this generation of players does everything better.

[@xerospades]

They surely don't defend or stay healthy in comparison to back then.

[@bayareayackem100]

Not defense.

[@langanhlakanipho]

You say this cause you watching them now... watch 90's ball, the game was different (doesn't necessarily mean better) also unfair comparing a top 20 guy to a top 2 guy

[@canarynino84]

@@langanhlakanipho I thought the same thing how can they compare lebron to Karl?? There's really no comparison.

[@filltheglass2618]

I think Wildes should have his own program interviewing athletes. Asking question on performance, routine and mental fortitude

[@markwellcapuyan6560]

I think you forgot to mention stockton contribution who lead on assist points overall nba. He contributed a lot as well on team offense and defense

[@JD-xr3gi]

LeBron in the past few years clearly only care about offensive stats. it's the combination of he knows 99% of the fans only care about offensive stats, AND father time that he knows he can no longer use energy on both ends of the floor like he used to.

[@Mason_23]

Because he’s 38 he can’t give you both end of the floor.

[@1vaultdweller]

2020 Lebron was a beast on the defensive end tough.

[@Titanvol91]

If LeBron wanted to be the rebound guy he probably would be. Why go for rebounds when you have bigger guys on your team lol... Malone was probably the biggest guy on his team, thats why hes getting all the boards.

[@JGoGetta20]

Wildes said Load management 🤣🤣🤣

[@MrBloom-mh4li]

I believe that Lebron in possibly his last year or two should really look at or study the game of ... wait for it ... Adrian Dantley. Adrian Dantley was a mid-range and score around the bucket extraordinaire. Adrian Dantley was a small forward at 6'-5" and around 210 pounds and he played and just about lived in and played in the paint during much of his career and that open mid range shot was at times deadly for teams would leave him open occasionally outside the paint. Lebron is bigger and has a natural knack for passing which would help too in extending his health and play.

[@flowaroundtherock]

The fact that Broussard tried to use a 40-point LeBron game as an argument against LeBron shows the insane standard that we hold LeBron to.

[@jstino779]

He’s making the argument for empty stats vs effective stats.

[@flowaroundtherock]

@@jstino779 I guess 40/10/9 on 60% shooting with only 1 turnover is empty stats 🤷‍♂️

[@andrewnguyen9085]

@@jstino779 He has no argument. The lakers got further in the playoffs than the Jazz this season than the Jazz did in Karl Malone's 1999 season. Makes more sense for Karl's to be empty than Lebron's if your point is about stats correlating to winning lol.

[@Bama2ohio]

@@flowaroundtherockis that the game where he scored like 2 points in the second half? Just curious

[@escobarrizzay3599]

​@@jstino779use that same standard against everyone team who ends up losing the game not just LeBron. You won't because you just don't like LeBron. Your brain can't move past that 😂

[@juliolara274]

This take really showed Nick’s Lebron bias, which hurts his objectivity and clouds his other arguments about Lebron (which he has great takes on Lebron) … The comparison of Lebron’s last two years and Malone’s MVP years based on numbers is what we call playing the numbers and shows that you can find numbers to argue anything you want… if there is no context… anything out of context is a pretext…

[@erikpuka2627]

He doesn't have great takes on Lebron. Thats false.

[@94mikless]

Nick comparing stats from 25 years ago is crazy

[@25mL]

“I know you can’t just do that!” Yet, Nick does that. 😂☠️

[@JonReynoldsESQ]

This is a mild take for Nick. He's not wrong.

[@JonReynoldsESQ]

I can tell Broussard is legit heated over this take. So I'm loving it.

[@TheGoatLocker]

Not wrong at all. Brussard just being an old head.

[@Priddyboiicrls]

You lebron stans need to stop this, all you do is invite slander🤣

[@abluminberg]

FYI, in 97 and 98 he went through Shaq both times

[@noobartist3762]

malone developed a lethal perimeter game...

[@kylewilloughby1983]

Cal Ripkin did in fact play baseball

[@NebraskaSXHC]

You think LeBron would sleep with 13 year olds?

[@bingbong4074]

Skip would believe it 😂

[@chiefmiyagi9802]

​@@bingbong4074 "You know it and I know it!"

[@lisarollins4880]

@@bingbong4074 😅

[@lisarollins4880]

@@chiefmiyagi9802 🤣

[@donivanhummel3106]

I'm forgetting a lot I'm sure, but it wasn't just Olojawn. Barkley was in Phoenix, Garnett in Minnesota towards the end, Muttombo in Denver. It was a more physical league with better Defensive players who were allowed to be more hands on.

[@WinedandDined27]

David Robinson, Shaq, Alonzo mourning, Rodman, Ewing

[@realitymatters4745]

It's amazing out of all the things to talk about LeBron James and the Lakers always seem to pop up everyday

[@tayvalid]

nick be glazing hard

[@robertwilson9528]

With no shame

[@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork]

5:52 Karl Malone was also playing 80-82 games back then even when he was old, until the year he got hurt with the Lakers.

[@benthompson4011]

Lebron was playing like the best in the league last year before injury,also won a championship 2 years ago,Lebron is absolutely 100 percent more impactful and better player now than Karl Malone was in his prime…Karl Malone would be Demarcus cousins caliber in todays league